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Creating a New Yorker Cover On the iPhone

Jaime Leifer writes "The cover of the June 1, 2009, issue of The New Yorker, entitled 'Finger Painting,' was drawn by Jorge Colombo entirely on his iPhone — a first for the magazine. Colombo, a New York-based artist and illustrator, uses the iPhone's Brushes application to vibrantly depict New York street scenes." There's a video recapitulating the creation of the piece, omitting all of the undos.

226 comments

  1. So what's the news? by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Artist using new technology is nothing new. I like Apple and the iPhone but this is just a plain "Apple PR News" story, nothing for nerds, nothing that matters.

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    1. Re:So what's the news? by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 0, Troll

      kdawson is just trying to make up for the dearth of Apple slashvertisements lately.

    2. Re:So what's the news? by TheParadox2 · · Score: 1

      i agree... Its not like that application didn't have a lot of diverse and (i can't think of the word) brushes and options for 'painting'. I don't have an iPhone either thou, so it might be harder than it looks.

    3. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is a man not entitled to his own computer? "No!" says the man in Washington, "It belongs to the poor." "No!" says the man in the Vatican, "It belongs to God." "No!" says the man in Moscow, "It belongs to everyone." I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose ... Apple.

    4. Re:So what's the news? by garcia · · Score: 1

      Artist using new technology is nothing new. I like Apple and the iPhone but this is just a plain "Apple PR News" story, nothing for nerds, nothing that matters.

      It's not even new technology!

    5. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is just a plain "Apple PR News" story, nothing for nerds, nothing that matters.

      I think this would more accurately be described as "The New Yorker PR news," as in: 'Look, we use that new thing that all the kids love!'

      Next month we will hear about how The New Yorker is written with Twitter.

    6. Re:So what's the news? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      this is just a plain "Apple PR News" story

      Does anyone here have any doubt that the artist was paid by Apple to create the work on the iPhone? I think it's a smart move by Apple to do this.

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    7. Re:So what's the news? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      I think I will just do what I have been thinking for a while, remove "Apple" section by going to the preferences. Enough is enough.

    8. Re:So what's the news? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, tons of people own iphones and it's inevitable that someone's going to use theirs for something.

    9. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No! Don't! How is the Apple section meant to survive without your valuable contributions?

    10. Re:So what's the news? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Or, maybe the fact that Apple develops one of the main three OS platforms, they are actually relevant when it comes to technology news? Dammit, I just fed the troll.

    11. Re:So what's the news? by Schnoogs · · Score: 1

      Not sure why your post was modded insightful. The fact that this was done on a cell phone is pretty amazing when you think about. Could you imagine doing that just 5 years back? 10?

      One wonders what amazing things we'll be doing 5 years from now on our cell phones. I think this is very cool.

    12. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, nice reference. I love it. Wish I had mod points, this deserves better

    13. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Fuck Apple!

    14. Re:So what's the news? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      Whoa! I am insulted by AC! I must now go and die of shame!

    15. Re:So what's the news? by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      On the desktop, sure, but they're a small player on the mobile phone market.

      Of course we should hear about Apple, when it comes to actual news. The point is that we hardly ever hear about the much bigger players in the mobile phone market such as Nokia. The other point is that even for bigger companies like Microsoft, I don't recall seeing stories such as "You can now view this website on a Microsoft platform!!" or "Artists uses Microsoft!!"

    16. Re:So what's the news? by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      Could you imagine doing that just 5 years back? 10?

      I was browsing web sites and playing games and using applications on phones 5 years ago, and I saw other people doing it years before that. It was pretty obvious that phones were going to become more powerful computers as time went on.

      One wonders what amazing things we'll be doing 5 years from now on our cell phones. I think this is very cool.

      The continual increasing in computing power that started years ago is indeed cool. I'm sure you'll be wondering whilst other people are already doing it, and when the Iphone does it five years later, you'll think it's pretty cool, yes :)

    17. Re:So what's the news? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Define "small player on the mobile phone market". I read a slashdot article this weekend showing Apple as the #3 cell phone manufacturer (after Nokia, and Rim??).

    18. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is news, at least to any artists here. Wether or not it is "new", the ability to paint anything any where at anytime without brining all kinds of materials is great.
      Just because you aren't interested in painting doesn't mean no one is. If you don't want to read about the latest way to paint on the go, then don't.

    19. Re:So what's the news? by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I agree 100%. Also, they have been making new CPUs for a long time, that is not news. And new OS have been coming out for years, that is not news. Rights have been violated since humanity left the trees, that is not news.

      I think we are safe to say shut the site down, there is no news anymore, apparently.

    20. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you'll have a lot more free time now; about a quarter of your comment history to date is occupied with anti-Apple comments.

    21. Re:So what's the news? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      You bet!

    22. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't mean to be rude.. but seriously? who cares?

      How about next week someone draws the first cover on a Sharp Zaurus PDA?
      and then the week after someone draws one on their Newton...
      I mean.. there are 1000 touch screen devices. The iPhone isn't *that* special.

    23. Re:So what's the news? by Daychilde · · Score: 1

      Wake me up when they use MSPaint... ...on second thought, don't.

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    24. Re:So what's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi, you must be new here.

    25. Re:So what's the news? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      Artist using new technology is nothing new.

      Yeah, the whole concept of "new" and "pushing the envelope" is so old. Nothing is more cutting edge these days is uniform conformity from all artists.

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    26. Re:So what's the news? by Schnoogs · · Score: 1

      Not on a screen that big you weren't. There was nothing on the market back then even remotely close to the iPhone in terms of specs.

      The rest of your post isn't even worth addressing it's so meaningless.

  2. Kinda Cool by s73v3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is kinda cool. Not so much that it was an iPhone, but that it was a handheld device. How much longer until these phones replace a laptop for most of our day-to-day computing?

    1. Re:Kinda Cool by Myrimos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is kinda cool. Not so much that it was an iPhone, but that it was a handheld device. How much longer until these phones replace a laptop for most of our day-to-day computing?

      Much of the appeal of a laptop is the screen real estate. You can use your iPhone as a laptop, and you can can use your laptop as a phone, but seriously. Use the proper tool for the proper job.

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    2. Re:Kinda Cool by nizo · · Score: 0, Troll

      Of course the particular handheld devices you mentioned have to be plugged into a machine to work, or integrated into a tablet laptop, which isn't exactly something you can easily draw on while you stand in line for a few hours.

    3. Re:Kinda Cool by clang_jangle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How much longer until these phones replace a laptop for most of our day-to-day computing?

      The minute we can get proper monitors in our sunglasses and data plans free of ridiculous limits.

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    4. Re:Kinda Cool by EkriirkE · · Score: 1, Informative
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    5. Re:Kinda Cool by EkriirkE · · Score: 2, Informative
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    6. Re:Kinda Cool by stokessd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For a lot of what I do it already has. I am always up to date on reading my email and much faster on sending high priority replies. For low priority replies I still wait until I have a proper keyboard in front of me. When I'm lunching by myself I do a lot of surfing on the phone including slashdot. When laying on the couch, the screen navigation features are good enough that if I have a quick surfing need, I'll just pull out the phone rather than walk to my computer.

      It's not a complete replacement, but it's way more of a replacement than I imagined it would be with such a tiny screen and no keyboard.

      Sheldon

    7. Re:Kinda Cool by blhack · · Score: 1, Troll

      How much longer until these phones replace a laptop for most of our day-to-day computing?

      As long as it takes them to create one with a real keyboard, and a monitor that is at least as big as the one on my Acer Aspire.
      The idea of a phone replacing your computer is probably really great if you're speculating from behind your iBook while sipping on a Mocha Frappacheeno, but for the people actually USING their computers? The ones traveling? The ones doing more than updating their twitter status?

      Phones will not EVER replace their laptops (they will[do] supplement them).

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    8. Re:Kinda Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did laptops replace desktops for our day-to-day computing?

    9. Re:Kinda Cool by Thornburg · · Score: 1

      HTF does a wikipedia link to "tablet PC" get "+1 Informative" when the person they're replying to says "... a tablet laptop" right there in the comment?

      *sigh* indeed.

    10. Re:Kinda Cool by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I forgot something in my response?

    11. Re:Kinda Cool by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      More importantly, the guy posting the tablet PC link totally misses the point. Sure you can draw a New Yorker magazine cover with a table PC but this guy did it with a phone. For his remark to have been modded up, perhaps he should have linked to another phone that also can draw pretty pictures.

    12. Re:Kinda Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Use the proper tool for the proper job?"

      Typical /. arrogance. I'm pretty sure at some point in history a computer wasn't considered the 'proper' tool for a lot of things, and neither was a laptop. You can pull your head out of your ass, now, the air's fine.

    13. Re:Kinda Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're being short-sighted, as well as condescending. Phones already have the processing power necessary to be desktop replacements for most purposes, and the other features will be added as necessary. The only technical issue left is in driving an external monitor, but both that and fold-out displays are eventualities for phone and iPod-type devices. Other than that, it just comes down to what accessories you want to bring with you. At some point we're bound to see a company bring out what is essentially a laptop shell docking station and power supply for your phone.

      I'm really amazed anyone's even trying to contend that phones won't eventually replace laptops for most purposes. These things are only going to improve, and they're already more powerful than high-end desktop machines from ten years ago.

    14. Re:Kinda Cool by blhack · · Score: 1

      At some point we're bound to see a company bring out what is essentially a laptop shell docking station and power supply for your phone.

      Could we call it a "netbook" and have the "docking mechanism" be a USB cable?

      These things are only going to improve, and they're already more powerful than high-end desktop machines from ten years ago.

      I think you're missing the point. We're not using notebooks as number crunchers, they're mobile email/office/web platforms. The reason that they won't be replaced by phones is the screen and keyboard sizes. Processing power/ram has reached a point where it doesn't need to get any better for the typical sorts of things people use their computers for.

      Don't forget that phone-sized-computers have existed (and failed miserably) before. There might be a niche' market of geeks that want to show off their neat toys (and there are already devices that fill this), but the laptop computer is never going to go away.

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    15. Re:Kinda Cool by shird · · Score: 1

      You can get data plans free of ridiculous limits on your laptop? You can use WiFi and get the same kind of access and limits as a laptop.

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    16. Re:Kinda Cool by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

      Sure you can draw a New Yorker magazine cover with a table PC but this guy did it with a phone.

      And? There have been applications for phones that have allowed you to draw things for years. Here's one for Windows Mobile. Seriously, there is nothing amazing about drawing on a phone.

    17. Re:Kinda Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really sound stuck in the past when it comes to your views of small computers. They are not simply toys; they bear only a passing resemblance to older phone-sized computers. What's more, it would be impossible for them to fail miserably because they've already succeeded in the market; I have neither current nor total market numbers, but even the nearly 60 million units Apple sold as of the beginning of the year is enough to show their success. The question is now how are these devices going to evolve and become part of our every day lives.

      Keyboards and monitors are simply accessories to the computer; I'm not sure how many times I have to tell you that before you realize it, but it is true. I'm already writing this on an external keyboard with my laptop; once the hardware support is there, I'd just use a monitor and my phone that's sitting right here and could do away with the laptop altogether. What's more, then when I travel I can pick out whether I want to bring a smaller display and keyboard or a larger one, without having to worry about transferring data or paying for a redundant computer. The near-ubiquity and extreme portability of these small devices means that as they gain functionality -- both in terms of support for external hardware, and in terms of software development -- third parties will cater to their owners. Once these small devices have external monitor support, you'll probably see things like Virgin Airlines add compatibility to their seatback monitors.

      Past all of this, though, is that no one here has claimed that laptops will go away. We're saying that phone-sized computers will replace them for most needs. I complete agree with your notion that we already have enough processing power and that most people just need email, office, and web stuff is probably right; that's exactly why these small computers will work for most everyday tasks as soon as they support external monitors.

    18. Re:Kinda Cool by blhack · · Score: 1

      You really sound stuck in the past when it comes to your views of small computers.

      And you really sound like a 17 year old coffee shop dwelling mac fanboi that can't pull his head out of his ass long enough to realize that the mobile computing market is driven by people that want to take their computers with them.

      Nobody is going to lug a keyboard, and an external monitor with them. Possibly the people who buy their computers as fashion accessories (I suspect that you fall into this category) would, but the people using them will not.

      You're citing mac's sales figures for the iPhone (a telephone) as evidence that notebooks (computers) are being dropped for iPhones (telephones); this pretty accurately demonstrates how much you misunderstand what we're talking about here.

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    19. Re:Kinda Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So now posting facts in a non offensive manner makes a comment a troll??? Or did someone futz up their mod, since it is incredibly easy to choose the wrong one?

    20. Re:Kinda Cool by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      The problem is that the human body has already been designed. Phones won't replace laptops and desktops because the ergonomics of the phone are wrong.

      Sure, you can add an external keyboard and monitor to a smart phone and if it's powerful enough it becomes a general purpose computer in modular form. So what?

      It's the keyboard and monitor that make it suitable for most tasks with the form-factor just a detail. Then you detach the keyboard and monitor and it becomes a mobile device with degraded functionality.

    21. Re:Kinda Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be seriously awesome. I do layout work on the move sometimes on my Eee PC and even though it's really slow, it gets the job done. I'm sure it's the same power as DTP pros a few years back.

    22. Re:Kinda Cool by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      So why didn't anyone do a New Yorker cover with them? Here's the real news: WinMo still sucks. Fuck "Users can select a picture from their device or take a picture and use it for their background. And then they can draw and edit the picture using Mobile Sketcher. At the bottom of the screen we allow user to select different colors for the penâ(TM)s ink: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, brown, white, and black." - that's fucking art to the average WinMo user.

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    23. Re:Kinda Cool by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      And? There have been applications for phones that have allowed you to draw things for years.

      That's my point. The guy should have linked to any number of phones, if he wanted to credibly discredit the iPhone story--not a tablet pc. He might as well have linked to a an art site that sells easels and oil paints.

      However, it is a bit disingenuous to think that phones with software from a few years back are anywhere near as usable in the same capability as the iPhone app that was used for the New Yorker cover art.

    24. Re:Kinda Cool by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Heh, kinda like my coworkers who think Paint is good enough to edit screen shots for technical writing & documentation!

  3. Cool! by spun · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Now they just need to do something to make the actual content of the New Yorker less boring and pretentious.

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    1. Re:Cool! by Steauengeglase · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Given that I'm reading Slashdot from an iPod touch, from my deck, while grilling, I'd say they already have. The only trick here is that they have gotten a lot, lot cheaper than your average, non-netbook laptop. If you can't beat them with horsepower and features, you will always get them by being the cheapest ride in town.

    2. Re:Cool! by xerxesVII · · Score: 0

      I always thought the one about the special olympics was more directly applicable.

      Or there's a personal favorite from Penny Arcade: No-one convinces anyone of anything, everybody just heaps their baggage on the table and gestures at it wildly.

      But go ahead and resort to baby talk because someone called you on the cultural savvy on display in your sig while you criticize a magazine for being too boring and pretentious.

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    3. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 0

      Are you claiming the New Yorker ISN'T boring and pretentious? When was the last time you read it?

      And who whines about mods in their sig, seriously? Oh, no, life is so unfair, 'xerxesvii.' Waaa, waaa, the mods don't like you. Get over yourself.

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    4. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      re:"life is unfair"

      Only to some - perhaps those whose life is an infinite string of failures and disappointments. From an isolated perspective such as yours - a little projection is par for the course. When people grow out of puberty mindsets - they realize that other people's stations in life might be different and generalities such as "unfair" might not be applicable. But keep that nerd flag flying - it completes you. Perfectly.

    5. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 0, Troll

      Read my journal, I've been documenting our polyamory for about eight years now. I was in Pali Paths in Hawaii for years. Look it up. I've had more women than you've even known, sad little man. I've been in three ways and orgies, and done things you don't even know the names of. You are the one with the virgin fixation, and the negative view of sexuality. You should get some counseling to help you deal with your Mommy issues, or you will never know intimacy with a woman.

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    6. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 0, Troll

      Reading comprehension fail. Life is unfair to xerxesvii, as I clearly stated. He whines about mods in his sig, what a loser!

      Life is unfair to me, too. I get way more than I deserve, what with all the women, the money, the brains, the education, the physical good looks and horse like stamina, the inheritance, the invitations to interesting parties, tons of friends, man, what could I have done to deserve all that? I mean, life is starting to bore me, there's no challenge, I just get everything I want, when I want it, without having to work for it.

      But thank you for your interest in me and my life. I take it as a compliment when someone pays this much attention to me, really, you've made my day. The more you respond, the more important I know I am to you. Ahhhh, yeah. Keep it coming.

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    7. Re:Cool! by xerxesVII · · Score: 1

      I won't lie, it's been a couple years. And I can admit that I found it to be a bit drier than the average issue of Stuff or Mad. It's also more pretentious than most issues of Heavy Metal.

      However, I have seen magazines far more boring and pretentious. I figure with a 4-digit uid you'd probably have seen a bit more of the world. Maybe you saw the Python lads do the Holy Grail bit and thought humor could advance no further. Maybe you achieved a threesome and decided life could offer no richer reward. That's okay, man.

      I really was just writing to give you two better descriptions of arguing on the internet. But here we are, gesturing wildly.

      Good day to you, sir.

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    8. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      re:"Read my journal"

      You mean your fantasy blog? Yes - my blog - as you can plainly see - indicates that I live on a research outpost on the dark side of the moon where I titillate myself with strange alien lifeforms that produce orgasms like mammals produce milk.

      And because I said so - you know it's true.

      Don't forget to clean out the garage, because when you're living at home - you need to pitch in on the chores. It's the unspoken code of the projecting virgin.

      (don't forget to get the last word in either - you don't want to give anyone the idea that you're mentally evolved past puberty. Helps the fantasy life along nicely too. I'd say more but the lunar shuttle is here and I'm all out of plutonium batteries for my orgasmatron gun)

    9. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Yep - unfair is the first word fast on your failure prone lips. It's called a Freudian slip. And holy fucking wow - would Freud have a field day with your dementia.

      Sometime you'll have to send me your prescriptions. Sounds like they have you doing some serious time on the lithium lick. Famous last words? Or just loser last words? With man-children lost in a fog of fantasy and delusions (or medication - that's my best guess) it's so hard to tell.

      I also like the work reference. You having a job - that's an almost amusing thought. If I wasn't paying for your welfare checks and food stamps - I'd find it funny as fuck.

      Keep reaching for those rainbows!

    10. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 1

      Wow, you have some elaborate fantasies about me. Maybe we should cyber, it seems like you want me pretty bad. Been a naughty boy? You like it rough, want a spanking or something? I could work that into my schedule.

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    11. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Wow - you're really getting mad aren't you? This is entertainment - and anyone who has the social skills of someone beyond a high-school freshman can pretty much see that I'm enjoying this to the hilt. Your tone seems to be getting desperate - much like your life.

      Your last post of delusions pretty much read like the shopping list of the damned and envious and - sadly - showed what you lacked line-item by line-item. The sad thing is that you're so obvious. And your attempt as arousing some kind of malice just confirms - to everyone here - how right I was - and how sad you are.

      Now that's pathos! Pure entertainment in scheidenfreud widescreen glory.

      Don't forget to get the last-word - don't want you evolving mentally or anything. Your entertainment value would plummet. And we can't have that - no no - you're my little puppet-boy.

      Dance.

    12. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Well if you're not a man-child - your sense of humor pretty much confirms your education. I'm guessing GED?

      I'd be impressed if you were a disabled vet - at least you'd have some kind of prior life to be proud of. But I'm smelling 7-11 coffee for some reason. Or is that the hot dogs on the rollers calling your name.

      I got it - your fries are ready! I can never tell the difference between one fast-food machine and another. All of us customers across the counters can be dense like that. But at least you're trying 9h grade level smut. Shows everyone what a rich and colorful tableaux your life is. Right after your fantasy life, your sad lies, your increasingly bitter tone.

      I'd almost say I can taste the salt in your tears - but I think that's just the taste of these yummy fries you made. And on behalf of all of your grateful customers, let me be the first to say - good job, and good on you.

    13. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 1

      Wow, what an active imagination you have. And all over little old me.

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    14. Re:Cool! by grub · · Score: 1


      Dude, Spun's had more cunt than I've had hot dinners.

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    15. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      At least you took some time on that last response and you seem less hostile because of it. See what counting 10 will do for you?

      In other news, before you talk about over-active imaginations, you might want to re-read that nerd fiction of yours. How you manage to type both without leaving a bloody neck stump and a room redecorated "hint of brain" is in itself astounding.

    16. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 1

      Yawn. How do you expect to keep getting my attention if you can't even keep your trolling fresh? Get some new material.

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    17. Re:Cool! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      He appears to think "tableaux" is singular. You've got to admit, that's pretty wacky.

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    18. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      I know but the plural looks so much cooler than Tableau.

    19. Re:Cool! by spun · · Score: 1

      Gotta love Troll Tuesdays. :)

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    20. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Fresh material - that's funny from someone whose left a trail of posts talking about spanking about as long as the freeway to the Florida keys. Hypocrite much? Or did you not see it before you typed it because english is your second language?

      Relax - have a beer - go shoot something off that car that's on cinderblocks in your neighboring vacant lot. You'll feel a whole lot better. Or there's always the warm refreshing glow of Fox News. It speaks to you - it gives you purpose - it tells you that Sara Palin is important.

      Ahhhhh Fox.

    21. Re:Cool! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 0, Troll

      Perhaps that's all he eats (in his imagination). Might explain his mood swings. If all I ate was pussy, I'd not only have breath like an italian fisherman, but I'd be plenty cranky all day.

      I wonder if he's italian? I think we're connecting some important dots here.

  4. In other news... by Archfeld · · Score: 5, Funny

    a group of 30 4 year olds using a magnetic refrigerator alphabet wrote all the features and articles in the same magazine. In un-related news the New Yorker seems to be having financial problems as fewer and fewer people read the garbage they publish.

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    1. Re:In other news... by Steauengeglase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In their defense the articles are often pretty good, generally 20 pages longer than necessary, but the writing is good. Now the New Yorker cartoons are simply indefensible.

      I've been going through one of the New Yorker desk calenders this year and it is about 1 out of 20 strips that actually work. The rest are simply lazy. I mean am I supposed to create the scenario? Is that how it works? Is that why it is so clever? Because it makes me feel like I'm smart? That isn't a joke, that is the sound of an armless man masturbating.

      http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2007/07/BadNewYorkerCartoon.jpg

    2. Re:In other news... by potaz · · Score: 1

      That is the best description for a bad comic I've seen in a while. Nice!

    3. Re:In other news... by pileated · · Score: 1

      I'm not quite sure how the desk calendars work but I got one a couple of years ago. Dullsville! But I've also been subscribing to the New Yorker for last three years or so. The cartoons in the magazine are much funnier. Maybe these calendars have this in small print:
      'Rejects from', and in large print 'The New Yorker.'

      As far as the drawing I'd be willing to bet that cover wouldn't have been published if it had not been drawn on an iphone. And I'd be willing to bet the 2nd, 3rd, ...400th drawings done on iphones probably won't get published anywhere. Their interest is their novelty. This is quite different from New Yorker articles which often are substantial.

  5. iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by meehawl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think one important issue with the capacitative screen as used in Apple's phone is that while it does support multitouch, it does not support different pressure levels corresponding to force applied against the screen? To get pressure sensitivity similar to a Wacom-style pad, you'd need to be using a Palm/WinMo handheld which, with resistive screens, can support different pressures applied by finger or stylus. Is this correct? If so, then it's remarkable that he managed to produce quite a nice cartoon given the limitations of the device he was using. But you have to wonder how much more efficient a similar artist could be with a more artist-friendly approach. I assume that this brushes application lets you create a swipe, then click it afterwards to increase or decrease the transparency/strength/brush effects. That's got to be a lot less intuitive than just pressing your finger/stylus more or less to get the same effect. In effect, a single gesture dimensioned using pressure has been elongated into a mutli-step gesture dimensioned with serial, semantic twiddling.

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    1. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by Zerth · · Score: 1

      It could also use time. Drag your finger over quickly, it uses X% opacity. Drag slowly to get completely opaque. Or vice versa.

    2. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

      Think of it as the "flow" control of photoshop brushes. Linger in one area, more pigment/color is applied in the spot. Move quickly and just a light dusting is applied.

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    3. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assume that this brushes application lets you create a swipe, then click it afterwards to increase or decrease the transparency/strength/brush effects.

      Close but backwards..

      User selects the color/transparency/brush effects then swipes the screen.

    4. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Actually, a big problem with capacitive screens is... you can't tap accurately. Instead of a sharp "point" on a resistive touchscreen (within the accuracy of the analog side and the ADC), you get an area. Things like controls (buttons, fields, etc) tend to have to be larger and spaced out on a capacitive screen because getting an accurate point is extremely difficult.

      It's like trying to draw using a mouse vs. a touchpad. It'd doable, just a bit more difficult.

      Adding fine detail to a photo is extremely hard on the iPhone, unless you have good zoom-in modes that enlarge the tap area. Even so, it'll be hard to align things in a straight line since a little offset in the way you tap can alter the returned coordinates.

    5. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I meant with high precision, not accuracy. Tap the same spot twice on the iPhone screen and you'll end up with different coordinates. Big buttons make it easier by allowing a larger error radius, though.

    6. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      It Just Works!

    7. Re:iPhone Has No Pressure Sensitivity? by willy_me · · Score: 1

      I imagine that pressure could be inferred by looking at the point of contact on the screen. The larger the point the harder the person is pressing. Because different people have different sized fingers, the software would have to be very intelligent in order to work accurately for all people.

  6. By the way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The marketing company Apple also sells computers and software.

  7. wat by athdemo · · Score: 1

    Recapitulating? Really?

    1. Re:wat by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      No kidding. I think somebody's word-a-day calendar backfired on them. That is assuming that the calendar words are now chosen from the dictionary at random by Chinese factory workers.

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    2. Re:wat by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

      That is assuming that the calendar words are now chosen from the dictionary at random by Chinese factory workers.

      Unfortunately for kdawson they have a greater master of the English language than he does.

    3. Re:wat by gilgoomesh · · Score: 1

      Yes. For clarity: capitulate means to give up or surrender. Recapitulate would mean to surrender... again. Not really what the iPhone is doing.

      Words the summary could have used that would have been better:

      - Replay
      - Retell
      - Recount
      - Regurgitate

      Words that would have been worse:

      - Respank
      - Reeviscerate
      - Reejaculate
      - Reconstitutionalizeate

      I look forward to seeing them all used in future summaries.

    4. Re:wat by Lars+T. · · Score: 1
      http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Recapitulate&gwp=16

      v.tr. 1. To repeat in concise form.

      Concise as in "omitting all of the undos".

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  8. An other IPhone art project with a pretty girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  9. WOW! by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA: "Before, unless I had a flashlight or a miner's hat, I could not draw in the dark."

    Apple, thank you for finally enabling us artists to draw in the dark. Only Apple could pioneer this astounding technology.

  10. how ironical by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 3, Funny

    How ironic that TFA has a flash video that does not work on the iPhone. I'm sure there's a youtube version out there somewhere but I'm too lazy to look.

    1. Re:how ironical by wondershit · · Score: 1

      Couldn't find one but a search for "new yorker iphone cover" on YouTube produces this video on the first page. I just don't see why...

    2. Re:how ironical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FFFFUUUUUUUUU....

  11. Another first for the New Yorker! by ClosedSource · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    After completing his artwork he proceeded to the New Yorker's men's room and took a crap while doodling on his iPhone.

  12. Nothing new by Yetihehe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Peaple are drawing Mona lisa in MS Paint. THIS is an achievement.

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    1. Re:Nothing new by spydabyte · · Score: 1

      He didn't save once. I'm surprised that Windows didn't blue-screen on him.

    2. Re:Nothing new by Zapotek · · Score: 1

      And you know this how? Oh the wonders of video editing...

    3. Re:Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't save once. I'm surprised that Windows didn't blue-screen on him.

      LOL, that's a good one spydabyte! It is refreshing to see someone like you on this site come along and not be afraid to drop truth bombs!

    4. Re:Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1998 called. they want their joke back.

      bsod are about as common as yetis... a myth from a bygone time that is re-told by elders and idiots who have nothing truely interesting to say.

    5. Re:Nothing new by mkiwi · · Score: 1

      While the Mona Lisa in MS Paint is certainly interesting, but it is most definitely not an original work. There's a big difference between creating something from scratch and emulating an existing drawing. One of the main reasons this drawing is notable is because it is *original.*

    6. Re:Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised anyone even remembers the BSoD.

      Last time I saw one outside of a hard drive failure was about 10 years ago.

    7. Re:Nothing new by sa1lnr · · Score: 1

      Or you could do it with sheep.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDAM5lSPCwk

    8. Re:Nothing new by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      I saw one in XP once in college a few years ago. Go figure it was because of the (ancient) nVidia video drivers they never bothered to update.

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    9. Re:Nothing new by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

      Look again, the title bar says "MonaLisa - Paint".. Most likely Ctrl+S'ing intermittently

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    10. Re:Nothing new by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      1998 called. they want their joke back. bsod are about as common as yetis... a myth from a bygone time that is re-told by elders and idiots who have nothing truely interesting to say.

      Just because Windows defaults to restarting while pretending nothing happened - that's why you don't see BSODs anymore.

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    11. Re:Nothing new by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen a Windows crash in any form in years.

      If years old criticisms of a different OS are still relevant today, I might as well joke that if he was using a Mac, he wouldn't have been able to run more than one program at the same time as Paint...

    12. Re:Nothing new by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen a Windows crash in any form in years.

      Neither have I - just those unexplained reboots...

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  13. "Making of" as a new genre by serutan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The video of the process is a work of art all its own, capturing the evolution of the scene. There is a sense of change and even of loss, which you wouldn't get from the finished work alone.

    1. Re:"Making of" as a new genre by Spatial · · Score: 1

      It's a cool feature, yes. It's been in 'oekaki' drawing programs for years, and that homebrew drawing program 'Colours' for the DS has it too I think.

    2. Re:"Making of" as a new genre by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      This has been done forever. Fractal Design Painter would not only generate these movies many years ago, but it also actually records and plays back strokes, and it can play them back with different media. If you are into "natural media" art on the computer, you owe it to yourself to check out Painter.

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    3. Re:"Making of" as a new genre by hondo77 · · Score: 1

      This has been done forever. Fractal Design Painter would not only...

      On a phone?

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  14. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 4, Insightful
    An artist did print ready work from a communication device, rather than a laptop or desktop computer, that's the news.

    sure, it's not the first time, but the point is much more subtle: why use a laptop or desktop computer?

    What this is is the next level of miniaturisation, and it is an important one. There is fundamentally no difference between an iPhone or iPod and a computer - they all have input devices (keypads, sensitive screens, cameras), RAM, Storage, and output (audio, video, files).

    an iPhone with a beefier processor, some USB ports and a mini HDMI port (a la Macbook) and you have your next desktop replacement device. Not only would you have phone calls, but with an HDMI - VGA adaptor, you have a screen to do world processing, image editing, video editing, audio editing, 3D, whatever.

    It's the next big deal.

    RS

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  15. I know it's unfashionable... by eyrieowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    to refrain from complaining about a kdawson post, but I saw this early this morning and thought it was cool as well. So sue me. Yes, people have been drawing on computers for a Long Time with lots of different input devices; and no, it's not the best tool (portable or otherwise) for drawing with. And I detest all the often-unmerited love that Apple gets...but this was cool, it is an example of how, even on a converged device that can't touch dedicated devices, technology has become accessible enough that people are able to do real worth with it, no matter where they are. It's similar to Chase Jarvis and his iPhone pictures. It's not the best camera, not even the best camera phone, but it's both a demonstration of how art isn't about the technology, it's about the artist; and it's a demonstration of what we could each accomplish with even these limited tools if we had the talent and discipline to use them to their fullest. It's not, to me, about it being an Apple product, it's about art, talent, and the progress of technology.

    1. Re:I know it's unfashionable... by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not, to me, about it being an Apple product, it's about art, talent, and the progress of technology.

      I'm not trolling here, but why does it seem like the buzz is often about apple products then? I don't see much about people creating art with their blackberry or their palm. Or is there a lot of this going on and I just missed it?

      If someone asked me, I would say that it's a combination of Apple products marketed well and that they make pretty good products to begin (e.g. easy to use) -- I don't think that success for a new technological product is really probably without both of these things.

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    2. Re:I know it's unfashionable... by biased_estimator · · Score: 1

      This! Mod parent up!

    3. Re:I know it's unfashionable... by joNDoty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Coincidentally, Chase Jarvis commented on the New Yorker's cover in his blog yesterday:
      http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/

    4. Re:I know it's unfashionable... by eyrieowl · · Score: 1

      I'm not trolling here, but why does it seem like the buzz is often about apple products then? I don't see much about people creating art with their blackberry or their palm. Or is there a lot of this going on and I just missed it?

      My take is that this is largely about "buzz" being a bit of a feedback loop. Apple has been very good about using prior buzz to create new buzz for its new products. This, in turn, has been great at driving sales to people who want the attributes being marketed (ease-of-use, rich functionality). They, in turn, create content that gets buzz (often simply for being an example of how "buzzworth product x" can be used), which helps reinforce the buzz around the product. It's possible that you could do something similar or even better on another phone, almost certainly on some other portable handheld, but those other devices didn't have the hype, so they're not in the hands of the people who might make use of what they could do. So, you don't hear about them doing "cool things" on the other devices and thus they fall further behind in the hype sweepstakes.

      FWIW, we've seen this before with Google. It amazed (and annoyed) me how whenever Google came out with something new on the internet (maps, mail, customizable home pages) so many people I spoke to seemed to honestly think Google had invented those concepts. They hadn't, but, they had the buzz, so they got the mind-share.

    5. Re:I know it's unfashionable... by hondo77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not trolling here, but why does it seem like the buzz is often about apple products then? I don't see much about people creating art with their blackberry or their palm.

      The art was created by a third-party app. Apple did not write Brushes but they made it possible for a developer to not just create it but easily put it in the hands of customers. So, it's not strictly an article about Apple products.

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    6. Re:I know it's unfashionable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't see much about people creating art with their blackberry or their palm."

      That's because Brushes is only for the iPhone. And it is a fantastic application. The only Blackberry with a touch screen is the Storm. It doesn't have these kinds of applications because it is aimed at a very different market.

  16. Cool process by tsalmark · · Score: 1

    I found the process far more interesting than the choice of technology. I find it interesting that he drew each layer completely, even if it was going to be over written. I always try to figure out shat is not obscured then draw only that. Obvously I'm not an artist, nor do I have any training.

    1. Re:Cool process by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 1

      yeah i saw that. You could only see 1 person and part of a taxi in the end picture even though they were all drawn there before being oblitered with a hot dog stall and some large silholettes... strange.

    2. Re:Cool process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always try to figure out shat is not obscured then draw only that.

      Shat!? As in shit, shat, shitted? Eeeeeewwww.... What are you doing there?

  17. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Calling an iPhone a communications device is like calling a computer a word processing device. Apple has made damn sure with all of their marketing that people associate more than communication with the iPhone, it's made out to be more like a PDA with a phone program than a phone. And I doubt this is the first time an artist has made "print-ready" work (for various definitions of "print-ready") from a PDA. This still seems like a piece of Apple fluff.

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  18. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    an iPhone with a beefier processor, some USB ports and a mini HDMI port (a la Macbook) and you have your next desktop replacement device. Not only would you have phone calls, but with an HDMI - VGA adaptor, you have a screen to do world processing, image editing, video editing, audio editing, 3D, whatever.

    This is a joke right? No serious professional is going to be doing image/video editing or drawing on a color-inaccurate 3.5" screen.

  19. Have you actually read it? [Re:In other news...] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In un-related news the New Yorker seems to be having financial problems as fewer and fewer people read the garbage they publish.

    Have you actually read any of the articles lately? Skipping the fiction and the poetry, the nonfiction articles are some of the most interesting and insightful reporting available. The articles by Oliver Sachs alone are worth the subscription. Some random selections are at http://www.newyorker.com/

  20. A different outlook on technology by giuseppemag · · Score: 0

    I liked the article. It helped a geek like me to get in touch with the kind of power technology has as a way to achieve *something else*, as opposed to simply being something cool and interesting in itself. Sometimes it's nice to feel the perspective of the outer world on matters of the inner world. Now, I just gotta go find something new to play with...

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  21. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by sbeckstead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Guess what, you're wrong.

  22. Apple buys more advertising media than most.... by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    I think the New Yorker knows its a good idea to find a way to put Apple on the cover. As I recall, Apple has been a dominant advertising presence for a while. I think its a good bet they can afford most print media these days, therefore Apple is good butt to kiss if you have an infinite supply of advertising to sell. There is only one front page, and the New Yorker gives it to them in good faith....like taking out a hot date for a night on the town.....after all its the Big Apple. Now they can approach Microsoft to buy space in order to square off with their enemy....maybe they get a prominent placement too. Microsoft will try to remind us we can't afford an Apple or else we would have bought it by now. The sky is falling down so don't buy anything you can't afford! Apple has placement at the front of the Good Book as well, and temptation remains the theme. How fitting to grab this cover, and at viral media prices: free. Take a bite says the serpent to Eve....

    1. Re:Apple buys more advertising media than most.... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Imagine that--an artsy magazine glorifies products from artsy computer companies!

    2. Re:Apple buys more advertising media than most.... by steve_bryan · · Score: 1

      ...Microsoft will try to remind us we can't afford an Apple or else we would have bought it by now. The sky is falling down so don't buy anything you can't afford!....

      Hmm, $230 for an 8GB iPod touch and $5 for Brushes. How can anyone afford such extravagance? (Of course there is the probable expense of all those years of art school).

  23. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Guess what, I'm not. If you think no work was done to that picture outside of the iPhone before it was printed then you clearly are stupid. Secondly, show me a real professional image or video editor doing work on a color-inaccurate 3.5" LCD screen. I'm not talking some random dipshit on the internet who claims to be a professional, I mean someone who works at a real film studio or a post-production house.

  24. Umm.. never? by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Take a look at the blurred and aquarelle-like picture in TFV and compare it with other New Yorker covers and then think about what you wrote there.
    While you are at it - try writing a memo on your phone.

    If it is an iPhone there is probably an app for it. Or two. Or 183.
    I hear that there is an app for EVERYTHING on iPhone.

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  25. Colours for the DS by Spatial · · Score: 2, Informative

    The DS has a homebrew drawing program called 'Colours'. Check out the drawings people have made with it. Unlike the iPhone the DS supports pressure sensitivity, although it's not used in official programs (if I remember correctly it's due to per-unit variance and being forbidden by the official guidelines).

    A PSP-sized device with that kind of capability would be a pretty great portable drawing device. The DS is a bit too small for me.

  26. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by PitaBred · · Score: 1

    Aren't most display devices LCD any more? Why is it "color-inaccurate" then? Most views of it will be on an electronic media, which would mean that the source is what makes the definitive colors.

  27. Mods Mods come quick! by cheftw · · Score: 1

    -1 Bullying!

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    1. Re:Mods Mods come quick! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 0, Troll

      I thought it was more like shooting fish in a barrel. Please - don't ruin my fun. Firing rounds into man-children who have mental problems is 14 levels harder than this. Call it a guilty pleasure - without the guilt (and half the calories). This one's a corker! He's 5 minutes into my lunch and already lives in Hawaii and has orgies.

      Fucking fantastic! Or mind-blowingly pathetic. Actually it can be all of these things and more.

  28. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    an iPhone with a beefier processor, some USB ports and a mini HDMI port (a la Macbook) and you have your next desktop replacement device. Not only would you have phone calls, but with an HDMI - VGA adaptor, you have a screen to do world processing, image editing, video editing, audio editing, 3D, whatever.

    This is a joke right? No serious professional is going to be doing image/video editing or drawing on a color-inaccurate 3.5" screen.

    This is a joke right? No serious professional is going to be doing image/video editing or drawing on a color-inaccurate 3.5" screen.

    Yeah. So the guy that just created and SOLD the cover of the bloody NEW YORKER on the iPhone is not a "serious professional", right?

    Matter of fact, in my field, thousands of working photojournalists (those in the top ranks among them) work with similar (color-inacurate) screens and no color correction. The color differences are subtle in 99% of the cases, and don't matter in 99.9% of them, especially when printed in newspaper and/or magazine papers.

  29. Bob Ross? by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Is that you?

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  30. Watching the drawing process by Spatial · · Score: 1

    I forgot to mention that, like most of these types of drawing programs, you can watch how the images were drawn. Click a picture and the next page will have a button for it.

  31. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 0

    All LCDs are not created equal. If you're printing something, it matters what colors you use, and the colors you use are going to be the ones you see. So if they are not accurately represented on your screen, it's going to look bad in print.

    Also, web browsers are generally terrible at displaying color, which doesn't matter because the people viewing on the web have color-inaccurate LCD screens...it's enough to make your eyes bleed.

    And we're just barely scratching the surface of how bad computers and printers are at color reproduction. Compare any print of any oil painting to the original. Alternately, compare this hack finger painter to a real artist...

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  32. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 1

    "an iPhone with a beefier processor, some USB ports and a mini HDMI port (a la Macbook) and you have your next desktop replacement device."

    There are some problems with this that can't be solved with attachments. Firstly you'd need the software to do this, granted someone can probably write a piece of software for an I-phone but frankly unless there's a demand, no one will bother to do this, and you end up with some half assed quick time editing thing made from someone's basement.
    that aside, there's also the issue with storing data, can you get sixteen gigs on an I-phone? that's a short video, and I bet the drive is slow as hell, so you'd need to carry an external hard drive raid and a power supply and so forth.
    Ok, forget even that, let's say you're editing five minute compressed videos for your blog or something, you still need screen space to edit. Can't see anything full screen, because the resolution is tiny, and you can't fit a full time line on screen, not to mention the tools or the transition windows. So, sorry, but the form factor just makes the thing useless for anyone that's interested in anything more then just a toy.

  33. Working with more natural subjects by Jamamala · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Another thing that's cool about this particular project is that the artist said it allowed him to just quietly work in the corner. He didn't have to set up with an easel and influence the behaviour of the people around him. To everyone else, he must have just looked like he was texting.

  34. Happy Troll Tuesday by spun · · Score: 1

    I know you. You are my little pet stalker, aren't you? You write just like that AC from a while back. It's nice to know that I have fans that care about me so much. Please, do go on, I find your interest fascinating.

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    1. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Of course you do - it's the first time anyone has shown you the slightest bit of attention all year. But please - don't let me stop you from getting the last word in. Somewhere along your attempts at construction some elaborate conspiracy fantasy, and your sudden delusions of fame, you might come to the sad realization that someone is actually getting pleasure from watching you describe - to the world - what a failure your life is.

      Not since steam powered locomotives, have wrecks been so much fun. Particularly over lunch.

      Your typing skills didn't come with the GED tho did it? Your last words are coming up short. Is language that hard for you?

    2. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by spun · · Score: 1

      Your obsession over me knows no bounds, does it? Drop me an email, I live in Albuquerque, if you are nearby, we could get together and play out that domination/humiliation fantasy of yours. I'll spank your bottom and you can call me Daddy.

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    3. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      New Mexico? I thought you had nubile sex maniacs pawing you in Hawaii?

      I doubt you're even in New Mexico. I'm guessing - with all apologies to current residents - Cape Girardeau Missouri? Someplace south of St. Louis - it smells like backwoods country, where the living is easy and so is dating your sister. Where you can taste the fried squirrel brain sandwiches. Which are often larger than the brains of the people who live there (shit - that kind of nullified my apology - oh well).

      At least you're in an ass rutt tho - that sounds about right for someone living in the location where they shot Deliverance. I think we're in stone-throw from truth-land again.

    4. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the entertainment. I don't know or care about your life in the slightest, but it's always funny to watch people who don't know each other in the least sling personal insults back and forth while trying to prove how little the other person is bothering them.

      In case you were wondering, you both come off looking like douchebags. That's the fun of it!

    5. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by spun · · Score: 1

      If you want me to keep abusing you, you can email me at seth dot rightmer at state dot nm dot us. Subject line should read, 'Daddy, I've been naughty and I need a spanking.'

      What are you wearing? Is it see through? Kinky little monkey, you like it rough, don't you? Trust me,I can deliver, but for you I'll have to charge a premium.

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      - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
    6. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Fun creates fun - it's that kind of shared cultural experience that brings us all together. Thanks for the warm thoughts.

      Although isn't douchebag kind of dated? I mean - if you're over 14? Why not try colostomy bag, rectal plugs, or a host of other squishy tech?

      But hey - don't give me all the credit - I'm not the one with an orgy ranch in Hawaii. I'm the guy with the lunar outpost remember?

    7. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Oh no - you're getting angry again. Must be getting close to the lifestyle as it exists in real-life. Odd that you're fishing for "new material" didn't you just say the same thing a few (dozen) posts now?

      Breathe - breathe - take it down - you can live with being a walking failure on the govt dole. No shame in that - in these trying times, even car companies are on welfare. You're like a rudderless CEO - without the education, money, career, location, job, cultural awareness, social skills, wife, friends .... um - hmmm perhaps CEO isn't the right word to be comparing to.

    8. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by spun · · Score: 1

      Too far off base to register, you need to hit closer to home for your barbs to actually hurt. That's the problem with lifestyle guesses as trolling material, you need to be sure of your aim before you use them or you just look silly. You should also rethink the 'I'm making you dance to my tune,' trick, it's outdated and it almost always backfires. Not that I haven't used it too, but it's a throwaway. I've found using sex and sexual innuendo to be good trolling fun, especially with prudes.

      Anyways, it's been fun, thanks for the laughs, sorry if my quip about the New Yorker offended you. I know lots of people like the magazine, and the writers there are quite talented, it just bores me to tears is all.

      Drop me an email any time, you have my state email address. Ah, the life of a high level state sysadmin: it is boredom incarnate. If I didn't have trolling random strangers for entertainment, I don't know what I'd do.

      Yeah, yeah, "Your job" is the obvious comeback, but I do my job, that's the problem. Everything just works right, and everyone else here moves slower than molasses.

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      - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
    9. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      re:"high level state sysadmin"

      Who the fuck does that impress? If you put that on a business card do the chicks swoon into your sysadmin biceps? Does it get you a free ice cream at the sizzler?

      Now I'm confused. You basically - perfectly - admitted earlier that you were a loser nerd with no social skills and self-deludes himself with a fantasy life of a 12 year old. Did your above admission go beyond that? Help me out here.

      As far as dancing to my tune - have you seen the length of this thread? I'd say by your shifting tone you were getting pretty pissed off. You're trying to cover it with "oh ha ha - this was fun" 18 posts after the fact - which kind of stretches the credibility a tad.

      Please don't go on my account. Enlighten the planet on the real SPUN - man-child of the Slashdot, keeper of all things sysadminy and is proud enough to tell people what you do in bars and actually be serious enough to think that it's a badge of honor.

    10. Re:Happy Troll Tuesday by spun · · Score: 1

      How does the number of posts in this thread make me look bad, but not you? Isn't that a tad hypocritical?

      I can't help it if my lifestyle makes you jealous. Maybe if you did something worthwhile of your own, you wouldn't feel so bad about yourself. No, getting published in the New Yorker doesn't count. Tell me, did that liberal arts degree get you a managers job at the Burger King, or are you still working the cash register?

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      - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
  35. The big story is by Archimonde · · Score: 1

    Artist can create art on almost any medium while my biggest achievement is a stick figure pictured below ;)-

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    Trolls are like broken clocks. They show the truth two times a day. The rest of the day they talk nonsense.
  36. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by nuOpus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've used the brushes app before. This was not edited outside of the iPhone. That application really does a good job simulating paint and brushes. And yes, you can do this with a WinMo device. The difference is the interface of this application, the accuracy of a capacitive screen, and the multitouch make the combination of this app and this phone seem natural. Zooming in and out is effortless by pinching in and out. And the speed and sensitivity is perfect. I have used paint applications on my Winmo, and they don't feel very natural. Doing multiple strokes with textured brushes with transparency set on a winmo device doesn't feel very good ... not as fluid.

  37. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm such a fan of people who make absolute statements based on personal assumptions and prejudices because it allows me to ignore them from that point forward.

    Thank you!

  38. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A "real artist"? I don't even know what to say to that. You must have been living under a rock for the past 4000 years. If there's such a thing as a "real artist" it's the artist who challenges conventions, like by presenting a finger painting as print-quality commercial art. Art is all about expression, and I can't think of anything artsier than noticing a poignant urban scene and sitting down on the spot and spending a few hours capturing it. Not a color-accurate, realist perfect reproduction but a blurry finger painting just enough to communicate what the artist was feeling.

  39. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Kjella · · Score: 1

    I call nonsense. Yes, clearly we could make much smaller laptops, let's call them iPhones if you will, if we didn't include a monitor or keyboard but then there'd have to be a monitor and keyboard everywhere you'd like to use it as a desktop/laptop. Just like very many of those I know in a professional setting use a docking station to get dual monitors, full sized keyboard, full sized mouse etc. it's not the computer, it is the interfaces. Saying "they all have input devices (keypads, sensitive screens, cameras)" as if any and all input devices were alike doesn't make any sense. Mostly because if you could leave a screen and keyboard everywhere you'd like to use it you might as well leave the rest of the computer too and bring a memory stick. Even if I were to imagine in that direction, I think the iPhone would make the laptop another layer of docking. Or you could say that we make part of the laptop detachable. Either way, it's hardly the end of the laptop. P.S. With Internet and WiFi, the laptop is NOT a communication device? I guess you could say primarily a communications device, but judging from the people I know with iPhones I'm not sure they spend most of their time communicating on it either...

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  40. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Think about your current computer (don't care if it's a desktop or a laptop).

    Now think about getting the same processing power, memory and storage capacity... 20 or even 10 years ago.

  41. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck you

  42. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my laptop is better because I don't have to deal with AT&T's shitty service. Dumping them; that's the next big deal.

  43. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by amnezick · · Score: 0

    [...] world processing [...]

    mm .. yes yes .. i knew soon they will make tools for my "grate" take over plan .. mwhahahahaha

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  44. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For graphic artists and photo editors there are "certified" color corrected LCD's out there. Usually they have been tested to match Pantone color samples within a certain margin of error. Usually you pay a premium for them. As of now I have yet to see a statement from Apple advertising the iPhone as color corrected.

  45. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 1

    Think about your current computer (don't care if it's a desktop or a laptop). Now think about getting the same processing power, memory and storage capacity... 20 or even 10 years ago.

    ya ha, I did video editing on it, but I also had this huge card and lots of hard drives and two monitors and stuff that let me do video editing. Can't fit that on an I-phone no matter how hard you try and with time the demand will just keep growing with the hardware power. Who knows, the next HD will come along and everything will be 1080q with mega 3d pixel interfaces... blah blah blah.

  46. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    why use a laptop or desktop computer? Because my eyes are not good enough to make out fine detail on a 2" display? The population in getting older; as they do, they require larger displays, not miniaturized ones. Also, position detection using finger is not accurate enough to do realistic artwork.

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  47. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't most display devices LCD any more?

    Not to be a grammar nazi, but it is "nowadays" not "anymore" in standard English. You are liable to confuse some people using "anymore" like that.

  48. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

    Why is everyone going on and on about the screen being too small or low resolution or having bad colors? He suggested including HDMI-out so it could be hooked up to a normal screen for tasks which require one.

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  49. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    but the point is much more subtle: why use a laptop or desktop computer?

    Because pictures that look like a toddler daubed them with his foot look hip and trendy until about the second time you see one, when it starts to get old and sucky real darn quick?

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  50. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by samkass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Agreed... just the fact that this piece instigated a "what is art?" debate, IMHO, shows that it is art.

    There are a lot of folks on Slashdot who try really, really hard to hate Apple and iPhones, but I think this story really is news for nerds, and really does matter. If you disagree, go click on another story.

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  51. What is it with the iPhone Hype? by tuaris · · Score: 1

    Every time someone does something on the iPhone it becomes news. Their is nothing special about a device doing something it was designed to do.

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  52. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've used the brushes app before.

    Some part of 'serious professionals' giving you trouble?

  53. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Miseph · · Score: 0, Troll

    "There are a lot of folks on Slashdot who try really, really hard to hate Apple and iPhones, but I think this story really is news for nerds, and really does matter. If you disagree, go click on another story."

    Which is weird, because it's so easy. Why put in so much effort when all you need to do is dislike paying extra for an interface you find overrated and irritating?

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  54. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by maxume · · Score: 1

    We are getting rather close to the point where most people already have their next big thing.

    I'm not saying that there won't always be a next big thing, I'm saying that it will be interesting to a smaller and smaller chunk of people. Something more than half of people don't care about video, and so on.

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  55. Wow by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    is all I can say. It is truly amazing that anything created on a phone could embody the level of dignity and sophistication required to appear on the cover of the same magazine that featured the "Obama Terrorist Fist Bump" and other cartoons of much hilarity and wit.

  56. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by hondo77 · · Score: 1

    "Realistic artwork"? I think you miss the point...of art.

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  57. Wait, what? by spun · · Score: 1

    You think I'm conservative? Crap, you aren't the AC I thought you were, you don't actually know me at all. I thought my fricken' stalker had finally outed himself. Ah well, it was still fun, just don't take it personally. You're pretty good, but you do need to learn to mix it up a bit more. And don't try the lifestyle guesses unless you actually know something about your target, when they miss, they give the game away. Just a tip from one troll to another.

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    1. Re:Wait, what? by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      You must spend a lot of man-child nerd hours hooked to this place to be using terms like "AC". Here's a lifestyle guess I can take from this point. You play World of Warcraft, smell of pachouli, and think Hunter S Thompson is "deep". You also have pet ferrets, think ren-fairs are "like-awesome", and consume your weight in enough herbal magic that you think "Larry the Cable Guy" is funny - or worse (shudder) Dane Cook.

      You aren't employed - I think we've established that, and you are basically the opposite of every fantasy point you mentioned in your ego post.

      Oh and you have enough ink on your skin to qualify for hepatitis treatment by any third world charity, use the word Yawl, and think soap is optional.

      Feel free to give me more data because - as I've said before - you're pretty transparent.

    2. Re:Wait, what? by spun · · Score: 1

      Give it a rest already. You aren't even close. I know you need the attention, but please.

      Because you are so interested, I'll let you know a little about me. I don't play WoW, MMORPGs suck. Hunter S Thompson's first book was interesting, the one about the Hell's Angels. The rest? Meh.

      Pet ferrets? That's just random. I have a dog. Patchouli? Am I a hippie or a redneck, get it straight. Larry the Cable Guy and Dane Cook both suck donkey balls. I've never had a tattoo. Yawl? Again, get your barbs straight, am I a redneck or a hippie?

      I bath frequently, women tend to like that sort of thing. I work as a sysadmin for New Mexico's Child, Youth, and Family Development. Married nine years, and believe it or don't, I really am polyamorous.

      Politically, I'm an anarcho-syndicalist. But I vote Democratic.

      Anyway, it's been fun, I certainly appreciate your tenacity and continued interest in my life, but you should probably email me if you want to continue correspondence.

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      - None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
  58. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Dishevel · · Score: 1

    No. I think he was making the point missing some types of art. Art can be very realistic. To be an artist you do not have to paint everything like a 5 year old.

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  59. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

    The distinction between "communications device" and "computer" blurred about five to ten years ago.

    Welcome to the 21st Century.

    It's the next big deal.

    I'm glad you've finally discovered. Welcome to the party, so glad you can make it as we didn't think you'd be turning up for a moment.

  60. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by pileated · · Score: 1, Troll

    Oh you mean like the 'real' artists who have been copying Marcel Duchamps' urinal for over 100 years, tingling all over at just how radical and unconventional they are? Give me a break. This is nothing more than marketing for both Apple and the artist. I'd be embarrassed to both have made the art and to be the magazine that is displaying it. Sad to say I subscribe to the New Yorker. If their writing had as little so show for it as this art I'd drop my subscription tomorrow.

    There has been a great deal of technological hype in the news over the last 10 years (and maybe 100 years if I really investigated). Newspapers, magazines, tv and other media often don't understand a topic well. But they do see a 'hook' they can use to latch onto something they don't understand. So the media see a new Kindle and think it will save newspapers. Or twitter will save just about anything. 'Everyone knows: Live Goes Better with Twitter!'. Or in this case: 'Look at this: if you wanted to you could make a drawing on your teeny little iphone'. You wouldn't have any control over line because the screen is too small to allow any subtlety of hand movement, the way you can with a pen or pencil on a sheet of paper. And it's so small you can't see any detail, so you don't know how it will look when it's printed much larger. And the color is probably off and won't look like what it will when it's printed. But you can say you did it on a phone. That's all that counts. We've got a hook! Print it.

    Something similar happened recently with birding and The World Series of Birding. Most media will ignore birding for an entire year or more. Then along comes the World Series of Birding, which has a familiar, measurable, sportlike aspect to it. That's a hook. So everybody covers The World Series of Birding. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just that it misses what birding is to most people. But normal birding doesn't have that hook.

  61. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

    The point is that all he's describing is a small computer with video out, that is not in any way closer to the Iphone than a wide range of other devices out there today.

    Even Captain Obvious can work out that computers are going to keep getting smaller.

  62. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by sbeckstead · · Score: 1, Troll

    Guess What again, you are STILL wrong!

  63. Behold as I shoot myself in the foot... by derGoldstein · · Score: 1

    I can't believe I'm pissed enough to post the following and likely launch myself to karma hell, but I am:

    *I* modded that up. Look at the comment from the same poster linking to the message pad. This is nothing but hype, and the worse kind of it. The link to the tablet PC is a single-glance response to the entire thread.

    Crap like "Before, unless I had a flashlight or a miner's hat, I could not draw in the dark." and "Colombo leans heavily on the Undo feature". OMFG! Apple brought us light! And the UNDO feature!
    The cover being created using an iPhone was a gimmick, the article about it was pandering, and the link from /. is simply embarrassing. There's no mod option for "+1 correct response to the entire thread".

    Earlier today I was shot and the bullet hit the iPhone. The iPhone saved my life! It's a miracle!
    It was also hooked up to a speaker in an OR where a surgeon implanted a kidney. It's a surgical instrument!
    I often use the iPhone to shield my skin from harmful sunlight, to eat dinner off of, and to wipe my ass. It's my new GOD.

    What pisses me off most is that this type of crap gets linked from /., somewhere I visit in hope to find hype and fraud rebuked. And then I find these types of "articles".

    And of course by saying this I'm obviously a biased "hater". Fine by me.

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  64. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by parlancex · · Score: 1

    Ignore this guy, he's an RIAA shill and/or a repeat troll. His personal blogs include "RIAA Today" and "Bachelor Survival". I think that pretty much sums it up.

  65. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the next big deal... what?

    As an artist, I'm not all kinds of excited about previewing my work on a 3"x4" screen.

    Call me crazy.

  66. Good Point by meehawl · · Score: 1

    That's true, good point. I've just plugged in the old 2000-vintage Wacom to check how Photoshop registers coverage using the stylus. There seems to be an on-off signal, a pressure signal and yes, for some brushes, a time component that strengthens or re-iterates the effect when held stationary over an area.

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  67. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by rgo · · Score: 1

    You are right, but the original poster never implied that the device he mentioned would be useful for professionals.
    Think home users.

  68. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by mgblst · · Score: 1

    Feel free to just ignore Apple, the stories and the people who like them. Really. Nobody is asking for your comment. Lots of people don't like their devices, fine, I am not sure why so many of these people feel the need to comment. I have no interest in game consoles, maybe I should have a whinge that people shouldn't be playing games and wasting their lives, everytime there is a story about that... or maybe I should just go to the next story.

  69. Troll Tuesday Explained by spun · · Score: 1

    You've been a good sport, and you have potential. Okay, so here's the gag. Troll Tuesday is an old tradition dating back to the time they implemented karma here. The way it works is, people with a lot of karma burn some of it off on Tuesdays, by saying stupid, outrageous, outlandish, wrong, and inflammatory things. In the process we get newbs who can ill afford to lose their karma to flame us and lose theirs. Call it our community service.

    You have potential as a troll, because you've posted some smart and or funny stuff, as well as demonstrating your capacity to be a flaming asshole. You just need to get better at knowing when to blow it, and when to build it up.

    That concludes our lesson. Good luck in your future trolling endeavors.

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    1. Re:Troll Tuesday Explained by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Given your responses - including the use of "asshole" in the latest double-post (I must have seriously pissed you off to get more than one nerdy sign-off unsurprisingly) I can see that I was closer to the truth than you've ever been in this thread.

      The fact that you've framed this around some insider nerd contest (which I couldn't give a fuck about, and most women would laugh at as being "teenager cute") proves - in the end - that you're a socially malformed sexless nerd. In fact - everything in this thread points to this fact.

      Here's the truth behind your little game.
      I wasn't playing.

      I was exposing, to the readers here, your failed life, your lack of humor, your poor writing, and your sexual delusions. And further proof? I don't give a shit about "slashdot-karma". Nerds do - in fact you've made a little game to wholly place some kind of nerd-value on "karma". Or worse - you're such a nerd that you've invented this pathetic little game as a story covering for your little public meltdown. An intricate little scenario only a hardcore nerd could fathom.

      For anyone to give a shit (let alone 2 shits) about a website's rules, indicates a life spent wholly online - not offline. It's a warning sign to those who are socially inept and give value to fringe things because life isn't letting them in to the rest of the human experience. And oh look - it's pointing right at you.

      Game over nerd - but then the game was over for you years ago when your arrested development firmly cemented you at 12.

    2. Re:Troll Tuesday Explained by spun · · Score: 1

      Game's over, silly. You don't pass go, you don't collect $200. Thanks for playing Troll Tuesday, you win a decreased reputation and a complete failure to achieve your stated goals.

      I'm still smarter than you, more eloquent, have a better body, get WAY more sex, a bigger paycheck, have more stuff, professional acclaim, and respect than you'll ever get. But you do get this lovely home version of our game, so you can play with yourself.

      BOOM! That's called getting your ass handed to you.

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    3. Re:Troll Tuesday Explained by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      Nope - in your nerd world you got served and publicly outed as a compulsive liar who has delusions that won't quit and remains locked in a man-child shell at the mental age of 12. So, is this still "troll tuesday" (whatever the fuck that means to your nerdy little brain) or are you still trying to get the last word in like a person who hasn't seen a woman naked?

      I'm guessing the latter of the two - but please - prove me right.

  70. I'm not an artist by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1

    so I found that he created the background images, only to almost totally obscure them by foreground images, pretty interesting. You can clearly see pedestrians and three cabs about mid-way through; but by the time of the final image you can barely see the light of one of the cabs. Interesting, to me at least.

    Can an Artist comment on if that's a typical of the process of iterating on the image, or is it done to give depth of field etc that wouldn't be possible to layer in later? I suppose if I were to go about it, I would draw the front images first, and then put in the background for depth--which would be pretty hard, but I wouldn't be obscuring first layers of work either.

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  71. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1
    Nice to be so snarky, buttface.

    Read the comments in this thread, and you will find that most of them are FAR behind what you and I are talking about.

    Your sarcasm is not grounded - while it is true that comm devices are computers, their capabilities are limited. We do not YET have a true "iPhone" that is also a full on desk/laptop level computer.

    What I was pointing out was an obvious point, true, made clear years ago, true, but still not (yet) implemented. Your snarky sarcasm simply comes off as hipsterism.

    What i see is this, and I see it in the next 5 years:

    something like an iPhone with HDMI out and USB ports. You plug in a screen and a mouse/keyboard and you have a full on computer running fucking Microsoft Office or the Adobe Suite, or whatever. It takes calls and it runs video, etc. You want ot watch a movie? You got to AppleTV / whatever and it streams a movie to your HD screen. it might not be HD at frist - perhaps just heavily compressed 720i - but eventually HD comes into play.

    With whatever variant of USB is available, you have access to external drives for data and media.

    This was all outlined to me, personally, by A Very Important Person ten years ago. It has taken a while for it to get here due to the vagaries of the market, and will act as the physical manifestation of the kind of convergence envisioned by Jenkins and others.

    If this is too elementary for you, then please do us all the kind favour of either exercising your glorious genius and INVENT SOMETHING BETTER, or fuck off, shut up, and keep your snark to yourself.

    RS

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  72. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by sbeckstead · · Score: 0, Troll

    Actually You Are Wrong also!

  73. Correction. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peaple [sic] are copying Mona lisa in MS Paint. THIS is not an achievement.

    Problem is these people had to wait till Da Vinci imagined and created the Mona Lisa. What if he had never painted it? Would these people have been able to "paint" it, as you posit? Of course not. There's a big difference between creating, and merely copying. Yeah, I too can record Stairway To Heaven, especially since Led Zeppelin already did it!

  74. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by ZosX · · Score: 1

    I second that. I post process photos and do design all the time on my ancient Dell 19" Trinitron, and the colors are not really all that great but still close enough that I doubt it makes a huge overall difference. Apple spends a lot of money on display technology and I would imagine that the iphone was designed with a top quality screen. I can't see how the color could be all that inaccurate, especially when you consider the quality of the built in camera and the screen certainly has to color match with that.

  75. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Lunzo · · Score: 1

    Have people like yourself and many of the other posters in this thread even looked at the cover picture? (I know I'm new here and no one RTFAs). The only similarity to the average 5 year old's work is that it was done using fingers. I think the cover is beautiful how it hints at the city street, and much more powerful than a photograph of the same scene would have been.

  76. Pricasso by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was at a (sex-themed) convention the other day, and there was a guy who painted portraits with his penis. Quite impressive quality even.

  77. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd be embarrassed to both have made the art and to be the magazine that is displaying it.

    I think you can rest easy that you'll never be put in a similar position as either this artist or the New Yorker.

    I'm not a fan of the New Yorker or this particular aesthetic style, but this is both legitimately art and news. This is a cover that fits in with other covers the New Yorker has shown, and was made in a way showing the current state of technology -- we are now at the point of pocket sized computers useful for high-level art. Personally I'm more excited by having a pocket-sized real-time music workstation, but it's all pretty exciting stuff.

  78. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 1

    "Guess what, I'm not."

    Guess what, you were wrong when you said that digital photography could never replace film in the professional world, and you're wrong this time, too.

    (Well, maybe you didn't say that, but a lot of people who sounded a lot like you did.)

  79. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Dr.+Hellno · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    this post... the layout of the text, the sensual prose... truly, it must be art!

    On the other hand, look how guy uses the word really four times in a single sentence. It cannot be art!

    K I debated art because of your post so your post is art now. I expect an offer from the louvre will follow shortly.

  80. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by JDHowells · · Score: 1

    "half assed"? "Someone's basement"?? How dare you! Those are the two pillars on which Slashdot is built.

  81. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Nintendo DS is a better painting platform than the iPhone. The iPhone is an inherently flawed tool for this purpose. A five dollar set of watercolors would be better than either, but if you must have digital painting wherever you go, get a DS.

    The iPhone's merits as a phone, internet appliance, camera or mobile computing platform aside, it is a *terrible* painting tool.

  82. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 1

    Yes, it would be wonderful if he had presented a finger painting as print-quality art. The colors would be richer, the level of control would be greater, the image would almost certainly be more expressive, and you would have things like fingerprints incorporated in the work, bringing a wonderful depth to the picture, the canvas serving as a gateway to the artist rather than just a representation of a scene.

    Instead, we have a bad digital sketch, from someone using a bad tool. Anyone who can imagine the output of an iPhone as "print-quality commercial art" knows nothing of commercial art nor of printing. As a sketch, it's far from unique: you can find thousands of them on the internet: conceptart.org has many people who work in a very similar style. This painter, in addition to choosing one of the least expressive media possible (the nintendo DS at least has pressure sensitivity) has a demonstrated lack of skill. The color palette is flat and inexpressive, the composition is uninteresting, the brushwork is no better than what could be obtained by using a Photoshop filter, and the whole piece displays an utter insensitivity to value. It is bad, boring, and unoriginal.

    The only thing going for it is the shallow novelty of being produced on an iPhone. The iPhone is many things to a varying degree of quality, but as an artistic platform it is completely worthless. I did not and will not dispute the classification of Jorge Colombo's work as Art, but I will vigorously defend it as an example of bad art.

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  83. Re:So what's the news? Something subtle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have no idea what you're talking about. Pantone doesn't even enter the picture, and you can't 'certify' something's color accuracy, nor have color correction set at a factory and have it work under all lighting conditions.

    More expensive LCDs have a wider gamut, higher contrast ratio, and are designed to be used with hardware color calibration tools.

    Since calibrating the iPhone would almost certainly be impossible, it is not a good idea to use it to produce art intended for print.

  84. iPhone only? by archammer2 · · Score: 1

    I have to say, this little piece got me interested in the iPhone. But, I've got a question for the Slashdot crowds who are experts on such things... I don't want to buy an iPhone (as I have a perfectly fine phone now), but I want to use this Brushes app. Would it also work on an iPod Touch?
    Pardon the potentially stupid question.

    1. Re:iPhone only? by steve_bryan · · Score: 1

      The user's manual indicates the app works on the iPhone and the iPod touch. If you plan to buy an iPod touch you might want to wait until the WWDC to see if they announce an iPod touch with new features like 802.11n networking, camera or some other tempting new capability.

  85. Just look! by steve_bryan · · Score: 1

    Would all of you cynics take the time to try to get a look at some of the results? Some of the pictures are stunning and especially so when you consider the work was done on a handheld device. Obviously the people creating the sample pictures are talented artists but given the constraints I can't believe what they managed. It is like watching a dog play a Bach fugue.

    This item is news because it draws attention to a surprising and unexpected achievement.

  86. So sad, you think getting laid is hard! by spun · · Score: 1

    Hehe, you know what is sad? You think getting laid is hard. It isn't hard at all, especially if you are over 35, have a good job, a nice car, and groom yourself. Go out to a bar once in a while, kid. Check the classifieds. Getting laid is easy. Only dorks like you think its impossible.

    Aaaaand we're done.

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    1. Re:So sad, you think getting laid is hard! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      So, is this still "troll tuesday" (whatever the fuck that means to your nerdy little brain) or are you still trying to get the last word in like a person who hasn't seen a woman naked?

      I'm guessing the latter of the two - but please - prove me right.