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Firefox 3.5 Hits Release Candidate Milestone
macupdate writes "Firefox 3.5rc1 has started trickling to users (mirrors and appropriate pages should all be updated soon). You can read the release notes. RC1 still scores a 93/100 on the Acid3 test."
Since chrome did 100/100 and its "beta"
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Beta 99
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
So, does this version finally supports industry standards, such as H.264, or is it still trying to push Theora which nobody uses and that can't even begin to compare to H.264?
I still don't understand the obsession with Acid tests - they measure performance in incredibly obscure areas and have a comparatively small bearing on real world performance. Webkit and Opera in particular have designed to the test to an extent, resulting in good scores but not necessarily comparable general compliance. I'm also slightly confused by the use of the word "still" - none of these bugs are severe enough to risk breakage leading up to a release candidate. I believe far more relevant are performance, bug fixes, features and HTML5/CSS3 support (which make far more of a contribution to moving the web on that Acid Test scores do) - areas in which Firefox 3.5 has improved dramatically. Talk about focusing on the negatives...
Yes, even slower than IE8. From start up times to rendering pages firefox is by far the slowest. If you don't believe me download IE8, use it for a week, and you'll see for yourself. IE8 sucks for other reasons (crashes more, no plugins, forgets log-ins), and firefox is my main browser, but it is seriously falling behind. It's speed, private browsing, and I would argue even security (no sandbox/protected mode) are subpar compared to the competition. And they really need to fix private browsing, it's pretty sad when an IE feature works better than the open source alternative. As repeated ad-nauseum here firefox is still my main browser due to plugins, but everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decision.
Another failure for Open Source. There are now TWO non-beta 100% fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available (Opera and Safari). Why can't the "Open Source" community come up with something competitive?
This just goes to show that Open Source is not even CLOSE to being as good a development methodology as it is so often proclaimed to be. In point of fact, every major open source project (GIMP, Linux, Firefox, etc) is not even remotely comparable to its closed source competitors. At this point the real question needs to be whether open sourcing code is good for anything at all. In my opinion, the concept of "open source" needs to join the "man month" and the "waterfall method" in the pantheon of trendy, but useless, software development gimmicks.
Mod me down, freetards, I know you dont want to hear the truth.
Anyone know if xmarks, adblock, and firebug extensions are available for it yet? If so I'll download it in a heartbeat.. Otherwise I think I'll wait.
If you want it now replace 3.5b4 to 3.5rc1 in the URL from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html Might not be intended but it worked for me.
I wish Mozilla would make up their minds: are they going to target the Corps or not?
Even if you can get an MSI from Frontmotion (http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/download_firefox.htm), the corps will never go for it unless it comes off the Mozilla servers and is on the same web page as the current XPI installers. It's a "warm and fuzzy" thing that they need.
If Mozilla could somehow sanction those MSIs from Frontmotion then the corps would be more comfortable with it. Even a link from here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html) would give FrontMotion's MSI package credibility.
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RC1 still scores a 93/100 on the Acid3 test.
Minefield has scored 94/100 for quite some time now, so I doubt Shiretoko will score any better at release.
I know it's a tired topic, but it's a legitimate one, and not one that can be explained away by saying "extension writers suck".
But the new "improved" Xorg breaks Intel graphics hardware acceleration. Fix it, teabaggers!
I don't think anyone with a decent PC is going to be frustrated by the performance on 3.5
I don't understand what you mean by "decent". Low-cost subnotebook PCs optimized for size and battery life over CPU speed have become popular over the past year; are those "indecent"?
Will the fix either the spellchecker (which is supposed to be enabled automatically) or the documentation (which says it's supposed to be enabled automatically).
Probably not - they're too busy adding support for XZXZXZXZRSSML 5.3.1.2.c. Still, I prefer it as a browser to IE, especially on forum type sites where IE is sloooooow, but the help & documentation are total babber.
This is actually a pre-RC build, the actual RC should be coming in the next week.
See this site for more details.
http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2009/06/17/firefox-35-beta-users-will-receive-update-to-early-release-candidate/
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when firefox first started out it was ok, a lightweight alternative to Mozilla/Netscape but feature creep bloated it up that even Seamonkey runs just as good and even better in most cases than firefox so whats the point of firefox anymore, i rather just get seamonkey since it already has a built in email client, but for just a stand alone lightweight browser i been using dillo for a GUI browser and lynx for a console/cli text mode browser, besides it is the text is what i am after anyway, i could care less for plugins and graphical animations which is just kludge anyway that offer no insight & information anyway
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This isn't really the kind of information I would like to share, and I imagine other people might not like it either, so to just disable it so you won't even be asked, do the following:
All information summarized (read: stolen wholesale) from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/
I don't get the problem of the test showing you a distorted image. If you're seeing it on Acid, what would you expect?
would open in new tabs like they do in Opera.
No one even notice the new Firefox icon?
Here is the RC1 link:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.5rc1&os=win&lang=en-US
All I did was change "?product=firefox-3.5b4" to "?product=firefox-3.5rc1" and it worked. You'd be surprised what you can find by guessing URLs.
Enjoy.
I just installed beta4 late last night/early this morning. Hadn't even had a chance to fire it up yet.
I'll go update it to RC1 straightaway, so we can move on with RC2 tomorrow.
(You're welcome.)
Kid-proof tablet..
In fact, even home users using OS X lives problem with "Drag Drop" installs if they aren't admin (super user) and the poor Finder's architecture of "if not owned by user, prompt" functionality is being relied on.
OS X is generally clever on that area but just moments ago, it stopped at half eventually giving up replacing the .app directory (which we see as Firefox.app) breaking the working executable.
If it was a .pkg, OS X would launch its Installer.app, it would nicely ask for admin credentials, store the app in "user neutral" way (not in uid of the admin dragging it) and store its metadata at /Library/Receipts. It doesn't do "healing" etc. yet but large Mac networks admins end up creating "Firefox.pkg" themselves just like you for similar reasons.
Really interesting is, they also give up the best feature of MSI. If you do it right, it can even "heal" the overwritten or missing files right? It really matters to home users.
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For a web developer 93/100 is more than enough, such a (high) score is well suited to do everything you'd expect from a modern browser. The need to hit 100% is overrated, if you're a web developer you know what I mean. Firefox takes the approach of "what really matters" to web developers and users and that is not only passing the acid 3 test but also "next-generation" (HTML5) features like web workers (threads), native video, animated SVGs, Canvas and other stuff that other browser(s) that hit 100/100 aren't yet able to do for now, but which is much more welcome than the remaining 7% of the acid test.
Like my private links page.
It's a simple little page with about two layers of tables, and one of the recent Opera builds pounds it. (I think the one before last week's release.)
So now I don't know if it's because my page isn't Standard Compliant or if Opera is just throwing a snit.
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W3's HTML validator is a good place to start researching.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Or thank NoScript, rather.
Flash is now a significant malware vector.
Yea, I'd known about that but this morning I finally spent a few hours to switch my page over to microsteps of style type. Now I have a clean 4.01 Transitional rating. Yay!
I'll check the page again at work to see if Opera is still giving me fits or not.
I'll also have to put that page back on my resource links now I know how to get clean readings.
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