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New Chrome Beta Adds Themes, Speed, & HTML 5 Video

adeelarshad82 writes "Google developers are always working on and updating Chrome in three channels — Stable, Beta, and Developer — in increasing positions on the bleeding-edge scale. Today the company thought changes to the Beta channel warranted a post on the main Google Blog. The advances range from the superficial addition of themes for customizing the browser's window borders to even faster speed under the hood to internal support for HTML 5 tags such as <video> and 'web workers,' which allows the browser to divvy processing work among sub-threads."

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  1. Still no Adblock though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When will google learn that plugins, especially something like adblock, is the killer feature they need to attract the "willing to switch" audience, a lot of whom are using firefox right now. I personally love Chrome for its speed and stability, used it for a week or so, but then switched right back to Firefox because I just didn't realise how it is to do many things in Firefox with extensions such as adblock, no script, autopager, del.icio.us integration etc.

    1. Re:Still no Adblock though by Bashae · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe you're asking a little too much from Google. Remember that a significant share of their revenue comes from web advertising...

    2. Re:Still no Adblock though by beelsebob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, when will google learn to add features that block their core business model to their platform for getting at said business.

    3. Re:Still no Adblock though by noundi · · Score: 2

      I think mainly people hate the flashing banners (usually made in flash) jumping around the screen. The way google advertises is to me rather harmless. I have no problems with advertisement, it finances many of my favourite services, but when you're forced to dig your way through the ads in order to get to the content someone failed horribly. As far as I know adblock doesn't filter google ads.

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    4. Re:Still no Adblock though by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 3, Informative

      Adblock is needed because of all those blinking and colourful flash ads that are all around. Googles ads are quite moderate and most people would not mind to see them, so your statement is false.

      This would give a lot of people the motivation to switch to Chrome, which would be a gain for Google while not having big add revenue losses (actually they would gain add revenues, as the js cross site google ads would not be blocked any-more).

      They're problem is probably, that this would raise anti-competitive questions they want to avoid, so this could only be done with an open plugin system (via trusted third party plugins).

    5. Re:Still no Adblock though by markkezner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While plugins would be useful, I think you have the wrong idea about Google's motives with Chrome. Chrome is Google's bid to change the browser market to make it a better platform for their core business, web applications.

      Google isn't as concerned with making Firefox users switch to chrome, because they are already using a (mostly) standards compliant browser. IE is the real target. This seems to explain why, if I browse to google.com in IE7, I'm greeted with an ad banner that invites me to give Chrome a try. Google does not do this if I browse with Firefox or Safari.

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    6. Re:Still no Adblock though by BlueKitties · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Adblockers were never intended to completely kill ads. Add blockers were intended to tell obnoxious advertisers to stop flooding a webpage with garbage. The idea is that, given enough people blocking bad ads, the makers will pipe down and stop flooding sites with ugly litter. Look at /. -- the ad system is so nice, I don't even feel the need to click "disable ads." I think Google folk probably know this, so I would not be surprised if we get a Chrome adblock soon.

      (Then again, I've recently fallen in love with google after discovered Docs/Calender/Etc... ;p)

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    7. Re:Still no Adblock though by joelpt · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think it's fair to say Google is aware of the demand for extensions, since the dev channel version of Chrome currently has support for it.
      http://www.killertechtips.com/2009/05/13/download-sample-google-chrome-extensions/

      Of course the extensions are still rather primitive, but they do work.

      Ad blocker: http://adsweep.org or http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/46974
      Flashblock: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/46673
      Delicious & Twitter: http://www.chromeplugins.org/extensions/lightweight-delicious-bookmarks-twitter-chritter-extensions-released/
      Facebook: http://www.chromeplugins.org/extensions/facebook-notifications-facebook-shortcut-extensions/
      Mouse gestures: http://www.chromeplugins.org/extensions/chrome-gestures-google-chrome-mouse-gestures-extension/

      I should probably put this comment onto my clipboard pastelist, seeing as how the "no Adblock" comment is ubiquitous on virtually every blog post concerning Chrome on the web (closely followed by the uninformed "no Mac" and "no Linux" comments).

      Of course, a quick Google search would have revealed all of this ...

    8. Re:Still no Adblock though by Goaway · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except they have explicitly mentioned AdBlock as something they want to support through their in-development extension system.

    9. Re:Still no Adblock though by lilmunkysguy · · Score: 2, Informative
  2. Does it install in the right place? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Informative

    Has Google managed to get Chrome install in the "program files" director yet? The fact that it installs in "application settings" is the number one reason I can't install it.

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    1. Re:Does it install in the right place? by mrak_attack · · Score: 4, Informative

      Installation to the "App Data" folder makes it possible to instill Chrome by users without Admin rights. For installation into Program Files you need admin rights or special permissions tweaking.

    2. Re:Does it install in the right place? by TJamieson · · Score: 3, Informative

      It also enables the seamless autoupdating for non-Admin users.

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    3. Re:Does it install in the right place? by The+Moof · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I imagine trying to circumvent IT policies isn't winning anyone over in a corporate setting. It's probably doing the opposite. Crazy as it sounds, those IT restrictions are there for a reason, and we don't want people installing and running their own software.

    4. Re:Does it install in the right place? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Err, no. He probably made it impossible to run executables from non-trusted locations.

      The exact reason is that while I have local admin rights, at the office and permission to install it, it conflicts with the rules for McAfee and for that I have don't have access or the permission to change its permissions. The settings for that are controlled by the company's security division and from previous experience getting water from a stone would be easier.

      If Chrome installed in program files then I would not have these issues. The work around is simply to use SRWare Iron, which is probably not such a bad thing anyhow.

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    5. Re:Does it install in the right place? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A recent World of Warcraft patch moved the entire game into "AppData" as well, they claimed it was a "necessity" for Windows Vista 64-bit compatibility.

      WOW *does* incorrectly keep Add-Ons in Program Files, so what was happening is that some Vista users (depending on their permissions) were getting their Add-Ons installed into the fake Program Files folder that Vista keeps around for retarded software written by retarded developers who don't understand permissions. The solution to their problem was to move *just* the Add-Ons folder to where it should have been all along, not the whole multi-GB game! Idiots.

    6. Re:Does it install in the right place? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not a circumvention of IT policies. Google is actually playing nice, and using the standard mechanisms provided by Windows to install per-user - which is also something that's encouraged (not as a sole way of installation, though). In any case, I'm not an admin, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't disable this via group policies or something similar.

  3. Still not a Chrome user by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The first thing that really got me about Chrome was how well it seemed to learn my browsing habits. At least, that was my first impression when I booted it up. The first view you get in Chrome is the "most visited websites" page or something like that. As a incognito porn site surfer, I was really taken aback and worried about privacy issues.

    It took a long time in Firefox to fix the URL history functionality. It used to keep the URLs in some cache so that it could be called up right away when you started entering a URL into the address bar. Now, the URLs at least seem like they are gone forever when you delete them from your History.

    IE still has this problem (in addition to completely retarded address bar behavior). In fact, if you delete the entire browsing history at once, the URLs themselves can never be deleted except by completely clearing the cache, but then that also deletes the "cover" sites that I visit to make it seem like my surfing is just innocuous browsing and not the hardcore porn viewing which it ostensibly is.

    So if Chrome wants my patronage, I think the first thing it needs to do is convince me that my personal privacy is safe. That my URLs aren't going to be cached and exposed at some inopportune time, and that it isn't tracking them for me to helpfully find other related websites.

    In this way, I've found Firefox to be the most accommodating browser on the market today. It does what I want and doesn't try to be smart about it. Funny how so many things in life work better that way.

    1. Re:Still not a Chrome user by ethebubbeth · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just put chrome into Incognito Mode (ctrl+shift+n, or do it from the menu). That accomplishes the same thing as Mozilla Firefox in Private Browsing mode and should prevent it from storing history while you porn surf.

    2. Re:Still not a Chrome user by mumb0.jumb0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      As a incognito porn site surfer, I was really taken aback and worried about privacy issues.

      Interesting choice of words. Chrome has an "incognito mode". From the blurb shown when you open the browser in that mode:

      Pages that you view in this window won't appear in your browser history or search history, and they won't leave other traces, like cookies, on your computer after you close the incognito window. Any files that you download or bookmarks that you create will be preserved, however.

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    3. Re:Still not a Chrome user by mdm-adph · · Score: 4, Informative

      Then load up one window in Incognito mode, and another window that's not. I really don't know what you're complaining about. :\

      If you're looking for absolute privacy, don't use the web. Otherwise, Incognito-mode is about as good as it gets (just remember to clear out your Flash cookies from time to time, the browser doesn't control those).

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  4. Re:Yes... by ashraya · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes it does (Not the crappy wine one). There is a beta native version I use regularly, and on 32-bit it even does plugins (Flash)... However, I got myself a 64-bit comp these days, and it does not run plugins on that one... It feels much faster than Firefox on Linux...

  5. Smooth scrolling yet? by psymastr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does it have smooth scrolling and adblock yet? If not then I can't move. Especially after the huge speedup in FF 3.5.

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    1. Re:Smooth scrolling yet? by TREE · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How can you *stand* smooth scrolling? It's so slow!

      It's one of the first things I turn off, in any app.

  6. I refuse to use a browser that phones home.. by KlaasVaak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm just not going to give google more info about me by using their browser.

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  7. NoScript and Adblock by pzs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a not-very-happy Firefox user, since I find it has horrendous memory leaks. I can get it up to 2GB virtual memory in a morning's average browsing. Yes, I have tried the tips on the Mozilla site.

    However, I have become addicted to a controlled web experience with NoScript and Adblock. I won't be switching to Chrome until I can get similar tools.

    1. Re:NoScript and Adblock by Clarious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In all 4 years I have been using Firefox, I have never seen it went pass 800MBs RAM, even with the heaviest browsing (about 70+ tabs), so I can't understand why people complains so much about it consuming too much ram :-/ Sure it consume quite a bit of ram with normal browsing (171MB with 10 tabs open on Linux right now) but I haven't seen any memory leak yet. I also tend to keep Firefox open for several days too.

    2. Re:NoScript and Adblock by imakemusic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Two slashdot pages at once.

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    3. Re:NoScript and Adblock by pmontra · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh I see. I'm running Firefox 3.5 like this (I'm on Linux too):

      1213m 272m 43m R

      and this is not a problem. The first figure 1213 MB includes also libraries shared with other programs. 272 MB is how much memory Firefox is using on its own. 639 MB for you, which is quite a lot but if you have a lot of tabs and windows it should be expected.

    4. Re:NoScript and Adblock by imakemusic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Try enabling joke detection

      :D

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    5. Re:NoScript and Adblock by wilsoniya · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can get it up to 2GB virtual memory in a morning's average browsing.

      (emphasis mine)

      Virtual memory has no real bearing on the quantity of physical ram occupied by an application. Virtual memory is a large, expandable, virtually contiguous slice of memory provided by your OS's memory manager. What you're looking for is resident memory. My current FF3.5 session is 'using' 973 MB virtual memory but in reality only 163 MB physical (resident).

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    6. Re:NoScript and Adblock by LordLimecat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What plugins are you using? What addons? Those affect it, you know.

  8. What's the video codec ? by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    are they supporting theora (like firefox) or just h.264 ? both would be great, of course.

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  9. AdSweep != AdBlock+ by rshol · · Score: 4, Informative

    Downloaded the latest Chrome Beta (3.0.195.4), installed AdSweep, failed to be impressed. AdSweep loads ads the first time you visit a page in a session then erases them, highly annoying. The biggest problem I had was that I failed to notice any speed difference between Chrome and Firefox 3.5.2 on the sites I visit. If anything my non-scientific observation was that with AdSweep loaded, Chrome was significantly slower than Firefox.

  10. For the 1000000 time use Srware IRON for adblock by blahbooboo · · Score: 2, Informative

    When will google learn that plugins, especially something like adblock, is the killer feature they need to attract the "willing to switch" audience, a lot of whom are using firefox right now. I personally love Chrome for its speed and stability, used it for a week or so, but then switched right back to Firefox because I just didn't realise how it is to do many things in Firefox with extensions such as adblock, no script, autopager, del.icio.us integration etc.

    Oh here we go again! :)

    SRWare Iron is the same browser as Google Chrome except it has all the privacy concerns removed.

    IT ALSO HAS ADBLOCK SUPPORT.

    SRWare Iron - http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php ADBLOCKER SUPPORT: "11.10.2008: Adblocker integrated in Iron

    The wish of many users comes true: We integrated an Adblocker in Iron! With a filterlist so nearly all online-advertising can be blocked. A working list can bedownloaded here and just has to be copied to the Iron folder (e.g: C:\Program Files\SRWare Iron\). Note: You must first get the latest version of Iron you can find under "Downloads". So Iron is the first Chromium based webbrowser worldwide which has an adblocker included."

    Here is the link to download the latest adblock.ini file http://www.srware.net/downloads/adblock.ini

  11. Use SRWare Iron for AdBlock by bunratty · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you want Adblock, I think I heard somewhere that SRWare Iron supports it.

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  12. I am willing to accept unobstrusice ads by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I hate the flashing banners, pop ups, pop unders, and distracting flash animations etc as much as anyone. But I do not mind the content providers making a little money selling my eye ball time, if the ads are not distracting and if the ad load is not too much.

    In the non-cyber world, we all accept ads in the magazines and newspapers, realizing the subsidy they provide to the mags and papers. Same way here.

    I wish there is a way to set my browser agent to tell the websites something like:

    Will accept text ads.

    Will reject all animations gif, flash or javascript.

    Will allow 20% of screen real estate to ads.

    Content load time not less than 0.33 times ad load time.

    Currently looking for ads with keywords : digital camera, DVD cases/sleeves, air tickets to India

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    1. Re:I am willing to accept unobstrusice ads by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I'd like to set something like that in my browser, not just for my own ad-blocking, but I almost want to notify the websites: I am blocking your ads because they're big, slow-loading flash ads. Give me static images or text and I won't block them.

      Or what I almost, not really but *almost* want to be able to do is do it on a per-site basis. To be able to send the message to one website, "I'll accept animated GIFs because your site is awesome, but I won't load Flash files for any reason," and tell another website, "Meh, you kind of rot but I just happened across your site by accident. No ad revenue for you." Of course, it would require a lot of work to set that up, even if I had the opportunity to do it.

      And yes, I suppose I could send website emails, but I'd just be one nutjob sending an email, and I wouldn't think it'd do much. What I mean is, it'd be nice if we could all register our frustration in a simple, quick way that would be quantifiable to webmasters, maybe it would improve the situation. Like if someone could look at a set of numbers and say, "Look, if we use Flash, then 40% of our visitors will just block all of our ads, but if we use static images that only take up 14% of the display area, then only 20% will block those images," then maybe websites would actually be less annoying about ads.

      Sorry if I'm just pushing us off-topic.

    2. Re:I am willing to accept unobstrusice ads by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Informative

      Give me static images or text and I won't block them.

      Adding @@|$image to your Adblock rules will allow image ads through on all sites. For specific sites, enter a URL before the $.

  13. Re:Have they fixed the tabs yet? by cparker15 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Different != Wrong

    In my opinion, it makes more sense for the address bar to be part of the tab, because the address of the page has a 1:1 relationship with the page you're viewing.

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  14. Chrome reaches 100 on Acid, Great Sunspider score by CodeShark · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having passed all of the different Acid Tests with a perfect score on the latest JavaScript oriented Acid test.

    My thumbnail look at Sunspider scores shows about a 20% overall speedup over the latest Firefox beta, but Firefox wins in enough of the individual tests that I expect BOTH to improve quite a bit, that is if the fastest times on each are used, even Chrome's time would be 20% better.

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  15. Except the difference between print vs online ads by TravisO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is that you don't get flashing / talking / music / girls in bikinis / speeding gophers / outright lies in your newspaper or magazine.

    Imho online advertising did this to themselves, they were as annoying and eye catching as possible (and I mean that in the worst possible way) that people learned to HATE online advertising. I don't mind Google text ads and such, or even banners, but the flashing, animation and sound is the one spoiled apple that ruins the whole barrel.

  16. Re:I want a Mac beta of that by Goaway · · Score: 3, Informative