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Accused Killer Asks For Online Media Users' IDs
SpaceGhost writes "According to the Houston Chronicle, the attorney for a Texas man charged in the death of a four-year-old 'has asked several local media outlets to provide the names of readers and listeners who commented about his client online,' stating that his client 'was struck by the conclusions people drew about his client and the specificity of some comments that made it appear they came from people with personal knowledge of the case.' Media outlets who have been subpoenaed include The Houston Chronicle, the Conroe Courier, KHOU (Houston area Channel 11, CBS affiliate) and KTRK (Houston area Channel 13, ABC affiliate)."
That stupid skank whore in New York got a court to force Google to give up the ID of someone who hurt her feelings and now everyone will use that precedent to do the same.
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"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
Most of the comments in an article about a man who killed a four-year-old on local news websites would most likely be along the lines of "OMG THIS SICK FUCK DOESN'T EVEN DESERVE A TRIAL! JUST SHOOT HIM!"... ... At least that's the trend I notice on local news sites in my area.
Some examples would be nice, because we can't possibly make a call on the validity of the claim without an example of an applicable comment. Of course, the idea that 300 of the comments are really useful is a dumb one...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I'm pretty sure this is the first time people on the internet have ever been accused of disseminating overly-substantial and accurate information.
But I wonder why this guy did not subpoena the names of any youtube commenters? :/
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how many people would have ersonal knowledge of the case? probably no where near 300 so they're implying that a smaller number of people went out of their way to voice their opinion about the guy. It seems however, that they are on a fishing expedition with suspicions but no evidence at least indicated by TFA.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
FINALLY! A way to return civility to the Interwebs!
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THIS.... IS... TEXAS!!!!
He's trying to not be banged on the table.
The Navy Motto "IF it ain't broke Fix It" "A day is wasted if you don't learn something new"
Sounds like an attempt to intimidate witnesses.
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I was in 86-97. unless you were in before the navy adopted the air force maint system and then doubled the frequency then you would not remember. In what business do you know where regular maint requires you to tear apart a running engine (After shutting it down) to make sure it is still operating properly.
The Navy Motto "IF it ain't broke Fix It" "A day is wasted if you don't learn something new"
I'm Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club. We were doing shore bomb back in '72 during the Eastertide Offensive. Back then, we didn't have time to try fixing things that weren't broke. I remember, once, the but-plate on our 5"/54 broke, and a machinists mate made a new one out of a bearing blank and saved us from having to go all the way to Sasebo and back for a new one. In one WestPac, we not only wore out the barrel of our gun, we used up half the service life of its replacement.
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It's the attorneys job to follow every possible defense. It might get the defendant proven innocent. If he dosn't, it'll be grounds for an appeal based on incompenant defense.
Seriously, why is there any argument against all the facts being available for a trial? If there is nothing to help him, it'll just ensure his conviction sticks.
I knew you'd slip up sometime!
In what business do you know where regular maint requires you to tear apart a running engine (After shutting it down) to make sure it is still operating properly.
Pretty sure airlines have mandated rebuilds every so many hours of flight time. Much better to find out that your turbine blades are damaged in the workshop than halfway across the Atlantic.
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This lends a lot of weight to the hyperbole of "one millions shots fired for every man killed in Vietnam."
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In what business do you know where regular maint requires you to tear apart a running engine (After shutting it down) to make sure it is still operating properly.
EVERY engine has recommended service intervals, and the recommended service involves parts inspection at minimum, and usually mandatory replacements. Congratulations, you know nothing about... physics? Valves every so many thousand miles, bearings every so many other, timing belts, water pumps... These are all commonly inspected and replaced if necessary. You don't do it with the engine running.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
... An unbiased jury pool should be of paramount importance in a trial like this. After all, the accused is being called to trial in the state that executes more prisoners than the rest of the country combined.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Granted, he has a high bar to climb, but if he can convince a judge someone out there knows something that could be used for the defense, he should win his subpeona and be able to bring that evidence into his trial.
It's one of the fundamental rights in America to be able to present any real evidence that can exonerate you.
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Sounds like he got a court to grant some kind of discovery process for this, but I wonder how far it will go? OK, so he can ask for the information that was collected by the "primary" source - some web logs, probably. This gives you at best an IP address unless there is a specific, confirmed identity required to log in.
With an IP address he is going to need another round of subpoenas to get the identity from the ISP. Likely as not, unless the ISP is very, very friendly towards criminals he will have to sue them to get this information. That is pretty much the normal course for non-law enforcement folks. Is it worth that? And, even after filing suit, would a judge force the ISP to open their books?
Naa, probably not.
Let's assume an accomplice was mouthing off in some online forum. Someone that knows the person looking for this information is innocent and knows who committed the crime. Well, given things to day they are going to be protected by the courts, by the prosecutor, by the media companies and by their ISP. The accused doesn't stand a chance.
Not as much as you think. For a 5"/54 naval rifle, the service live of a barrel was about 1500 rounds. Of course, the average round weighed over 50 pounds, and that was just the shell because the shell and powder were inserted separately.
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Have you never driven a 70's era Volvo?
Why can't we go back to using jumpers to configure slot adapter cards? Why? I say!
Have you never driven a 70's era Volvo?
Nope. The only ones I'd be interested in, I wouldn't fit in well. I drive a 1982 MBZ 300SD W126. They are now cheap.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
1982 MBZ= Classic Pimpin'. I loved the grille and body shape of those. I drove my 1971 144S for 250K+ miles and never had anything done but the brakes and oil changes (2 of them). Not that I'm proud of that. If I'd taken care of it, it'd probably gone a million. (yeah, you're right!)They can make a maintenance free battery, why not a damn motor?
Why can't we go back to using jumpers to configure slot adapter cards? Why? I say!