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AMD's DX11 Radeons Can Drive Six 30 Displays

J. Dzhugashvili writes "Whereas most current graphics cards can only drive a pair of displays, AMD has put some special sauce in its next-generation DirectX 11 GPUs to enable support for a whopping six monitors. There's no catch about supported resolutions, either. At an event yesterday, AMD demonstrated a single next-gen Radeon driving six 30" Dell monitors, each with a resolution of 2560x1600, hooked up via DisplayPort. Total resolution: 7680x3200 (or 24.6 megapixels). AMD's drivers present this setup as a single monitor to Windows, so in theory, games don't need to be updated to support it. AMD showed off Dead Space, Left 4 Dead, World of Warcraft, and DiRT 2 running at playable frame rates on the six displays."

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  1. gunna be great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can't wait to build a new computer in 2 years when prices go down and my computer becomes obsolete.

    PC gaming rocks.

    1. Re:gunna be great by xOneca · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will be a driver available for Linux?

    2. Re:gunna be great by CarpetShark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Affordable, graphics on six 30-inch monitors, or playable framerates. Choose 2.

    3. Re:gunna be great by Draek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Can't wait to build a new computer in 2 years when prices go down and my computer becomes obsolete.

      Such is the life of graphics whores.

      Meanwhile, the rest of us are happy to play with our HD4350s and GF 6200s, and upgrading only once every five years or so, to the next bargain-bin card, whose R&D was paid by all of you :)

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    4. Re:gunna be great by ILuvRamen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't get too jumpy about this. Think about it logically. What's the point in having 6 if it acts like one in Windows? You can't fullscreen an ap like a TV Tuner viewer or media player or game on just one monitor. Just get like an 80 inch LCD for cheaper and then you can actually play a game, which you really can't do with plastic frame gaps between each of the 6 monitors. I can't stand having my crosshair halved across two displays whose LCDs are like 4 inches apart and you get that issue with 2,4,and 6 displays. It'd really be 9 or 1 as your only real options.

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    5. Re:gunna be great by schmiddy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was briefly intrigued, until I looked around for these mythical "borderless monitors". I merely found a bunch of marketing drivel. Quoting:

      The firm unwrapped the range in Berlin yesterday, but - as journalists debated the benefits of a TV able to display images right to the very edge of the device - Register Hardware discovered that LGâ(TM)s sets don't do what the name suggests. 'Borderless' is more about freedom, according to LG, because the range apparently gives owners the freedom to, say, transfer images over Bluetooth.

      link. So, not borderless at all. Shame, this would actually be a cool feature.

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  2. Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by sznupi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most games in multimon scenarios really need odd number of displays; 5 is better than 6 in this case (and you just know some people will say this is unusable, because of monitor bezel in the center)

    BTW...goodbye Matrox, last stronghold just went away.

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    1. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wrong direction. You need NINE displays.

      Actually, seriously, it seems like it would be more useful to have a standard 30" display centered in your FOV, and a projected 90" display surrounding it at lower resolution. You still get the peripheral cues, but you're not wasting resolution (and expense) on parts of the display where you can't perceive it. The math and logic is fairly simple, but I've never heard of a card that supports it. (There were some esoteric simulators many years ago that did this, but it never caught on in the wider market.)

    2. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think you know what bezel means.

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    3. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most games in multimon scenarios really need odd number of displays; 5 is better than 6 in this case (and you just know some people will say this is unusable, because of monitor bezel in the center)

      Somehow I doubt it supports exactly 6 monitors.

      Though on the other hand I went to buy a bomb shelter from this vet with one arm, and he told me that it'd withstand a 40 megaton blast... no more... no less.

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    4. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...fun in having six 1080p projectors lighting up

      How about 6 projectors pointing in different directions running Milk Drop 2 visualizations of Pink Floyd.

    5. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      When your computer is possessed by Satan, you point at the screen and say:
      "Look at that bezel bub!"

    6. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 4, Funny

      ....and 6 shall be the monitors of thine fragging... no more, no less.

    7. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I do, but apparently I was the one who didn't know what bezel means. Never mind.

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    8. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      NetHack ASCII gaming @ 7680x3200. Whohoo!

    9. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's the setting in which a gemstone is held, and presumably the meaning has been extended to refer to the plastic case around the edge of the monitor screen in this context.

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    10. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by More_Cowbell · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have mod points, but there is no mod for horrible puns... :P

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    11. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by cfa22 · · Score: 3, Funny

      When your computer is possessed by Satan, you point at the screen and say: "Look at that bezel bub!"

      and when he gives away your private key you've got a "loose-cypher".

    12. Re:Merketing trumps reason again... ;) by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Somehow I doubt it supports exactly 6 monitors.

      True, but it's possible that it doesn't support non-rectangular configurations (especially since it presents everything as one big virtual monitor to Windows).

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  3. How many slots does the card take up? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll bet I can't get more than two of them into my machine, which means I'm still stuck with a maximum of 12 monitors. Dammit.

    1. Re:How many slots does the card take up? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      I didn't snap a picture of it, but I checked the back of the PC accomplishing this feat, and all six of the DisplayPort connections were plugged into a single expansion slot.

      But you missed the 220V 3 phase power connector and the freon pipes for cooling.

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    2. Re:How many slots does the card take up? by maino82 · · Score: 4, Informative

      3-phase 220V (or 240V, depending on if you're looking at the nameplate on the equipment or the voltage coming out of the plug) is not-so-commonly used in the US on commercial buildings in residential neighborhoods that are served by 240V transformers where the utility company is too lazy to upgrade their equipment and give you a proper voltage for a commercial building. It's called a high leg delta system where you have a neutral coming off of the mid-point of one of the transformer windings. This creates 120V for 2 of the phases to neutral, 208V for the third phase to neutral (this is the "high leg" part), 240V single phase when you connect line to line and 240V three phase when you connect line to line to line.

      Electricity is fun!

    3. Re:How many slots does the card take up? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's just... sad, really.

      On the brighter side, I suppose you could now drive four DIVEs from a single PC.

    4. Re:How many slots does the card take up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      LOL

    5. Re:How many slots does the card take up? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The article sucks, that's what. Each card got a 8kx8k maximum resolution, so in theory you could have four such cards with 268 MP total. It's actually better spelled out in the AMD press release...

      2. 268 megapixels is supported only with low refresh rates on future generation 8K x 8K display technology. For 3D gaming using current generation monitors and 60Hz refresh rates, 98.4 megapixels can be achieved.

      Note that the last one is four times the MP count of this setup, so you should be able to drive a 5120×3200x6 = 98.4 MP display. I wouldn't exactly expect 3D performance at 15360x6400 effective resolution though...

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    6. Re:How many slots does the card take up? by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nah. The power consumption would be high, but not that high. You might even be able to get it all on one circuit without blowing a fuse.

      According to the specs, a 30" Dell LCD consumes somewhere between 163 and 250W.

      This number is surprisingly high, considering a 27" CRT TV only uses approx. 100W, although the same guy measured a 30" Dell LCD to consume approx. 90W, which sounds much more believable. If your LCD is consuming 250W, it's either going to be blindingly bright, or throwing off a serious amount of heat.

      On the other hand, Dell also manufacture an "energy efficient" line of monitors, the largest of which is 24", and consumes approx. 23W while in use, which is pretty impressive. You could easily run 12 of these off of a single domestic supply, even on one of North America's puny 120V circuits. In fact, 12 of Dell's 24" 'Green' displays would consume less power than a single 30" display if the spec sheet is to be believed.

      Now, that being said, you also certainly wouldn't need a 220V 3-phase connector to run this many 30" displays. You'd likely be able to do it off of a single domestic circuit (barely). Most newer North American 120V outlets support a maximum load of 15A, or 1800W. If we can safely assume that the monitors will consume 100W each, and the PC stays under 600W, you'd just be able to squeak by (600 + 12*100 = 1800W)

      On the other hand, if you live in one of the civilized nations that use 220-240V as their domestic supply, you'd be able to do this without risking blowing a fuse (oddly enough, fuse boxes are still quite common in certain parts of the world). A European 16A CEEForm plug should be able to safely deliver 16A * 240V = 3840W, which would hypothetically be enough to power 24 monitors, and a PC to drive them. Domestic Schuko, BS1363, and BS546 outlets (most of Europe, the UK, and the commonwealth countries) would also be able to handle this sort of load without a problem, provided that they were wired correctly.

      Heat distribution wouldn't be a problem, considering that 12 30" monitors would occupy approximately 32 square feet. Passive cooling should be adequate, provided that you're not cramming all this gear into an unventilated closet.

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  4. Special Sauce for a Whopper? by BlindSpot · · Score: 5, Funny

    AMD has put some special sauce in its next-generation DirectX 11 GPUs to enable support for a whopping six monitors.

    Special Sauce for a Whopper, eh? I must have missed the merger announcement between AMD and Burger King.

    1. Re:Special Sauce for a Whopper? by Totenglocke · · Score: 2, Informative

      You got it wrong - McDonald's has the special sauce on the Big Mac, there's no special sauce on a Whopper. Apparently the person writing the summary doesn't eat much fast food or he'd know to avoid a mixed fast food metaphor like that!

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    2. Re:Special Sauce for a Whopper? by BobMcD · · Score: 3, Funny

      Rodeo Whopper?

  5. E-peen just keeps getting bigger? by ynososiduts · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gaming on 6 screens seems a bit ridiculous. I mean for PC gaming you're at most 5 feet away from your screen, if that. When I first upgraded to a 22" LCD monitor from my 15" I felt a bit overwhelmed. It almost made me nauseous playing games on it at first. I got used to it, but it still takes up most of my field of view at my desk. Anything over 24" just seems to be over the top.

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    1. Re:E-peen just keeps getting bigger? by paazin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or you could just add this to a trading machine - fire up six screens to keep your tickers and everything in sight. Three or more monitors is an absolute boon for productivity (though somewhere around 4-6 I'd imagine the marginal benefit starts declining)

    2. Re:E-peen just keeps getting bigger? by silanea · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Think flight simulators. 6 displays are enough to give you a decent "cockpit".

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  6. Re:damn! by Hinhule · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Traders.

  7. Anti-fud by Petersko · · Score: 3, Informative

    "i hope this isn't just fud. "

    If fud is fear, uncertainty, and doubt, then this is anti-fud.

    Finally - a good basis for this: http://ergotron.com/Products/tabid/65/PRDID/196/language/en-CA/default.aspx

  8. More details and shots of AMD Eyefinity here by MojoKid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Eyefinity is enabled through a combination of hardware and software being developed by AMD. On the hardware front, AMD's upcoming Radeons will sport between 3 and 6 display outputs of various types, DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI, etc. And those outputs will be managed by software currently dubbed SLS, or Single Large Surface. Using the SLS tool, users are able to configure a group of monitors to work with Eyefinity and essentially act as a single, large display.

    http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Eyefinity-MultiDisplay-Technology-In-Action/

    7680 x 3200 - that ought to increase your field of view just a tad!

  9. Reminds me of this cool setup by Acer500 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This guy already had this set up for a while, it's pretty cool (now 12 screens):

    http://www.stefandidak.com/office/

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    1. Re:Reminds me of this cool setup by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The significant difference between the Radeon multi-mon setup and what that guy did is that the Radeon presents all the displays as a single display to Windows. You don't have to arrange the monitor icons in the Settings tab of the Display Properties, they all show up as one big monitor. This can be significant sometimes. For instance, on a dual-monitor setup I've seen video players act strangely when split down the middle (the video only played on the left display until the window was moved so the entire video was on the right monitor, and then it appeared).

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  10. 6 screens or by markringen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    6 screens or anti-alias the crap out of it :D in the near future an entire game could be running purely and alone off the GPU. i personally don't agree with John Carmack, i think it would eventually be smarter to not push anything trough the CPU and keep it purely all on the GPU and it's ram (in the future, not right now). but GPU ram does need to become upgradeable! as 2GB of video ram isn't going to cut it anymore (in 2 years).

    1. Re:6 screens or by iamhassi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "GPU ram does need to become upgradeable! as 2GB of video ram isn't going to cut it anymore (in 2 years)."

      considering how fast video card prices drop it'd probably be cheaper just to buy a new, much faster card then to upgrade the memory.

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  11. Re:30" so? by Neil+Hodges · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think they're implying, correctly, that larger displays generally have higher screen resolutions than smaller ones.

  12. Peripheral vision by argent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two words: Peripheral Vision.

    1. Re:Peripheral vision by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Two words: Peripheral Vision.

      If I wanted the peripherals in my vision, I'd put the printers in front of the monitor!

    2. Re:Peripheral vision by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Informative

      3 words for you: 103 inch LCD.

      Yay for fist size pixels. Way to go Panasonic. Useless on a PC.
      Works fine as a TV though I suppose.

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  13. Re:damn! by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Funny

    damn!!! i hope this isn't just fud.

    I don't think that word means what you think it does . . .

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  14. Thats cool! by ohsmeguk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But will there be decent Linux drivers, or will they be a second thought as usual?

    1. Re:Thats cool! by hansamurai · · Score: 3, Informative

      For one, it's ATI, they're awful with Linux drivers. Secondly, seems like anything is possible in xorg.conf, so it's probably possible.

    2. Re:Thats cool! by RotateLeftByte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      With xrandr, xorg.conf is largely redundant.

      I can attach an extra monitor to my ATI GPU laptop running Fedora 11 and I don't have to fiddle with xorg.conf at all. The only thing I have to do is setup where I want the laptop screen to appear in relation to the larger LCD display.

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    3. Re:Thats cool! by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Informative

      ATI's fglrx driver is awful. I'm hearing very good things about the open source drivers, though. They're moving very quickly forward, and it's proper open-source. If you don't mind compiling a bit, you can get Quake 3 and more (up to OpenGL 1.4 I believe) running on the latest 4xxx Radeons. Next steps from what I hear are GLSL and Gallium3D support, now that KMS is merged into the kernel and mesa is supporting the Radeon DRI.

      Go check over at Phoronix if you're curious. The ATI employed open-source driver developers post and discuss things pretty much daily.

    4. Re:Thats cool! by Randle_Revar · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, they are great with Linux drivers. 2.6.32 will have r600/r700 KMS (including dri2, ttm/gem) and Mesa 7.6 (due very soon) has r600/r700 3D good enough for compiz. Mesa 7.7 will have the Gallium3D r600g driver (not sure what state it will be in).

      AMD/ATI has not said anything about a new arch for r800, so it is probably very similar to r600/r700 (r300/r400/r500 was another series of three that were very close) and adding it to the r600 driver shouldn't take too long/

  15. Re:damn! by ArhcAngel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Correct, and traders will hate this. We tried the Matrox TripleHead2Go a couple of years ago and it stretched the screen across...wait for it...THREE monitors. I never heard so much bitching about how hitting the maximize button made an app take up all three screens. Fortunately Matrox had anticipated this and provided a setting in the drivers to provide the desired functionality. I hope AMD is as insightful.

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  16. Re:damn! by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think that word means what you think it does . . .

    The post uses irrelevant concepts like the physical size of display, as if that's relevant to a graphics card. GP was just following the post's lead.

  17. Was Anti Aliasing and V-sync off? by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It sounds impressive but it also sounds like a stunt more than reality.

  18. Re:damn! by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Six used 19" LCDs for 20$ each?

    I'm still using a single 17" LCD, you insensitive clod!

    (cue follow-up reply with "I'm still using a 14" CRT you insensitive clod")

  19. ATI's reply by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    nVidia: Our new DirectX 11 GPUs are able to support six monitors simultaneously.
    ATI: Well, the Jerk Store called, and they're running out of you.

    1. Re:ATI's reply by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You just know that somebody, somewhere, in a board meeting is saying "Fuck it, we're going to 9 monitors, with an aloe bezel"

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  20. Why have LCD resolutions stalled out? by Omnifarious · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want my 4000x2400 21" display. I want to be able to have tiny letters in high quality anti-aliased fonts and have it look really good. Why hasn't it happened?

    1. Re:Why have LCD resolutions stalled out? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because nobody else wants that. It's expensive to make higher resolution screens.

    2. Re:Why have LCD resolutions stalled out? by hyperion2010 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It hasnt happened because the smaller you make the pixels the worse your yield is. If you tried to make a 21" monitor with pixels the size of the ones on my n800 it wouldn't be profitable, you would have to junk too many because of bad/dead pixels. The quality control required for stuff like that this just doesn't make economic sense.

  21. Re:damn! by geekboy642 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pfft. 14 inches? I'm using lynx on a 5" green-screen. It was good enough for my grand-dad, it's good enough for me.

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  22. What about power? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this thing come with its own small nuclear power plant and liquid nitrogen cooling system?

  23. Re:Meh by mikael_j · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What on earth would six simultaneous displays on Windows be useful for in the real world?

    There are plenty of people who find multiple monitors very useful. Hell, I'm currently only using one 1920x1200 24" monitor and I need to use virtual desktops quite heavily to feel comfortable with this setup. An ideal setup for me would have at least two more monitors.

    I've also noticed something (not directed at you) interesting in that a lot of Windows users seem incapable of understanding why one would want lots of non-maximized windows, or any non-maximized windows for that matter, it's like a whole lot of them (including a lot of sysadmins, developers and the like) view the windows as a stack, or to use the desktop metaphor, it's like covering your entire desk a stack of large sheets of paper. Now, from this perspective a six och nine monitor setup seems completely useless, but as someone who almost never runs apps maximized (except for Maya, Photoshop, Sketchbook Pro and similar apps) I like being able to see all windows as once (another pet peeve, what's with windows users and avoiding multitasking as much as possible, you're not running Windows 98 anymore, newer versions of Windows are actually capable of running more than one app at a time without exploding).

    /Mikael

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  24. Re:damn! by click2005 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The new ATI card also lets you create groups of monitors in any combination you need. 6 monitors could be used as a 3x1, 1x2 and a single.

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  25. Re:damn! by rvw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pfft. 14 inches? I'm using lynx on a 5" green-screen. It was good enough for my grand-dad, it's good enough for me.

    5 whole inches? Man, I'm piping this to a punch card printer. After years of listening to the hammering I can "read" it like morse code. It just sounds like music to me. A page like this takes up to four hours, but it's worth it, I can assure you.

  26. Frameless monitors by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How hard would it be to make frameless or very-minimally-framed monitors designed for stacking together like this? Or at least a set of monitors with the bulk of the framing only on particular edges?

    1. Re:Frameless monitors by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are a few already designed like that (by LG I think?)

      And the full article mentions that they might make deals with manufacturers who want to produce Bevel-less monitors.

    2. Re:Frameless monitors by morethanapapercert · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are what are known as open frame monitors by a wide variety of manufacturers. These usually come with very large and clunky metal brackets as they are intended for use by system integrators and kiosks. On most the bracket is removable, leaving you with what is known as a raw panel or raw module. Or you can also get raw panels yourself, but there are a couple of caveats: 1) Most I found are more expensive than simply buying a regular monitor at your local retailer and throwing the bezel away. (see 2) 2) These are usually models intended for mobile or rough duty use. (cars, kiosks etc) so they'll have heavier Plexiglas on them, be lower resolution/refresh/contrast versions and so on. 3) All LCD monitors are framed by a metal channel edging that acts as a clamp to hold the various layers together. In all the newer monitors I have seen disassembled, the metal channelling is pretty close to the same width as the plastic bezel that covers it. Removing it won't gain you much, unless you are prepared to replace the channelling on the connecting sides with something that clamps just as firmly but with less depth. (say 3mmx5mm H channel vs 5mmx5mm C channel) 4) if you do replace the channelling, that will leave you a dead zone. Panels are designed with the channel in mind, so there is a roughly 5mm zone that isn't "addressed" by the controller all the way around. I suppose a really hard core DIY type could file/sand down this dead area, but frankly I don't know what effect this would have on the rest of the panel and I wouldn't want to kill several panels finding out. (Would the liquid crystal goo leak?) I've been messing around with some designs for combining several monitors myself. (one 32" and two 19" monitors in portrait mode on the wings) The best I could come up with on my back of the envelope sketches was to replace the channel on the connecting edges with H profile channel acrylic channel to minimize the gap and the visual impact of the channelling.

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  27. print preview by epine · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perfect. 98 MP is equivalent to 68 square inches at 1200 DPI. Finally, a pixel precise page preview for a 7.5"x9" content region. But I think you'd want this display oriented in portrait mode.

  28. Re:damn! by Vectronic · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I really hate having to have one hand on the "stick", and the other trying to set "flight controls" and hit the keys to "look around" when I'm "landing."

    Best code-words for masturbation to porn ever.

  29. 6 full HS projectors.. hmm.. nice by luvirini · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the problem of gaps between screens: Just get a big enough room, 6 full HD projectors and place them and the screens properly and you will not have to worry about all those gaps between screens.. ofcourse that does limit you to 5760*2160 resolution, but it is a small price to pay compared to the cost of the 6 HD projectors..

    A happy user of only one full HD projector for games. Though the reolution is less, the image size helps immersion tremendously.

  30. Re:MOD PARENT UP by CthulhuDreamer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    30" is where the pixel count increases, and the pixel size shrinks a bit. It's those new 27" screens that really rip people off.

    20" 1600x1200
    20" 1680x1050
    22" 1680x1050
    24" 1920x1200
    27" 1920x1200
    30" 2560x1600

    (I've started seeing 1366x768 and 1280x720 LCD screens being pushed as desktop monitors, so I think we're actually going backwards.)

  31. Re:damn! by bencoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All programmers know the correct way is to have the punctuation outside of the quote marks, otherwise you're modifying the string literal that the quote marks enclose. And I don't care whether the rules say it's meant to be like that or not, if I'm quoting a piece of text which didn't have that punctuation in it then it feels dirty to move the punctuation inside the quotes.

  32. Re:damn! by mR.bRiGhTsId3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, here is the question. If you have 3 screens, why on earth are you maximizing?! Seriously, because I dream of nothing more than to have to turn my head a full 90 degrees in order to read a full line of text.

  33. Re:damn! by Ant+P. · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only on Slashdot would you get a pissing contest to see who has the fewest inches... /me pulls out a six-inch, 800x480 eeePC

  34. EXACTLY! If anything LCDs are going backwards by NaCh0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The tube monitor I had in the late 90s ran at 1600x1200. Now over 10 years later my 24" LCD is a paltry 1920x1200. It pisses me off that vertical resolution hasn't increased. There is a reason newspapers and now web pages put text into narrow columns -- readability. My eyes work fine so I don't give a crap that fonts look smaller as dots per inch increase.

    Now vendors are cheaping out further on 24" LCDs by using 1920x1080 panels as the default offering. A total lack of progress.

    Don't even get me started that most netbooks are using something around a 800x600 (or 576) resolution screen. Are we returning to the windows 3.0 days? I bought a 11.6" gateway netbook primarily to get the whatever by 768 display. (if only they had a matte version in stores) Again small font for more vertical lines is a trade-off I'll take every time.

    I'll save my rant of GNOME's special-ed style of font and icon size (see the 150% line height on the gnome website as the first mistake) for another day.

  35. Re:damn! by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    becasue he want's it maximized on one screen.

    I often do this with 2 screen. what I am working on is maximized, and in my 'secondary' screen there are several apps running that I monitor.

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  36. Re:Home Jumbotron, here we come! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like any current mid to high end home theater projector, but with several inch wide lines running through the picture.

  37. Re:damn! by jaxtherat · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope you're not browsing at -1...

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  38. Re:damn! by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, here is the question. If you have 3 screens, why on earth are you maximizing?! Seriously, because I dream of nothing more than to have to turn my head a full 90 degrees in order to read a full line of text.

    Because Windows users always maximize their apps. Nobody knows why.

    I never understood either why people using my computer (24" @ 1920x1600) always feel the need to maximize every single window which I almost never do except for a few graphical apps like digiKam or BibblePro.

    I'm sure they'd do the same across 3 or 6 screens. Probably in Windows the maximize button stops working if you don't use it often enough.

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  39. Oblig by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the designers of X-Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same principles -- but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that.

            - Marus J. Ranum, Digital Equipment Corporation

    (Stolen from: http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/disaster.html)

    *Ducks and runs*

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  40. Re:damn! by lysergic.acid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe it's because they want to make better use of their screen real estate? Why do people prefer larger computer monitors and TVs? Because you see can see more and see better. I mean, do you also complain that your TV is maximized instead of displaying bits and pieces of other channels next to the program you're currently watching?

    Most operating systems today are capable of multitasking, but most users are not. So if you're only using a single application, and you bought a 24" monitor, then why not use that space? If you're watching a movie, you can see a bigger picture. If you're surfing the web, typing a paper, writing code, or working on a spread sheet, you can see more content at once and scroll less.

    Most people don't go out and buy a 24" monitor so that they can see more of their desktop background. The better question might be, why not maximize the application you're currently using? Most OSes have a windows manager or task switcher that allows quick and easy switching between programs. Windows even has a desktop shortcut in the quick launch bar for easy access to the desktop. There's really no advantage to not having your windows maximized and fully utilizing your screen real estate. It's also easier to focus on your work when there's nothing else cluttering the screen.

    Many programs, such as IDEs or graphics applications like Photoshop or Illustrator, have a Workspace manager. That's because the developers realize that your screen setup and window layout are vital to user productivity and efficiency. With complex applications as these, you often have tons of widgets, toolbars, info panels, etc. that can take up significant display area. So it makes sense to use your screen real estate as efficiently as possible. It doesn't make sense to clutter your monitor with windows that have nothing to do with your current workflow.

    On a 1280x1024 display, I usually don't have space to display all the tool panels and windows I need to work efficiently. On my current 1920x1600 display, I have just enough when the Application is maximized. Sure, I can get by on less screen area. But that usually means constantly opening & collapsing tool panels and a lot of scrolling back and forth. A bigger workspace also means I see my drawings in more detail; I can see more code at a time; and I can more easily & accurately navigate long web pages. Additionally, working with an application maximized allows you to better memorize the location of various panels and toolbars since they're always in the same position. Just as switching between different model keyboards leads to slower typing and more typos, a non-maximized window that's a different size and in a different position every time is similarly less efficient.

  41. Re:damn! by jon3k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why run three monitors with ultramon when you can run three independent PCs with three independent monitors using synergy? I've got the same (or more) screen real estate and 3x the horsepower.

  42. Re:6 displays without OpenGL or any 3D, eh? thanks by Splab · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The card does OpenGL just fine, in this case it's the user being overly paranoid.