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Canonical Halts Ubuntu CD Free-for-all

Barence writes to tell us that Canonical plans on limiting the number of "free Ubuntu CDs" that people can mooch from the company. The growing popularity of Ubuntu has seen a dramatic increase in the number of CDs being shipped via the free "ShipIt" scheme. The only people able to take advantage of this program now will be the usual community teams, contributors, and first-time Ubuntu users. "'While these CDs are often referred to as 'free CDs,' they are of course not free of cost to Canonical. We want to continue this programme, but Ubuntu’s growth means that some changes are necessary. Therefore we are adjusting how we handle CD requests to try to find the right balance between availability of CDs and the continued viability of the ShipIt program,' [Canonical's chief operating officer Jane Silber] adds. Extra CD copies of Ubuntu will still be available for purchase through the Canonical store, although they need to be bought in bulk. Five copies of the open-source operating system will cost £5 exc VAT and shipping."

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  1. Well just download the ISO. by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I never got any of the free CDs because I never wanted to wait. I guess it was handy for people that couldn't burn ISOs like most windows users untill they installed an ISO burning program.

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    1. Re:Well just download the ISO. by sopssa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I never knew they actually shipped those for free and many more probably didn't know either. They're gonna love this slashdot story!

    2. Re:Well just download the ISO. by PalmKiller · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can't see a regular user needing just a personal copy waiting. That said, I have gotten a few to hand out at the local users group a few times, had to make a special request since I needed more than 10, but the requests got granted pretty quickly.

    3. Re:Well just download the ISO. by gninnor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am still on dial-up, CD and DVD are pretty much the only way I could do this distro. Same with XP service packs. Spent the past two months to try to get DSL but the apartment's wiring is too old.

    4. Re:Well just download the ISO. by Stupendoussteve · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is about Ubuntu, it's Linux for Humans which often includes morons.

      The free CDs were also great for advocacy. With their sleeves, pictures and artwork they look a lot better to a new or potential user than a shiny just burned CD-R. I have been unable to find the ISO image that actually corresponds to the CD I was shipped in the past, but it could be that I'm not looking hard enough.

    5. Re:Well just download the ISO. by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure. First AOL stops sending me free CD's, now I can't order them from Canonical! My CD burner has been flawless for years... What the hell am I supposed to use for coasters?

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    6. Re:Well just download the ISO. by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then again...most of these people might not like Linux since its not totally moron proof.

      unlike windows?

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    7. Re:Well just download the ISO. by Hel+Toupee · · Score: 4, Funny

      The ISO's don't come with stickers. I need my Ubuntu stickers, dammit!

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    8. Re:Well just download the ISO. by Locutus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      if your apartment manager is on-site, you might make a deal and have the DSL modem and a wireless router installed close to the distribution box if the signal is good enough there. The deal might include sharing some bandwidth with them.

      LoB

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    9. Re:Well just download the ISO. by dAzED1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      or, alternatively, people who lived in rural areas and who didn't have nearby high-speed internet access. It doesn't have to indicate some sort of insufficiently-technical person. Just how...difficult...do you think Ubuntu is to use as a desktop anyway?

      At this point, it's far more useful to people who do events where they teach Ubuntu usage and hand out the free CDs. I've been in a couple groups in the past that would get boxes of the ubuntu cds, and then hand them out at such events.

    10. Re:Well just download the ISO. by denis-The-menace · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are trying to build your own CD chair?

      http://www.geeksugar.com/688643

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    11. Re:Well just download the ISO. by Nerdfest · · Score: 2, Funny

      So that's why they always say "free, as in beer" ...

    12. Re:Well just download the ISO. by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 4, Insightful
      not saavy enough to burn their own CDs

      What a pompous asshole. Some of us don't have a high speed internet connection to download the iso.

    13. Re:Well just download the ISO. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Because handing a screen printed real CD in a full color printed sleeve looks far more professional than some dork giving you a burned one with marker writing on it.

      Honestly, when you introduce a new os to someone, making it look really professional goes a very long way.

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    14. Re:Well just download the ISO. by wisty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      By morons, do you mean "Windows experts with no Linux experience", or "Complete beginners who just want to surf the net"?

      Once the internet works, Ubuntu is fine for complete technophobes. It only gets to be high maintenance why you try to do interesting things.

    15. Re:Well just download the ISO. by 1s44c · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is about Ubuntu, it's Linux for Humans which often includes morons.

      What kind of paradise do you live in which only 'often' includes morons? And where the hell do I apply for a visa?

  2. Probably people abusing the system by jittles · · Score: 5, Informative

    I once got flamed on Slick Deals for asking people to show restraint and common sense after someone posted a deal for a free CD from Project Gutenburg. People were ordering tons of disks as if they were getting some special deal. I don't blame Canonical at all for placing limits.

    1. Re:Probably people abusing the system by Kjella · · Score: 2, Informative

      Probably people that think it's some limited promotion to create buzz, then start charging once the demand coming it. They'd probably be very confused about the whole model. "It's free" "Now, yeah so I'm ordering a million" "No it'll stay free" "???" "It's free software" "But, but..." It's not just bean counters that throw a divide by zero error when they encounter free things.

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    2. Re:Probably people abusing the system by kraemate · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Stopping the shipping of free CDs is a long overdue but unfortunate move.

      CDs were absolutely the only way to obtain a linux distro for me, and canonical's generous free shipping saved me(and countless others in 3rd world countries) by providing the discs.

      However i have seen enough rampant abuse of this, so much so that i would rather see a few thousand people unable to use linux because they cannot obtain CDs than canonical shutting down because of the greedy unscrupulous jerks.

    3. Re:Probably people abusing the system by jgardia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can still pay for the cd...

  3. Ubuntu seems to have hit the big time by Ynot_82 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ubuntu seems to have hit the big time, riding off the Win7 release.
    There's half-a-dozen mainstream news sources that are mentioning Ubuntu in their coverage of Win7, some are even holding it above MS's OS

    Eg.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/26/kellner-linux-hits-user-nerve/

    1. Re:Ubuntu seems to have hit the big time by camperslo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ubuntu seems to have hit the big time, riding off the Win7 release.

      Maybe we can help Ubuntu a bit this week, burning and giving away Ubuntu 9.10 CDs through places like craigslist.

      I haven't figured out the ad text yet, but I think a title along the lines of "free upgrade for Windows users" would get people to read the ad.

      I figured the text could mention the ability to try it before installing, the ability to dual boot, the included memory tester (something that would avoid one of the problems with Win7 installs), the speed boost seen on some machines due to it being leaning and not having the overhead of antivirus software, the great free apps included, the easy of finding adding/removing apps, freedom from registration keys and ads, freedom to copy.... great additional effects/features with a modern GPU... should include something about minimum RAM requirements. Maybe mention that Mac switchers could keep the old PC around to run Windows games, and be safely used for net access through Ubuntu.

      Something simple looking, like a list format might be easily understood?

      A bunch of us working on this could have an impact.

      Ubuntu : The New Efficiency (an MS slogan that fits Ubuntu much better)

    2. Re:Ubuntu seems to have hit the big time by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 3, Informative

      He is referring to Sun Myung Moon who is a self described messiah and the leader of one of the largest cults in the world -- the Unification Church. They are famous for their mass weddings.

      Anyways, Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper.

  4. Just torrent it by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just used the torrents. This way I get a disk in under two hours and shared the bandwidth.

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    1. Re:Just torrent it by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      I just used the torrents. This way I get a disk in under two hours and shared the bandwidth.

      Don't let the RIAA hear about this. They'll sue you from orbit, and let God sort it out.

    2. Re:Just torrent it by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You damn pirates think you get can everything for free, even things that are free to begin with!

    3. Re:Just torrent it by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shows what little you know about software piracy. It's the BSA that sues you for downloading Linux torrents. Well, I suppose those conga drums when you log in could be considered a recorded performance.

      What, the merit-badge guys? I'm not buying it.

  5. 9.10 is really nice by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have it running on my old D610, it's very nice. They have improved the software center, a lot. Much faster and easier to use. Imported all my settings and desktop from 9.04, no problems. Boot up seems about the same to me, but overall it seems faster. The default theme is very nice and the fonts are clear and legible.

    Overall I like it a lot. Good timing for release of 9.10, too. If you're going to change everything, might as well try something else first. What do you have to lose?

    It's reasonable for them to limit disk copies. It's not like someone couldn't make as many of their own copies as they wish.

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    1. Re:9.10 is really nice by gbarules2999 · · Score: 3, Informative

      +1. It really has been a good release; everything works out of the box on my laptop (the sound, webcam, microphone, and wi-fi). If they can keep the quality high for the upcoming LTS release, there will be nothing but good news for the project and its growing popularity.

    2. Re:9.10 is really nice by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It occured to me that it would be fun (and possibly significant) to ship ubuntu with a tool to make new ubuntu CDs. Of course you can do that with the built in CD burning tool but I mean making the process a bit more explicit with a prominent menu option (Make new Ubuntu CD) which asks for the install CD, extracts the ISO, burns a new CD ancd optionally prints the official CD label.

      Its the kind of functionality you won't be seeing in Windows 7 any time soon.

    3. Re:9.10 is really nice by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's a really good idea. I hope someone from Canonical is reading. A SHARE button somewhere that burns a Ubuntu disk.

      Bonus points if it has the ability to burn the same desktop theme and layout. Some when someone says, "Hey, your desktop is really cool." You can click a button and hand it to them, minus your data hopefully.

      You won't see that in Windows 7 any time soon, either.

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    4. Re:9.10 is really nice by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's a really good idea. I hope someone from Canonical is reading. A SHARE button somewhere that burns a Ubuntu disk.

      Bonus points if it has the ability to burn the same desktop theme and layout. Some when someone says, "Hey, your desktop is really cool." You can click a button and hand it to them, minus your data hopefully.

      You won't see that in Windows 7 any time soon, either.

      Agreed. Even cooler, especially considering the clusterfsck that the XP-to-7 "upgrade" process is: be able to put the CD in a drive on a Windows system, and it'll "convert" the system to Ubuntu, with all applications and data still available via WINE.

      Any apps that are known not to run would be flagged prior to clicking the "point of no return" install button.

      And, if it can identify the current OS and set a theme that is similar if not identical to it, then there will be pretty much no retraining required. A great selling point when Microsoft itself is saying "$2,000 per seat"...

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  6. Served it's purpose by Oasiz · · Score: 2, Informative

    The guys must get tons of orders each day and even hoax orders grow exponentially with increased popularity. I still have the old 5.10 discs around that introduced me and my friend to Ubuntu. But now with the increased internet connections and quick downloads speeds you can get it very fast and even use 'in-windows' installers in case you do not have a cd/usb stick to put the installer in.

  7. Re:Oh no. by txwikinger-slashdot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well.. You can come by one of those many Linux Fests, Linux conventions etc. Chances are good that some Ubuntu members will be handing out CDs there, and you will meet a lot of other like minded people and lots of awesome presentations.

  8. Why not start a donation fund for these? by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would think they'd have some success starting a fund people can optionally donate a few bucks to, to help offset shipping and production costs on the free CDs they send out. Then simply tell people that if the fund runs dry, shipping of CDs gets halted until more donations are made.

    I suspect the majority of people requesting the free CD are doing so because they're in a situation where downloading and burning the ISO image is too troublesome (limited bandwidth like some corporations have, or someone using satellite broadband where they have a transfer cap before getting charged per K downloaded, etc.). Asking them to kick a few dollars back into the fund after they install and start using the product doesn't seem like a big deal.

    Obviously, it'd still be a good idea to track addresses and enforce a "one copy per mailing address, per release" rule....

  9. Re:Ubuntu or Debian? by noundi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try Gentoo -- if you have the patience for it. Gentoo offers the, by far, best community with detailed HOWTO's on almost anything. It takes a little reading and practice but once you get the hang of it it'll be worth it.

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  10. Re:Ubuntu or Debian? by AccUser · · Score: 4, Funny

    You should try UnixWare, imo it's a lot better than Fedora. And it's backed by SCO, which is a lot larger and older than Red Hat. :p

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  11. Ubuntu CD's by uneek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would happily buy them from Amazon, if Amazon had up to date Ubuntu CD's. Its especially useful when you need a DVD and don't want to wait

    1. Re:Ubuntu CD's by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why not buy them from Canonical? You get 5 discs for about half the price Amazon is asking for 8.10.

    2. Re:Ubuntu CD's by PeterPlan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because it would be convenient for people who buy stuff from amazon all the time and have an account there. Plus it would mean free publicity if many people buy from there and Ubuntu gets listed as a top seller.

  12. Re:Reasonable by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nah - it just becomes a hackintosh+.

  13. Offer some Value added options by PYRILAMPES · · Score: 2, Funny

    Keep the free cdrom thing, add some flyers for Open Source companies or others who would pay for the advertising.(Windows emulators?) Then Sell an upgraded USB drive that looks like a Penquin for 5$ plus 10 dollars shipping and handling. Offer a support contract accessible from a shortcut on the desktop, and Bing! you have a profit from the loss! No one will want the free cdrom if they could have a penquin USB drive! Bait and Switch!

  14. Make available via outloets like Netflicks? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sent a suggestion that Canonical make their CDs/DVDs available through outlets like Netflicks for people that want physical media to install, but don't need it to keep (or to burn their own copy). Let those for-pay outlets take care of media distribution and return via their established infrastructures.

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    1. Re:Make available via outloets like Netflicks? by Itninja · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would be fine until someone accidentally booted from the Netflicks [sic] DVD and hosed their system because they did not know what they were doing. I doubt they would ever open themselves up to that kind of liability.

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  15. Re:Remember kids...Canonical is a private company by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's also a tax shelter country that the founder was born and raised in.

    I've always though the Ubuntu folks were particularly generous giving those CD's away. I mean it's not like they were demos or trialware or something.

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  16. Re:Oh no. by HamburglerJones · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm new to F/OSS. Could someone please distinguish "free as in beer" and "free as in beer coaster" for me?

  17. tax sheter country!! by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 2, Informative

    >>a tax shelter country

    Yeah, man. Parents these days!! I mean, they had to go and give birth to a child in that country just so that when he grows up and creates a company, he will get tax benefits!

  18. Get it in the stores by Smivs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of ubuntu's (and Linux in general) main obstacles is the lack of public awareness. You go to a computer store and everything on offer is pre-loaded with windoze...it's as if no other O/S exists. What Canonical really need to try to do (and I appreciate that this would not be without cost) is get the CD's in the stores so that punters buying a new computer will see it as a viable alternative to M$ products. Ideally, of course it would be nice if manufacturers could offer it pre-installed across their ranges as well. Also, as many people are hugely suspicious of anything 'free' and anything 'new', packaging it with a (sensibly priced) support service might be another way of 'selling' Linux to the masses.

    1. Re:Get it in the stores by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, it is impossible to get something in stores without charging for it. Because the stores will surely charge you for the privilege of having anything in there.

    2. Re:Get it in the stores by westlake · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You go to a computer store and everything on offer is pre-loaded with windoze...it's as if no other O/S exists

      The OEM system install has been the gold standard in the consumer market for the better part of thirty years.

      Hardware and software ships as a factory-tested and generally well-balanced system for its intended - advertised - use.

      The buyer has a warranty - the toll-free number for support. He doesn't need to google for a solution. He doesn't need his son-in-law.

      The DIY Linux OS install is never going to happen in numbers which matter.

      The FOSS app for Windows is already there. There is almost nothing of interest in the home and SOHO markets that is uniquely or distinctly Linux.

      By the time the Linux product hits the retail shelves - with licensed media play and other essentials - the "free" OS is a trivial discount at best. The retailer needs more to justify maintaining a dual inventory and support structure.

      Most users want the OS to recede into the background. To be undemanding of their attention as possible.

      That is why geek memes like "Windoze" work to Microsoft's advantage.

  19. Outdated System is Outdated by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 2, Funny

    1998 called, they want their software distribution method back.

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  20. This once again proves the old adage... by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Freedom isn't free"...

    (It costs $1.05...)

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  21. Re:Oh no. by Misch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just got an AOL CD in the mail this past weekend.

    First time in ages.

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  22. Re:Ubuntu or Debian? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No OS is one size fits all, so a little tweaking is inevitable. Debian is intended for everyone, so it's fairly easy to get set up the way you want it, and then forget about forever. Ubuntu is targeted towards the lowest common denominator, so if your needs are different from most you might have a little more hassle getting it the way you want it.

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  23. Gee.... by Hasai · · Score: 4, Informative

    ....What a wonderful problem to have.

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  24. Re:Why do we need CDs at all? by supersloshy · · Score: 2, Informative
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  25. Re:Why do we need CDs at all? by bahstid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just in case my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning, and seeing as its the second comment I've seen along these lines, here you go.

  26. Re:Flash Drives by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who even uses CDs to install anymore... ?

    Pretty much every other PC OS uses optical discs for installation by default.

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  27. Re:Ubuntu or Debian? by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What's more it costs money, so it must be better since "you get what you pay for."

    The even have a new Small Business Edition with support for up to "1 USERS" and "1 GB" of RAM. Imagine, a billion bytes of memory, all in a single PC!

  28. Re:Remember kids...Canonical is a private company by koiransuklaa · · Score: 4, Informative

    It should be quite hard to confuse Isle of Man and South Africa, so maybe I'm missing something...

    Could someone explain how this is informative?

  29. Re:Remember kids...Canonical is a private company by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Funny

    It should be quite hard to confuse Isle of Man and South Africa

    Hint: neither are in the US.

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