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Swiss Geologist On Trial For Causing Earthquakes

Hugh Pickens writes "BBC reports that Markus Haering's company had been working with the authorities in Basel, Switzerland to try to convert the heat in deep-seated rocks into electricity, but the project was suspended in 2006 when drilling triggered earthquakes, one of them with a magnitude of 3.4, leading Haering's company to pay out $9M in damages. Haering's team planned to drill a series of holes penetrating up to 3 miles (4.8 km) underground with water being pumped onto rocks with a temperature of more than 195C. Basel's location on top of a fault line – the upper Rhine trench – had been deliberately chosen because the heat was closer to the Earth's surface. A risk assessment has since shown that the prospect of further quakes is too high to continue drilling in the city. Haering faces up to five years in prison if the judge finds he intentionally damaged property. Haering has admitted the 3.4 magnitude earthquake was stronger than he had expected and that his team 'had very little knowledge of seismicity' before starting to drill, but called the quakes 'a learning process for everyone involved.' Despite Haering's trial, the Swiss appetite for geothermal projects has not diminished. Engineers are beginning preliminary drilling in Zurich to see whether that area was suitable for a similar scheme, and St. Gallen, in eastern Switzerland, plans to start work on its own geothermal project next year. Drilling efforts are being closely watched in the US, where the energy department is sponsoring more than 120 geothermal energy projects in several states."

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  1. Blahgh by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, gotta break a few eggs (and dishes) to make an omelet.

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    1. Re:Blahgh by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Funny

      I try not to be pedantic, but slipping and using "wreckless" in the case of earthquake damage is ironic.

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    2. Re:Blahgh by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

      Basel is EGS's "Altamont Pass". Altamont Pass was a wind farm that gave wind turbines their (undeserved) reputation as being bird killers. They built a wind farm right in the middle of a bird flyway, using low, fast-spinning turbines. It was a learning experience; nobody would be stupid enough to do that again.

      It's the same thing with EGS and earthquakes. In Basel, they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city. Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.

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    3. Re:Blahgh by nschubach · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I makes me wonder... I'm no geologist by any measure, but there's obviously pressure built up in that area. Wouldn't drilling holes to break holds and release some of that plate pressure by causing smaller quakes be a preferred course of action? Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?

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    4. Re:Blahgh by contrapunctus · · Score: 2

      So if the government wants them to make an omelet and company breaks some eggs, is it all the company's fault or does the government bear some responsibility?

    5. Re:Blahgh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      continuing in your sentance to be pedantic

      Clever! But I will not be so easily lured into your trap.

    6. Re:Blahgh by pileated · · Score: 4, Funny

      When it comes to being dumb, never say never!

    7. Re:Blahgh by svtdragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.

      I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.

    8. Re:Blahgh by Applekid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?

      No good deed goes unpunished?

      If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God. If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone's windows break, you can definitely sue the driller.

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    9. Re:Blahgh by digitalunity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I respectfully disagree. After living in the pacific northwest and experiencing numerous earthquakes firsthand, I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.

      There were several 3.5ish earthquakes in Oregon where I lived over the last 20 years and as far as I know, broken picture frames were the extent of the damage. Geothermal energy production only makes sense in places where volcanic or tectonic activity is likely. It's not without risk either.

      It seems obvious that there was no intentional earthquake caused, but that was the natural result of fracturing the fault and 3.4 hardly sounds noteworthy. However, more detailed seismic study seems warranted before moving forward with any such project in the future.

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    10. Re:Blahgh by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pedantic nitpick: That isn't being pedantic, that's being redundant.

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    11. Re:Blahgh by box4831 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God.

      No, but you can put in a coupon for a McDonalds McFlurry into the collection plate instead of the usual fiver next Sunday...

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    12. Re:Blahgh by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.

      I live in Southern California, near Los Angeles. Around here, at least, magnitude 3.4 quakes are hardly worth mentioning. Instead of fining this company, the city should thank them for the object lesson they provided about why you don't ignore well-known earthquake safety techniques when you're building over or near a fault line.

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    13. Re:Blahgh by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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    14. Re:Blahgh by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly, how does a 3.4 damage *anything*, there was a 3.3 here is Ohio back in April and I don't think anyone really noticed. The 1986 5.0 knocked me out of my seat in grade school (I was leaning back on two legs) but the only damage I recall was the separation of cinderblocks in one classroom causing the paint to crack, don't think they even bothered to repair it as it didn't present any kind of risk.

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    15. Re:Blahgh by maugle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In fact, the city should be grateful. Much better to have a magnitude 3.4 quake now, than to let the stress in the fault line accumulate until it breaks out in the form of a magnitude 8.0 quake.

    16. Re:Blahgh by similar_name · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God. If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone's windows break, you can definitely sue the driller.

      Makes me wonder. This is not the first time it's been believed that drilling triggered an earthquake. How long until you can sue because the city didn't pay for drillers to relieve pressure and major earthquake occurs.

    17. Re:Blahgh by Petrushka · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.

      Well, it depends on how deep the quake is. If it's of any depth at all, you're not going to notice a 3.4 quake even if you're standing on the epicentre. But if a 3.4 quake were to happen, say, 20 km underfoot, you might have issues. In many ways the perceptual scale is a more useful human measure.

    18. Re:Blahgh by techno-vampire · · Score: 2
      I live in the desert and we've had to of the largest quakes in recent California History. Landers at 7.1 and Hector at 7.3

      Quakes at that level are real E-ticket rides, aren't they? I was less than five miles from "ground zero" for the Northridge Quake at a gaming party that was just starting to break up anyway. Five minutes or so after it ended, we finally got the front door to the apartment open and we could still hear the swimming pool sloshing, but there was no damage except for the stuck door. I only realized how bad it was when I looked up and saw more stars than I'd seen since I was in Tonkin Gulf in '72.

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    19. Re:Blahgh by budgenator · · Score: 2

      FTA

      However it was unlikely to activate the major fault line that runs beneath Basel, which led to a huge quake that devastated the city in 1356. Switzerland geologist on trial for 'causing quakes'

      My guess is at least some of the "damaged" buildings were around 653 years old.

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    20. Re:Blahgh by lxs · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Bird killers" makes it sound so evil. Call them "Automated Dinosaur Culling Devices" and public acceptance will soar. Open a KFC underneath preferably with a large net on the roof and the natural cycle will be complete.

  2. Here we go... by Philotic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I doubt the geologist is at fault. However, his defense rests on really shaky ground.

    1. Re:Here we go... by Jophish · · Score: 3, Funny

      He isn't really at fault here.

    2. Re:Here we go... by ystar · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Moria. You fear to go into those mines. The geologists dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum...lawsuit trolls..."

  3. Learning process? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    We learned that causing earthquakes costs 9 million dollars and a 5 year stretch. I had always wondered.

  4. No, me! ME! by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blast it, I failed the broadcast take over announcing my intentions for world domination! It was my demostration of my earthquake machine! me, me ME!

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  5. Damages? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These villagers were scamming the poor guy. $9 million in damages from a *3.4* quake? Cripes, a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.

    I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.

    1. Re:Damages? by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Informative

      I wonder if they had anyone from Iceland consulting on this. They have lots of geothermal heating and power generation there on a geologically active land mass, but AFAIK, they've avoided triggering earthquakes.

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    2. Re:Damages? by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is a different tech than most of Iceland's geothermal: EGS. Most of Iceland's geothermal is from natural reservoirs (although Iceland is starting to move in the direction of EGS, too).

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    3. Re:Damages? by Peregr1n · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some parts of the world are more used to earthquakes than others, and plan accordingly. I'm guessing (from a quick glance at your blog) that you're in the USA - western? Your houses are probably designed to be quake-proof, and a 3.4 quake will do nothing but rattle your plates. Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone, and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth.
      Disclaimer - I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves. (Far from villagers, too, BTW)

    4. Re:Damages? by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative

      I grew up in an earthquake prone zone. The threshold for rattling plates is at least 4.0, maybe even 4.5. Real damage doesn't really occur until 6.0, maybe 5.5 in areas where houses aren't built for it. And the Richter scale is logarithmic - 3.4 really is inconsequential, most people wouldn't even feel it.

  6. US project shut down by Rufus211 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thankfully a project by the same company just north of San Francisco has been shut down. The last thing CA needs is more earthquakes.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/science/earth/12quake.html

  7. Re:A Learning Experience - by Quantos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just imagine the other inmates, 'So, what are you in for?'

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  8. In other news... by Z1NG · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, Swiss marine biologist accused of attaching lasers to the heads of sharks.
    Seriously, if this guy changes his name to Dr. Quake or some other reasonable mad scientist name his only punishment should be a lecture from the super hero of his choice.
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    On a more serious note, this is pretty scary. His excuse that the result was stronger than he expected is lame - when dealing with things of this magnitude you should try to be as certain as possible. Calling such a damaging incident "a learning process" seems a little asinine. I hope no one was hurt.

  9. Eggshell defense by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Informative

    These villagers were scamming the poor guy. $9 million in damages from a *3.4* quake? Cripes, a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull

    Translation/application: if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake, even if everyone's houses are made of chewing gum and paper- you're responsible for the damage, because had you not done what you did, the damage wouldn't have happened.

    1. Re:Eggshell defense by afidel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually I think the engineers who designed and built the buildings should be held negligent, building a structure that takes *any* damage from a 3.4 in a fault zone should be criminal. Seriously we get earthquakes on that magnitude here in Ohio on an almost yearly basis, in the middle of the freaking NA plate. If you are in a geothermally active country you should be expecting a heck of a lot more than that!

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  10. Re:A Learning Experience - by six11 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I imagine he would be seen as an evil supervillain like Lex Luthor or something, and emerge from jail with a small army to do his geological bidding.

  11. Hey, it's a good way to get rid of... by mrami · · Score: 5, Funny

    those pesky minarets! Yeppers!

  12. can we go after natural gas companies, too? by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/energy-environment/08fracking.html

    The drilling boom is raising concern in many parts of the country, and the reaction is creating political obstacles for the gas industry. Hazards like methane contamination of drinking water wells, long known in regions where gas production was common, are spreading to populous areas that have little history of coping with such risks, but happen to sit atop shale beds.

    And a more worrisome possibility has come to light. A string of incidents in places like Wyoming and Pennsylvania in recent years has pointed to a possible link between hydraulic fracturing and pollution of groundwater supplies. In the worst case, such pollution could damage crucial supplies of water used for drinking and agriculture

    It isn't going to be climate change that kills us. We won't have any clean water to drink. Fun fact: the "safe water drinking act" isn't being enforced by the EPA, and even water that has very unhealthy level of arsenic is "safe". Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound "safe" to you?

  13. Obviously not an expert, maybe ex pert? by Roskolnikov · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This has all happened before and apparently will happen again:

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/lr247770l2272741/

    I recall these earthquakes were triggered by chemical weapon disposal, same plot though, dig a big deep hole and put liquid in.....
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  14. Re:Intentionally? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not familiar with Swiss law either. This may be a lost-in-translation issue. If he knew his actions would cause damage, and continued in those actions anyway, then likely he has committed some crime. The specific word "intent" may not be the right one here... "willful" may be a better translation/interpretation.

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  15. most earth scientists knew this since 1960s by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The big eye-opener was the injection of fluid at Rocky Mountain Arsenal near denver causing medium size quakes in 1965. This is called induced seismicity . Its been seen around new dams (possibility in last years large Sichuan quake), geothermal drilling, irrigation fluid disposal, water table drops, etc.

    Teh question really is political. Was the possibility of I.S. included in the pre-project environmental study? Did they ignore signs of it starting? Was it really caused by their activities.

  16. Re:A Learning Experience - by Rei · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is your name Louis Michaud?

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  17. Drying clothes and linen on rope in sun and wind by Max_W · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All this to produce electricity to dry clothing in the electric dryers. Just let people dry clothing and linen on the ropes in the sun and wind.

    Billions and billions of such drying wet items will cool the planet. Because it will be daily, and it will be in billions.

    We are trying to solve by engineering means a problem which is not a technical problem. It is a problem in our heads.

  18. In Iceland.... by jonfr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here in Iceland they have been pumping down Co2 for testing. That is down with water, but the result is the same, it has created earthquakes. The largest one was about ML2.0 before they stopped the experiment.

    I don't know why it was stopped. But it is quite oblivious that pressure changes create earthquakes faster then one might think.

    However, in Iceland they where pumping down that water within a active volcano with a lot of fault lines.

  19. Haering's company was actually ... by Brad+Eleven · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... trying to selectively topple minarets.

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  20. lol by Weezul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I agree, indeed this is the whole point of an LLC. LLCs are horribly abused quite routinely. I often observe that chemical companies should really be charged with manslaughter for some of their pollutants. *But* a serious research project that happens to "break a few eggs" should really be let slide.

    A reasonable compromise might be awarding shares in this company to the damaged cities and the Swiss national science funding body, so the company current backers face dilution as punishment, but no immediate funds change hands, and any IP becomes closer to public property.

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  21. impossible by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can't "cause" an earthquake. They are caused by tectonic pressure. You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.

    Perhaps this man's 3.4 quake actually saved the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later! Did anyone think of that? Perhaps they should be giving him a medal.

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    1. Re:impossible by pitchpipe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can't "cause" an earthquake. They are caused by tectonic pressure. You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.

      You are absolutely right. How about a bunch of small quakes rather than one large one. I live in Salt Lake City which geologists say lies on a large fault that is due for a large quake. I'd much rather have a planned quake, even if it was fairly large rather than a huge unexpected one. I guarantee that if that happens I'll know people who'll die. I just really hope that when it does happen it isn't anyone too close to me. Selfish I know, but aren't we all? I just wonder why nobody in that village seems to have thought that maybe he just saved their asses.

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  22. Hell... by Burning1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hell, here's a map of the earthquakes that happened this week in California.

    http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/

  23. Re:A Learning Experience - by igny · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just imagine the other inmates, 'So, what are you in for?'

    Drilling holes with deep penetration. With a ground shaking climax.

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  24. If you get my drift by rumblin'rabbit · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hate to be pedantic (ahem), but heat from the earth's core is nuclear power, since it is the decay of radioactive materials that heats the core.

    But cooling the earth's core would halt continental drift. Did anyone think of that? And then where would we be? Screwed, that where.

    People just don't think these things through.

  25. A Travesty by b4upoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It is a shame that this fellow is going to be on trial. He obviously had no intent to do harm. And this article does not indicate the he was irresponsible in his efforts. Sometimes bad things happen but that does not mean that someone should be punished.