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Germany Warns Against Using Firefox
jayme0227 writes "Due to the recent exploit in Firefox, Germany has warned against its use. This comes a couple months after Germany advised against using IE. Perhaps we should start taking odds as to which browser will be next." Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2.
Yup
3.6.2 is out.
Firefox 3.6.2 was released earlier tonight: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.2/releasenotes/
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As soon as I read about this on /. I realized Firefox is downloading an update to 3.6.2. This is why free software is our best tool against malware. Reaction time can scale with importance. And (shameless free software plug alert) it's why I wrote what's in my sig.
The vulnerability *only* affects the current 3.6 branch. Patch is complete and will be pushed on the 30th of March.
Here is the Mozilla blog entry on the topic:
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2010/03/18/update-on-secunia-advisory-sa38608
Here is the original bug report:
http://secunia.com/advisories/38608
Ps: can we please get security related articles with some content instead of *OMG, we are all going to die!!* ??
German government warns against use of the internet and software that has bugs.
Software is inevitably going to have bugs in it and try as we might, it's something we'll always have to deal with. There are always mitigation strategies, such as running Firefox in a virtualized environment a la Sandboxie or a full virtual machine, but we'll never be privy to using only bug-free software day to day. I'm glad to see the German government taking an active approach to notifying people in regard to vulnerabilities in an attempt to mitigate them, but as TFA states, what's the point in suggesting users quit using Firefox when the alternatives are potentially just as vulnerable?
The take-away from this is Germans are never happy.
The German government seems to be being quite responsible here. There is an issue with Firefox, and most users probably don't know about it because they don't regularly read tech news sites.
The government is simply trying to keep people informed about this rather important topic, and has done so in a reasonable and proportional way. Not every warning put out is a damning condemnation of flawed security that mandates switching to Lynx you know.
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Well, the Germans, by releasing this warning about the same time the expected Firefox update came out only proves that their eariler recommendation for choosing Firefox was the right one.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE.
Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox.
* against the use of Opera!
* against the use of Chrome!
* against the use of internets!
o hai
Firefox rocks too, and it doesn't serve as ad tracking software for Google.
That's true, as long as you turn off Google as the default search, disable cookies, and don't use any other Google services. Which, you can do in Chrome too.
Keep on knockin'
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Better yet, free software authors (developers) aren't hiding anywhere. It would be hard to contact IE team but Mozilla developers can be reached easily, via mail or even IRC.
Posting this warning while it is easy to figure/ask 3.6.2 is OTW really requires some review by German Govt. For example, did someone from that team have some dinner/launch with some company executive lately?
Surely anyone who is concerned about this vulnerability could simply run one of the nightly builds until the official update is released?
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The article says:
It is only the current version that is affected, but given that prior releases have different vulnerabilities, reverting to an older version of the browser is ill-advised.
However, the older releases page states that 3.5 will receive security updates until August 2010.
So, since 3.5 was not affected by this specific vulnerability, what vulnerabilities are unpatched in the current 3.5 release (3.5.8)?
If the Beeb or the German government knows something Firefox doesn't know, maybe they should tell us so that people still using/shipping (in the case of most linux distros) 3.5 can upgrade to 3.6? Or, if they *don't* know better, maybe they should stick to fact and not conjecture ...
Contrary to Slashdot etiquette, I did read TFA. To me, the most extraordinary piece of news is that the BBC (not quite a geek-oriented news source) makes no mention at all of Firefox being FLOSS. This is excellent news. It means becoming mainstream. The Gandhi quote springs to mind.
I think you'll find that Chrome's record with regards security is no better than IE8 or FF.
Also, as far as rocking, I still can't get over the way it rides roughshod over installation standards and copies program files to your user profile. Until they get that sorted I won't touch it.
If I'm reading this correctly, the vulnerability is in WOFF fonts (what is a WOFF font?) and possibly allows some heap corruption. How do these various "exploits" actually get the Firefox code to execute out of the heap? I.e. one presumably has to either scribble on some known call-back function address in the heap, or somehow scribble on the stack (so Firefox/Seamonkey functions return to the exploit code in the heap) and isn't the data in the heap non-executable (at least under Linux)? I would expect that anyone trying to exploit vulnerabilities such as this would be causing the browser to abort (due to SEGV's or other severe faults) and would drive users away from accessing such pages.
So are these many "exploits" one hears about mostly sound and fury or are there serious risks? [In contrast to say something like an SQL injection attack where a person with reasonable knowledge of SQL could compromise insecure servers.]
Well they warned against IE and Firefox. On Windows that narrows it down to Chrome and Opera. I'm just waiting for one more announcement so I'll know which one is the winner.
(btw please don't show off your knowledge of esoteric browsers by listing them here. those are the four biggest ones by far)
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Have you looked at the BSI page and linked mozilla blog page?
The mozilla blog entry was dated March 18th (giving March 30th as the release date for 3.6.2). The BSI advisory was dated March 19th (4 days before the story broke on slashdot; and 4 days before the actual release of 3.6.2).
So, you're saying, it was retaliation by BSI against Firefox, for publishing a release date the firefox crew themselves published the day before?
On March 19th - with the projected release date 11 days away, it seems it was perfectly in order for BSI to recommend use of an alternative for those 11 days:
"empfiehlt das Bürger-CERT die Nutzung alternativer Browser, bis die Mozilla Firefox Version 3.6.2
veröffentlicht ist."
This has nothing to do with fear-mongering - but simply that during a potential danger period, people might want to watch out. Their article clearly stated it only affected 3.6, and their article stated that their advisory is temporary 'until 3.6.2 is released'.
How is that retaliation?
The Government warned today issued a warning against using the internet because of security issues.
The office for Information Security reported the discovery of a major flaw that allows bad people to use the internet too. Citing incidents of users who have already been spammed, scammed, hacked, phished, botted, keylogged and otherwise abused the office has issued a strong recommendation to stop using the web altogether until this vulnerability is patched.
It is as yet unclear whether these exploits will be patched in the pending release of Web 2.1
China just plain doesn't want anyone using the internet.
Never say never. Ah!! I did it again!
Gandhi had a quote with regards to Open Source going mainstream? ...are we talking about the the same Gandhi here? Pastoral Hindu Cotton-loom ascetic Gandhi?
Opera. As any fule kno, Germans are really keen on opera. They have some that go on for weeks.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
> That's true, as long as you turn off Google as the default search, disable cookies
And don't forget about LSO cookies (Flash directory), that do NOT get deleted by FF's cookie deletion on exit. Extra add-on is needed (BetterPrivacy) to do so.
Oh...and MozDevs...please restore the 'Clear History on Exit' window on browser exit. Thanx!
Mozilla clearly have no idea about....... ....wait a minute....it's not a Microsoft product we're talking about?!
THIS IS SUCH A NON ISSUE! The German government are clearly over-reacting here.
throw new NoSignatureException();
I'm undoubtedly missing something, but why is installing a program in my personal folder a bad idea? It allows non-elevated installs, has no access to files outside of the user dir unless granted, allows each user to have a totally separate installation so fucking one up doesn't fuck up everyone else's, no registry entries aside from ones to HKCU, uninstalls don't mess everyone else's life up, no reboots on uninstall... I don't get it?
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However is REALLY bad, and like where Opera was 5 years ago.
This is general warning not to use any software that has known and/or unknown bugs in it. This warning goes moot when every known and/or unknown issue is solved.
You don't know what you don't know.
The Germans are absolutely right to caution against using various browsers - unplugging is probably safest, though.
It's a complete non-starter on a computer with multiple user accounts. How do you update it? Do you really want to update every single version separately? Really? What about corporate environments?
Firefox installer isn't great for corporate Windows environments either because it isn't delivered as an MSI package. Why on earth the FF people can't follow a nearly 10 year old platform packaging standard is beyond me. Yes you can get FF MSI packages from 3rd parties but that has its own problems and barriers.
Oh right, updating. I knew I was missing something.
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Chrome, Opera and Safari, but there are other browsers besides the standard 5.
As the island of our knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance.
...unchecking "Allow pages to choose their own fonts" block this?
(Or "Stop using Microsoft Windows", but I won't mention that.)
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So don't use IE, now don't use FF, soon, don't use Opera or Safari, come on, they want no one to use the net, or what?
Seriously, what do they expect, instead of warning to not use them, instead warn how to use them in combination with updates, patches, AV, and firewalls, but that would be a little more effort!
Is there a link to a working exploit ?
The difference is that Firefox has vulnerabilities like any normal application... Internet Explorer on the other hand has been the forefront infection vector for botnets of hundreds of thousands of machines for the past decade.
Yeah, but Safari is made by Apple, Chrome is made by Google, they use the same rendering engine, and so if I need to swear loyalty to one of those companies, I'd rather it be Google than Apple.
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The article implies that Germany (meaning the government) has issued a warning. However, the BSI (Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationtechnik (engl. Federal Agency for Safety and Security in Information Technology)) warned about an issue in firefox. So the BSI does the same job as CERT, they warn about security issues. It is not that the government made a law or a ruling or any other governmental thing. BTW: The same thing applies to the IE problem. And if there is a problem with Safari or Opera or Lynx or Telnet or any other browser you can think of then they will warn about it.
As Firefox is the most used browser in Germany, it is really important that the BSI warns people about any issue.
(I appologize for any inconvenience due to misuse of prepositions and articles in this post)
Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability!
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more security exploits, crashes, slow and bloated browsing experiences Firefox users have ot put up with, before they seek out better alternatives like Opera?
Just wondering. Or are those pains part and parcel of supporting American or OpenSource products? You take those problems with it?
Really! Well, here you go then:
Opera 10.50 Security Vulnerability
Of course Opera 10.51 has been released to patch it... just like Firefox 2.6.2 has been released to patch this one.
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>Submitted by AmigaMMC on Monday March 22, @11:00PM
How does publication of submission exactly work? I had posted the same article nearly 3 hours before this one and yet it was not picked.
The BSI is not the government. It is a federal agency. BSI = Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (engl. Federal Agency for safety and security in Information Technology). They are more something like CERT. Even though the US government thinks the BSI is some sort of NSA, because the NSA also does security in information technology (e.g. seLinux). However, the BSI does not spy on people. This is done by another agency. And the BSI is so much the government as it is the police or judges.
..and if you have actually used it on Windows, you know that its really bad.
Unresponsive, with a non-conforming UI, and the installer carries a payload of other apple software.
"His name was James Damore."
Don’t bother. I don’t even read what you post. I barely skim it enough to try to figure out your main point. If I’m not mistaken, you’re saying that my argument is invalid because it is “old news”?
Ah. Well, this is “old news” too. 2.6.2 is out.
And in the future... well, there will always be unpatched vulnerabilities. I doubt that software will ever be perfect... yes, that includes your beloved Opera.
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Why indeed. Why are you trolling Firefox for an old, patched vulnerability?
Other than the reason of you being an idiot, but that goes without saying.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
You have to move to Europe and buy Windows there. Instead of the 4 browsers you get the standard option of 12.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Germany warns against using internet.
-- QED
You seem to have a very odd definition of “first”. One that means, “second”, apparently.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Offtopic. I didn’t even read it.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Why? We were talking about security, not speed. Stop changing the subject.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Oh, "somehow", lol, I think you did
Yes, you caught me. I read the ALL CAPS LINE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR COMMENT. That is all. It took me, perhaps 2 seconds. Just like it did to “read” 1 or 2 sentences from this latest post of yours.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Just sayin'.
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When did I admit that?
All I admitted is that I don’t read the vast majority of the drivel you post.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I'm no Apple fanboy but I have (and occasionally still do) used it (v4) on Windows and it works at least well as any other browser. Certainly better than IE. Probably more conforming in the UI dept than Chrome. And most installers carry a pile of garbage unless you deselect it.
Your comments are actually starting to look readable. I like it. The paragraphs are still a little bit small, though. You could work on it.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Offtopic? You started it by bringing up Opera’s speed to troll an article about security.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
> Why is it phrased "Clear History on Exit?" That implies it was written to disk.
Well, Cache, Cookies etc. WERE written to disk already. The clearing of those files on closing the browser is what I was referring to. Firefox in the past had the option of popping up a window with your preset to-be-deleted items already checked, but with the option of manual override at that time. Now they've done away with that and do the deletion invisibly to the user (with the presets somewhere in the Preferences).
I know, there's a plug-in to restore it, but I don't get why this great option was removed in the first place. Several friends on trying Firefox the first time (I had already set it up accordingly) LOVED that option and may have been the first time they ever realized, that their browsing does leave traces. Lots of them. So they enjoyed removing them too.
> Why not Store No History? Safer and (marginally) faster.
That'd be the Private Browsing Option. Similar End-Result (no locally stored data), just up-front. Two slightly different approaches though. I like having the history (blue links I visited already, suggestions in the location bar based on previous URL's etc.), when I use my own private computer where nobody else has access to. I don't need, don't want complete private browsing (from whom?) that moment. Removing cookies on browser exit is enough for me, whereas on some other machine (friends, Internet Cafe) I always remove everything on close.
Several friends on trying Firefox the first time (I had already set it up accordingly) LOVED that option and may have been the first time they ever realized, that their browsing does leave traces. Lots of them. So they enjoyed removing them too.
You can still set it up to clear it all automatically when you exit — at the slight risk of forgetting that it was even keeping track of them in the first place. Now, it doesn’t ask... it just clears them, if that’s what you’ve set.
It’s under the Privacy options, if you use custom settings for history.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Ugh, that’s a step backward. Why don’t you code your links with appropriate descriptions between the <a> tags instead of just slamming the URL in there?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
> You can still set it up to clear it all automatically when you exit
I know...thanx. I am unhappy about having this wonderful feature demoted to invisible background status and out of user's awareness!
No, no PHD in English, but I do have As in several college writing classes under my belt.
Anyway, it doesn’t take a PHD to tell that your writing style is hideous. I’d rank it almost “ass end of a baboon”. Nowhere near “goatse”, though... you have a long way to go, young whippersnapper.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
It’s the wrong article.
Post an article about Opera’s superior speed and we can discuss it to your heart’s content.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Do you actually think I read any of that? Why do you bother?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
See subject-line above & also, note this report from SECUNIA:
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Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)
So when the parent asks for "software that was correctly written and had no exploits to begin with", you provide one that has had 9 vulnerabilities as noted in 5 reports, 60% of which are classified as highly critical with the rest as moderately critical. Excellent work.
Don't get me wrong - Opera is a fine browser and definitely worth consideration. But it hardly meets the criteria.
I vill hear no more insinuations about the German people. Nothing bad happened. Sie werden sich hinsetzen. Sie werden ruhig sein. Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland.
And most installers carry a pile of garbage unless you deselect it.
I certainly haven't noticed that in case of Opera and Firefox.
Ezekiel 23:20
It is not possible to write a modern browser that is completely bug free and completely lacking in security holes. It sure is nice to wish that someone did make such a browser, but since browsers are written by human beings, I'll settle for browsers that are reasonably secure, reasonably bug-free, and frequently patched instead of complaining that none of them are perfect. Of course, if the post we're all responding to was made in jest, it was damned funny.
I don't think I've ever seen a browser zealot until now. You are like a religious fanatic. Seek help.
Again - it's all about "software that was correctly written and had no exploits to begin with." Speed isn't the issue.
Yes - Opera is speedy. It's a fine browser. Do consider it. But consider it for the right reasons. What was that? "Ask & ye shall receive?" Make sure the answers you're getting even apply to the questions you asked, much less the right questions.
And a fine showing, APK. Once again, you're missing the point and using all manner of hand-waving to avoid having to face the fact.
That's my real question. FF was fixed in a month. Was IE fixed and how long did it take?
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Under tools>appearance you can set different skins. By default, it has the default and a 'windows native' one, that looks terrible, but may be easier to see? I don't know. There are a large number of others to choose from if you select the "find more skins" button.
Yes, I should have read the actual post to notice the dates, but making that mistake hardly makes me a "troll."
You are quite foolish to underestimate the influence of Microsoft. I'm suggesting that, as soon as the vulnerability in Firefox surfaced, the BSI came under an enormous amount of pressure from Microsoft (and all of its thousands of tiny front groups) to be "fair" and post this anti-Firefox FUD right away. Had they bothered contacting Mozilla themselves, instead of just reading the blog post, they might have been made aware that the release was imminent. Hell, even if the release wasn't ready, Mozilla might have even pushed a minor update simply to fix this one issue instead of having this bad press get out there...
Given that browsers, or your email client, is only "vulnerable" when the user opens something they shouldn't (in the case of email) or browses to a malicious site, why don't they just friggin tell people that? Tell them to BE CAREFUL and what to watch out for, ie. *educate them* instead of "omg Windows/Linux has a security hole, quick turn your PC off now!"
Then again, point me to a government that doesn't treat their citizens like idiots and would prefer them to be so.
Actually, I am
Yeah. That’s what I said. Why are you repeating what I said? For that matter, why am I repeating what you said I said?
Regarding the rest of your comment, it looks like you got your <quote> tags screwed up. LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
No, no, not at all. You accused me of eating my words. I never did any such thing.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
If they don't recommend all (2) of the major browsers, what browsers are they using / do they recommend?
Pray tell?
This sounds like FUD to stay off the internet.
Because you have avoided my simple request to submit a related article so we can discuss it.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Whatever, Kimmo.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I said AN ARTICLE, not OFFTOPIC COMMENTS.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
The problem is that your facts are irrelevant. The thread was talking about zero defects. You reply with an example that has a history of defects. Instead of earning up to this fact, you're trying to call attention away with name-calling and off-topic statements. Little surprise - it's what you do.
"The problem is that your facts are irrelevant." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
Opera = faster than ANY browser & ZERO/0 security vulnerabilities, + the largest set of in-built native features of the "big 3" webbrowsers? Well...
See subject line, & "nuff said"...
I couldn't have made my point any better myself. You quote me about your irrelevant wandering and then you reply with irrelevant wandering. 'Nuff said indeed!
"The thread was talking about zero defects. You reply with an example that has a history of defects" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
Show me a complex program that hasn't that's exposed to the internet & javascript especially online... AND, I also point to Opera, with ZERO/0 current security vulnerabilities known for it too!
The fun thing here is that you didn't talk about how difficult it is to create complex systems without defects. You put Opera up as an example. And Operas has a history of defects. Yes - currently there's no unpatched vulnerabilities. That we know about. But there's a history of defects. And that hardly makes Opera the slam-dunk answer you make it out to be.
You're caught clueless again, apk. And you can't avoid it.
"Instead of earning up to this fact" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
What is wrong with pointing out to others that OPERA'S THE FASTEST & SAFEST BROWSER OUT THERE I ask you? LOL... I'll tell you what: FireFox fanboyism on your part imo!
I never mentioned Firefox. If anything, this is rampant Opera fanboyism. The fact is that you screwed up (again) and now you're trying to back-peddle. Again.
"Little surprise - it's what you do." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
You mean telling others about the FASTEST & SAFEST WEB-BROWSER PROGRAM OUT THERE WITH THE MOST NATIVE FEATURES IN OPERA 10.51?
(YOU BET!)
No - you make grand claims with irrelevant facts. And then you start waving your hands around as soon as someone bothers to follow up and catches you at it.
APK
P.S.=> Fanboys of Firefox - always trying to minimize that Opera's got them outperformed, and is more secure! apk
That's it, apk! Stay on message! This is all about how wonderful Opera is in the face of irrational Firefox fanatics. Nevermind the fact that your zero-defect example is shown to be incorrect even at your first link. But don't admit it. Never admit you're wrong. Don't change a thing.
Here, I’ll help you: http://slashdot.org/submission
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
You know perfectly well what it means, LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Still the avoidance, still the denial. You are a sad case. I even gave you a link.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Sure you don’t, ROFL. And what does speed have to do with ANYTHING?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
What is irrelavant (or wrong) about telling people that Opera's been shown, time & again, that OPERA IS THE FASTEST & SAFEST WEB-BROWSER PROGRAM THERE IS WITH THE LARGEST NATIVE FEATURESET BUILT-IN NATIVELY THERE IS?
The thread was about zero-defect code. You produced an example with defects. All this about being fast, safe, and a large feature set is irrelevant to the thread of the conversation; no matter how many times you repeat it.
"The fun thing here is that you didn't talk about how difficult it is to create complex systems without defects." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday March 25, @12:56AM (#31607340)
Now wait a second: Didn't I say "HELLO WORLD" level programs 'need not apply' etc. et al? Sure I did, right here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31599332...
Sprocket? Who screwed up here now?? You did!
(You've done that before & you're skimmning man (or, lying, take your pick))!
Pitty you didn't talk about that in your first post. You remember - "ask & ye shall receive"? The place where the parent asked and you failed to produce.
I like it when you pull out that Ozymandias quote and start to list off your "accomplishments". The poem is about a king and his hubris laid to ruin; his accomplishments dust. It's so fitting. Every time you do this quote-and-list act, it's to try and distract from the fact that you're clueless about whatever subject you're talking about at the time. Clearly, having written some shareware doesn't make you an expert in every subject you can cast your bold text at.
And so my job here is done. You've been outed again, apk.
All I have asked for is an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox. Currently, you are posting off-topic in an article about security.
LOL OWNED, go troll someone else.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
My “undoing”, LOL? You really are grasping at straws.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
That is not an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox. You seem to be incredibly stupid, or dense, or both. I’m sorry for you.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I actually think it is really funny; you started by saying that Opera has NEVER been “owned”, (exact quote, They never "came for Opera") and then when I showed that “they” did “come for Opera”:
It is recommended to only access trustworthy websites until a patch is released or switch to another web browser in the meantime.
Now since I defeated your stupid claims you have switched to browser speed, which is hilarious because the faster Opera is, the quicker it will get “pwned” (to borrow the slang spelling of the word). And if they patched it? Well, they patched Firefox as well, so why are you bringing up OLD NEWS, troll?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
tl/dr
Submit an article, troll.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Uhm, Sprocket? See subject-line, & realize that I have data that's from a valid respectable source showing Opera currently bearing NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES... for a complex program, especially one online faced w/ javascript exploits & more galore?? Please - enough w/ your WEAK ARGUMENTS - especially coming from a wannabe technically unqualified nobody like you, ok?
Your same data shows that this version has a history of vulnerabilities. Zero un-patched, but hardly zero-defect. When the parent notes "I don't want software that patches exploits quickly, I want software that was correctly written and had no exploits to begin with," showing an example with 9 patched vulnerabilities hardly meets the mark.
Keep dancing around the fact, apk. Post links that have nothing to do with this fact. Post links where I've caught you out before. I've exposed you in the past and I've exposed you here again - you can't avoid it no matter how much noise you generate to disguise it.
As I noted - my job here is done. And as you are unable to address the issue I've pointed out (9 vulnerabilities are not equal to zero vulnerabilities) in the past four postings, I'll let my argument rest and walk away.
Ok, where EXACTLY did I say OPERA "never ever had a flaw", hmmm?
exact quote from you: They never "came for Opera"
exact quote from the security company: switch to another web browser in the meantime
yet again, 0wn3d. Thanks for playing.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Who, me? I’ve beaten you soundly. You’re just too dumb to figure it out. Like a chicken with its head cut off, you make a lot of noise and commotion for someone who’s already been hung out to dry.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I don’t give a flying fuck what Germany says. I found a recommendation from a reputable security company that I in fact give much more credibility than some pencil-pusher in the German government.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
All vulnerabilities are unknown before they are discovered, moron. That tautological statement shouldn’t even need to be said, but apparently you’re too stupid to figure it out. “Zero known vulnerabilities” does not mean it has no vulnerabilities, just that we don’t know about them.
But if you really want to continue quoting meaningless statistics, please tell me how many known vulnerabilities Firefox has, and back it up with a reputable source obviously.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
ON TOPIC?
You are not one to lecture anyone for being off topic.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Your same data shows that this version has a history of vulnerabilities." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday March 25, @04:52PM (#31617462)
Hold on: Did I EVER SAY that any complex xoftware "never has or had bugs"? No, I said QUITE THE OPPOSITE, here, in my P.S. in fact in this URL below (& before or after that again mind you, & FAR BEFORE YOU EVER DID):
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31599332
I know I said I was done with this conversation, but since you were nice enough to actually get on topic again, I'll reply to the one thing you've managed to be somewhat coherent about. When the parent poster says:
And you reply with:
One is going to expect that you've provided an example of software that was, in fact, without vulnerabilities. Yet the first data you provide shows this is not the case. Perhaps you saw the 0 unpatched vulnerabilities and misunderstood what that meant (you might have even missed that Secunia notes 9 vulnerabilities, not 5). This means that the Opera code has, in fact, had vulnerabilities that needed to be patched. I would assume it was patched quickly. But none the less, it falls out of line with what the parent was talking about.
Again - let me repeat this again just in case you're missing the point. When you note (and I'm quoting you here, not putting words in your mouth) "NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES FOR OPERA UNPATCHED @ PRESENT" that misses the point. The parent said no bugs. And the fact that you even note "Where did I EVER SAY OPERA NEVER HAD A FLAW? Heck - I even stated in the first URL above EVERY COMPLEX SOFTWARE USUALLY DOES" shows that you understand the basic idea. You're just having a hard time getting the two things to mesh together.
Maybe your ego is in the way. I'd work on that a bit more, Ozymandias. It'd be embarrassing for another "nobody" to have to correct you the next time.
LOL, still at this? APK, you have been beaten badly, why don’t you just give up? too too easy, as you would say.
Germany warns against using Firefox because of vulnerability; patched in new version.
Independent security firm warns against using Opera because of vulnerability; patched in new version.
Exactly the same; I beat you easily on security when you claimed that “they never came for Opera” and so you fell back to your tried and true trolling about speed, which is moot, offtopic, and I even gave you a link to submit a story so that you could make your argument legitimately but you “don’t do that” because oh noes it would require you to write a sane, readable paragraph or two if it had any hope of being accepted for publication. Which of course we both know doesn’t require a “PHD in English” but which capability you seem to lack, despite the fact that you claim to be old enough that we ought to be able to expect sane, readable, and coherent thought from you.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
SHOW ME WHERE I SAID OPERA NEVER HAD A BUG
Certainly: “They never came for Opera”. They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found.
Thanks for playing. Too, too easy.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Show me an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that about Firefox CURRENTLY.
Oh, you can’t. You only have this OLD, OLD NEWS, and besides which you said they NEVER DID and I showed that someone DID. So you fail on all counts!! nice try, troll. play again.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Actually, that is false, you were NEVER “completely on topic”; your ORIGINAL response was:
FALSE, as “they never came for Opera”... INCORRECT, as I showed;
OFF-TOPIC, as we were talking about Firefox and IE, not “for Opera”... your FALSE information about Opera is not relevant;
OFF-TOPIC, as we were talking about SECURITY, but “OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED” is 200% UTTERLY OFF-TOPIC.
So you posted FALSE, OFF-TOPIC information from the very beginning, and now you are claiming that I am trolling you?!! LOL, better luck next time, poor apk... you must be slipping.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Who gives a flying shit what the German idiots said about Opera?
I quoted a LEGITIMATE SECURITY COMPANY. You fail, but that was really a nice try.
Trolling all my posts is a nice touch, too. LOL, the last act of a desperate child!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Um, yes, that’s OLD NEWS, and updated in the new version... so no, not “CURRENT”. Nice try, apk!
It does make me laugh though to think how many mod points will be wasted modding down all of your offtopic, trolling posts replying to all of my posts.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I already said I don’t give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said.
I quoted a LEGITIMATE SECURITY COMPANY.
Enjoy your shitty advice from the wannabe security people in the German government, loser. I’ll be over here quoting real security analysts.
You’re such a failure at trolling that it’s really sad.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
OOOOh yeah, the Germans are experts on computer security.
Not.
Enjoy your shitty advice from German politicians who know nothing about computers and OLD, OLD news about Firefox bugs that were already patched. LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Maybe you need to re-read this thread; I never cared what the Germans said about Opera. Or Firefox, because they’re retards and this is OLD NEWS, and has been patched.
I just delivered a knock-out punch when you said “they never came for Opera”, showing that a LEGITIMATE (unlike the idiots in the German government who could be utterly clueless about security as far as I am concerned) company recommended that you NOT use Opera because of exactly the same sort of security flaw. Ever since then you’ve been butthurt about that so you brought up speed to try to bait me into getting off the topic, which I didn’t fall for... LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, whatever you say kimmo.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
No, let me refresh YOUR memory: this article was about THE NEW VERSION, 3.6.2.
The headline of TFA:
Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source. It’s not like I claimed to be an expert.
Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL).
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
It’s really quite funny that you want to publicize this spat.
Any sane person could see from this thread that you are clearly batshit insane. And you apparently want people to read it? Why... are you so delusional that you think they’ll agree with you?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, do you seriously think you can win this argument? You are probably certifiably insane, but I will go ahead and deliver the knockout punch. Again, since you seem to have missed it. You’re like that one guy who insists on biting my head off... if only you had any arms or legs to reach me with.
WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug!
Yes. It was about version 3.6. There was a vulnerability in 3.6. Germany advised against using that version.
And Mozilla released version 3.6.2. The bug is now patched. THE ARTICLE SAID THIS CLEARLY, if you could read.
OLD, OLD news!! and too, TOO easy. try again some other time, apk!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Wow, it made more sense than the original!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also
WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
We all know it’s you, apk.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
The very first sentence, in bold print, of the article, which I already quoted numerous times, read as follows:
Your absurd ignorance is revealed in your utterly hopeless confusion over versions “3.6” and “3.62” (it is actually 3.6.2). My mistake in quoting version 2.6.2 was simply a typo; I meant 3.6.2. The vulnerability was in version 3.6 and as was clearly stated in the summary:
— which, as was clearly stated in the article, already happened (not “later this month”) — again from TFA:
So you were fully wrong, and with the exception of my typo of 2.6.2 when I should have written 3.6.2, I am correct.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
No, Timothy the poster of this article on /. wrote it was about FF version 3.6, which had a bug (not 3.62, it didn't even EXIST @ the time of the writing of this headline here on /., in fact)
Now that’s funny! WRONG as usual, apk, but why am I not surprised?
But according to TFA:
So, let me recap:
3.62 - WRONG, no such version exists, it is 3.6.2 not 3.62;
did not exist at the time of posting - WRONG, TFA clearly stated that it was already available for download
I NEVER said 2.62; I incorrectly said 2.6.2 (WITH THE EXTRA POINT IN IT, do you need stronger glasses?) which was an honest mistake on my part, merely a typo. I meant version 3.6.2 (WITH THE EXTRA POINT IN IT, do you need stronger glasses?).
LOLOLOL, apk ... wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong some more! As usual, but keep trying (I suspect you will!).
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
We all know it’s you, APK.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Stop trolling yourself, apk. It’s pathetic.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Total score of my recent posting history: 62 points
Total score of your replies to those same posts: -7
LOL, so who’s winning, hmm troll?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
What explains your moronic insistence that Firefox version 3.62 even exists? Hmm? It’s 3.6.2, dumbass.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
My karma and the moderation on my posts proves that you’re full of shit, you shitty 60-something year old troll who still lives with his mommy and makes all sorts of money on his shitty software that looks like something a 12-year old wrote.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, did I?
Frankly it’s impossible to argue with someone who can’t read and whose entire argument entails screaming louder than the person he’s arguing with in mammoth copypasta posts full of gibberish that is semi-related at best to the topic at hand and that only after he has changed the subject away from his previous errors.
But it’s sure fun to keep poking him and watch the gibberish that spews.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
I never said “2.62”. You are the one making HUGE errors, LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
ANYONE can do it?? NOT SO EASY, apparently, if YOU cannot do it! LOL
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
I never said that. You are a moron. But I wouldn’t expect much more from you... lies, false information, and retarded arguments that are repeated over and over after they are proved to be faulty.
You also stated you got your information from a "SECURITY COMPANY", about Opera - but, lol, that doesn't look like a security company's site to me. It looks like Opera's site in fact
My quote from the security company was elsewhere. I dare you to find it! Since you are so good at saying what I did and didn’t say, that should be an easy task for you...
getting a bit "rattled in your game", or are you just one of those illiterate "10 below plantlife IQ" types?
No, that’s YOU, LOL... keep trying, apk!!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Wow, are you really that stupid? I just said I quoted the security company elsewhere. Go find it, LOL! Since you are the expert on what I said.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Apparently mods don’t make a big issue over a single accidental typo. But comparing my single typo to your constant trolling and bad karma (you won’t even register an account, because you hit bad karma so quickly... as you have done in the past)? LOL! Good try, apk, really good try!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
No, I got a recent quote from a security/tech website about OPERA VERSION 10.50 in which they recommended NOT USING IT. I posted it elsewhere in the discussion on this very article, now since you’re so good at mis-quoting me you can see if you can find it.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Fine, since you’re such an incompetent idiot that you can’t seem to find a post that I posted IN RESPONSE TO YOUR POST, which you OBVIOUSLY DID NOT READ... LOL, and you are still trying to argue with me after CLEARLY NOT READING what I have posted? And you accused ME of skimming and lying! LOL!
Here is the link to the post that you failed to find:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, I wanted to make sure to give you plenty of fair opportunity to find it (because I know you’ll try to wiggle out of this UTTER FAILURE and BEING COMPLETELY WRONG! rofl). But here is the link, since you cannot even do a simple “Search” to find a link on a page.
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Right... you and apk are two different people and both of you are morons who think that Firefox 3.6.2 is actually called “3.62”. Because normal people think that 62 and 6.2 are the same thing, I guess!
LOL, you’ve been called out on your stupid error, apk... 3.62 indeed, there is no such version and you are the only one who has been saying that!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I said that ONCE, lol, and it was a TYPO (do you know the meaning of the word?). So how many times did you (intentionally) type 62 when you should have been typing 6.2 (I NEVER made this mistake, it’s all on you! LOL)
AND THE FACT THAT OPERA ALREADY HAD versions 10.51 & 10.52 builds out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot
LOL, and THE FACT THAT FIREFOX ALREADY HAD version 3.6.2 out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot as well? STALE & OUT OF DATE - period! keep trying, apk!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!
Yes, that’s right, as quoted on MANY sources:
http://www.spywaredb.com/remove-apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine/
http://www.pestpatrol.com/zks/pestinfo/a/apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.asp
http://www.spycheck.co.uk/genera.php?processfile=apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe&dir=a&pag=50
http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=51276 ...& many, MANY more!! LOL
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, no YOU learn to read, as if the summary on Slashdot is never wrong? Check the dates on the articles!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, I love the way you completely dropped the false identity when I called you out on your bullshit! By the way, did you know that using a fraudulent identity online is now a CRIME in the United States? Haha!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)
Once again, you’re lying, LOL! Show me some proof... oh wait, you can’t, because you’re LYING.
This from a known spyware author as well... well of course we expect you to lie, apk! as you said, “too, Too, TOO EASY”
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Haha, I don’t believe for a SINGLE SECOND that you talked to an attorney about anything. Not for a single second. Feel free to try to prove it, though, I suppose you could scan something on official letterhead and post a link. Except you can’t, because it doesn’t exist. LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
The summary was wrong, dumbass. Check the date. If Timothy wrote that (it may have been in the original story submission for all I know) it was after 3.6.2 was ALREADY released... old, OLD news!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
More lies from the spyware author, LOL!! Read your own quote, I’ll repeat it for you:
Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
But the 3.6.2 update was ALREADY released WELL BEFORE the story was posted (Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM Eastern): https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2010/03/22/firefox-3-6-2-update-now-available-as-free-download/
Version 3.6.2 was released THE DAY BEFORE this story even posted! Once again you are caught in your BOLD-FACED LIES, LOL!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Why don’t you contact Slashdot, I’m sure they’ll be happy to reveal my IP to a known spyware author and troll so that you can sue me. I’m eagerly awaiting a letter from your lawyer!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, I find it hilarious that the SPYWARE AUTHOR is accusing me of libel! I didn’t call you ANYTHING, I’m just QUOTING many sources as I described above, which call your shitty software suite (or should I call it a “software shite”, LOL) “spyware” and say that it should be UNINSTALLED — despite your claims that it has been proven not to be spyware and that CA now finds it to have NO THREAT LEVELS (which is FALSE, as I quoted, their website STILL lists it as a THREAT! http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=51276 ... right there! I suggest you contact them again, LOL)... just more lies from the spyware author, but what do we expect? Too, too predictable.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, no; YOU take it up with Timothy, since YOU are the one who is claiming his incorrect quote is accurate! It’s not like this is the first time that a Slashdot summary is wrong. But YOU claimed that it was 100% accurate without checking up the sources, LOL, and now you are trying to blame it on Timothy when YOU WERE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG? LOL
The very first reply after this article was published actually said 3.6.2 was released, in fact, and it was posted ONE MINUTE AFTER the article was posted... so no excuses on your part, if you DIDN’T EVEN READ the VERY FIRST POST, lol.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, changing the subject after you were proved wrong... classic, classic apk! I never said that Opera 10.51 was not out, in fact I even said it in my ORIGINAL POST, here: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542 - where I even said the following:
Of course Opera 10.51 has been released to patch it... just like Firefox 2.6.2 has been released to patch this one.
100% correct, of course: Opera 10.51 was released BEFORE the article was posted, AS FIREFOX 3.6.2 WAS ALSO POSTED BEFORE THIS ARTICLE WAS POSTED (not 2.6.2, as I made an innocent typo stating and have said multiple times that it should have read 3.6.2).
And you are STILL quoting the FALSE information which you attribute to Timothy AFTER I have CLEARLY showed that it is FALSE... LOL, just too, too easy to beat your ridiculous bullshit, apk.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
You’re still here? In case you didn’t already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot’s anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING).
That makes you a CRIMINAL and a HACKER who also writes SPYWARE.
Checking my posting history and posting harassing comments on completely unrelated posts of mine also constitutes CYBER STALKING and HARASSMENT. Stop.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
You are still stalking me (cyber stalking / harassment as I already stated) via my profile. I said stop.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
If you are accusing me of libel, you already have all of the evidence you need. However I suggest that you look up the definition of “libel” before making a fool of yourself further; statements made in good faith and reasonably believed to be true are NOT libelous.
I eagerly await the letter from your fictional attorney. Will it be written in invisible ink?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I’m not reluctant to answer your question, dumbass. I already answered it and I’m not going to repeat myself. But here is a link, if you have forgotten: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31743416
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I’m not afraid of you. I’m not refusing to answer your question. You can clearly see the answer to your question here: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31735632, “very bold claims for someone who writes SPYWARE” — followed by many credible sources which state that very FACT, so of course you cannot accuse ME of libeling you, as that is to the best of my knowledge and in good faith a FACT, and so CANNOT be libel! But of course any real lawyer could have told you this; I suggest you fire your imaginary lawyer, he isn’t worth the imaginary money you pay him.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
As I said, I welcome a letter from your attorney. You, on the other hand, are a moron and I have no wish to continue arguing with someone as incoherent and stupid as you.
I have shown, to any reasonable person’s satisfaction, credible sources stating that your shitware is in fact malicious software of some sort. For instance:
That said, and I being a reasonable person, I have concluded from the previous quotes that your stupid software is malware.
If you have any further complaints, take it up with the websites I quoted, and if you still believe that I have libeled you, feel free to have your imaginary lawyers file an imaginary lawsuit for the imaginary defamation.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
It is clear, at this point, that all of your blustering bravado about my “libel” is nothing more than you tooting your horn and flashing your lights.
I have no more desire to correspond with you personally. As I said, have your lawyer track me down and file something formally if you think you have a case against me. My prediction? You won’t, and you don’t even have an attorney, nor will you get one. You’re full of shit.
I also advise you to cease the cyber-stalking and harassment, which is a serious crime in the United States.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Stop harassing me. If you have a problem with me, I suggest you hire an attorney, but if you choose to continue to harass me I will be forced to pursue my legal options.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
So... you are not going to sue me, and never intended to. You’re just harassing me with threats of legal action that you fully intend not to carry out.
Yeah, that’s what I thought all along...
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Actions speak louder than words, apk, and I notice that you’ve stopped stalking me via my profile here and posting harassing, off-topic replies in response to all of my comments (just as I demanded, and as the law backs me up, you had to).
Apparently you do have some regard for the law, or are afraid of getting caught breaking it anyway.
As far as suing me? Go right ahead. You have no case.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
lol at this conversation
I bet APK could go on forever with this. He has been arguing with himself over 6 years on this articles comments, for over 215 pages.