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SpaceX Successfully Launches Falcon 9 Rocket

leetrout writes "SpaceX has successfully launched a two-stage rocket, the Falcon 9, into Earth orbit from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. 'Liftoff came after hours of delay, sparked initially by launchpad telemetry problems, then by a sailboat that strayed into a restricted area of the launch range. The day's first countdown was aborted at virtually the last second, due to a problem with the engine parameters, but the launch software was adjusted and a second countdown went all the way to the end.'" Update: 06/04 20:16 GMT by S : Reader mrcaseyj points out Spaceflight Now's coverage, which includes a number of pictures from the launch.

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  1. Cool by caywen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good news for Obama and his vision for private industry servicing the ISS. Hopefully they won't delay their first ISS mission until 2011.

    1. Re:Cool by hardburn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't want to hear anymore about Obama and his socialist plan to move space launching into the hands of private enterprise.

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    2. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whoosh!

      That wasn't a rocket...

    3. Re:Cool by Jeng · · Score: 4, Funny

      [ ] you know what "sarcasm" means
      [x] you don't

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    4. Re:Cool by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      [ ] You got the joke.
      [x] Whoosh!

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    5. Re:Cool by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's why Hitler and Stalin were so so gay for each other.

      I thought it was their mutual love of mustaches.

      Indeed. In fact, the real reason Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 was because he could no longer contain his jealousy over Stalin's thick luxurious mustache which was so much nicer than his own. If only Rogaine had been available millions of lives could have been saved.

    6. Re:Cool by nofx_3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      They have a capsule tech called Dragon that can hold 7 crew. They actually had a dummy Dragon capsule at the top of the Falcon 9 launched today. I think the life support stuff is still a ways off, but they should be capable of launching crewed missions a few years into the future.

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    7. Re:Cool by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's only because he knows that private enterprise will be more efficient in eventually allowing humans to travel to his real birthplace!

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    8. Re:Cool by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They called it National Socialism for a reason!

      Probably for similar reasons why North Korea calls itself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

    9. Re:Cool by St.Creed · · Score: 4, Funny

      They called it National Socialism for a reason!

      Probably for similar reasons why North Korea calls itself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

      I knew it! Damn democrats!

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    10. Re:Cool by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There have been suggestions that it could be as little as two years off, except that the emergency systems (particularly the ejection mechanism) might not make that mark. As can be seen by the recent delays for the Falcon 9 largely because the flight termination system was awaiting certification, seemingly minor things can lengthen things dramatically.

      I think two years is incredibly optimistic, but I would love for SpaceX to prove me wrong.

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    11. Re:Cool by CompressedAir · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1. Correct.
      2. Just fine. :+D

      The CRS flights are just one more piece to the puzzle. In the post Shuttle world, we'll have Soyuz, Progress, ATV, HTV, Orbital, and SpaceX. The SpaceX vehicle gives us back a large downmass capability which is going away when the Shuttle retires. Upmass we got, downmass not so much.

    12. Re:Cool by the_other_chewey · · Score: 3, Funny

      they should be capable of launching crewed missions a few years into the future.

      Woah, time travel too? I had no idea!
      Can they get them back to the present?

    13. Re:Cool by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      But. But.If it's a dummy capsule then why can't we ...

      Oh nevermind, we'd never get enough politicians in the thing to make it worthwhile.

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    14. Re:Cool by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      But. But.If it's a dummy capsule then why can't we ...

      Hehe


      Oh nevermind, we'd never get enough politicians in the thing to make it worthwhile.

      You might call 7 politicians launched into space not worthwhile, but I call it a start. ;)

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    15. Re:Cool by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is good news. This also points out some of the inconsistencies in politics. Apparently it's okay to privatize space flight but not health care and social security etc...

    16. Re:Cool by osu-neko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is good news. This also points out some of the inconsistencies in politics. Apparently it's okay to privatize space flight but not health care and social security etc...

      Yes. Reminds me of those inconsistent builds who use hammers on nails but not on screws. Some silly people seem to think you shouldn't use the same tool to solve every problem.

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  2. Most important launch in decades by mrcaseyj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What makes this one of the most important rocket launches in history is that, unlike at other rocket companies, the founder, Elon Musk, is determined to make a reusable rocket. The first stage of this rocket has been fitted with parachutes and covered with cork to protect it from the heat of reentry so that it can be recovered and studied in hopes of making them reusable in the future. The success of this launch solidifies the success of Spacex, and thereby dramaitcally increases the chances of huge benefits to humanity from much more affordable space launch. Also, the other rocket companies are probably very worried about losing all their business to Spacex now.

    1. Re:Most important launch in decades by Monkey_Genius · · Score: 5, Informative

      Only the engine cluster is designed to be 'reusable' -it separates from the first stage fuel tank after booster separation. The cork material is thermal insulation for the cryogenic LOX used in the first stage.

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    2. Re:Most important launch in decades by mrcaseyj · · Score: 4, Informative

      The cork is for protection during reentry. From the Spacex updates page:

      It is important to emphasize that the cork is not needed for ascent and there is no risk to flight even if it all came off. This is for thermal protection on reentry to allow for the possibility of recovery and reuse. While stage recovery is not a primary mission objective on this inaugural launch, it is part of our long-term plans, and we will attempt to recover the first stage on this initial Falcon 9 flight.

    3. Re:Most important launch in decades by mrcaseyj · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also on the Spacex updates page you can see the parachutes mounted in the interstage, implying that the entire first stage will be parachuted down. I would think the engine cluster would sink without the fuel tanks for buoyancy.

    4. Re:Most important launch in decades by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since 1957, you Space Nutters have had FIVE decades to show us these "benefits". Besides stoking the imagination of dreamers and deluded petulant children like GameboyRMH, there's precious little it has accomplished. Does it make clothes? Food? Materials?

      Look at that thing that's attached to your keyboard and mouse. The computer. The impetus for it's development was space. ICBMs can't fly in the atmosphere - they go into space. The little computers in your car that do everything from running the engine to your mp3 player? An offshoot. The ceramics that make the light turbines possible? Ditto. Better methods to monitor patients? Better ways to test materials? Better ways to model materials?

      The space race did three things

      1. it gave us a different "war" instead of fighting each other on the ground - a race in space.
      2. it gave us a different way to look at ourselves and our planet. That picture from the moon's surface makes it different. We're all in it together.
      3. it forced us to miniaturize, harden, and perfect computers and electronics for harsh environments. Your home computer gets the benefits. Transistors are now much cheaper than even staples.

      And this is all in addition to the benefit of now being able to say: Nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure!

    5. Re:Most important launch in decades by fredmosby · · Score: 2, Informative

      But most of the cost of solid rocket motors is the fuel, so making them reusable doesn't save much on launch costs. This would be a reusable liquid fueled rocket, where most of the cost is the rocket motors.

    6. Re:Most important launch in decades by 0123456 · · Score: 2, Informative

      But most of the cost of solid rocket motors is the fuel, so making them reusable doesn't save much on launch costs.

      From what I remember, NASA would probably save money if they stopped recovering the SRBs and just built new ones each time. They're basically just big metal tubes which require a lot of refurbishing before they're ready to fly again, so there's a substantial cost to reusing them.

    7. Re:Most important launch in decades by 680x0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      ATK's Rockets that are used for shuttle launches are called "Reusable Solid Rocket Motors"

      Kind of an oxymoron there considering they are lost into the ocean and gone forever - reusable?

      See this page for pictures of NASA ships doing the impossible: towing recovered solid rocket boosters back to Kennedy Space Center.

  3. Very exciting by PeterBrett · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm making a note here -- huge success!

    Hopefully this will reinvigorate the US market for launch vehicles. The satellite-manufacturing spin-off company of the research centre where I work currently launches most if not all of its payloads on decommissioned Russian ICBMs. I hope that in a couple of years, SpaceX's stable of launchers will be a practical and economical alternative!

    1. Re:Very exciting by Speare · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm making a note here -- huge success!

      ... Even though you broke my heart, And killed me. And tore me to pieces. And threw every piece into a fire. As they burned it hurt because I was so happy for you!

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  4. Does the last Atlantis pilot read /. ? by nullchar · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Associated Press quoted the pilot of the shuttle Atlantis' last scheduled flight, Dominic Antonelli, as saying he was impressed by the Falcon 9 and would gladly climb aboard if and when the time comes.

    "Yes, absolutely. But I'm not that picky. I think I'd probably climb on just about anything," he said last month.

    I figure we slashdotters would climb on just about anything too...

  5. Giant wasp from outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I laughed at the feeble attempts of the giant alien wasp to stop the launch at T -5 or so. Was that you, K'breel, or one of your minions?

  6. Re:Video? by Afforess · · Score: 3, Informative

    The video for the launch is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP5gykvTBpM

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  7. Impressive recovery by hcdejong · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Earlier today they had a launch abort at T -0:00:00. I happened to watch the webcast on the SpaceX site; the countdown got to zero and my impression was that ignition was underway when the launch was aborted.

    Had they used solid rockets, they'd have been SOL at this late stage.

    Also, finding the cause and then being able to launch inside 1.5 hours is rather quick. ISTR early Shuttle launches where the slightest setback resulted in putting the clock back to T -12h.

    And was the countdown off, or was the webcast not properly synchronized? I saw liftoff taking place at T -0:00:02.

    1. Re:Impressive recovery by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To be fair, comparing reboot on the shuttle to this is a little unfair, since STS launched for the first time with people on board. Nonetheless, quite impressive.

      As far as the liftoff occurring early -- I see it too. The stream was laggy, so that could be it, but it also seemed like the engines were running rather hot (second stage engine cutoff was early but it nailed its target orbit), so it could be that the sensors detected that it was dangerous to continue to hold it down and let go early.

    2. Re:Impressive recovery by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      STS was designed with a lot of astronaut input, and it was designed so you had to have people on board -- landing gear could not be controlled automatically. Astronauts want nothing more than to keep flying, and to feel like they're pilots and not cargo. Having a spacecraft be designed by the military test-pilot variety of astronaut is often just asking for trouble.

      Amusingly, John Young, the commander for STS-1 has recently said that it was foolish to be on that flight.

    3. Re:Impressive recovery by AaronLawrence · · Score: 2, Insightful

      BUt obviously, out of the thousands of things that could go wrong it was silly to claim the landing gear as the only thing that needed manual control.
      They just wanted to fly spacecraft...

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  8. Re:Cool. by mbkennel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not the elimination of the NASA manned rocket program. It's about the descoping of the poorly conceived and poorly executed NASA manned rocket design and manufacturing program; whose significant purpose was employment in Alabama congressional districts. A private contractor will not decide on the mission goals or the payload. One can have robust manned space program without designing the rockets.

    In 1965 NASA had to design and build its own microcomputers. NASA does not do so any more; astronauts use standard laptop computers on the ISS.

  9. Utterly useless cheering by NervousWreck · · Score: 2, Informative

    WHOOHOO YEAH!!!!

    (maybe the NASA cuts won't eviscerate spaceflight after all)

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    1. Re:Utterly useless cheering by Narishma · · Score: 3, Informative

      What cuts? I thought Obama increased NASA's budget? Did I miss something?

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  10. Shoes for Industry! by Baldrson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Necessity and Incentives Opening the Space Frontier

    Testimony before the House Subcommittee on Space

    by James Bowery, Chairman

    Coalition for Science and Commerce

    July 31, 1991

    Mr. Chairman and Distinguished Members of the Subcommittee:

    I am James Bowery, Chairman of the Coalition for Science and Commerce. We greatly appreciate the opportunity to address the subcommittee on the critical and historic topic of commercial incentives to open the space frontier.

    The Coalition for Science and Commerce is a grassroots network of citizen activists supporting greater public funding for diversified scientific research and greater private funding for proprietary technology and services. We believe these are mutually reinforcing policies which have been violated to the detriment of civilization. We believe in the constitutional provision of patents of invention and that the principles of free enterprise pertain to intellectual property. We therefore see technology development as a private sector responsibility. We also recognize that scientific knowledge is our common heritage and is therefore a proper function of government. We oppose government programs that remove procurement authority from scientists, supposedly in service of them. Rather we support the inclusion, on a per-grant basis, of all funding needed to purchase the use of needed goods and services, thereby creating a scientist-driven market for commercial high technology and services. We also oppose government subsidy of technology development. Rather we support legislation and policies that motivate the intelligent investment of private risk capital in the creation of commercially viable intellectual property.

    In 1990, after a 3 year effort with Congressman Ron Packard (CA) and a bipartisan team of Congressional leaders, we succeeded in passing the Launch Services Purchase Act of 1990, a law which requires NASA to procure launch services in a commercially reasonable manner from the private sector. The lobbying effort for this legislation came totally from taxpaying citizens acting in their home districts without a direct financial stake -- the kind of political intended by our country's founders, but now rarely seen in America.

    We ask citizens who work with us for the most valuable thing they can contribute: The voluntary and targeted investment of time, energy and resources in specific issues and positions which they support as taxpaying citizens of the United States. There is no collective action, no slush-fund and no bureaucracy within the Coalition: Only citizens encouraging each other to make the necessary sacrifices to participate in the political process, which is their birthright and duty as Americans. We are working to give interested taxpayers a voice that can be heard above the din of lobbyists who seek ever increasing government funding for their clients.

    Introduction

    Americans need a frontier, not a program.

    Incentives open frontiers, not plans.

    If this Subcommittee hears no other message through the barrage of studies, projections and policy recommendations, it must hear this message. A reformed space policy focused on opening the space frontier through commercial incentives will make all the difference to our future as a world, a nation and as individuals.

    Americans Need a Frontier

    When Neil Armstrong stepped foot on the moon, we won the "space race" against the Soviets and entered two decades of diminished expectations.

    The Apollo program elicited something deep within Americans. Something almost primal. Apollo was President Kennedy's "New Frontier." But when Americans found it was terminated as nothing more than a Cold War contest, we felt betrayed in ways we are still unable to articulate -- betrayed right down to our pioneering souls. The result is that Americans will never again truly believe i

  11. Excellent! by ZonkerWilliam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well done Elon, Here's hoping you can stay afloat a little longer to get us back into space!

  12. Re:Cool. by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

    Huh?
    No one wants to killed manned NASA flights, just the boondoggle that is their latest vehicle project. It only serves to keep shuttle makers in business.

  13. Odd-looking roll by david.given · · Score: 3, Insightful

    During the second stage burn, the vehicle appeared to start to rotate, gradually accelerating as the burn continued. Does anyone know if this was part of the planned ascent profile, or something gone wrong?

    It's hard to tell due to the angle of the rocketcam camera, but it didn't appear to be rolling around the vehicle's axis --- which makes it more of a tumble. OTOH, that might have been an optical illusion. I gather that the Dragon demonstrator that was being launched didn't have any propulsion, so this could have been planned to spin-stabilise it, but... it did look odd.

    I don't want to put any dampeners on the launch, though. For a first launch of a prototype rocket, it's still a fantastic achievement to get to orbit first time.

    1. Re:Odd-looking roll by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 2, Informative

      Considering how well they hit their orbit, and that they hit it early (engine appeared to cut-off before the official time), it had to be an on-axis roll. Otherwise they would have been wasting their thrust and would have taken longer to achieve the desired orbit.

      I'd guess that it was something expected but not necessarily on purpose.

    2. Re:Odd-looking roll by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Informative

      From Elon Musk's press telecon, as transcribed by flatoday.net:

      "We achieved a "near bulls-eye" on the orbit. There was a little more roll than was expected. It didn't affect the mission. It is something to be investigated and refined. We're very happy with the second stage performance."

      This isn't a spin-stabilized spacecraft, so I'd call what I saw more than just a "little roll"... still, damned impressive that the launcher can make an orbital bullseye while having that much uncontrolled spin.

  14. The other billionaires are the crazy ones. by mosb1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, the crazy ones are the ones who hold on to their wealth. Money is for spending, it has no other worthwhile purpose.

    1. Re:The other billionaires are the crazy ones. by mosb1000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But if you invest your money only to keep it, you haven't spent it. Most billionaires have their money in these kind of investments (real estate, stocks, bonds, things like that). Using the money to start a technology company, on the other hand, is spending it. I approve. I think everyone should spend all their money this way (you know, to the extant it's possible I mean, obviously you have to buy food and other essential things).

      Anyway, just to elaborate on my earlier point: Most people don't make these kind of risky investments because they are afraid to lose their money. They have failed to realize that money has no intrinsic value and is only good for spending. It's crazy to get caught up worrying about money, and yet most people seem to think the opposite (especially in the US).

    2. Re:The other billionaires are the crazy ones. by mosb1000 · · Score: 2

      There's nothing more depressing than a child spending money he didn't earn.

  15. Re:Cool. by timeOday · · Score: 4, Informative
    Put another way, when was Ares' first orbit?

    The article says SpaceX got $278 million from NASA to develop the rocket. Apparently we spent $1.500 billion on Ares in FY10 alone, and spent $445 million on a single sub-orbital test flight for Ares in '09.

  16. Obviously by SnarfQuest · · Score: 3, Funny

    This just proves how far CGI has gotten. They've been able to shut down the California sound stage.

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  17. Nice pictures by solid_liq · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For such an expensive rocket launch, you'd think they'd at least have a professional photographer with professional lenses. Those pictures are terrible. Look at the flames; there's no detail. They obviously used cheap lenses. I'm an amateur photographer, but I have professional equipment because I'm too picky to have my pictures look as bad as their launch pictures do. I'm glad the launch succeeded, but you'd think they'd want better pictures for examining the launch and for PR.

  18. Re:Soyuz versus Dragon Payload? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So at $55M a pop, this could really be disruptive to the whole space industry.

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  19. Re:Soyuz versus Dragon Payload? by holmstar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that spacex already has something like 30 payloads booked for future flights. Maybe those aren't firm contracts, but it doesn't sound like they are having any trouble with demand.