iPhone DSLR Prototype 1.0
An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt: "Here are Photos/Pictures of my iPhone DSLR Prototype 1.0. This is my first attempt at putting together an iPhone DSLR. You might ask 'Why pair an iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, or iPhone 4 with a DSLR lens?' Why not!" Prototype or not, it's a cool project.
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So, where are the goods? I mean, pics of an iPhone with a big lens strapped on are cool, I guess.... but I was kind of hoping for what the results of that unholy union are.
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The three pictures of the device (pics A thru C) look like blurry garbage. I hope this is by accident and not design.
http://iphonedslr.com.nyud.net/blog/archives/73fb
...But it doesn't seem to be working right either...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10409153-1.html
I'm kinda seconding the general thought everyone else is voicing. Disappointment over the lack of improvement. But I think with some more work, it could be made to do better.
Let's face the facts though - it's taped onto the phone.
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http://cow.mooh.org/2009/12/phone-o-scope-attaching-slr-lenses-to.html
DSLR does not mean "detachable lens". It means "Digital Single Lens Reflex", or "digital camera that uses a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dslr
In fact, it has nothing to do with detachable lenses. That is a completely different technology, which just happens to be commonly (but not universally) paired with (D)SLR hardware. Nor is the mechanical mirror or pentaprism contained in the lens. The SLR mechanism(s) are in the camera body, which clearly do not exist in the iPhone nor the mount that the phone and lens(es) are attached to.
What this device provides is simply detachable lenses for the iPhone camera system. Detachable lens camera systems have been available for non-SLR cameras for quite some time.
This horribly wrong use of technical terms really should not be showing up on the site that proclaims itself as "news for nerds, stuff that matters".
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The lens may be borrowed from a DSLR but what it makes is an EVIL camera. EVIL = Electronic Viewfinder, Interchangable Lens.
'Why pair an iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, or iPhone 4 with a DSLR lens?' Why not!"
Because it wouldn't take very good pictures.
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apparently this guy doesn't know what dslr means.
Seeing the tag cloud reminded me of those sites from the 90s that would put the whole dictionary into the bottom of their page black text on a black background to garner the most hits.
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Where's the pentaprism (you know, the part that actually makes it an SLR)?
Cheap solution if it works . The canon one is over $700.
here:
http://cow.mooh.org/2009/12/phone-o-scope-attaching-slr-lenses-to.html
This is just a bigger lens kludged onto an iPhone. Epic fail....
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This isn't even an SLR. You can't look directly through the lenses... it's still a point and shoot.
Also, you're still stuck with the shitty image sensor.... it's not like anyone is going to through an APS-C or even 4/3 image sensor in a cell phone any time soon.
Not sure if this is the same guy, but I found this article: http://hypebeast.com/2010/07/iphone-4-dslr-lens/
If you are going to do something like that, then do it all the way -- http://www.nikonusa.com/Assets/Camera-Lenses/2173_AF-S-NIKKOR-600mm-f-4G-ED-VR/Views/2173_AF-S-NIKKOR-600mm-f-4G-ED-VR_FRONT.png .
What a worthless post. As others have said, not only is this NOT a "DSLR" in any way shape or form, it's going to produce shit results. Just easier to take a snapshot with a iPhone and then add gaussian blur or such to get shallow DOF effect. Still, using iphone for anything other than just "I was here" snapshots is a major waste of effort.
It's not going to take any better pictures than any other camera using that lens. The advantage here is being able to view and edit the photos on the fly using the iphone screen and editing tools. Which is pretty cool, I guess -- personally I'd rather have an actual DSLR (which this is technically not) connected to an iPad so I can see the photos on a big screen and edit at will. But still a cool hack nonetheless.
People using DSLRs with crop sensors are already shitting their pants due to focal length multiplication. Seeing how small the iPhone sensor is, what will it turn a 35mm lens into? A tele?!
Moron, SLR requires that it has a few mirrors and some moving parts.
Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_single-lens_reflex_camera
And read it, not just look at the pictures. Nothing external to the camera that you can see has anything to do with SLR, its all internal mechanics and not the fact that you can screw on a different lens.
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Its Slashdot: news for nerds.
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I think sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads have a better chance of functioning than this thing.
This thing cannot work, unless they remove the iPhone's original lens, of which the article makes no mention. You simply cannot stack lenses like that. Compare it to what you see when you look (with your eye, which is a lens) through the rear of a lens. You see a round patch of light, not a whole view of the world. The iPhone would see the same thing. Also, if you _did_ remove the original lens, you'd end up with an enormous crop factor, turning every SLR lens into a very long tele. Try holding that steady with a mount like this. In short, I call shenanigans, get the brooms!
For the most part. His article clearly states even in the /. snippet "PAIRING an iphone with a DSLR lens." It doesn't say it turns the iphone into a SLR camera, and iphonedslr.com is a lot easier than iphonewithadslrlensbutnoprismpleasedontcrucifyme.com.
That said, I would think the addition of good optical zoom would be a boon for the iphone camera, as it would be for any non-SLR camera. It doesn't need to do your laundry while filing your taxes and walk the dog, it just needs to add something. The poster seems good natured and doesn't deserve such vitriol. And I don't know who the hell he is or even own an iphone as a disclaimer.
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and a review:
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I highly doubt an iPhone has the capacity to hold a Single-lens Reflex mechanical action, nor has anyone every designed one. Do people even know what SLR means?
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Put that together with a DSLR lens, and you’ve got a device that can shoot amazing images/video with SLR lenses
Seriously - after claiming you get amazing images or videos, why don't you show us some of them? I suspect they were bad (assuming the pictures are authentic). And no, 5 megapixels doesn't mean you get fantastic pictures. A lot more goes into amazing photographs than just megapixels.
He mentions adapters for lenses, but that's not even needed for the Canon lens he's using.
The only thing he's actually created is an utterly incorrect definition of DSLR.
Where are the pictures taken with this monstrosity?
Maybe there are none.
DSLR's are superior because, among other things, their sensors are larger, Over 1 sq cm. The lenses are built to provide images that cover that area. How does this adapter funnel that light into the little iPhone lens? Some fancy optics?
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"SLR" is the abbreviation of "Single Lens Reflex"; it's defined by a camera having a reflex mirror (go figure, huh?); the ability to change lenses has nothing to do with this definition.
With that out of the way, I feel compelled to point out that this adds a very small amount of functionality for the bulk. As any photographer knows, no phone will be able to work with depth of field because the sensor is too small. All you're getting is the ability to change focal lengths instead of walking 10 feet.
IAMANOTA camera buff, but even *I* know that is *NOT* an SLR.
SLR refers to the mechanism which allows yo to view the actual image which will be taken by the camera without any paralax effects.
Plus this is a shitty thing to do in the first place. Why would anyone want to spend a lot of money to take crappy photos with a crappy phone attached to a humungous lens?
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No, it's not a SLR. It might be single lens(well now, dual); but no reflexes.
As in *S*ingle *L*ens *R*eflex?
This is not a SLR.
This is no better than crappy point-and-shoot cameras with removable lenses. Even a low-end DSLR (such as the Canon Rebel) has a much bigger (and better) sensor, not counting the Reflex parts ...
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I did something similar once:
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/digital-discussion-q/171412-getting-most-my-camera.html
Wrong, wrong, wrong, and very wrong.
That is what is called an 'Lens'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photographic_lens
And he has attached the 'Lens' to a 'camera phone'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_phone
an SLR is a camera that has various mechanical moving parts, that allow you to split the same light that will be hitting the film or sensor, so that you can see this with your own eye, and then the millisecond you hit the shutter button, the Reflex mirror, jumps out of the way, and the shot is taken with almost the exact same light you where seeing that was sent to your eyes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-lens_reflex_camera
This is just a phone that might as well be taped to a large magnifying glass, there are no SLR parts in the lens of a SLR camera.
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Put a prime lens in front of another prime lens, and you lose the ability to focus to infinity. Great if you want a close-up of a ladybug, useless if you want a picture of someone standing twenty feet away.
-j
Anyone that owns an SLR or DSLR will tell you that you can put the biggest piece of fast glass on a crappy tiny sensor and you will get a big photo of what happens when you put a big piece of fast glass on a crappy tiny sensor.
I'll skip leaving a "this is not a DSLR" comment because that has already been covered.
While its interesting from the "can this be done?" standpoint, I see absolutely no practical reason for doing this. He's basically taking a point and shoot cellphone camera and putting another lens on it, and it gains nothing useful by doing so. The device is no longer pocketable, and the pictures certainly won't be as good as the DSLR the lens came from could produce. If you're going to lug something around that you can't stick in a pocket anyway, why not just lug around a good DSLR.
This is definitely something only a iPhone fanboy could get excited about.
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DSLR Lenses are designed for relatively large CCDs (up to 24 x 36mm for full frame cameras). The iPhone has a tiny CCD and needs a much shorter focal length to give you a normal field of view.
You would need an super wide angle lens to achieve normal viewing angles with this device. Any normal DSLR lens would just give you a super telephoto lens. This is already the case for consumer grade DSLRs where you often have a conversion factor of 1.6 or 1.5: A 50mm (normal) lens takes photos as a 75mm (light tele) on a 35mm film camera.
The smaller CCD effectively crops your image. This is cool if you're into wild-life photography and very cool as the image only sues the centre part of the image circle of the lens (for lenses that work with both half and full-frame cameras) because every lens degrades close to the edge of the field of view. However, if you need a 20mm wide angle lens you have to get a very expensive 14mm lens for the same effect.
I could give several reasons why not to convert your iPhone into a DSLR.
First reason - the iPhone camera has always sucked. I've had better quality from a parallel-port Logitech from the early 90s.
Second - no lens mount.
Third - no flash or ring-mounted flash? NO FLASH PERIOD BY ANY NAME?
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Yes, that's great. A bunch of guys that don't even know what DSLR means, will build an iPhone DSLR.
From Wikipedia:
"A digital single-lens reflex camera (digital SLR or DSLR) is a digital camera that uses a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera."
I could also build a pair of eyeglasses with DSLR mounts, but that wouldn't make me the Human DSLR Prototype. Well, unless I put a mirror system or pentaprism in my head.
Apart from the fact the focal plane distance and distortion due to other lens elements in the existing iPhone lens package screw up this idea...the builder also picked a Canon EF lens, which by default, unpowered is left at full aperture. Canon EF lenses stop down on command through the serial port in the EF interface. If this guy had actually managed to interface the EF mount electronically to the iPhone's camera subsystem...well, that would be pretty cool.
A better choice would have been to use an older Nikon (or M42, or K-mount) which has a manual aperture ring on the rear.
My guess is this setup would yield very narrow field of view (due to the smaller sensor and longer focal length), a fair amount of distortion and probably a lack of infinity focus (due to the distance extended from the existing lens groups--I would assume this is like using an extension tube).
Quoting The Not So Fine Blog...
I created this blog to document the steps I'm taking in making an iPhone DSLR.
The honest truth is, I really dont know anything about DSLRs aside from the fact that you press the button and it snaps the picture.
So whether the feat is actually possible or not, I'm in to to find out.
Also:
Now by no means would I consider myself a professional photographer.
Heck... I am by would I even consider myself an amateur photographer.
The truth is I really know nothing about photography.
Before starting this endeavor the most I knew about cameras was that you push the button and it takes a picture.
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"Dual lens reflex" means something different -- some old cameras have two identical lenses mounted near each other. You look through one and shoot through the other, with no movable flippy-mirror.
He just bought the ready-made parts and put them together.
http://iphonedslr.com/blog/archives/14fb
DSLR Lens Mount
Posted on June 28, 2010 by Jeremy Salvador
Canon Extension Tube
Canon Extension Tube
I have Canon EF lenses and have been looking for a mount so the iPhone DSLR can easily interchange the lenses. So far all the products I've looked at are fairly expensive (in the $100-$200) range.
Then I stumbled upon the Canon Extension Tube. ($8.78) from SunTek.
This tube ring mount is generally used for macro shots and can fit all Canon EOS DSLR / SLR Camera EF lenses.
The Package Includes:
Canon Lens Mount Adapter Ring
Canon Lens Mount Adapter Ring
(1) Camera body mount adapter
(1) 9mm tube (Tube 1)
(1) 16mm tube (Tube 2)
(1) 30mm tube (Tube 3)
and most importantly! (1) Lens mount adapter
The Canon EF Lens Mount Adapter will allow lenses to be easily interchanged from the iPhone DSLR.
Now to figure out how to attach this thing to the iPhone.
And here is how - you buy an Owle:
http://iphonedslr.com/blog/archives/33fb
Owle Bubo
Posted on July 6, 2010 by Jeremy Salvador
The Owle Bubo is one of the most impressive iPhone accessories I've ever seen and I think it's going to be perfect as a housing for my iPhone DSLR. It's a camera mount that brings the best features of a camcorder to the iPhone 3GS: stability, optics, microphones and tripods!
The Owle Bubo is made of a solid piece of anodized billet aluminum making it extremely durable and virtually indestructible. This full aluminum frame gives the housing a good 1.1 lbs in weight giving the housing just enough weight to make keep the device steady. The two handle grips make it a real breeze to carry. Also the Owle provides 4 x 1/4-20 female threaded mounting holes so you can actually screw this thing into a standard tripod.
The Owle Bubo comes standard with 37mm lens threading, as well as a 0.45x wide angle/ macro lens combination. This is a real piece of optics, delivering stunning images with better color saturation, contrast and sharpness than is possible with the iPhone's camera alone. The wide angle lens accepts 49mm screw in filters. So with a 49mm-58mm step up ring, I'll be able to attach the Canon Lens Mount Adapter Ring to this housing.
Hopefully, Jeremy is something like 9 or 10.
Cause, a "grown person" doing something like this and calling it a "prototype" is like "creating" a portable laser printer by getting a really long power cord and some straps on ebay.
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make it to slashdot?
pasting from the site:
I created this blog to document the steps I'm taking in making an iPhone DSLR. The honest truth is, I really dont know anything about DSLRs aside from the fact that you press the button and it snaps the picture. So whether the feat is actually possible or not, I'm in to to find out.
..."cool" remains a very subjective term.
Just because it is an iPhone doesnt mean anything you do with it is cool.
Attaching a DSLR to an iPhone is pure stupid, just a way to attract attention to his insane project.
And this is not even DSLR!!!!!!!!!
You've spoilt the surprise 'iPhone DSLR with Macro!' story that was coming next!
Quite possibly, but at least I can take a cock in the ass while having reception on my phone! That's much better than taking a cock in the ass like iDiot iPhone users do while having no reception (unless they hold their phones with toaster tongs).
While the project is probably fun for anon, this setup misses pretty much all advantages of DLSR. To mention a few:
* Autofocus in most lenses
* Measuring focus before, on and after the plane of the sensor, making for even faster focus calculations
* Cleaner exposure with less movement artefacts due to mechanical shutter
* Less noise in the pictures because the sensor is not needed for viewfinding and thus does not heat up
* Large image sensor
And prolly a dozen I forgot about. You may now return to normal /. mode and continue discussing details without reading the article :p
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Kyle says:
July 16, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Stop wasting our time, retard apple fanboy.
From another post from the author:
"How naive I was to think that snapping all these pieces together would just work. I’m beginning to realize this is getting way over my head. More research is necessary to determine solutions to these problems."
http://iphonedslr.com/blog/archives/62fb
Timothy the Slashdot Editor> Prototype or not, it's a cool project.
A jet engine on a lawn mower does not make an F-16 fighter. Yes this is project is that stupid!
Scary that this dude is getting his Warhol 15 minutes at the wrong point in the project. Too bad.
iPhone's model is big enough ,still add accessories.
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At this point is seems to be an argument over semantics and SLR definition.
Even though I got moded underrated, I win; as I have have photographs taken with and SLR published in national publications and work as a professional photographer.
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