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To Ballmer, Grabbing iPad's Market Is 'Job One Urgency'
Barence writes "Microsoft's Steve Ballmer has vented his frustration at the success of the iPad and said developing a Windows alternative is 'job one urgency.' 'Apple has done an interesting job of putting together a synthesis and putting a product out, and in which they've... they sold certainly more than I'd like them to sell, let me just be clear about that,' Ballmer told analysts. The Microsoft boss said the company plans to deliver a range of tablet formats in the next year, some based on Intel's next-gen Oak Trail processor. 'It is job one urgency around here. Nobody is sleeping at the switch. And so we are working with those partners, not just to deliver something, but to deliver products that people really want to go buy.'" In Microsoft's vision, slates will run a derivative of Windows 7.
Shocking news. Microsoft exec upset by the success of a member of the competition.
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Once again, Microsoft is late to the party and Ballmer's pissed. Hey, Steve, your company has never been a trendsetter! Deal with it.
I'm no Apple fan, but a company that can create markets out of thin air for products everyone else assumed would fail has to be doing something right.
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The iPad is old news. Wired reported on the existence of the iPad way back in 1999. Why wasn't Microsoft working on their iPad-competior way back then? More importantly, why are they trying to play catch up now? Should they not be working on the next big thing?
I don't want a "range", developed with "partners". MS has repeated that mistake so often now, expecting different results every time. isn't there a witty saying that defines insanity this way?
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MS turned into a management (instead of developer) led company. They won't be creating anything other than me-too.
They killed the genuinely interesting-looking Courier before it ever got anywhere near production.
Can't think why the vultures are circling over Ballmer, can you?
This seems to be another "Johny come lately" attempt by Microsoft to catch up to Apple and Google. "Innovation" may be a big catchword these days by the large companies, but by making a competing project "job one urgency", it just underscore the fact that Microsoft is just trying to play a me-too game.
I don't mind if Microsoft does well or not, but why do they actively choose not to actually innovate? Do they not understand that the success of search engines, phones, tablets, and everything else that they've been late to the market on is because...well, because they're late to the market.
I simply don't understand why Microsoft doesn't get it. Innovating requires *new* ideas. Otherwise, they might as well be another Chinese second rate copy.
I own an iPad. It's nice for what it is, a media consumption device.
What amazes me though is the time it's taking for viable alternatives. It wasn't in any way a surprise that Apple launched this. It wasn't a surprise that this would be a new market segment - netbooks had already shown demand for lower cost highly portable computing devices.
I purchased the iPad for a specific function and it does its job well. However, I can see plenty of areas it could be improved. We're still waiting on multi-tasking. It has no camera a gaping hole in what would otherwise be a great device for grandparents to use for web/email and skype). No flash does limit some sites, and Safari is just okay, certainly not a great browser - you have to pay to get a browser that supports tabs!
The email client seems cumbersome, and from a business user perspective, Microsoft could really make a killing from a similar form factor but with outlook. Outlook is, after all, still king in the corporate world.
The competition needs to get in gear before the iPad becomes as entrenched as the iPod.
Apple's designs set the trend for knock-off electronics for years. How many phones since the iPhone have been made to "look like the iPhone?" How many MP3 players since the iPod? Now the tablet computer. Apple has a lot of weight on its shoulders because there's a giant knock-off industry just waiting to see what they'll do next.
To be fair, to the extent that "there's a giant knock-off industry" waiting to see what Apple does, Apple itself is a giant knock-off company.
How many smart phones and PDAs were around before the iPhone? How many MP3 players were around before the iPod?
Apple's successes in those areas are because they knocked off the previous products really well. The iPad is really the first arena they're entering where there really wasn't much of an existing market.
Because that's going to make far less money in the long run. And the reality is that if Apple wants to see Microsoft (one of their largest competitors) dead, they'd probably just not approve their apps anyways.
With garbage tablet PC's they're going to lose money, not make far less. And the reality is that Microsoft already has some free software out for the iPhone/iPod Touch (Windows Live Messenger, Bing, Tag Reader, Seadragon Mobile). Apple's not going to kill their apps. Having more apps available for the iPad increases it's perceived value to the consumer.
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>they sold certainly more than I'd like them to sell
Not "we'd like to sell more", not "we'd like to supply their software and participate in their success like we did with AppleSoft Basic and Mac Office".
This is competitiveness in its pathological form, where the point isn't to win but instead to make sure others lose.
I have never seen a research division that is so awesome and also, at the same time, seemingly at odds with their market strategies which are unimaginative and trivial sounding. I sincerely hope the rumors about Ballmer being on the way out, have some truth to them. At the same time, I also hope that the rumors about Ozzie leaving have no truth to them whatsoever.
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'Because that's going to make far less money in the long run.'
Is it? Microsoft has already basically conceded that Apple has won this round. As Apple very well knows from the early desktop days, once a competitor has a solid lead in the market share it is very, very difficult to get the market back. It seems like whatever Microsoft's offering for this market is, it's probably never going to be as popular as the iPad.
Software is supposed to be Microsoft's main business, not hardware. Producing quality apps for the iPad as well as for various other portable devices that hopefully *other* people make, but which run Windows, would be their best bet, money wise. I haven't been able to see why, for some time now, Microsoft won't just focus on producing good products in one area (software) rather than producing shitty products in lots of areas.
Microsoft, why don't you just write some QUALITY software for the iPad instead of trying to go head on in competition? That way, the more iPads Apple sells, the more software you sell. It's win-win.
But we, the consumers would lose. Without a healthy competition, there is no pressure to lower prices. And, there is no pressure to innovate on the existing iPad for Apple. So, yes, I would love to see many tablets - some with an Apple OS, some with Windows, and some with Android. What could be better than having the choice?
Microsoft, why don't you just write some QUALITY software
Because that goes against everything they stand for.
That way, the more iPads Apple sells, the more software you sell. It's win-win.
NO! There is no win-win: the other guy has to lose! They MUST lose! You're not a winner unless someone else is hurting.
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To be honest, they're better off buying HTC, or releasing their own version of an Android tablet. They're far less likely to fuck it up if they do that,
I disagree - in my opinion, they'd "Buy HTC" - move all the hardware to Windows mobile, and HTC will just be a memory.
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MS has not recently issued an new product. It's always me too.
Replace "recently" with "ever" and your sentence is fixed.
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As Apple very well knows from the early desktop days, once a competitor has a solid lead in the market share it is very, very difficult to get the market back.
Really? Ask Wordstar, Wordperfect, Lotus 1-2-3, dBaseIII, Netscape, and countless other companies what fat lot of good the early lead did for them?
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Um yeah, Apple totally ripped off the Rio. That's why the iPod looks nothing like it, behaves nothing like it and became the standard MP3 player.
And for the iPhone, it's obviously a total knock off of the Blackberry Storm / HTC Evo / Samsung Instinct / Palm Pre / LG Ally / etc / etc / etc, except they came out *after* the iPhone.
There already is a tablet computer market. And the iPad is nothing like any of them (or the UMPCs). I didn't say Apple *invented* these technologies, I said they set the design trend. Want to see what Windows 8 is going to look like? Wait to see what Apple announces for Mac OS 10.7.
Yeah, Apple would never just invents pretenses on which to reject applications from vendors which are major competitors with Apple in other markets from the App Store. Which is why you can buy the native Google Voice app that Google built for the iPhone in the App Store.
The iPad is fantastic for couch surfing. Watching TV, "Who's that actor?", grab the iPad, turn it on, hit the web browser, type the name--instant gratification. I can just see how well this is going to work with Windows 7...turn it on, wait, wait, MSpad wants to download update KB8675390, wait, reboot, wait, wait, dismiss the notification about unused desktop items, let the virus checker load an update, wait wait, wait, dismiss notification about network drives that couldn't be reconnected, wait, start web browser, wait, wait, wait....
Yeah, I really want the overhead of a major OS like Windows on my pad. Tards.
Excellent list. I'd offer one even more profound example. Apple. The Apple II (combined with VisiCalc) redefined the personal computer from hobbyist novelty to must-have business tool. If anyone has had a front-row seat to how the industry works, it's Apple.
Urgency is not going to produce a quality product. According to Jobs the iPad was in development before the iPhone, they have been waiting for technology to catch up the the design. They have spent serious time and money on both hardware and software design.
You don't turn around and make a high quality product in 6 months, sure you might already have the core of the OS ready to go, but to develop the UI and the applications and come up with a consistent user experience takes time and effort, lots of it. If MS rushes to release a tablet in 6 months it will not be good. It will not likely even be good enough. Sure the people who want to be different might buy it, much like they bought the zune, but making a quality, easy to use product does not happen overnight.
My professional career has been spent creating high end, end user software with a specialization in user interface design and development. Most developers consider this to be something that gets tacked on at the end but it is not and the iPad (and any competitor to the iPad) is more about the UI than anything else and trust me, the UI matters more to most users than just about anything else.
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Microsoft will be successful with it just like they were successful with netbooks. They came into the game late with an inferior product, but used their position to push the hardware manufacturers and retailers to sell XP netbooks instead of Linux netbooks.
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Is it just me, or does Ballmer sound lame, cliched, mealy-mouthed, and unprepared? I've heard more original and substantive comments in post-game locker room interviews of sports figures. Ballmer seems to be trying hard to convince HIMSELF, (never mind his audience), of Microsoft's continued relevance. If this is the best effort he can muster, then he needs to step down, for the good of the company. On the other hand, maybe he should stay. Right now, Ballmer could be the best friend that FOSS has!
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"In Microsoft's vision, slates will run a derivative of Windows 7."
and therein lies the problem.
SURELY NOT!!!!!
Even Gates wasn't fully on top of things BUT he was at least in the same ballpark.
Note that MS under Gates' watch had successful (and ruthless) business practices to make sure that MS made heaping tons of money, even without being a major market innovator. It was often easier to let others innovate, then use a combination of financial might, second-mover advantage, and sometimes a bit 'o market leverage to move in and take over.
I'm frankly a bit shocked at how much this news item echoes Ballmer's earlier pathetic whinging about iPod and then iPhone. It's unacceptable that a major corporate CEO should sound like such a broken record when the message being repeated is "failure!"
Quark lost to Adobe because of arrogance, poor customer service (remember Quark 5) and an expensive product. That's when I dumped them. They never rebounded.
Without a healthy competition, there is no pressure to lower prices.
Healthy competition? What healthy competition? It certainly won't be in the form of Micro-Soft's rush-job tablets.
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garbage tablet PC? you mean the ipad? that isn't a tablet pc at all. go on, try to install an arm binary on it and get it to run? how about sync it on a platform without iTunes? play videos, you knowns ones not out of quicktime(again not available on all platforms).. so yes, the iPad is a nice device, but a tablet PC it is not.
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Seriously, it's like kicking a hurt puppy or something.
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The problem is that a netbook interface is pretty much identical to a normal PCs interface, so Windows works "good enough" and is more familiar to most users. The traditional Windows paradigm does NOT work well in a touch-only, tablet interface. If they insist on using it, they will fail. It doesn't matter how much money they throw at it... look at the Zune.
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P.S. You use Gentoo. You're not the target market for an iPad. You're also one of these Apple-haters who obsesses over Steve Jobs and thinks he can hear you if you mention him by name.
Ballmer is dog barking at every truck that rolls by. He has no clue about the truck. He hears noise. He barks.
You have to stop with your 'Winner take all" mentality.
Apple is quite happy NOT making cars, GPS systems, kitchen cabinets or of being the sole provisioner of everything to everybody. (There is something very "Soviet Union" in that attitude.)
Apple makes cool products. Sometime those products USE computers to make them cool.
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