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400 Turns of Civilization V
Wes found a preview of one of the most anticipated upcoming releases by the inhabitants of my office: Civ V. It starts "This preview of Civilization V is incomplete. It takes more than nine Earth hours, you see, for the great Arabian empire — land of Mecca, Rio De Janeiro and Beijing — to assume dominance of the globe."
> It takes more than nine Earth hours, you see, for the great Arabian empire — land of Mecca, Rio De Janeiro and Beijing — to assume dominance of the globe.
Why do you hate the USA?
Stupid Roman numerals.
Time to say goodbye to the wife and kids...
...to tell my wife: "Just one more turn" 15 or 20 times in a row before...
...she just gives up and falls asleep.
Is everyone RTFA?
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
I'm actually looking forward to some of these changes now... paying upkeep for roads makes sense to me. They're more like interstate highways now, not the roads that go every-which-way. The new way to expand your cities and develop culture sound good, too.
Well, there goes part of my 2010 and all of my 2011... just need to get a machine that can handle 3D graphics to play it, now...
I had a long hiatus from Civ II to Civ IV, and when I finally tried the latter I found it dull. The updates don't seem to add anything interesting, and haven't been any more fun than the original, or FreeCiv.
Is there some reason we should expect more from V?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
"alternatehistory" - really?
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
But I always felt the need to conquer them two hours later.
... another installment of Civilazation. I already know I have the leadership skills of Dan Quayle. Do I have to be reminded again?
I love Civilization, but I always find that the "one true way" to play starts to bum me out and I end up not playing beyond the first couple of weeks. There's a great excitement in the discovery and exploration and surprise when you can meander through a game against real people. It's not quite the same when -- as is the case with Civilization -- the game becomes nothing but a competition to see who can speed through the spreadsheet containing the "one true path to victory" the fastest. The graphics become irrelevant and you may as well be sitting down to a multi-player spreadsheet.
I'll buy it. I'll enjoy it. I just won't enjoy it for months or years like so many of the hard core do. I wish someone would figure out the special key to keeping the excitement and exploration part of the game long into the game's cycle.
The nice thing about Civ4 and earlier was that the appearance of the land quickly and clearly conveyed information about what was there and its role in game terms. In an effort to make the landscape look more natural, I worry that this information might be more hidden. If so, that would be a bad decision.
I want to have sex with this game.
I want it to bear my kittens.
"The biggest change in Civ V is that the Civilization world is no longer sliced into squares. It is composed of hexagons."
This change is about 15 years late... but most welcome
He did say it was a small map on standard w/ Chieftain difficulty, and he was probably rushing so he could write up a review.
William of Ockham had no beard. The most likely explanation is that it was chewed off by squirrels every morning.
You had completely the wrong solution to this situation: Better would be to sell your Civ game to a jerk with higher grades than you for $45. Still cheaper than the full $50 for him, recovers your grades, ruins his, and means you only lost $5.
Oh, and if you play real life like you would Civ, then club him over the head and take the game back, then repeat the process with another person you don't like.
I am officially gone from
Wow, that was just like the comment you made on your last turn.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
And that he didn't actually finish in that time.
'Sensible' is a curse word.
Not only Civ V, but there's also Elemental War of Magic. I've been beta testing and it is great. So I'll have not one but TWO epic TBS games. I'll be lucky if I keep my job :D.
Huh? Civilization was never released on the C64. Perhaps you're confusing it with the Amiga version.
I don't necessarily disagree. But if the choice is between animated, flowing wheat fields in the farming squares, or a bigger game, I want the bigger game.
This is another case of not having to choose; let me play the big game, and if that becomes a five, ten minute turn compute-fest, let me turn off features I value less, such as terrain animation, in order to make that more practical.
Windows only at launch, OS X version may eventually be released at some point in the future. No Linux version mentioned.
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
Why do so many people insist on using the roman numerals in casual conversation? The creators use them in the official titles for media because it looks "prettier" on a box or a poster or a movie screen, but roman numerals are unarguably inferior for actual communication. There's a reason we ditched that system for general use and went with arabic numerals a long time ago.
What's especially vexing is people who abbreviate the title but still insist on using the roman numerals. FF XIII, DQ IX, Civ V. If you're _already_ trying to simplify the name then using arabic numerals will always be more clear and will often save space/characters as well. FF 13, DQ 9, Civ 5.
Making things more difficult for yourself and for everyone else reading whatever you have to say in the name of a cheap marketing gimmick is just dumb!
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I would mod you +IV Interesting.
Wow, you've even lost a vowel.
Developers: We can use your help.
A good Civ game gets in the way of life, sleep and work, not the other way around. A good session of Civ finishes with the guilty realisation that the sun isn't setting, it's rising.
And 9 hours is plenty of time to scratch the surface of a good Civ game, unless you spent it reading the manual (being the rare game where the manual is good reference, well written, and the size of a decent novel). Even a hardcore Civ player should be reading the pages where they explain what's new to the series.
It isn't. The GPU draws the wheat field, the CPU handles AI and such.
Anyway, I suspect that the 5000x3000 squares map you wanted would require making the game 64-bit. That's 15,000,000 squares; if you store just 287 bytes of info per square, you exhaust the memory space of 32-bit applications - and even that would require running on a 64-bit machine and having the proper executable flags set.
Once you have reasonably spaced cities, military units, resources, improvements, borders etc. on the map, that 287 bytes per square starts looking pretty small...
I remember each turn taking 15+ minutes with SimLife :). Someone really should make a modern version.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
Per the CivIV Complete box: 1.2 GHz Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon or equivalent, 512 MB RAM, 3.8 GB hard drive space, and DirectX 9.0c compatible 64 MB video card with Shader 1.1 support or better.
That would be Firefox.
You have to have a steam account to install it on your computer. Major turn off.
The funny thing is, most malware these days is designed to be stealthy. It mustn't slow down the system, or consume too many resources, otherwise it gets noticed too quickly and becomes useless after the next antivirus and antimalware definitions are released.
I'd like to bet most malware these days is a hell of a lot better designed than Firefox, in terms of CPU and memory usage. You might not like what they do, but you have to give the malware writers some credit for coding skills.
Civ 4 does too. Not until you've been playing a while it says 'Out of Memory' and dies.
Never happened to me. I play way too much and always on the Huge map size. And what's more its the OSX port, which you would have assumed would be buggier ... Hmm
What kind of DRM does it come with? I just don't buy games any more because of the hardcore DRM that messes with my computer. Furthermore, constant online checks are right out too as I do not have regular internet access. Further-furthermore, any DRM that says I can only install X number of times is so much not a consideration that I will forever blacklist any publisher or game series that has ever used it (Bye bye Rockstar and Grand Theft Auto, I used to love you.).
strike
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
Same here. Civ 4, biggest sized maps, often run it 6+ hours. On 2gig 32bit Vista.
I've had it crash once or twice, but never with it claiming it was running out of memory. I think all crashes have been me trying to Alt-Tab out and back in, in fact.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Reminds me of college.
One night I played Civ for like 9 hours while my neighbor got stoned on weed and watched...
You never saw someone more excited to watch someone else play Civ.
"WHOA! You like, totally kicked those Roman's asses!"