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The Advent of Religious Search Engines
Beetle B. writes "Do Google search results contradict your religious views? Tired of getting pornographic results and worried you'll burn in Hell for it? Are you Christian? Try SeekFind — 'a Colorado Springs-based Christian search engine that only returns results from websites that are consistent with the Bible.' Muslim? Look no further: I'm Halal. Jewish? Jewogle is for you. NPR ran a story on the general trend of search engines cropping up to cater to certain religious communities. I wonder how many other 'filtered' search engines exist out there to cater to various groups (religious or otherwise) — not counting specialized searches (torrents, etc)."
http://www.atheistsearch.net/
Search: creationism
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"Sorry Junior, you'll have to go to that blasphemous town library to research your report on dinosaurs, because in this household the Internet remains pure and as God intended!"
Just realised that this is a silly example anyway, as fanatical Christians wouldn't allow their kid to go to a school that was unholy enough to teach them about dinosaurs, the fossil record or how the we all evolved from a common ancestor with those damn dirty apes.
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How do I know that the search engine really is religious and doesn't just claim to be a true believer? Does the search engine go to church regularly? Does it pray? Is it baptized? :-)
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Now you can know all that you can see with a diminished field of view. Another way to look at how technology does not equate with 'progress'.
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Does the real world contradict your religious views? Tired of getting (insert taboo here) and worried you'll (moralising afterlife disincentive here)?
It's a born-again site! Don't follow that link, it's loaded with trojans^V^V^V^V^V^V^Vjesuses!
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you" (Matthew 7:7).
Due to extremely high traffic, the search index is intermittantly unavailable. We are working to have the problem fixed as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies.
The mission of SeekFind.org is to provide God-honoring, biblically-based, and theologically-sound Christian search engine results in a highly accurate and well-organized format.
There's a joke in there somewhere. Heck, there's such a plethora of jokes in there that I don't even know where to begin...
Oh, and for the record...Matthew would have used Google ;-)
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Jewogle just sounds weird. Jewgle sounds like google only with a soft g.
It's a funny idea, but I suspect it's pretty hard to customize the search for every kind of believer. Some Christians have far more extreme standards than others in what they consider appropriate, for example. And they have very different ideas on what's "consistent with the bible". I notice that this search engine only returns results from icr.org, cristiananswers.net, gotquestions.org and apologeticspress.org. Might be useful in some circumstances, I guess, but I think most Christians will just use Google for their regular search needs.
Like it happens with paper media, each consumer buying the paper that tunes with his ideas.
Provided we can maintain the option of Internet freedom (free form censorship and surveillance) for everyone, most people, even those who maintain a front to the contrary, will preferably use an uncensored search.
There have been "vertical search engines" that only search within particular fields for a very long time now -- everything from cars to plumbing. Not sure how newsworthy it is that there are also ones for Christian and Muslim theology. Rather useful if you're looking up material to help you write a sermon, bible study, or for use in your own bible reading. There are also religious bookshops, selling religious books. So what a surprise that if there's a lot of written material around, someone's made a search engine for it. In other shocking news, there is a search engine exclusively for knitting. Clearly its users must only believe in woollen dinosaurs!
they're using Church Engines?
there. i said it.
millions of people around the world are suffering because they don't have access to information that is freely available on the internet, and still there are idiots out there who want to have their search results filtered.
ok, you don't wanna see a naked lady by accident. I get it. there's tons of things on the internet that I personally don't want to ever see (and I would do my best to keep children from seeing them). but if you don't want to hear what people with other convictions have to say in reasonable scenarios, then I say you're an idiot.
go ahead. sick your gdodg on me.
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i'm pretty depressed after reading this story. i'll have to go have a smoke before i can get back to work....
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is there a search engine that returns JUST porn?
Guess I won't be able to find God after all.
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I don't know and neither do you.
Believe nothing, question everything.
There is no truth, only perception.
There is no such thing as infinity.
Organized religion is a bot-net.
You are responsible for your own actions.
There is no authority but yourself.
If you think otherwise, you've been hacked.
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Death to the fidels!
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Your comment is particularly nice because, of course, Alonzo Church collaborated with Alan Turing, and both of those atheists would have been equally horrified at yet another example of the way that some so-called Christians seek to exclude any information that is incompatible with their "truth".
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Bah, the search engine of a true believer would be to type in a random IP address and rely on the hand of God to ensure it's the very one you're looking for.
After all, were can a god fearing Muslim get a live feed from a mass rape for the sake of honor of an honorless people go? Youtube just doesn't cater.
And just where is a hindoe supposed to go to see women burned alive because it is cheaper then divorce?
Where is a Christian supposed to get info on bomb building to destroy that abortion clinic they disapprove off because having high teenage pregnancy is all the rage?
Mainstream media just doesn't cater.
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It's important that we accommodate those who do not wish to have their walled-garden world view tarnished. Seeing the world unfiltered is not for everyone... Imagine if geocentrists find that the earth is not the center of the universe - most uncomfortable indeed.
First link for "atheism" points to Conservapedia, which says:
If you were a comedian, you couldn't come up with something better than that. Are these people really that stupid?
Congrats for posting this. Thanks to being slashdotted, most sites stopped functioning properly. Not that they ever did anyway.
What should we take down next?
No search engines for buddhism? Or hinduism? Or pastafarianism?
I imagine that the Creationist version of Wolfram Alpha would be very easy to implement:
Q: [anything, really]
A: God did it.
I can do that. As the bible isn't consistent even with itself there are no results consistent with the bible.
It's always smart to exclude search results that don't match your personal prejudice.
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I did this many years ago. I built and maintained a yahoo style directory of Pagan and Wiccan websites called Omphalos. I added a search engine that indexed all the sites in our directory, using an open source search engine called UDMsearch. I had a pretty extensive index by the time I was done, and the site was fairly popular, given the small size of the potential audience. Sadly, I lost the domain name and then lost the ability to host it eventually, and the whole thing died. The domain name belonged to a squatter last time I looked (Omphalos.net).
It was a lot of work and took a lot of my time up. I still have a backup of the site itself somewhere on my HD I think. Certainly I have the old text files I had posted there from my BBS days kicking around. I am sure Omphalos must have been superseded by something better by now, but at the time it was the only pagan search engine.
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(I kid, I kid. I know fully well about diversity of opinions here, but you gotta admit there's still prevalence of some)
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you happen to be one of the (self appointed) ?chosen?. then all form of murder mayhem & debauchery are ok because it's done by ?god's? direction. what a deal, no?
My neonazi friend always complains about "Jewgle", "Jewtube", "Jewkepedia"... Seems that "by Jews" "for Jews" :-}
Oh yeah, unPC as hell*, so posting AC.
(* = depening on your religious views, the value of "hell" may differ)
I'm sure you guys have seen the "Christian Debt Financing" spam emails to trap the gullible. Imagine an entire search engine trying to scam you by pretending to share your morality.
It may even start off with good ideals, but you can bet that after a short period of time that it's just there to shear the flock.
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Anyone else find this could become a potentially deeply worrying form of censorship? A weapon to use against science.
This.
Indeed, I consider myself an atheist, and that doesn't mean I have faith in the lack of any gods. I'm not even 100% convinced there are no gods; I merely consider it the best available theory. If somebody were to come up with a convincing argument of why gods must exist - and "convincing" would necessarily have to include "reconcilable with current understandings of physics etc.", of course -, I would reconsider. My opinion is not set in stone for al eternity.
On a side note, I'll submit that everyone is an atheist, too, including religious folks: there is not just a single god that's ever been posited, after all. If you're a christian, do you believe in Anubis, or Zeus/Jupiter, or Thor? No? Then obviously, you're an atheist as far as the Egyptian, Graeco-Roman or Norse pantheon is concerned, for example. And nobody would see anything wrong with that, or claim that you must not lack belief in any of those deities unless you can prove that they don't exist, for example.
I don't mind people attacking atheism, but please, try to attack it on reasonable grounds. Don't misrepresent it; if you do, it only weakens your case. (After all, if you were able to attack it on reasonable grounds, why do you have to resort to lies and FUD?)
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Your God is not so powerful now, is he??
(Based on its static pages. Haven't been able to search yet.)
A while ago I saw another Christian general search engine (I forget the URL). I tried a few searches on it, and it was absolutely pathetic. The results could not have been less relevant if they tried! That is deeply disturbing to me, as I believe that we as Christians should should aim for excellence in all that we do.
It looks like this Seekfind will be different in that it doesn't aim to be a general search engine. I could see some value in that, if you're looking for thoughts on specific Bible passages or whatnot from a Christian perspective. I suspect that users who use Seekfind for that would have no trouble using Google for everything else, so there is no need to claim that they are "sheltered".
However, what disturbs me about Seekfind is its apparent narrowness in what they deem as "Christian-enough." Apparently they will not index sites that describe end-times from an amillennial perspective -- which is the most widely held view in all of Christendom (not American fundamentalism), and they won't consider infant baptism (as we in the Presbyterian Church do) or even believers' baptism by sprinkling. What the? It would be much more valuable if I could find commentaries from various Christian perspectives.
I'm looking forward to searching them for creation apologist material. From a comment above it looks like they only cover the young earth think tanks. I bet there won't be any results from reasons.org, which IMHO has a much saner interpretation of Creation (they argue that the Big Bang is fully compatible with a literal reading of the Bible).
The problem with your statement is that atheists use the word "belief" differently from how religious people use it when they talk about their religion. When a religious person say "I believe in God", they mean that they have absolute faith that their god exists. They know that their god exists.
When an Atheist says "I believe that there is no God", that person means "given the current evidence, I've come to the conclusion that it makes sense to live my life under the assumption that no god exists."
Atheists use "believe" in that sentence in the same way most people use it when they say something like "I believe it will rain tomorrow", not in the "absolute faith" kind of way.
And let's also note that atheism per se doesn't require that you believe that God doesn't exist. Atheism merely requires that you don't believe that a god exist. A lot of atheists are agnostics as well. In other words, the absolute absence of faith in a god is not the same as absolute faith in the absence of a god.
please can you tell me a search engine that DOESN'T filter its content.......oh you mean you KNOW that Google and Bing et al don't 'filter' their results? If that is the case then why don't I get exactly the same results if I use Bing and Google...EXACTLY the same results?
The search engine is a means to an end, not an end in itself, if you only use one search engine then fine, have at it. I'm happy to use many to get a more balanced search. Oh by the way you do know the 'moderate' filter is on by default right?
Or doesn't that count?
The word "believe" in religion is not about whether you believe in God. You have to believe because there is no solid explanation and evidence on why one religion is more correct than other religions. Hence, you need to have "blind faith" on that religion (not God) and hope that God really is how this religion describes. I came to realize when people ask me why I don't believe in God, reasoning like this is the best way to convince them, even though its not exactly how I think. Remember, never tell the believers "I don't believe in God because I'm a scientific person."
...Since there are no facts in religion, no results need to be returned.
Why search anyway, if you are only seeking to re-enforce a delusional world view?
Also, the people using such 'tools' are not real believers anyway. If they really had 'faith', they would just ask one of their 'gods' for the answers, and be done with it.
So parting the red sea is not testable??? How about making the sun stop? Are these not concrete, testable and verifiable interference with the world that the abrahamic god managed?
How about smiting? If there was even ONE case of lightning from a clear sky smiting someone for blasphemy, or earthquakes caused by god to punish people who whilst being blasphemers ALSO DID NOT LIVE ON A FAULT LINE, then these would be proofs of god's actions here that the believers think he does.
"What you actually mean to say is "to me, god's existence is disproved beyond all reasonable doubt". "
No, the only proofs that exist are ones that exist in the minds of the individual believers. But since they believe without proof, such proof wasn't necessary and therefore a waste of effort.
Pretty dumb god to waste his time like that...
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However, what disturbs me about Seekfind is its apparent narrowness in what they deem as "Christian-enough." Apparently they will not index sites that describe end-times from an amillennial perspective -- which is the most widely held view in all of Christendom (not American fundamentalism), and they won't consider infant baptism (as we in the Presbyterian Church do) or even believers' baptism by sprinkling. What the? It would be much more valuable if I could find commentaries from various Christian perspectives.
But this is the whole problem with organised religion. Once you give special status to a particular view (your own country, your own search engine) you alienate 1000 other interpretations of that religion. This is why the separation of church and state is a Good Thing. Its not bad for religion. Its bad for the little versions of it. Consider how happy the muslims in Saudi Arabia would be if the place wasn't run just by the Wahhabis.
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Look for something awful, lets say goatse.
On ImHalal Link #5 has the image.
The Christian search engine seekfind is totally safe because it crashed under the load.
Jewogle seems to be just google with safe-search enabled. I didn't find much difference between those two.
That doesn't describe agnosticism. That's atheism. If god came down and lived here, proving his divinity, then the atheists would know he exists in the same sense as they know Bill Clinton exists.
There wouldn't be any need for belief either.
One who you describe as "atheist" would indeed be a "believer" in that that strawman version you create would not believe God existed even if he existed right here in front of him.
Total count of people who think that: nil.
Fuckin shite.
http://www.imhalal.com/beta/index.php/web/Fuck+Islam : "289,812 results found. Your query "Fuck Islam" did not match any documents."
http://seekfind.org/search.aspx?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=fuck+christians : "Server Error in '/' Application."
Look no further: http://www.google.com/linux
The only question is, how long until people who know how to play with Google's search engine page ratings turn their attention to this one, and find a way to dump their crap in there as well?
Fox News.
At that point, they'd stop being an atheists. Except for those who wouldn't believe that what they've seen was really god, and not e.g. some extraterrestrial, very advanced civilization which used their advanced technology to generate a fake god for us.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
It's possible that the Russians set this up as an elaborate joke.
I actually think that would be a pretty funny joke. Thanks for the laugh.
I went to eat some animal crackers and the box said, "Do not eat if seal is broken." I opened the box and sure enough..
It really is sad and pathetic that people go to such lengths to shelter themselves from the world in order not to pop their preferred little bubble of unreason. Sure, being a parent I can understand wanting to keep unwanted and un-searched for porn from the eyes of your kids, but that's what a parent is for. By the time I allowed my kids to surf the web freely and unsupervised I had to simply accept that if they were old enough for me to grant that right to them, they should be old enough to handle anything they come across.
But this search engine is not simply a 'safe' gateway to protect kids from the evils of porn, it's a gateway to protect the fantasy's of their parents from the evils of reality.
Can't fault him for the aesthetics though.
Then again, don't most search engines offer a filter function? I'm a Christian, and I still use Google. Oh no, I saw something about evolution! Big deal. I read a bit of the Koran the other day, and quoted a bit of the book of Mormon. Does this mean that I am going to burn in hell because I was looking at something that wasn't consistant with my religious views?
That being said, I got some older family members who are strict on their ways and lifestyle. Filtered search engines for a group of people are not a bad idea. That being said, my experience is that, outside of the big name search engines, most you find are paid advertisements, and many of the links you get may not even be relevant to what you are searching for. Truthfully, if these search engines don't use Google as a back end, they are probably going to be useless.
The other option, which I talked a few family members into, is filtered internet. Stuff like Net Nanny, Integrity Online, and stuff like that. You will be surprised how many people I have asking me if I can set up filtering on their internet. Normally, I just turn on the parental controls in Vista and Windows 7, and it seems to keep them happy. They seem to think that when they log into Facebook, some big, nasty Internet is going to come in and redirect them to some porn site. I gave up trying to educate, and just install the filters.
only returns results from websites that are consistent with the Bible
The BIBLE isn't consistent with the Bible, I don't know how they expect websites written by mere mortals to be.
The problem with all of the anti-religious and, conversely, anti-atheist, bashing that goes on today is that 95% of it originates from about 5-10% of each respective group, but their diatribe spreads like a bad rash and pisses people off on both sides of the aisle for no real reason whatsoever. How about we get off the moral and/or intellectual high ground and focus on our research/work and call our mothers, or something else that's actually productive....?
We could go round and round about evidence. However, I am not a scholar. I am not an archeologist. I am not a linguist or some other specialist of the sort. But I am a human and I have seen lives changed.
Well, the Bible does talk about Jesus changing people lives. You can still find that around today. Now, you might say that some natural psychological phenomenon is at work instead. Or you might point to a bunch of hypocrites or at the long list of personal failures by Christians and turn a blind eye to the change that does take place. Or perhaps you'll point to someone whose life changed without God by your measure. But, you asked for "some evidence". I point to that as some evidence - at least enough to warrant a thorough looking.
Here is one of my favorite programs. It is a radio drama of true life stories of people whose lives have been changed by Jesus. I personally know at least one person who had their story told by this radio drama team, so I can vouch that this isn't just made up. Or you can just investigate the stories yourself.
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One last thing: Sometimes I wonder; "Is that someone's signature? Or do they type that at the end of each post?"
I just did a search for "evolution" and got a blank page.
drinkypoo doesn't know what atheism means either. An atheist is one who doesn't think the proposition of theism is even an avenue for discussion. In the same way as the discussion about the likely languages of aliens on Betelgeuse 7.
Agnostics don't know what they believe in, but still believe that theism is something worth discussing.
What atheists WILL discuss is whether the effects of others' theism should impact upon the world they too live in as a-theists. E.g abortion laws, tax free status of churches, time given to religion on TV or in schools, etc.
As to the existence of any god? No, nothing there worth discussing.
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I'm so atheist, not only do I not believe in life after death, I don't believe in life before death! This is due to a very simple mathematical test; divide the amount of time you'll be alive by the amount of time you won't be alive. The number you come up with is so close to 0 that you may as well just round it down to 0! Therefore if I were doing an atheist search engine it would have 0 content because obviously none of that stuff exists! HAH!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
It's only a matter of time before someone comes up with a "godse.cx" link.
While there is no proof of a benevolent god(s), the long career of Keanu Reeves would certainly offer pretty conclusive evidence of a satan.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Mhh is it me or do they have issues tracking the sessions? When I search for "maria nude pics" it works most of the time but when I keep clicking the search button I appear to get the search term and result from other users.
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My problem with God coming down and saying "Hi" is that I find the odds of that happening to be statistically lower than the odds that I have gone insane. After all, people go insane all the time, but in pretty much every currently active faith God very rarely comes to earth.
Your mom knows what six cocks in the ass feels like.
Maybe people going insane is God's way to come to earth :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
A Return to the Dark Ages and self censorship....
How long until these groups return to the "If we don't acknowledge it, it don't exist" views ?
Oh, it's like that already isn't it...mmmk.
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However, what disturbs me about Seekfind is its apparent narrowness in what they deem as "Christian-enough."
And there, in a nutshell, is why religious people should be as alarmed by religious censorship as non-religious people: once they're done with the infidels, then they come after the heretics. And as each batch of heretics are dealt with, the deviations necessary to be considered a heretic become smaller and smaller.
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Why should anyone care whether or not there's a religiously-inclined search engine? I mean seriously. This has turned into an issue on /. only because anything "religious" is immediately attacked whether it has anything to do with anyone here or not.
Don't use it. It really doesn't hurt.
And those are just the "little lies."
As Pratchett pointed out: there is not a single atom of truth or justice to be found in the universe. Without "belief" there's just a great ball of flaming gas that appears over the horizon - the sun does not rise.
Walk along the bed of the Red sea. Look at the edges of the water as it towers above you either side.
This seems to be fairly testable to me...
Why are atheists concerned by what religious people do to themselves, including creating their own search engine filters is beyond my understanding.
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
E.g abortion laws
You think murder is only a subject of religion? No wonder theists find atheists to be so terrifying.
Of course, what you're really trying to say is that only theists would consider an unborn baby to be a life. That's absolutely ridiculous. One need not be religious to hold that view, and certainly not all religions hold it.
That will only happen if someone is forced to use a religious search engine, but disallowed from using others.
More importantly, the post and every comment I've seen here about it is starting from the false assumption that people are making these search engines to censor reality. It's much more likely that they're simply trying to find relevant information for their needs. Try searching for the words god and... well, any other keyword really. The results aren't exactly a distillation of relevant canonical or even scholarly texts. And going to google scholar wouldn't necessarily help, as you'd get information from academics in that case, not from leaders of faiths.
Let's face it, if everyone used the word linux as a swear word, and a lot of people were asking linux-irrelevant questions online, like "How do I format my system drive using control panel?", Linux users would probably build their own search engine too. Oh, wait... they did.
I'm working on a religious fundementalist search engine. No matter what you enter it always comes back with the same result "You already know everything!".
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Something is lost and must be found!
St Anthony, patron saint of lost car keys and unmatched socks, is a favorite name for RC search engines.
Well actually, there's a chance that every atom in the sun could decay overnight. Or a rogue sun moving near light speed rams it out of the system. Or it just inexplicably goes super-nova WAY too early. Then sun would not come up tomorrow. A ludicrously, astronomically, small chance of such things happening, but it's there.
And so I don't have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow, but I'm willing to bet that it will, because from all the observable facts of the reality I perceive and reason out, that planning for any other outcome would be foolish and a waste of time.
You seeing the parallel with a god yet?
On the other hand, this calls to question what it is to believe things. In a philosophical sense, anything past solipsism is hard to prove 100%. Even 1+1=2 relies on the ZFS axioms. But come on, philosophy is pretty useless. Welcome to reality. It's a very real argument to say that since there is such a small chance of the sun not rising tomorrow, that I really do have faith that the the sun will rise. But maybe that's the engineer in me talking.
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Couldn't this be considered a good thing? If fundies have their own search engine, won't they be less likely to try to force censorship on Google? Same goes for Conservapedia....if they weren't writing their crazy articles there, wouldn't they be spending that effort trying to manipulate Wikipedia?
In some ways, it's probably a good thing that they've decided to cloister themselves in their own world and leave the rest of us alone.
I find it funny that when using SeekFind to search for "fuck" it gives me the result for "god"
I was lost and now I'm Found.
hackers have taken over the christian site, but not the muslim and jewish ones are still online! You insensitive clod!
erm, the sooner people start using distributed p2p search the better... as if it wasn't bad enough with google, now we have search engines that openly condone (are even proud of??) censorship?
I don't want a search engine that filters out all the porn-related results... I want a search engine that filters out all the non-porn related results! Why should I have to wade through all that G-rated crap to get to my delicious, tasty porn?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Because they affect the rest of us sane, non-fairy-tale believing folks.
And they vote. That's reason enough to attempt to ridicule them out of existence.
With the first link, the chain is forged.
Atheists lacking any organizations to defend their group, are unable to constantly clarify and define the term Atheist. The major religious have enough troubles doing this with their name and image; however, they have the organization and power to maintain a general sense of their terms. Some are zealots about maintaining this stuff because its quite damaging to lose control of one's terminology and image.
Atheist means so many things it is not that useful and often is as bad as labeling yourself as a pedophile or satanist. I've met people who thought it was some satanic demonic type thing that worshiped evil and would have felt more comfortable trusting a drug dealer or pimp than an Atheist. They probably got their misconceptions from their church...
Atheists don't believe. Yet many define them as believing there is no god - undermining their whole position greatly right from the start.
Now some people, they think that god is irrelevant because there is no real impact - anymore than santa clause does. So the question of existence is a pointless exercise because the answer does not matter either way. These people are not really Atheists by almost any definition - they are outside the taxonomy used in this area.
BTW- BBC is reporting the Pope's numbers in the UK are down significantly since the last visit in the 80s... maybe things will change as we get more Atheists?
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Now I see that there is not enough done on Slashdot to confront "not-sane" religious folks.
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So why am I going to hell, god? Because I was searching boots on the internet and saw boobs as a search option?
What about the Jesus? Didn't he clear me in advance?
But you can only use it for rhetorical questions like:
"Soda and Pop Tarts - you call that breakfast?" or "This is thanks I get?"
Unless it's just a page that says "Quick, look away!!!"
However, what disturbs me about Seekfind is its apparent narrowness in what they deem as "Christian-enough." Apparently they will not index sites that describe end-times from an amillennial perspective -- which is the most widely held view in all of Christendom (not American fundamentalism), and they won't consider infant baptism (as we in the Presbyterian Church do) or even believers' baptism by sprinkling. What the?
Infant baptism and sprinkling are what is practiced in the Methodist Church (2'nd largest denomination in the USA) and most other "mainline" churches as well. It appears that this is yet another attempt by a small minority to promote their radical brand of Christianity as the only way Christians believe.
"Jew ogle" sounds more like a Jewish porn site than a search engine.
I tried the Jewogle, I'mhalal, seekfind, atheistsearch and google by running the following search terms (Islam, Jew, Islamic, Swastika, teen and some NSFW terms) ,the I'm halal one showed similarity to Google results. The seekfind was trying to relate things to the bible, the Jewogle was shooting in an conspiracist perspective when 'Islam', 'Swastika' were queried. So these engines are more of divisions invoking catalysts since some are just showing search results that're degrading to the other creeds