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Paleontologists Discover World's Horniest Dinosaur

Ponca City, We love you writes "The Guardian reports that paleontologists have uncovered the remains of an ancient beast called Kosmoceratops richardsoni that stood 16 feet tall with a 6-foot skull equipped with 15 horns and lived 76 million years ago in the warm, wet swamps of what is now southern Utah. 'These animals are basically over-sized rhinos with a whole lot more horns on their heads. They had huge heads relative to their body size,' says Scott Sampson, a researcher at the Utah Museum of Natural History."

109 comments

  1. "Misleading Title... by Rinnon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Paleontologists Discover World's Horniest Dinosaur" I was really disappointed when I realized what they meant by "horniest"

    1. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I thought so as well, but after reading the article:

      Many palaeontologists now believe that dinosaurs' horns were often more for sexual display and fighting off other members of the same species, much like rutting deer.

    2. Re:"Misleading Title... by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pics or it didn't happen.

      No seriously, where's the picture of the actual skull? I want to see it.

      (Even more seriously though, the picture of the skull itself can be found here)

    3. Re:"Misleading Title... by ascari · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not misleading! You'd be horny too if the rest of your species are extinct.

    4. Re:"Misleading Title... by syousef · · Score: 1

      "Paleontologists Discover World's Horniest Dinosaur"

      I was really disappointed when I realized what they meant by "horniest"

      Me too. I thought they'd discovered Austin Powers!

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    5. Re:"Misleading Title... by francium+de+neobie · · Score: 1

      Worse, it's now found on Slashdot.

    6. Re:"Misleading Title... by DamienRBlack · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one that spent 30 seconds trying to figure out why scientists made a correlation between the size of the thing's head and the thing's desire for sex before realizing that it was just a bad pun?

    7. Re:"Misleading Title... by guyminuslife · · Score: 4, Funny

      I also fantasize about dinosaurs fucking.

      Maybe there are others like us. I should start a website.

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    8. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I was all prepared to see Sammy Davis Jr. or something.

    9. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      34

    10. Re:"Misleading Title... by hydrozen · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe THIS is the horniest dinosaur! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUJA-Tyrannosaurus.JPG

    11. Re:"Misleading Title... by guyminuslife · · Score: 2, Informative

      Goddamn, I Googled it and it's true.

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    12. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What is very interesting is to read the original scientific article. I've been reading this site all day. Fascinating stuff.

      http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0012292

      Look at some of the photos of the skulls. This is one of the most unusual animal discoveries I have ever seen. Really strange. What would that frilly part even look like in real life, all bent downwards? What biological or evolutionary process would even cause that? This is one weird dinosaur.

    13. Re:"Misleading Title... by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1

      "Paleontologists Discover World's Horniest Dinosaur" I was really disappointed when I realized what they meant by "horniest"

      Well, you know what they say about Dinosaur's with big horns...

    14. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone wants to discover a new species. Yet oh so often it is found out that your favorite dino is just an infant or regional version of another. This looks like a deformity to me. Highly inefficient body to head ratio and horns that turn into themselves; no doubt painfully growing into the flesh of the beast along the way. Think unkempt beaver teeth, or back to my point, dinosaur proteus (elephant man) syndrome.

    15. Re:"Misleading Title... by Nursie · · Score: 1

      Would you look at the size of that boy's head?

      It's a virtual planetoid! It's like sputnik!

    16. Re:"Misleading Title... by SlappyBastard · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where are my mod points when I need them??!?!?111?!

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    17. Re:"Misleading Title... by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      I'll reply instead of karma slashing you.

      You have got to be joke-fishing here, except AC fell for it, and then you ruined your own joke replying to AC.

      What should have happened was +1 Funny.

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    18. Re:"Misleading Title... by yashachan · · Score: 1

      No, not at all. Except it took me longer than 30 seconds.

    19. Re:"Misleading Title... by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I also fantasize about dinosaurs fucking. Maybe there are others like us. I should start a website.

      Rule 34

      No exceptions!

    20. Re:"Misleading Title... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      Horns or GTFO?

    21. Re:"Misleading Title... by sortadan · · Score: 5, Funny

      My first thought was of Hugh Hefner...

    22. Re:"Misleading Title... by modecx · · Score: 1
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    23. Re:"Misleading Title... by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 1

      Did you mean "horns or GTFO"?

    24. Re:"Misleading Title... by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 1
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    25. Re:"Misleading Title... by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 1

      Crap, you beat me to it. Wasn't there a guy around here with a sig about that?

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    26. Re:"Misleading Title... by guyminuslife · · Score: 1

      I see the "Funny" moderation, did someone mod that "Insightful"? Hell, I'd slash my own karma over that.

      I'm gonna call semi-whoosh. Not that you didn't get it, but that you feel compelled to explain it, and don't seem to get that everyone else also got it. Like a child who haughtily proclaims to a group of adults that no, the Tooth Fairy is not real, it's just make-believe, and everyone smiles and says, "Oh, really?"

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    27. Re:"Misleading Title... by PDX · · Score: 1

      I kept thinking of Muppets like ABC's Dinosaurs.
      And for today's news by Howard Handupme.

    28. Re:"Misleading Title... by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

      No, I saw the RSS title, and simple knew, before clicking, that it was a) about the number of horns, and b) samzenpus.

      That man must give some seriously good blowjobs, for Taco to keep him on.

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    29. Re:"Misleading Title... by RivenAleem · · Score: 4, Funny

      The Tranny saw us Sex?

    30. Re:"Misleading Title... by laejoh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking of Cobol developers...

    31. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    32. Re:"Misleading Title... by Inconexo · · Score: 1

      It is quite obvious the title was totally intended to use double entendre.

    33. Re:"Misleading Title... by somersault · · Score: 1

      Nope, for some reason (probably the "fucking" tag) I was still thinking about sex. Even after I read it had 15 horns, I was waiting until the summary said "and a 9 foot penis" or some such.

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    34. Re:"Misleading Title... by FritzSolms · · Score: 1

      It is not that mis-leading ... They did say the horns most probably evolved as a form of sexual display!!

    35. Re:"Misleading Title... by Whalou · · Score: 1

      The one in front is a Megasaurass.

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    36. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a bad pun....

      * This * is a bad pun: http://badpuns.com/jokes.php?section=oneline&pos=random&numitems=1

    37. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also fantasize about dinosaurs fucking.

      I certainly hope you meant "imagined" rather than "fantasized about"!

    38. Re:"Misleading Title... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      No kidding. I thought maybe paleontologists discovered ME!

      Whew.

      'scuse me while I go try and get laid....

    39. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was disappointed to find only gay dinosaur porn.

    40. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Pluto!

      Sorry, I probably missed something again.....

    41. Re:"Misleading Title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sickening... but whatever it takes to prevent gay dinosaur rape will have to do

  2. Damn. by adversus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I clicked the story expecting something completely different. Not the "horniest" I was looking for.

    1. Re:Damn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot began lifting headlines from Fark? The world IS ending.

  3. I for one... by Zarf · · Score: 1, Funny

    am glad that thing is extinct.

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    1. Re:I for one... by ksandom · · Score: 1

      Imagine them having a romantic night out. "OW My eye!"... or worse...

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    2. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine them having a romantic night out. "OW My eye!"

      That's usually how my romantic nights end. After that, she runs to the bathroom to wash out "the burning sensation".

  4. For the love of God! by santax · · Score: 1

    I read the title twice... only to confirm what I took for a mistake, but nooooo... it really says the world horniest... And after reading the first sentence, the dream was gone. Slashdot still isn't sexy :(

    1. Re:For the love of God! by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>Slashdot still isn't sexy

      Maybe somebody could submit this article: Top 10 Horniest Countries http://www.askmen.com/top_10/travel/top-10-horniest-countries_10.html

      No.10 - Mexico
      No. 9 - Switzerland
      No. 8 - Spain
      No. 7 - Malaysia
      No. 6 - Italy
      No. 5 - Poland
      No. 4 - China
      No. 3 - Russia
      No. 2 - Brazil
      No. 1 - Greece (where farming is king and the sheep are scared) - Note that Europe made this list 6 times, and North America not at all. Bunch'a prudes. :-(

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    2. Re:For the love of God! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Slashdot still isn't sexy :(

      Yes; like a cheap whore, the average Slashdot editor will accept just about any sentence in a submission, no matter how mangled. Doesn't Taco understand the needs of his audience. Nothing says "sexy" to the average Grammar-Trooper like a sultry "World's most Horny" in a headline.

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    3. Re:For the love of God! by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Note that Europe made this list 6 times, and North America not at all. Bunch'a prudes. :-(

      Or maybe everyone in North America is getting some, and don't have to lie about it? After all, you're not going to be hungy if you just ate a 120 ounce steak.

    4. Re:For the love of God! by RaymondKurzweil · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Was Mexico kicked out for not being white enough or something?

    5. Re:For the love of God! by mavasplode · · Score: 0

      A Greek and an Italian

      A Greek and Italian were sitting in a Starbuck's one day discussing who had the superior culture. Over triple lattes the Greek guy says, "Well, we have the Parthenon."

      Arching his eyebrows, the Italian replies, "We have the Coliseum." The Greek retorts, "We Greeks gave birth to advanced mathematics."

      The Italian, nodding agreement, says, "But we built the Roman Empire."

      And so on and so on until the Greek comes up with what he thinks will end the discussion. With a flourish of finality he says, "We invented sex!"

      The Italian replies, "That is true, but it was the Italians who introduced it to women!"

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    6. Re:For the love of God! by plover · · Score: 1

      Fry: No thanks, I only read slashdot stories with the title of "World's Blankiest Blank."

      Network guy: How about "World's Horniest Dinosaur?"

      Fry: That'll do.

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    7. Re:For the love of God! by Arekuzu · · Score: 1

      Note that Europe made this list 6 times, and North America not at all. Bunch'a prudes. :-(

      Mexico is in North America.

    8. Re:For the love of God! by BillGod · · Score: 1

      I think they should call it the Ronjeromeyasaurus.

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    9. Re:For the love of God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After all, you're not going to be hungy if you just ate a 120 ounce steak.

      Only North America could come up with an analogy that involves eating absurd amounts of food. If you weigh 300+ pounds, your sex drive is pretty much gone. That's a more likelyy explanation.

    10. Re:For the love of God! by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      A lot of the record holders for eating are skinny.

      Look at this guy - the first on the list. He weighs 132 pounds,

      • 47 pickled peppers in 8 minutes
      • 24" Pizza: 7 1/2 Extra Large Bacci Pizza Slices / 15 Minutes/ July 9, 2005
      • Birthday Cake: Five Pounds/ TripRewards 1st Birthday / 11 Minutes, 26 Seconds/ May 10, 2005
      • Chili: 1 1/2 gallon Stagg Chili / 10 minutes
      • Corn Dogs: 12 Fletcher's Corny Dogs/ State Fair of Texas / 10 minutes/ Sept. 28, 2003
      • Huevos Rancheros: 7.75 lbs Huevos Rancheros / 10 minutes/March 18, 2006
      • Jalapenos, Pickled, 8-Minute Record: 247 pickled jalapeno peppers/State Fair of Texas / 8 minutes/Oct. 8, 2006
      • SPAM: 6 pounds of SPAM from the can/ SPAMARAMA / 12 minutes/ Apr. 3, 2004
      • Tex Mex Rolls: 30 Tex Mex Rolls/ GameWorks at Great Lakes Crossing / 12 minutes/ Mar. 12, 2005

      Come on - a 132 pound guy ate 6 pounds of spam in 12 minutes.

      Or this 105-pound woman

      She ate more than 8 pounds of sausage in 10 minutes, 8.4 pounds of baked beans in less than 3 minutes, 11 pounds of cheesecake in 9 minutes, and so many more records that I'm not even going to list them.

      Or this guy drinking a 22-ounce slurpee in 9 seconds, 13 pounds of poutine, more than 15 pounds of strawberry shrotcake, and many other records.

      None of them are obese 300-pound tubs of lard.

    11. Re:For the love of God! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Slashdot still isn't sexy :(

      News for, um... what was that slogan again?

    12. Re:For the love of God! by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      Contestants at eating competitions typically vomit up the food afterwards. They often have too -- the total sulfides in the massive amount of hot dogs eaten at the Coney Island contest would be deleterious to one's health. They thus don't get fat because the food doesn't stay in their body long.

  5. Early form of Wireless? by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There were elephants with four tusks, where the extra tusks offered virtually no advantage as far as anyone can tell. The horns on a dinosaur were of dubious defensive or offensive value and may well have been to improve cooling (greater surface area to radiate from) or for display. It would have made dealing with thick vegetation a problem - more ways to get tangled up. Ok, so if we go with improving cooling, in order to provide any serious advantage there has to be a significant source of heat that the triceratops did not face. Perhaps this dinosaur moved faster, or was more active in general.

    Ever since paleontologists discovered proteins inside dino bones and even found a fossil that partially preserved the colour of the skin, the understanding of dino lives has changed dramatically.

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    1. Re:Early form of Wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not wireless. Dinosaurs were telepathic. The horns directed their telepathy powers. Kosmoceratops was an ancient god.

  6. Paleontology to paleo-organic-chemistry by zooblethorpe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can only imagine what the reaction must have been when the team accidentally broke that T. rex femur -- probably going from "oh, shit" when it first broke, and then to a very different sort of "oh, shit!" when they realized it still had the marrow in it.

    Cheers,

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    1. Re:Paleontology to paleo-organic-chemistry by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh yeah. And before anyone points out that people have suggested that the protein was contamination, there was enough to see things that looked suspiciously like blood vessels and the protein resembled what would be found in chicken bones - which the hollow T. Rex bone strongly resembled. Similar results were apparently found in other T. Rex bones, but owing to the extreme rarity of T. Rex fossils in the first place, never mind the extreme reluctance of museums to go sawing their prize pieces in half, it's unclear if this is ever going to be "reproducible" to the point of anyone's complete satisfaction. (Actually, MRI should be able to see through stone ok, so long as it's not iron-bearing.)

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    2. Re:Paleontology to paleo-organic-chemistry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it was more probably more "Goddammit, we can't get this thing out of here without breaking it in half. Oh well, it's already broken, might as well send it for tests that need to break it."

      Disclaimer: IAAP (I AM a paleontologist.)

  7. Uuuuggghhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Me so hungy...

  8. The Onion by xbeefsupreme · · Score: 2, Funny
  9. Nicknamed by wonderboss · · Score: 1

    Randy.

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  10. That IS horny! by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Possibly even hornier than the dickwolves.

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  11. First the BBC, now Slashdot by mbone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Jee, is everyone writing on the web 13 years old ?

    1. Re:First the BBC, now Slashdot by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      ... is everyone writing on the web 13 years old?

      No. Some are dogs.

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    2. Re:First the BBC, now Slashdot by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

      No, but many do write at a 7th grade level.

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  12. Somewhere in England.. by sakonofie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...there is a Guardian copy editor who is going home proud of themselves for a job well done.

  13. Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not kidding, that boy's head is like Sputnik; spherical but quite pointy at parts!

  14. The Weekly World News Called by istartedi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Weekly World News called. They want their headline back.

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  15. Matches the age of the stories on CNN, too by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 1

    Big deal. So they've discovered Larry King.

    "Salt Lake City, hello..."

  16. "Horn"iest? by TheABomb · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or does that illustration look like the world's Roy Horniest dinosaur?

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  17. Jesse "The Body" Ventura? by shmeck · · Score: 1

    In "Predator," Jesse Ventura assured me that chewing tobacco would make me "a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like [him]." I presume this is how Kosmoceratops got this way.

  18. Must be a dietary thing by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 1

    Hold on...Utah? They're saying Larry King's Mormon?

    Maybe it's just that the world's horniest dinosaur prefers to prey on Mormon girls. That must be it.

  19. Original story is "Amazing Horned Dinosaurs" by Thorfinn.au · · Score: 1

    The PR from University of Utah http://www.unews.utah.edu/p/?r=092010-1 lots more details than any of the NEWS sites have published also check out http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100922121943.htm

  20. ...and the worlds luckiest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hugh Hefner

  21. The correct term is "most horned", not "horniest" by mark-t · · Score: 1

    I know, I know... I take all the fun out of stuff.

  22. Title Fail by beatle11 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Really? I'd like to know how many people actually knew what they were talking about when they saw the title.

  23. Re:The correct term is "most horned", not "hornies by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

    I take all the fun out of stuff.

    No, you're just missing the point. It may be hard, but don't let the puns get a rise out of you. They'll never erect a statue in honor of you horning in on the conversation.

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  24. No no no... by schon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I believe this particular one will be called the "hefnersaurus"

    1. Re:No no no... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      the "hefnersaurus"

      likes hot food and Chinese cars.

  25. Is it just me or... by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1

    ...does it look like a parrot with an emo fringe?

  26. ha! by nirvash · · Score: 1

    "These animals are basically oversized rhinos with a whole lot more horns on their heads. ..." wah? mammals on the triassic????? fuck me

  27. Diggity Diggity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Diggity Diggity. Oh Yeah!

  28. Who didn't start jerking off to Bakker's books? by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

    A photo of the world's leading pornographer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dr._Bob_Bakker.jpg

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    1. Re:Who didn't start jerking off to Bakker's books? by guyminuslife · · Score: 1

      I must be a rube, because I took took the link and thought, "Man, that porno guy sure does look like a paleontologist!"

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  29. oh gee by BattleApple · · Score: 1

    I thought this article was going to be about promiscuous dinosaurs, but it's about dinosaurs with many horns! Damn you slashdot! By the way, I didn't RTFS or TFA

    1. Re:oh gee by hydrozen · · Score: 2, Informative
  30. They're BLUE now? by cavebison · · Score: 1

    Ever since Walking With Dinosaurs, things have gotten a bit silly. Creative licence should be revoked at times. There's no way they can know what skin colour these guys had.

    Maybe dinosaurs died out because all the elaborate colours and plumage made them all easy prey for each other. The ones left over starved. Makes sense, let's go with that.

    1. Re:They're BLUE now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This one is so horny that the blue has spread from his balls.

  31. Palintologists by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Troll

    Do they mean all of Fox News' ancient viewers who order Viagra between segments when McCain's VP candidate is on?

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  32. Re:The correct term is "most horned", not "hornies by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 1

    Don't even bother replying to stiffs like this guy. Your life is rough and busy enough I'm sure, and getting into a long and hard argument with a pr*** isn't worth it.

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  33. Location by ByteSlicer · · Score: 1

    So they found it in its mother's basement?

  34. That's no dinosaur... by l0b0 · · Score: 1

    That's a Chernobyl chicken!

  35. Mixed head by pacinpm · · Score: 1

    They should better double check if it's really it's own head. They have already made such a mistake with brontosaurs.

  36. Ancient Horny and Bone-headed Utah Resident Found! by pedantic+bore · · Score: 1

    Now that would have been a title.

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  37. What was it called? by EdgeyEdgey · · Score: 1

    Takeoffyourtops?
    Reallyfuckingsoreass?

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  38. Screw the rocks! What a GREAT Publication Site! by Toad-san · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now THAT site is what scientific publications should be all about. No steenking membership. No steenking expensive annual fees.

    You go there, you look around, you get to read abstracts _and_ the full damned paper (with ALL the images, hooray!). Great stuff.

    Every scientific publication (or at least the ones being funded by OUR tax dollars) should work that way!

  39. Seinfeld Dinosaur by Kadoo · · Score: 1

    Cosmo Kramer + Michael Richards + Dinosaur = Kosmoceratops richardsoni

  40. Oh yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgIY352G_sU

  41. Re:Screw the rocks! What a GREAT Publication Site! by erdraug · · Score: 1

    Excuse me, are you referring to the guardian as a scietific publication or am i missing something?