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Mexican Senate Votes To Drop Out of ACTA
An anonymous reader writes "The Mexican Senate has voted unanimously to drop out of ACTA negotiations, saying that the process has been way too secretive, left out many stakeholders and appears to deny access to knowledge and information. Of course, it's not clear if this 'non-binding resolution' actually means much, as the negotiators are not under the Senate's control. At the very least, though, it appears the Mexican Senate is going to fight to keep the country from agreeing to ACTA."
This says nothing about dropping out at all. It is asking for negotiations to be paused while they set up internal discussion and review groups. The tone of the entire thing supports the general need for something like ACTA but is against the secrecy of the negotiations. The healine there is misleading.
Another "backwards" country cares more about the freedoms of its people than the United States.
Unanimous ... I bet the US senate would be closer to unanimous in the other direction.
Smaller countries know when they are being taken to the cleaners.
I am anarch of all I survey.
The negotiating countries will need to sign this treaty from the start, but at least they get a chance to water it down.
Other countries get dragged into signing it later, with no chance to change anything. Ever notice how the USA makes DMCA-like laws a requirement of any trade-related treaty?
I can't understand why any country other than America would even care about draconian copyright enforcement. Given that America is a huge media maker and most of the world are consumers of this media with a small amount they produce themselves, their citizens achieve a higher quality if life with existing copyright enforcement. ACTA really only benefits the US. All the other countries should figure this out.
I just think IP economy is incompatible with freedom in general. I know you guys can follow thru.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
Can anyone tell me if ACTA is "anti counterfeit trade agreement" or something else?
Can we get a fucking editor who can identify this sort of thing?
It is 2010 now.
Here's the problems caused for software patents:
I've seen people claiming that ACTA will require countries to allow software patenting, but that's not correct at all. On the contrary, the latest leaked draft (25 August) explicitly says that there will be no substantive requirements on scope:
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Heh, at this rate, it won't be long before the United States is the only country left. Then the RIAA, MPAA, and the henchmen Obama appointed to the DoJ can write whatever they want and sign us on as the sole participating nation. Signing a treaty without another nation involved has to fall somewhere in the executive branch scale between extraordinary rendition and summary execution, so it's totally legit!
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> Smaller countries know when they are being taken to the cleaners.
Yeh, but the only institutions that complain are ones with no power.
The European Parliament, the European Privacy Commission, and the Mexican Senate aren't in charge of the ACTA negotiations for their countries. They can stomp off and their citizens can feel proud that the elected officials are looking after their interests, but ACTA goes ahead. Funny, huh?
I didn't understand how society let TRIPS go ahead in 1994. I guessed it was snuck in while citizens weren't looking at the global level, and it would thus never happen again. Now my generation is letting it happen, and we're watching it unfold, and it's unfolding...
http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement_overview
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I was going to mod you up, being the first to post is quite difficult and requires skill and quick reaction time. But A/C's don't count for first post. Don't you realize it takes longer to login and then join a discussion?
You didn't really want to write the first post, you just wanted to claim first post. Your cheating, Play fair
Mexico has much bigger things to deal with like a big drug war and the drug cartels paying off cops.
Someone forgot to check the AC box.
You're unable to handle easy things correctly. Children in elementary school are expected to get this right. What the fuck is your excuse?
The Point of Agreement from the Senate is a political plead to the President to stop the ACTA negotiation process. Although it's not legally binding at the moment, by law all the International Trades with Mexico have to be approved by the Senate.
The Senate is asking the President to stop the ACTA negotiations, but if the President fails to do it, eventually he must send the ACTA for approval to the Senate.
... as the negotiators are not under the Senate's control.
So how is it that negotiators who are negotiating a treaty that will have far-reaching implications for the people of Mexico not be under their government's control? That sounds about as thoroughly fucked up as it is in D.C.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
You're right. You're Anonymity however, makes you're post seem trollish, and/or offtopic. If you're going to post like that, you might want to uncheck you're AC tickbox. Wouldn't want to cheat karma, would we?
At any rate, I applaud Mexico for this. The more countries that do this, the more ACTA isn't looking so good.
> when I read "drop out" it suggests that they've pulled out completely
Same here. Other example: when a runner drops out of a race. They don't stand around thinking and then suddenly start sprinting to catch up because they've decided the race is actually pretty cool :-)
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Hopefully more countries will follow Mexico's lead!
Mexico may have been turned into a lethal hellhole by the drug cartels, but you have to credit their government with more integrity than most of the developed world, as far as that treaty is concerned. I hope the EU makes good on its promise and follows suit.
Gracious.
We get to vote and the big companies get to make all the rules...
Isn't it great.
Privacy is terrorism.