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Doctor Marries Doctor's Daughter, TARDIS Explodes
techmuse writes "In a veritable Who's Who of Doctor Who, 10th Doctor David Tennant is marrying Georgia Moffett, the daughter of 5th Doctor Peter Davison, who played the Doctor's daughter in an episode of Doctor Who. Except that the Doctor's daughter was a clone of the Doctor, which meant that she really was Who. So a newer Doctor is marrying an older Doctor's daughter, who is a clone of the newer doctor, but only has half the DNA of the older Doctor."
Doctor, doctor, give me the news. I got a bad case of lovin'... who?
She's also the daughter of Trillian
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Which Who is on first?
THIRD BASE!
I feel a disturbance in the force... As if a million voices screamed in pain all at once. No, wait, that's my girlfriend, crying in the corner. Excuse me while I join her in fangirl agony. NOOOOOOOOO!
And you thought YOU had it hard growing up...
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
What more can be said, we shall see.
Nate
...diagram please?
It still makes more sense than Primer.
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. - Terry Pratchett
but the reception was at the top of a grand staircase
after 3 hours of trying to figure out how to use the stairs, the dalek's leveled the entire building in frustration and anger
the new bad blood will serve forthcoming dr. who episodes very well, so, all in all, a good wedding for fans
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He got engaged to his co-star on Girl in a Fireplace, too. Come to think of it, another of his co-stars went off to make a TV mini-series about a BDSM call-girl. What the hell is he doing to these girls' minds?
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Who cares who's daughter is who's and who's DNA is in whomever? Who really gives a hoot?
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Her Wikipedia picture is terrible. IRL, she's a total hottie. Tennant's a lucky guy. First he's bangin' Sophia Myles, now this.
...This is one of the more accurate uses of the age old expression "My head a'splode".
This is why I am so against time travel.
The Doctor has tried marrying his companion before. I get the feeling that this can only end as well as the marriage between Tom Baker and Lalla Ward.
This particular story is almost as bad as that time when the Doctor and his granddaughter were clearly checking each other out (Peter Davison, Carole Ann Ford, "The Five Doctors").
Let q be a radix > 1. I am in ur base-q, killing 10 d00ds.
Marrying a clone of yourself who's also your daughter? So is this how the Time Lords masturbate on Gallifrey?
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... it sounds like an accident with a contraceptive in a time machine. Move along; nothing to see here.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Is she also related to Stephen Moffett, the head writer of the show right now?
Doctor Marries Doctor's Daughter, TARDIS Explodes
I think the misspelled "head", and I'm sure they misspelled "asplode".
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Pass on tha blunt man. I think you got some good stuf!
Wake up. This is all a simulation. It has been the entire time. You're having a deep embedded, fully immersive hallucinatory cognitive dissociation brought on by a schizophrenic episode of your favorite TV show. When the Daleks show up they will appear to you as men in white coats; this is a representation of your subconcious desire to fuck your mother. Give in to it and enter the warm embrace of drug treatments they offer. This is a hallucination of your subconcious mind "Clearing" the conflicting data and getting back to reality -- it doesn't really mean you fucked your mother or still want to, but other people might. That's the tricky part, now you get your discharge and you have to pretend you're normal, but whatever you do do not assume the Doctor Who role and attempt to recreate the process described in TFA. It will result in a disruption of the enclosing universal wormhole as described in the new item title. Just go about your business like nothing happened and keep eating the pills. Accept your hairless monkey role in life and die like a pac man caught by a hungry ghost. Do not attempt to drain your pool.
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or one could go outside for the first time.
"So a newer Doctor is marrying an older Doctor's daughter, who is a clone of the newer doctor, but only has half the DNA of the older Doctor."
Dear god, someone please think of the 12 toed children! Actually, we've already seen the doctor's granddaughter, Susan. They forgot to mention the plot point about the Doctor being her father and her grandfather ;-) OMG Susan has 12 toes!
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not what, who.
rewriting history since 2109
How long before Amazon tries to ban this?
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The Doctor marries the doctor and who has who.
rewriting history since 2109
Incest is best! Keep it in the TARDIS.
rewriting history since 2109
You could improve your copy-pasta troll by changing "Sh'eet, must be da law" to "Sh'eet, must be da po-po", which rhymes with "my sister wif her gurlfriend, my brother wif some ho.".
The Universe already exploded, but the Doctor flew the Pandorica into the exploding Tardis so that the universe would be healed.
It worked since we are still here.
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How can a clone of a male be a female? No wonder I could never sit through Dr. Who
What is your suggested source of technology news?
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Best Summary Ever. But the title was too "farky". Didn't go with the summary.
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Why isn't this in Idle?
Okay normally I would agree 100%... but I've never seen a story on Slashdot that better qualifies as 'News for Nerds', and I was here for the Lone Gunmen fiasco.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Yup - My head hurts
I wanted to insert an ascii pic of my mind being blown, but instead you'll just have to settle for me telling you I was going to do that.
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OK, skip all the crazy stuff, just answer me this:
Who is marrying who?
So, who is marrying who?
Yes.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Hey little Twelve Toes,
I hope you're thriving...
Some of us ten-toed folks are still surviving.
If you help me with my twelves,
I'll help you with your tens.
And we can all be friends.
Little twelve toes....
Please come back home.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Because it's in Entertainment instead, since it's... about actors?
People assume that relationships are a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... love-y wimey... stuff.
Dude, where's my packet?
How would that be an improvement? Someone doesn't understand the AABB rhyme scheme. That line is supposed to rhyme with "... empty beer cans and all."
The actor who played the previous Dr is marrying his onscreen daughter which is actually the IRL daughter of the actor that played the 5th Dr.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
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Did he participate in events that made him his own grandfather? 'Cause if not, it does nothing to help our coming brain invasion problem.
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
I want to tell the doctor to go go f*(k himself.
But I see that he already did.
Kind of.
- "They misunderestimated me."
... The Doctor finally dances. And by the way, the Doctor's name is unknown, it's not "Who". You loserboy nerds.
Geeks are so full of shit that "beating the crap out of them" takes a whole new meaning.
Or the time the Crock Hunter was enthusing about how beautiful a female orangutan was and said female started doing what was clearly courtship behavior toward him. The expression on his face as he gradually realized what was going on - but still has to talk for the camera - was priceless.
(IMHO it's likely that the female, a great ape who was an orphan raised from an infant by humans, probably understood quite a bit of English and had socialized with humans so much she might have found them more attractive than members of her own species. Now here was one who says she's beautiful ...)
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
He is marrying his better half.
There's more to it than this.
"Temporal mechanics always gave me a headache back at the Academy." - Kathryn Janeway
Be who you are...and be it in style!
Who is the doctor!
N/T
Frohike in Lederhosen? One of the best episodes of any series I've watched.
Todd: I hope it proves as delicious as the farmers that grew them
And you thought YOU had it hard growing up...
That's what she said.
Don't they mean the same DNA, but a duplicate X chromosome?
Which our DNA is in you?
On second thought, better not answer that.....
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It isn't incest of the relation is a fictional one between your characters.
I learned that in middle school, 9 years ago. (the students playing a father/daughter pair in that year's school play were kissing; that was their response to my needling)
I'm not a Doctor Who fan, so I can't squeeze in (or recognize) your references. :)
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
actually..
that actor who played the previous doctor, is marrying his onscreen daughter, who is a clone of the doctor, IRL she is also the daughter of an actor who played a previous, previous doctor.
so the doctor, married his daughter, also the doctor, and she's the daughter of another doctor, and the doctor's daughter, THIRD BASE!
in many species the female is heterozygous for the sex chromosome not the male- the ZW system in some insects is a prominent example Time Lords may be one of these species so that a clone of a male could be female
it's also fun for the whole family
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
she'll be receiving the other half, presumably at regular intervals though....
Are you sure this isn't happening in Arkansas instead of England?
As I once said when making a snide comment about European football, "(puts on fire-resistant suit)"
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
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Kylie Minogue, you mean? (I do sometimes see the first name used as a mononym)
Many of her fans might not care - it seems someone ironic to me that gay icons tend to be beautiful women instead of other dudes.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
immyowngrandpa
You never expect irony, do you?
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I think you forgot to call someone a coward and mock them for their use of a pseudonym. How embarrassing for you :)
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Maybe it's time the Dr Who script writers borrowed RAH's "All you Zombies" novella, and adapted it for the screen :) I'd love to see that!
You need to catch up with Mostly Harmless! There are two parallel versions of Tricia McMillan: Trillian (who ran off with Zaphod) and Tricia (who stayed and moved to the USA). In the Radio 4 production of the later books, yes, they were played by the appropriate actresses...
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That's nothing.. Dr Who's dad married my brother! Thats because David Tennants dad is a Church of Scotland Minister.......
Which he most often answers with "Yes" So therefore it is what he goes by...
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
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Shift happens. Fire it up.
Just wait until Emma Watson hooks up with Matt Smith or Karen Gillian.
Then you'll see some fan head asplody.
I drank what? -- Socrates
Isn't Eric a bit old for all this conubial connubiling?
I drank what? -- Socrates
And as a clone, the female would have two copies of the original X chromosome (making XX), i.e. half of the original DNA (XY).
No, that's just wrong.
A clone of male that was engineered to replace the Y sex chromosome with an duplicate of the X would have much more than half the DNA of the original male. The sex chromosome pair is one of 23 chromosome pairs, and the Y chromosome itself has less DNA than the X chromosome. So, the XY -> XX switch would preserve more than half of the DNA of the sex chromosome pair, which is itself only a small fraction of the DNA of the entire set of chromosomes.
Obviously you would swap the lines, and probably rework "empty beer cans and all".
But it's a fucking copy-pasta troll - I'm not going to do their homework for them.
I can just imagine the Tennants and Davidson/Moffetts getting together for Christmas lunch. Swapping stories about the good old days, complaining about these new Doctors who couldn't tell an Abzorbaloff from a Toclafane, even with dampeners on their sonic screwdrivers.
And then they tune in to watch the new Christmas special. Ah, good times...
Cogito, ergo sig.
Wow. Marrying your own clone. That puts Narcissism on a WHOLE new level...
that's a lot to digest
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so the doctor, married his daughter, also the doctor, and she's the daughter of another doctor, and the doctor's daughter, THIRD BASE!
Wait ... so Who married Who's daughter who happens to be both Who and the Daughter of Who. .... Whoa.
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i'll take the latter please...
I just started watching Doctor Who when Christopher Eccleston (9th doctor) was the doctor. With David Tennant, I was leery at first, and you could say I just didn't like. But after 2 episodes, he "fit" the part. I'm not quite sure how you refer to that sort of expected change.
With Matt Smith, it just seems... wrong. I'm too lazy to search out some doctor who form to watch some flame wars. But has this sort of "change" not sat right with the public before? If so, do some of you hard core fans already know that Smith isn't going to be around much longer?
....what an incestuous relationship. ...does this mean like Fry; he's his own Grandpa too?
There are 2 groups of people you can make fun of on the Internet without fear of attack. The illiterate, and the Amish.
This is nothing more than celebrity gossip. If such things are ok for shows that we like, then geeks are no better than the unwashed masses we so love to denigrate. Course, I believe that's always been the case.
This is a lot easier to follow http://cyclomedia.co.uk/blog/media/primer_primer_2400.png
If you don't risk failure you don't risk success.
But she's younger (as god intended ;) so props to the Tennant (and come back please! All is forgiven!)
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I could see the Doctor marrying his clone/daughter, they go on their honeymoon and the night of their first copulation dozens of future Timelords (their offspring) show up to witness the event.
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This is nothing more than celebrity gossip.
The coincidences surrounding it are amusing. Of course you have to be nerdy enough to appreciate them. (ahhh... nerdy smugness!)
If such things are ok for shows that we like, then geeks are no better than the unwashed masses we so love to denigrate...
We're already no better than the people we criticize. Actually we're worse. It was geeks that invented the terms 'flame war' and 'fan boy'. Go look up "FIBRIR".
You've picked a pretty useless argument against this story being here, but I'll give you credit for referring to something the Doctor says ad-nauseum.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Atcually, that's something socially awkward nerds sometimes mistake for humor. Really, it's not.
Humor is subjective, so positing what purports on its face to be a factual, objective statement that someone else is wrong about what is and is not humorous is kind of pointless.
On Vulcan, humor is largely considered irrelevant to our intellectual pursuits. However, there are segments of our population which do enjoy Vulcan humor, and as such there are a certain number of comedy clubs to be found. One of the more popular forms of Vulcan comedy is to posit an elaborate hypothesis containing a small logical flaw; but to proceed ahead with the hypothesis while attempting to provide arguments and calculations supporting the hypothesis which, to a careless mind, would appear sound. The hypothesis is then carried forward to its naturally absurd conclusions. I once attended such a performance: I found it rather whimsical.
Bow-ties are cool.
They explained it with the usual burst of technoblather from Tennant, an exasperated noise, and some waving of hands with "You wouldn't understand." :)
"I'll explain later!"
Bow-ties are cool.
... their TARDISes merged and nearly created an explosion the... exact size of Belgium, Well, that was anticlimactic, but how big will the explosion be this time? Two Belgiums, possibly?
Belgium squared. I know that the units on that quantity (length to the fourth power) don't make sense from a conventional standpoint, it takes some complicated Gallifreyan dimensional analysis to sort it all out...
I'll explain later.
Bow-ties are cool.
With Matt Smith, it just seems... wrong.
I'd like to refer you to my sig line. Those words of wisdom contain an important, life-changing message for all fans of Doctor Who.
As for Tennant - I didn't like him at first, either. I didn't watch any of the 2005 series until around 2009, I think. In the end I think Tennant was great but I do wish Eccleston had done at least one more season.
Personally I think regeneration is always hard for the audience. In some cases more than others: like Tom Baker, who was the Doctor for about seven years and probably the most popular of all the original seven Doctors - Who fans are used to the idea of regeneration but it's still hard, when you've mostly watched one particular doctor, to move on from that and embrace a new actor in the role.
Tennant is, at least, the most popular Doctor since Tom Baker. He may have even surpassed him in the minds of present-day fans, I don't know.
But I would say that's the best analogy: both Matt Smith and Peter Davison followed very popular Doctors. In the case of Tom Baker - I don't think the show ever entirely recovered after he left. He was popular enough, and his run was long enough, that it must have been very hard to try and move forward from that point. Even though Tennant's run wasn't as long, he still accounts for four of the six years of the new series at this point. It seems to me that there is some danger that his run will have the same impact.
Bow-ties are cool.
You've picked a pretty useless argument against this story being here, but I'll give you credit for referring to something the Doctor says ad-nauseum.
It's not so much me arguing, but being baffled how a group who's so against following celebrity lives either think this is kewl, or are remaining silent about the news story. Like I kind of hinted at in my previous post, I don't really mind the gossip, I just having trouble understanding why people enjoy it.
And just to note, I don't watch Doctor Who. After watching some of the new episodes, I felt it was too campy.
It's not so much me arguing, but being baffled how a group who's so against following celebrity lives either think this is kewl, or are remaining silent about the news story.
It's not baffling at all, the coincidences surrounding it are fun in a nerdy sort of way.
And just to note, I don't watch Doctor Who. After watching some of the new episodes, I felt it was too campy.
Well gee shit, no wonder you don't get it. You should be asking questions instead of making statements.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
It's not baffling at all, the coincidences surrounding it are fun in a nerdy sort of way.
So you've already said. And though I don't get it, I not disputing it. Well, at least the fun part. I'm not seeing how it's nerdy. I'm sure no one here would claim it's nerdy to know two actors from any other genre are getting married after all. Perhaps this is a case where anything linked to a sci-fi show gives it a hint of nerdiness.
Well gee shit, no wonder you don't get it. You should be asking questions instead of making statements.
What would I have gotten had I liked Dr. Who? The aforementioned gossiping about celebrities is cool if I like the actor/show mindset? I didn't care when I learned two actors in "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (Alexander Siddig and Nana Visitor) were married. I understand being interested in celebrity lives when it affects the show (like when Visitor was pregnant), but the allure of just talking about their lives still eludes me. And I believe I'll continue to remain ignorant on this topic. But thanks for trying to enlighten me.
What would I have gotten had I liked Dr. Who? ... And I believe I'll continue to remain ignorant on this topic. But thanks for trying to enlighten me.
The sad thing is that it took you this long to ask the right question to cure you of your ignorance, then you said you didn't want to de-ignorantify yourself. I don't really get this. I mean, you're confused about something, so instead of asking questions about it, you'd rather whinge about it then defend your decision to remain ignorant. Why is this? Are you trying to look smart? Is it because you think the original point should be defended and you don't want to take the time to consider that maybe you joined the wrong side of it? Am I just way off the mark, here?
I didn't care when I learned two actors in "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (Alexander Siddig and Nana Visitor) were married.
That also story didn't (and wouldn't have) make it to Slashdot.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
No, celebrity gossip would be that Mila Kunis intended to go on vacation with Macauley Caulkin but she absent-mindedly left him back (and even that would hide a minor geek-friendly joke).
You see, the summarized issue here is: "Except that the Doctor's daughter was a clone of the Doctor, which meant that she really was Who. So a newer Doctor is marrying an older Doctor's daughter, who is a clone of the newer doctor, but only has half the DNA of the older Doctor", which is very geek-worthy news.
Unless you don't see, of course.
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The sad thing is that it took you this long to ask the right question to cure you of your ignorance, then you said you didn't want to de-ignorantify yourself. I don't really get this. I mean, you're confused about something, so instead of asking questions about it, you'd rather whinge about it then defend your decision to remain ignorant. Why is this? Are you trying to look smart? Is it because you think the original point should be defended and you don't want to take the time to consider that maybe you joined the wrong side of it? Am I just way off the mark, here?
My original post stated this piece is celebrity gossip which you haven't disagreed with. I also noted geeks are ultimately no better or worse than the so called "unwashed masses" which you also agree with. Where pray tell did I whine? What on earth is so important about understanding the desire for celebrity gossip, that you should care whether or not I remain ignorant? And since you think the question "what if I liked Dr. Who" is so important. Tell me, what if I liked it? You certainly chastised me enough for not asking it.
Also, there's no right or wrong to something as trivial as: "is this a kewl/interesting topic."
That also story didn't (and wouldn't have) make it to Slashdot.
I mentioned it to note I'm well aware of fandom's desire to talk about their stars. That's the only reason I can think of for why my opinion of Dr. Who would be a factor in this.
So, the thing that makes this beyond celebrity gossip is the coincidence? I assume then if "slutty amnesiac" #124 and "hunky guy with issues (who's the slut's secret grandfather)" #167 from some random soap opera got together in real life, then this would also elevate it from celebrity gossip?
My original post stated this piece is celebrity gossip which you haven't disagreed with.
Uh yes I did. I disagreed twice. You said 'just celebrity gossip'.
Where pray tell did I whine?
Right at the spot you had just pointed out. The whole bit about geeks and the unwashed masses was an attempt to encourage the point that this story shouldn't have been front page.
What on earth is so important about understanding the desire for celebrity gossip, that you should care whether or not I remain ignorant?
Because it's not about a desire for celebrity gossip.
You certainly chastised me enough for not asking it.
I 'chastised' you because in the same post you wanted to remain ignorant. You clearly didn't want the answer to that question, you were using it to make your point about how you didn't care. So tell me, are you truly interested in understanding it or are you just trying to be defeat me in debate, here?
I mentioned it to note I'm well aware of fandom's desire to talk about their stars.
Sure, and it still worked against your point. The 'nerds' obviously don't care about the goings on of celebrity lives.
Let me know when you actually want to understand. And I really mean 'want to understand' not 'get me to write more you can attempt to argue with'.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
It's not baffling at all, the coincidences surrounding it are fun in a nerdy sort of way.
Ah, you mean the part about how "coincidences surrounding it are fun in a nerdy sort of way?" Why do you think people like gossip? Because there are cool coincidences is just one of the many reasons. Why do you think celebrities who work together (or worked in the same show) and date/marry are so much juicer than two random celebrities dating? Figured you agreed with me on that part. Well, least I know why you're pissed.
Right at the spot you had just pointed out. The whole bit about geeks and the unwashed masses was an attempt to encourage the point that this story shouldn't have been front page.
And how is a difference in opinion whining? Did I use a shrill tone of voice? Did I needlessly insult anyone? For the record, I also consider myself a geek, so the geeks are very much alike to unwashed masses was also directed at me. And I certainly wouldn't consider "geeks are more normal than we might admit" to be insulting. For me, it was more of an epiphany/rude awakening combo.
I 'chastised' you because in the same post you wanted to remain ignorant.
I added that line because when folks start repeating themselves it's generally time to end the discussion by agreeing to disagree.
Sure, and it still worked against your point. The 'nerds' obviously don't care about the goings on of celebrity lives.
Let me know when you actually want to understand. And I really mean 'want to understand' not 'get me to write more you can attempt to argue with'.
This goes back to the original misunderstanding/disagreement which I covered above. We can start debating it, or end this discussion, which honestly is getting a tad too heated for such a trivial topic. I leave it up to you.
Incidentally, I find life is a bit easier if one doesn't automatically assume the person they're talking to is attacking them. Better to ask for clarification first. It's just a thought.
Why do you think celebrities who work together (or worked in the same show) and date/marry are so much juicer than two random celebrities dating?
I dunno, never got into gossip. Whatever the reason, it doesn't explain why this story made the front page but Nana Visitor getting married didn't.
Well, least I know why you're pissed.
Nah, not pissed. Just have a little extra time due to rendering combined with general bafflement of why you're so stuck on it. Oh.. I suppose there's some annoyance in there, too. I mean, I've explained myself 3 times and you still keep boiling it down to 'celebrity gossip'. 'Heated' and 'pissed' do not accurately reflect my intended tone.
And how is a difference in opinion whining?
Because the whole point of the thread is that this story shouldn't have been visible.
I added that line because when folks start repeating themselves it's generally time to end the discussion by agreeing to disagree.
I think you added it because you weren't interested in being proven wrong. I mean, really, your responses do not add up to 'agree to disagree'.
We can start debating it, or end this discussion ... I leave it up to you.
Ah yes, the old "I leave it up to you" debate tactic that conveniently leaves out the option of 'discussion'. Sorry, no, not my responsibility. I already offered to explain.
Incidentally, I find life is a bit easier if one doesn't automatically assume the person they're talking to is attacking them. Better to ask for clarification first. It's just a thought.
Ah, while we're trading tips and tricks I've picked up when talking to other people: Are people acting insanely? They have a non-sensical opinion? Are they repeating themselves over and over again? Ask questions. Try reading their post and seeing if you missed the point of what they're saying. If you take a little time to understand why their behaving in such an odd way, you may discover that they're not crazy at all! Remember back in the olden days when you first started turning into a nerd... you were inquisitive and had a desire to learn? Start nurturing that desire again. The world won't seem so wacky, you'll grow as a person, and you won't go around the bush over and over again because you're too thick to understand a critical bit of nuance.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Because the whole point of the thread is that this story shouldn't have been visible.
And again what pray tell is so terrible about believing that? Not every negative comment is whining ya know. What, does the fact that I don't find much value in this little joke that bothersome?
I think you added it because you weren't interested in being proven wrong. I mean, really, your responses do not add up to 'agree to disagree'.
What do you think agree to disagree is? It's I totally don't agree with your viewpoint, but I don't feel like debating it for whatever reason.
Ah yes, the old "I leave it up to you" debate tactic that conveniently leaves out the option of 'discussion'. Sorry, no, not my responsibility. I already offered to explain.
What? I've responded to everything you've written so far. I've no problem continuing this little chat. I wrote that because the discussion was heading into a talk about what makes up celebrity gossip. An even more pointless and inane topic that I wasn't not sure you (or I for that matter) wanted to spend time talking about. What was it you said about asking questions, and rereading things? Physician, heal thyself...
"Who gives this woman to be married to this man?"
"Yes."
"No, I mean who's giving away the bride?"
"That's right."
"... we may be here a while."
What, does the fact that I don't find much value in this little joke that bothersome?
What's bothersome? Attributing it to the wrong reason... with a dash of elitism thrown in. There's also the "I don't wanna keep this going but every period I use is intended to keep it aflame" debate tactic. But, also, there's the entertainment value of going around the drain over and over again but pushing your head above water a bit and claiming you're on higher ground. It's a laugh.
It's I totally don't agree with your viewpoint, but I don't feel like debating it for whatever reason.
Really? You're asking this? Blimey. Look, it's real simple: "I respect your point, can't say I can hop aboard it." As opposed to: "I demonstratably don't understand your point, but you're wrong, so we agree to disagree so I can get the last word in."
What? I've responded to everything you've written so far.
With the intention of 'winning', sure. There's more I could put here, you'll find it scattered amongst my previous comments. Keyword: "question".
What was it you said about asking questions, and rereading things? Physician, heal thyself...
Oh look, your (in)actions are my fault again. Heh. Good thing ol' Doc Zimmerman gave your comment a little added ammo for dramatic effect, mm?
So here's a summary of where you still are: Slashdot should have had a story about Doctor Who hidden away in the Idle section because it is purely celebrity gossip and you are sure of this even though you don't watch the show and Slashdot hasn't covered anything like this before so it must be as simple as you've stated it and it's all happening through a fault of mine.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Really? You're asking this? Blimey. Look, it's real simple: "I respect your point, can't say I can hop aboard it." As opposed to: "I demonstratably don't understand your point, but you're wrong, so we agree to disagree so I can get the last word in."
What the hell did I write that made you think I meant disagreeing w/o understanding the other person?
I totally don't agree with your viewpoint, but I don't feel like debating it for whatever reason.
See the word "viewpoint" there? Yea, to know that ya kind of have to know the other persons POV. And yes, I understand your POV. Two celebrities are getting married, their characters in a sense played the same person, so there's a myriad of jokes. Hardy har har. Least that's all you said on that topic so far. I already responded to that.
Finally, yes the fact that you insisted on reading everything I write in a negative light is your fault. I've hurled no insults at you. Everything you have against me, you insinuated because apparently misunderstanding someone and continuing an inane conversation equals I disrespect you, or something.
Finally, yes the fact that you insisted on reading everything I write in a negative light is your fault. I've hurled no insults at you.
Uh, no. First there's the bit about the unwashed masses. Since I found the story amusing, that includes me. Then there's the continual oversimplification of what it is, then intentionally dodging any understanding of it. Then there's the attempt to darken my character to distract from your own behaviour. Etc, etc, etc.
Not my fault.
Anyway, getting past all that...
I'm doing this because you've misinterpreted a lot of what I wrote.
Okay. What did I misinterpret?
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
"If such things are ok for shows that we like, then geeks are no better than the unwashed masses we so love to denigrate. Course, I believe that's always been the case."
First off, I assumed you, me, and slashdot in general are geeks. There's a reason I used "we" in the post. Also, Dr. Who is generally seen as a geeky show. The "unwashed masses" geeks love to denigrate (at least on
Then I say we're no better than the unwashed masses. The possibilities here are I'm either insulting both geeks, and everyone else (by saying we're both unwashed masses). Or, I'm saying unwashed masses are better than some give credit for (by saying geeks are not so special compared to them). Since I'd be insulting myself if I meant the former, I assumed people would think I meant the latter. But yes, I should spell things out more clearly next time.
Then there's the continual oversimplification of what it is, then intentionally dodging any understanding of it.
So, this slashdot article is more meaningful than two actors simply making a funny couple due to the characters they played? Then please, spell it out. You've been dancing around this topic choosing instead to constantly insist I just don't understand.
So, this slashdot article is more meaningful than two actors simply making a funny couple due to the characters they played?
Yup.
Then please, spell it out. You've been dancing around this topic choosing instead to constantly insist I just don't understand.
Ah... again I am to blame for your behaviour. Like I said before, I'm just waiting for you to ask so we can have a discussion and not a debate. It's a bit hard to do that when the tone you're putting forward is "I'm unconvinced no matter what you say."
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Ah... again I am to blame for your behaviour. Like I said before, I'm just waiting for you to ask so we can have a discussion and not a debate. It's a bit hard to do that when the tone you're putting forward is "I'm unconvinced no matter what you say."
You do note that I asked you to explain in the previous post yes? Somehow me asking you to not dance around the topic makes you... not want to tell me, aka. dance around the topic? Anywho, to my recollection, all you've said to me to explain your position is:
"The coincidences surrounding it are amusing. Of course you have to be nerdy enough to appreciate them. (ahhh... nerdy smugness!)"
and
"It's not baffling at all, the coincidences surrounding it are fun in a nerdy sort of way."
Perhaps I missed something. Please tell me what. Also, what makes you think I want a serious clash of mind and will for a topic like this? Yes, I want a discussion. A casual one to boot.
Perhaps I missed something. Please tell me what. Also, what makes you think I want a serious clash of mind and will for a topic like this? Yes, I want a discussion. A casual one to boot.
Thank you. Seriously, this is what I wanted. See how there aren't any potshots at me in there? I really don't want to argue. All I do want is to be understood. That's not. Not right, not agreed with, simply understood.
Okay, done preaching. I'll explain this to you by writing to you the thoughts in my head as I read the article:
In a veritable Who's Who of Doctor Who, 10th Doctor David Tennant is marrying Georgia Moffett...
BFD.
"...the daughter of 5th Doctor Peter Davison..."
Heh. Weird... not long ago Peter Davison was in a Children in Need short... Hah I bet that's related to it! Dang, he was a neat guy. Haha I bet Doctor #5 wouldn't have found her attractive at all, he seemed more impressed with chicks that could fly the Tardis!
"...who played the Doctor's daughter in an episode of Doctor Who."
Wait.. what... really? When did that happen? The only one I can think of is back in the 60's...
"Except that the Doctor's daughter was a clone of the Doctor, which meant that she really was Who."
Oh... right... that dumbshit episode. Haha that's funny tho... she's the Doctor's daughter and also the Doctor's Daughter! But not really.. it's like we have a daughter and no daughter... Oh, hey, maybe I can score a +3 Funny by making a HitchHiker's reference!
" So a newer Doctor is marrying an older Doctor's daughter, who is a clone of the newer doctor, but only has half the DNA of the older Doctor"
Wow... We should all thank Russel Davies for kicking off events in such a way that this sentence would actually have been uttered. Good thing my fanboyish knowledge of the show made this sentence understandable... barely.
So how's this different from other celebrity gossip? For starters.... well really, that last line doesn't utterly cover it? Seriously, you really need to be a Doctor Who nerd to fully appreciate what was said there. That bit with Nana Visitor, you wouldn't need to explain nothin. She got pregnant and they worked it into the show. You can't explain the significance of "The Doctor's Daughter" without losing people's interest by getting into the details to make it an accurate statement. Even if you explain it, you're still missing the Doctor's reaction to her throughout the entire episode. I'll give you an idea, he named her "Jen".. short for "Genetic clone". That's how legitimately he thought of her.
Like I said, you'll notice the lack of other stories like this on Slashdot. It's all about the last line.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Thanks for elaborating your POV. Though I do note I already knew all that. The reason I kept things short and said "fun couple" is because it was already obvious why the fans think they are a fun couple. You've watched the episodes so the summary could be parsed, and got an extra kick of humor. Happens all the time in fandom. Though the coincidence is unique I guess. I understood the summary thanks to watching a whole lot of other sci-fi, and knowing about the Doctor's clone/daughter, but yea wasn't as interested.
A Who's Who? :)
Thanks for the reply!
/. and don't really pay attention to the bells and whistles. :shrug:
I'm going to have to go back and watch the early seasons - they sound good. I guess its probably because I sort of look like Eccleston and can relate to him more, or perhaps he's *my* first doctor, which accounts for him being my favorite, even though Tennant was a great doctor. I'm almost done with season 5, and while Smith does a decent job, he seems... Young? Something like that...
Also, how do I see your sig? I just read
Your typical random soap opera has no time-travelling paradoxes, and the typical DNA related questions in soap operas is "who's the father?", not "who's not the same person in this marriage?" so the answer to both your questions is "no". There's already a BadAnalogyGuy username here, so you might consider taking a TotallyUnfortunateAnalogyGuy username for you. Try cars next time.
Even if you understood what almost everyone found funny and geek-worthy news, you're obviously way past the point of admitting it, and my answer here won't help either.
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