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Sony Gets Geohot's Hardware, But Not YouTube/Twitter User Info
RedEaredSlider writes "A Federal court in California has denied Sony's motion to pull the personal information of Twitter and YouTube users who might have downloaded code that allows PlayStation 3s to run with alternative operating systems. The company had filed a motion for discovery, asking for the personal information of users of Twitter and YouTube who might have a connection with George Hotz, who had published a piece of code on his Web site that allowed a PlayStation 3 to run other operating systems as well as pirated games. Sony was, in essence, asking for the contact information of people who had commented on the video Hotz posted showing how he used the code, as well as people he may have corresponded with via Twitter. The judge in the case, Susan Illston, denied the motion. Hotz is still under a restraining order that forbids him from offering any methods or software that allow people to modify their Sony PlayStation 3s. Nor is he allowed to provide links to sites that offer such methods or software. He is also ordered to turn over his computers to Sony."
Fuck Sony.
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Why isn't George Hotz (GeoHot) having a third party do the discovery on his computer(s)?
Then his lawyer and him sit down with the 3rd party to go over their discovery and assert privilege on what they feel should not be shared.
Finally, the Judge makes a decision on the privilege claims and only then does Sony get to see anything.
At least that's usually how these things work when you don't want the other side trolling through your papers or hard drives.
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That's funny 46 DC EA D3 17 FE 45 D8 09 23 EB 97 E4 95 64 10 D4 CD B2 C2
"Sorry, Sony. The hard drive is encrypted with a 35 character password and 3DES/AES.. Darn it! I knew I should have used a shorter password..because you see, I forgot it! So sorry about that."
We need comments from a lawyer.
Since when the demandant can confiscate property of the person is accusing?
They could plant anything they want.
At most hardware should be confiscated by the Feds and be examined by them or a recognized 3rd party.
BSD licensed software can't be stolen....
That 46 DC EA D3 17 FE 45 D8 09 23 EB 97 E4 95 64 10 D4 CD B2 C2 is a funny number indeed. It's like sig-worthy.
Yet...
I'm sure sometime in the future, it'll be seen as being an adversary in criminal activity... by some twisted legal standing.
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from 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
to 45 2F 6E 40 3C DF 10 71 4E 41 DF AA 25 7D 31 3F
Well, sort of. 95% of the break was done by fail0verflow, who I think it's safe to say don't hold Hotz or his motives in particularly high regard. They quite deliberately stopped at the point where they could run homebrew unrestricted, since going further had no use other than piracy. Predictably, Hotz did that extra part and released it as a pirate-friendly "jailbreak.zip".
Whilst the DMCA is total bullshit, it's hard to feel too much sympathy for him. He did something that had no purpose other than enabling piracy / cheating, he surely knew that was a DMCA violation, and he attached his name to it loud and proud. His defence will probably try to argue that the jailbreaking exemption applied to cellphones should be extended to consoles, but it seems far more likely he did this for purely egotistical reasons than as high-minded civil disobedience.
You act like it's Sony's fault that our justice system lets them get away with this crap.
I went to eat some animal crackers and the box said, "Do not eat if seal is broken." I opened the box and sure enough..
The root cause of our clusterfuck of a political system is money. People don't win elections unless they outspend their opponents, so they have to sell themselves to the highest bidder to get campaign funds. Once they're in office, it's time to pay the piper. American politics are dominated by special interests. Same reason real budget reform isn't happening: every little cut you make is going to piss off at least one of the monied interest groups that got you into office. What do you do? Cut things that benefit people who have no money, like public assistance programs. Poor people have no money and usually don't vote, so they're easy to fuck over.
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This is like buying a computer and then being told you can only run Windows on it. If want want to risk bricking my system, I should be allowed to do it.
Void the warranty...no problem. But you bought it. You should be able to run any damn system you want on it.
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
If Geohot is reading this, startup a donation website. I'm sure the world at large would be more than happy to send you replacement parts enough to build your own Beowulf cluster if you really wanted to.
I'd have to think that Geohot has encrypted the contents of some files or perhaps his entire hard drive. Can he be legally required to divulge passwords? He's certainly savvy enough to use hidden containers.
IMHO - any civil disobedience, high-minded or not, is just fine in my book. Whatever his motivation, he's now fighting the good fight. Either get behind him or don't.
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
No one's trying anything anymore. The current genetically modified crops do not produce seeds that can be replanted.
Personnaly I don't like saying that I will 'NEVER' buy from 'X' again. I normaly punish them with a term of non-buying from 1 to 5 years depending on the offense 'X' did against the universe.
In Sony's case; they got 5 years (with no parole) from me in 2005 following that small 'rootkit on CDs' incident. I respected their sentence and only last december I purchased a VAIO i7 740m laptop. Looks like it's gonna be another 5 years... Stupid pricks...