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New Nintendo HD Console Rumors Abound
pcgfx805 writes "Game Informer has reportedly received word from 'multiple sources' that a new HD console from Nintendo will be debuting at this year's E3. They report on conflicting information regarding the power of the console compared to the other current-gen consoles, but go on to speculate that 'Either way it will offer competitive specifications.'"
This year's E3 is scheduled for June 7-9.
As long as they have Mario games I'll piss my money away on it.
I have no doubt Nintendo will make a next-gen console, and I have no doubt it'll support HD. None of this is really new or interesting.
However, my questions are:
1. Will it support backwards compatibility with the Wii? (I expect it will.)
2. Will it allow save games to be copied off the Wii onto the new console? (AFAIK, this only applies to games with online components, but some game saves are locked to the console.)
3. Will it allow Virtual Console and WiiWare purchases to be transferred?
That last one is a deal-breaker for me. If you can't copy your existing digital purchases off the Wii onto whatever the next-gen Nintendo console is, forget it.
This is one thing that Microsoft and Sony do right: all you need to do to use your digital purchases on a new console is log in.
With Nintendo, you simply can't use them on anything but the original hardware. And if the hardware fails (which has happened to me twice), your only recourse is to ship it back to Nintendo and have them fix it, or lose any downloaded games you may have purchased.
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Its quite obvious to do, how long they can hold on to standard definition formats ? They had to make a move and they have to make it fast before ps4 and xbox720 chomps away the next gen.
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My bet is that this is the first console to really lunge at a complete online storefront pushing casual games.
In the era of Netflix and Apple's AppStore model of buying games at GameStop needs to officially die. Nintendo is poised to be the first to put online sales above all others because they're the least reliant on third party publishers.
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So what the Wii has no Gods of war :-)
And none of the Consoles have a decent Gothic 1 and 2
Dude. Nintendo actually helps you and your serious gaming. By diverting all the casuals on a single system they ensure your PSBox market is not marred with family games.
You might make a stronger case if you could list three decent games released this year. Hell, even in the past year. The most recent game on your list is already two years old, the others are three and four. If that's not the sign of a console at the end of its natural life then I'm not sure what is.
I will be pissed if Nintendo releases anything but a console with power equivalent to the current generation. The last thing I want to do is worry about how I'm going to convert my AC supplied power into whatever new fandangled, "innovative" power Nintendo comes up with.
Making you far from the target audience. Owning Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja does not make you a gamer, GTFO.
Makes me wonder why there are no hits on Google for goatscape rendering....
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I suppose that this is one unintended benefit of releasing an underpowered console for the current generation.
Nintendo is releasing a new platform at a point when the 360 and PS3 platforms are starting to stagnate, resorting to parlor tricks like the Kinect and Move to cover up the fact that it's not economically viable to release a new "next generation" platform at this point in time.
If they handle the new home console the same way they handled the 3DS, many people should be very happy. Backwards compatibility, data transfers, a more fully-featured eShop with non-game media, and a large assortment of large titles and large window titles... I'm looking forward to it.
You are seriously downplaying the advances in each case. Please do not be fooled by retrospective appearances.
The SNES was a major leap forward from the NES. Major. It's difficult to really stress this enough. Nintendo were riding high from the huge success of the NES and built a worthy successor. The breadth, depth and variety of SNES games is a testament to the capability of the system, capability which simply did not exist on the NES in any fashion.
Mode 7 is the obvious feature here, but the sheer level of improvements in basic functionality opened up a new world of potential in games. Just compare say, Super Metroid, with the original game, or consider the entirely new Genre's like 2D fighters which came to consoles during this time. The NES could not have supported these games or anything even resembling them.
The Gamecube is similar, though comparisons with contemporary rivals can skew things. However, it suffices to say that even a game like Luigi's Mansion would never have fit on the N64.
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> Owning Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja does not make you a gamer, GTFO.
Some people would say that owning a Wii doesn't make you a gamer.
iOS has Final Fantasy IV, Eternal Legacy, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, Sonic, Worms, Tiger Woods, Madden and now World of Goo so I'll be busy for quite awhile playing my non-console games. ...And I can use an iPhone or iPad to securely tunnel into my home network to run or stream almost anything on my PC.
Oh, well. Guess I'm not a "gamer" anymore. For some silly reason I feel no sense of loss.
How about De Blob 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2 (which GP may have meant instead of the original), DK Country Returns, Raving Rabbids: Travel in Time, Pro Evolution Soccer, Just Dance 2, I could go on, especially if I include WiiWare games.
Just because they're not your cup of tea doesn't make them bad games.You wouldn't believe how much fun my wife and I have with Just Dance 2. Granted the games I play have changed since I was married and had kids, but I don't see that as a bad thing. I still have as much fun as I used to. Maybe more because I don't avoid "crap" games that are actually tons of fun.
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In addition, this console will also support the 3D functionality of the the 3DS. While you are playing, simply have two of your friends lift the flatscreen TV from each side and position it at various angles while you stand stationary.
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Announcing a new console at this years E3 is all well and good, but announcing that it is coming out in LATE 2012 is giving themselves 1 1/2 years for people NOT to buy a Wii before then, even with the previously rumored $150 price cut. Might also cause some people to hold out on a new Zelda purchase waiting for the HD version (which they should be making).
Nintendo should definitely add some more features to appeal to the older gamers. I grew up with nintendo, love the mario / zelda franchise, and have owned every single one of their consoles. The Wii, while revolutionary for its time for its motion controls, was a bit behind in the graphics / processing department. Thank god it at least had component video outputs but even then it doesn't do justice to those of us who have large HD sets.. However as an aging (30-something) gamer, my tastes have changed. Sometimes after a rotten day at work futzing with IDEs, I want to decompress with a FPS, blowing stuff up with occasional blood and gore. Or perhaps after navigating through a bunch of idiot socialites blocking the grocery store coffee aisle I want to play stuff like mass effect w/ foul language and pseudo-nudity. (Big boobed, aliens in painted-on bodysuits FTMFW! And yes, I do enjoy a cartoonish games (like mariokart) w/ friends when we all get together during special occasions. Some suggestions for Nintendo: 1) improve online play - lose the 'friend code' nonsense. 2) incorporate some sort of HDD / flash drive to store games to *entirely* eliminate need to change discs. this would be HUGE in my opinion. Even if its an add-on module, at least give us an option. I can see this posing some piracy concerns though. 3) incorporate HDMI and digital output. Cut the whole "Composite Video and RCA Stereo out" cord 4) Gig-E jack on back. wireless is OK but some of us actually have dedicated ethernet drops behind our entertainment centers for this very purpose. 5) allow linking up of multiple consoles to improve localized multiplayer gameplay and allow use of more than one screen, more than 4 players at parties and such. and finally... 6) for the love of god, please let Mario and Link get laid one of these games. They've been saving those freakin princess girls for almost 30years now and they never put out. WTF is up with that?
How about De Blob 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2 (which GP may have meant instead of the original), DK Country Returns, Raving Rabbids: Travel in Time, Pro Evolution Soccer, Just Dance 2, I could go on, especially if I include WiiWare games.
Just because they're not your cup of tea doesn't make them bad games.You wouldn't believe how much fun my wife and I have with Just Dance 2. Granted the games I play have changed since I was married and had kids, but I don't see that as a bad thing. I still have as much fun as I used to. Maybe more because I don't avoid "crap" games that are actually tons of fun.
Including just dance into your argument isnt gonna work when you try to convince any of the "hard core gamers" that the wii has just as much noteworthy titles as the 360/ps3.
From what i see, nintendo's problem isnt console sales, it's attach rate. If 90% of wii owners are family people who have it to play wii-golf and just-dance when they have family over, they wont be selling as many games as sony/microsoft, where the typical owner buys/plays many more games
People, what a bunch of bastards
any new zelda would probably get the twilight princes treatment, skip release for the current gen, polish it up a bit, and release early on the next-gen console
People, what a bunch of bastards
I thought that was the Wii...
The NES had 2d fighters. TMNT Tournament was one I played a lot of. 2D fighters were not new to the console with the SNES.
Which was a terrible port of a vastly superior SNES game. The gameboy had mortal kombat too. I don't know if these examples really count.
His overall point was that the super nintendo was vastly improved platform compared to the nes, not a mere graphical upgrade.
The comparison between super metroid and metroid is an excellent one. Or compare super mario 3 (the nes's most advanced game at the time) to super mario world. (a launch game)
The only generation that was not a huge leap forward was the Wii. Even the gamecube was as much of a jump (actually more so) as the PSX to PS2 was. Nintendo seems more interested in introducing new forms of gameplay much more than improving the relative power of their machines. Even the 3DS is not much more improved than say a PSP graphically. In fact it has a lower resolution.
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I'm having a hard time believing something and you sound like you could confirm it:
Does Call of Duty 4 actually exist? As in, they made the same game 4 times with insignificant changes and morons like you actually keep buying it in large enough numbers to make it profitable?
In defense of the article, it did have some concrete conclusions, e.g.:
"There are conflicting reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or fall short of those systems.
There hasn't been a worthwhile Final Fantasy game in over a decade. Square has been running off of fumes since the Playstation 1 era.
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Doesn't mean much if they're going to be the same craptastic Fusion/Other M garbage instead of the Prime style or the beloved Metroidvania.
So some random rumours, about something that may or may not happen at some or other time, this way or another...
This is /. front-page how exactly?
It generates comments.
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The problem is that "hard core gamers" are mostly idiots. They think that high definition is more important than art direction. They think that 7.1 audio is more important than a good sound engineer. They think that realistic explosions are more important than a fun game. I attribute it to most of them being uncultured in anything except video games.
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Jesus was a liberal
You sure you want to make that argument to defend a console that plays the thirteenth through fifteenth mainline Mario games and the twelfth and fifteenth mainline Zelda games?
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I would say exactly the opposite. The Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja playing crowed is EXACTLY Nintendo's demographic. You know, 90% of the population, who don't care if they have the best tech, want to be able to play for 10 or 15 minutes at a time, and look at price as their first deciding factor.
Announcing a new console at this years E3 is all well and good, but announcing that it is coming out in LATE 2012 is giving themselves 1 1/2 years for people NOT to buy a Wii before then, even with the previously rumored $150 price cut. Might also cause some people to hold out on a new Zelda purchase waiting for the HD version (which they should be making).
They're not doing anything out of the norm. The bigger concern is they tell their competitors how to update their machines to minimize the impact. (see Rumble Pak.)
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
You've obviosuly never done serious game development
Sorry, I was under the impression that /. was a site for nerds of all backgrounds, not just game development nerds. Apparently I was mistaken.
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I can see how some games would be awesome on a pad and others would be beyond horrible (twitchy FPS). If nothing else, it could make that evil arrow/slingshot minigame in Ocarina of Time easy as pie... My Wii classic controller is way too underutilized to be loose enough to do well at that game.
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The CPU was also a 16-bit version of the processor used in the NES at double the clock speed, and additionally the SPC sound system developed by Sony in the SNES was incredibly state of the art hardware at the time. It was actually a complete co-processor, with it's own 64kb of memory and sophisticated DSP chips. Compare some SNES soundtracks to the FM beeps and blips of the Sega Genesis (not to say beeps and blips aren't awesome), but yeah, I suppose if you disregard the substantial CPU improvement, and the revolutionary graphics and sound improvements it's really nothing special.
...and a damned good Final Fantasy game (stick it, Sony!) at launch or it's not going to work to distract me from my iPad.
So it needs an SNES emulator too? When was the last "damned good" FF game? VII? IX was passable. X forced me to play soccer (sorry, water rugby) against my will, and XII let me play the game while not even in the same room, and somehow turned into a game about boring political intrigue in boring fantasy lands. XIII might be good, but I haven't really cared enough to try.
I've been replaying IV,V, and VI on an old used GBA lately. Old Square was awesome. Squenix, not so much.
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Close. WiiII.
The Mario games tend to change up quite a bit between iterations, but I'll conceed on the Zelda point. And yet...I must have it!
When Wii 3 to come out, then I can make jokes about being the third wheel. "I wanna play the Wii." "Mii too." "Mii three."
What do you mean, "skip release"? Twilight Princess was released on GC (and Wii).
Considering that TMNT Tournament was a multi-system simultaneous release(NES, SNES, Genesis, and possibly others that I don't know about), it doesn't really count. You also can't compare the NES version to the SNES version. There just wasn't enough room for highly detailed sprites, and you only had two action buttons to work with as opposed to the 6 that the SNES had. At least with the SNES they were able to make (near)True to Arcade ports of some of the big names like Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat (this is where the "nearly" comes in).
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It hasn't been announced and the hype is beginning. I don't know what you are talking about. There will be plenty of hype once it is announced.
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