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Google+ Runs Out of Disk Space, Swamps Users With Notifications
dkd903 writes "Yesterday, many users of Google+ noticed Google spamming their inbox with multiple email notifications in very quick succession. Earlier today, Vic Gundotra, Head of Social at Google, explained what was causing it – Google ran out of disk space on the server that keeps track of notifications."
Google did the same mistake here they've done several times earlier.. They published an unfinished product on a market that is already established and has the giant pain of trying to get users to move to their service. This included with the constant problems on Google+, not really offering anything new and even bigger privacy problems than with Facebook really isn't doing good. It was hot for a few days when coming out of beta.. Now I feel like it's going to die a slow death with no interest from casual people.
Never run out of disk no more !! And I am not a gillion dollar company in case you thought so !!
"Dam this is harder than it appeared at first glance." Enjoy.
This ain't no upwardly mobile freeway This is the road to hell
Google did the same mistake here they've done several times earlier.. They published an unfinished product...
No, they're field testing an unfinished product. It's the reason why it's hard to get an invite.
...on a market that is already established and has the giant pain of trying to get users to move to their service.
They don't seem to be having much difficulty getting users to move to their service. In fact, most of their difficulties lies in slowing down the demand because they can't handle it at this stage of testing, as shown by this particular problem. It's expanding way faster than they want it to, with more than a million users already signed up (according to TFA). I've sent invites to a bunch of people, and none of them have actually gotten the invitation mail yet, because google is throttling the number of invites they send.
This included with the constant problems on Google+
Field testing. Finding bugs is the purpose of this.
not really offering anything new and even bigger privacy problems than with Facebook really isn't doing good.
What are these even bigger privacy problems? Google+ is centered around increased privacy controls, which is also what they're offering that's new.
Now I feel like it's going to die a slow death with no interest from casual people.
Pff...considering that a few days after they began public testing, Google+ was among the top 10 referrers to web sites, it's more likely that Facebook will die a quick death as soon as field testing is over. About as quick as myspace died once facebook opened up to non-university students.
... all I can said is that FB has nothing to worry about. The interface is utterly boring, the circles are way too hard to set up, you can't tell who you shared your posts with, and I still can't figure out how to post on someone's wall. Oh, and posting a photo, uggg. Maybe it's fixable, but this is not an encouraging start.
I finally got an invite yesterday from a friend. It still needs a bit of tweaking but hands down the best social website since Facebook was nice and clean back in the day. The fact that it's rising this fast should make some people over at Facebook a bit worried. I'm going to finally start transitioning.
Back in the day Facebook was only .edu and thus didn't have the lowest common denominator on it. We used to make fun of people on MySpace for "ThEiR HoRiBLZ Grammer" and such. But if you start reading LameBook or Failbook this group of people is now over on Facebook. And as long as Google+ remains invite only, I can't see them ever getting over to Google+.
CSB:
Facebook royally screwed me when they did the automated bans of numerous apps. My app. User 1 (me).. Was caught up in it.
When my grandma died I was tasked with scanning in family photos. I needed a faster way to upload them so I wrote my app. I had thousands, if not tens of thousands of photos uploaded, sorted, tagged. Most of my large family isn't the most technological, and facebook was much easier than Gallery. Plus they could tag each other, comment on the photos "Oh this is when Dad took us to that beach and set the house on fire" etc. When the auto ban bot came through it was all gone. My appeal reply was boiler plated. "Sorry our bot says you're doing spamming." Unlike some people, I do still have all the photos. (It looks like there were numerous photo uploading apps that got caught up in the ban.)
Thankfully with my app it only took about 24 hours of my bandwidth to reupload them, but all of the additional value added metadata that was lost. (I am not retagging them). Any photo less than 2048x2048 doesn't count towards your 1GB Picasa (Google+ Photos?) quota. I've already started looking at the PHP Google API. I'm hoping to have all my photos up there soon. Anyone that wants to see any new photos I take, will follow me to Google+.
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...how about making a new category for Google news releases? This will make it easier for those of us who want to filter out the relentless stream of non-interesting Google news. Talk about editorial bias to the extreme.
Erm, is there not simple script in place to discard all notifications when the server has 1000/500/50mb of space left? or maybe the smarter way, delete oldest to make room for newest. Even my Android phone has this. Is that not something google do?
*scratches head*
if there were consequencies to who you invite to the network, then maybe it would protect the network from trash. but that isn't the case with G+, and likely the whole invite thing will go away once it's a little more mature.
"Yesterday, many users of Google+ noticed Google spamming their inbox..."
Yesterday some users of Google+ noticed Google spamming their inbox.
There, fixed that for you.
I, e.g., did not get spammed, (And yes, I have a g+ account.)
you can't tell who you shared your posts with
This is not actually true. First of all, you choose who to share with. Unless you posted something as 'public' you do have an idea of who you are sharing with. On the post itself (again, unless you posted something as public) you can click on the little link that says 'limited' and it will show you who it was shared with. If you are concerned about people RE-sharing your post, then you can disable resharing on a post as well. Naturally there is always a way for people to republish what you posted, manually, with good old copy/paste, to get around these controls, but why would you have people like this in your circles of trust to begin with?
I still can't figure out how to post on someone's wall.
there is no wall. If you want to share a post with one person, then you specify that one person while you are creating your post.
the circles are way too hard to set up
Really? Dragging and dropping in a visual interface is 'too hard'? What did you expect? That it read your mind?
P.S. If you're just trolling, it's kind of obvious.
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I guess it is only inevitable. Some people (most?) despise MS, some people (me) despise apple. IMHO Google has always been forthcoming with genuine and (for the most part timely reasons why they have or have had a problem. I have always had good luck and good experiences with Google, even when we went to Google Apps at the plant. I have found Google+ to be a better experience (so far) than FB. Of course they will need to load it up with a bunch of useless games to attract the masses over from FB. I suppose this post now qualifies me as a "Google Fan Boy" and fair game for the flamers, so have at it if that is what makes you happy. Google is Skynet and I am a Droid Borg.
320GB ought to be enough space for anybody.
My biggest issue so far, beyond none of my friends having it yet, is that it doesn't support Opera. But by the same token, Facebook broke compatibility with Opera nearly every time they made a minor interface change. I stopped using FB for a year or so until they fixed the issues causing it to run horribly under Opera. Now FB runs equally horrible in all browsers.
How are the privacy problems possibly bigger than Facebook's? Also, it seems like Google+ is focused on privacy, contrary to your statement.
I doubt Google actually would run out of disk space. Aren't they supposed to have a megasuperduper cluster ? After all they brag about it enough, how they use cheap components and build their own racks and whatnot....
It is a publicity stunt that is all it is.
Wow, hell hath truly frozen over....
Need more proof that the world is coming to an end in 2012? :D
An announced test run was not a good idea. I would like to have gotten an invite and looked everywhere for a means of access. Others probably did the same. Some must have been successful. As a test it would have to be called a success because the demand is obviously there. I'll bet it's up and running again before one would imagine. It probably is all hype. Personnally I am miffed that I didn't get an invite, or did I?
The OP is totally disingenuous -- the Google+ service having trouble due to it being overrun by interested users is hardly a sign that it's about to die a slow death due to lack of interest.
One day soon, our best and brightest scientists will create a way to alert operations staff about discs reaching 90% capacity so action can be taken before they reach 100%. In that utopia, this sort of thing won't happen.
Why couldn't they just name it Google Spot, you know G-Spot for short. That's hip and trendy.
My favorite introduction to Google plus was it scanning my gmails, then asking me if I want to add my ex-wife. WTF?! is wrong with you Google?!
Lets not even get into the lack of public groups/circles, what a fiasco. I'm not going to add 500+ people individually to make a group.
This is almost on par of Google Wave, waited weeks to get in, and nobody was on to make it useful. Google killed it off by a horrible launch. This time its a horrible lunch and major flaws. I like Google, but too many people are giving undo fan praise and not real evaluation of the product.
That certainly does not seem to be the case. I found a large group of my friends are already on and a number of others were interested in joining, though we tend to be more technical than average.
This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal.
In fact, facebook has bigger privacy problems than google+. Here are a few examples:
Facebook thinks they own your friends list, and actively try to block you from downloading it: http://news.yahoo.com/facebook-blocks-friend-exporter-plugin-053907002.html. Google+, on the other hand, has a "data liberation" tool that lets you download all of your infromation in a few clicks.
Facebook does not let you prevent people from tagging you in photos. You can remove the tags, but not stop them from appearing in the first place. Google+ lets you configure this, and I have set it so all tags of myself have to be vetted by me.
Facebook is run by someone who calls his customers "dumb fucks" for being so stupid to give him their data.
Who else has a sneaking suspicion that this story and the one after it are ... connected, hm? :-)
I still haven't even used 1% of my Gmail's space, they can have some of mine.
This is a perplexing no-brainer error. Afterall, this is the company that has brought us so much, underpinned by writing or rewriting the book on datacenters, storage and databases. I understand that its field testing or in Google-speak "Beta", but "running out of disk space"? +3 for communicating what the issue was and apologizing. -5 for it happening in the first place.
In the flurry of sending out all the other extra notifications, it forgot to send one to itself about disk space.
Hope that clears things up for you.
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I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
So dumb, it made me wonder...
Incompetence or Sabotage??
Don't tell me the Google tech guy went on holiday?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Certainly there are situations where IT workers are overworked & under-appreciated.
But I've also seen plenty of situations where the main IT guy(s) want it both ways - they want supreme power & control, they hide information, they explain very little, they try to make themselves irreplaceable - but they bitch when they take a long weekend out of town & they're on the phone the whole time because the network that they didn't document or explain is down.