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Terror Attack On Norwegian Government
techtech sends this quote from the BBC:
"A large bomb blast has hit near government headquarters in the Norwegian capital Oslo, killing at least one person. The offices of Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg were damaged extensively — a government spokeswoman said he was safe. Police said a number of people were injured in the city center explosion. No-one has said they were behind the attack, which witnesses said could be heard across the capital."
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While this is definitely news that matters, I thought this was stuff for nerds. Are we reporting news in general?
According to ABC news:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/oslo-explosion-blast-result-massive-vehicle-bomb-sources/story?id=14134197
Earlier this month, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terrorism charges against an Iraqi-born cleric who had allegedly threatened the lives of Norwegian politicians. Mullah Krekar, the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam, said in a news conference in 2010 that if he was deported from Norway he would be killed and, therefore, Norwegian politicians deserved the same fate, according to an AP report. The Norwegian government had considered deporting Krekar because he was seen as a national security threat.
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Only the headline makes the claim. Do they have gas lines in Norway?
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C'mon now.. how many readers here are from Norway or would know anybody there that might be affected?
Please stay in your lane editors and stick with real news for nerds.
So far there is confirmed 2 dead and 15 injured by NRK news. It is confirmed that it was a car bomb.
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I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with this: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1644803.php/Norway-to-scale-back-contribution-to-Libya-no-fly-zone-operation and everything to do with them hating Norway for their freedom.
Two people have died so far.
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1343139/bombe-var-aarsag-til-eksplosion/
(Link is in Danish)
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if they didn't hit a real civilian target but a government target, or even a military base?
...all countries of Western Europe, with the support of NATO, the CIA, and MI6, had set up stay-behind armies as precaution against a potential Soviet invasion. While the safety networks and the integrity of the majority of the secret soldiers should not be criticized in hindsight after the collapse of the Soviet Union, very disturbing questions do arise with respect to reported links to terrorism.
There exist large differences among the European countries, and each case must be analyzed individually in further detail. As of now, the evidence suggests the secret armies in the seven countries, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Austria, and the Netherlands, focused exclusively on their stay-behind function and were not linked to terrorism. However, links to terrorism have been either confirmed or claimed in the nine countries, Italy, Ireland, Turkey, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, and Sweden, demanding further investigation."
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Several people shot at UtÃya according to Dagbladet.no
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But an attack like this is big deal in Norway, I live nearby, and the blast has blasted the window in almost 1 km radius, check these images. This is the main government building in Norway: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7722919
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14254095
if they didn't hit a real civilian target but a government target, or even a military base?
I see. So, if it were a government or military target it would be a legitimate and justifiable attack?
I'm looking through the news here and I don't see where Norway is at war with anyone and with regards to Libya, they're helping civilians via NATO get rid of an oppressive dictator that has been supported waay too long by the West because of our addiction to cheap oil.
Because it is much more reliable to get up-to-date news sources of the event from Norwegian nerds keeping up with international nerd zeitgeist than it is from America's idiot news media.
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if anywhere.
Then again, terrorism does affect nerds. I know many love to ignore it, but it is crap like this which ends up getting the laws passed that we do discuss and do not like.
So, I can see a connection. If we don't closely examine one of the source causes how are we ever to stop the erosion of our rights? What is it going to take to bring these people in a modern society where they coexist with others on equal terms, or at least on terms which don't make people look over their shoulder every time they pass or have fear of cars parked where the should not be?
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It is reported that this was a coordinated attack, there is reports of a person shooting in a political camp for youth in Utøya.
I work stright across the street just from the prime ministers office and was on my way there when the bomb went off and came there not many minutes later. Because of vacation, I think most of the buildings were empty. Almost every shop in down town Oslo has or is shutting down. The public transportation is working more or less as normal, but there are a lot of people down there filming with their phones and calling relatives.
A lot of windows are broken and I saw one probably 400+ meters away blown out. People are very calm and just interested in more information.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705
At the time of this positing no one has claimed responsibility for the attack. It could just as easily be another Timothy McVeigh.
It's irresponsible to label the bombing with "terror" or "attack" until the purpose is known
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...bring a car door out in the desert?
So he can roll down the window when it gets too hot.
This should never have happened in a saner world.
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The attack was on a government office, so it's still too early to say whether it was an act of terrorism or war.
Al Qaeda and the organizations allied to it in "the Resistance" are the most obvious suspects, being that they are at war with everyone else in the world and they have the talent and desire to do it.
The attack could be in response to the recent filing of charges against Mullah Krekar, leader of Ansar al-Islam which was one of the first groups to rename itself to "al-Qaeda in Iraq" after the US invaded.
The motivation could also be the Jyllands-Posten cartoons that were published in a Denmark newspaper. The Muslim Brotherhood and Hizbut Tahrir encouraged attacks on Norwegian embassies after the Norwegian tabloid Dagbladet republished the cartoons.
Norway has been active in the bombing of Libya. The attack may have come in retaliation from the Libyan government, which has pledged to strike back at its attackers any way it could, or it may have come from unaffiliated right-wing Muslims who see the attack on Libya as kaffir invading the ummah.
It could be someone else. Remember that the Oklahoma City bombing was a couple of white ultra-Christians. Everyone thought it was Hezbollah at first. The attack could have come from Jews who are pissed off about European spy agencies funding the the NIF, B'tselem, Peace Now, Human Rights Watch, and all the lies they tell about Israel. It could have been a nut from an opposing political party or a farmer with a grievance about a change in subsidies and the knowledge to make a fertilizer bomb. The only thing we truly know is that we don't know yet, so wait a day or two for the investigators to do their jobs.
Here's Reuters's speculation.
Captcha: compute. If anyone was complaining that this was not news for nerds, it is now.
The terrorist story is a cover-up.
What really happened, is a young Jutnar (a species of large mountain troll) wandered into Oslo through the sewer system. It was eventually destroyed near the capital building when courageous members of the TSS removed a manhole cover above the troll. Sadly, the dying troll exploded in a massive burst destroying several city blocks.
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It looks like the "oil and gas" ministry was bombed. The Prime Minister was apparently targeted too. This could be anyone from Al Qaeda to some Earth First type of group. All the speculation is useless until someone actually comes up with some evidence and some suspects, or until there's a credible claim of credit for the attacks.
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Terror Attack On Norwegian Government
No-one has said they were behind the attack
Obviously, I didn't RTFA, but I just love scare tactics. This could be anything. Just because it was a bomb "near" a government building doesn't mean it was "Terror," although "terror" these days DOES have an extremely broad definition...
No doubt they're protesting their brutal living conditions and depressed economy.
No, wait....
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Perhaps I am alone in this thinking, but it seems to me that the west is engaged in an ideological war with Islam. Which, to my mind is only reasonable given the clear incompatibility between Muslim and Western values.
The trouble is, the opposition's idea of an ideological war is distinctly physical. Though, I do not imagine too many ideological wars have been one without the winner resorting to violence.
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Except for some minor inconvenience the rare occasions I can afford to fly somewhere, destroying our economy, and having to tolerate listening to whiny bed-wetters on Fox, terrorism has had little impact on my life.
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Lets try to be accurate here, its not like we want slashdot to become like every other useless media news outlet on the planet.
It is premature to call this a terror attack. No one knows what this is yet.
Stop trying to grab attention by posting unsubstantiated sensationalist headlines.
I think not. According to NRK, the man shooting at Utøya, was a tall Norwegian looking blonde. http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F1.7723132
But also issue a warning saying any support of an extraterritorial terrorist attack originating from within these areas, whether it be financial, moral, or man-power will guarantee the immediate destruction of a randomly selected city or geographical location without the slightest regard for damage or casualties
This killing of random civilians ON PURPOSE is far more evil to my mind than the situation we have now, where we are primarily fighting real enemy fighters, and trying to help the population of various areas com into a modern era.
I can tell you what would happen right now if your proposal were implemented - there would be a terrorist attack every week, announcing the country of origin. Then the city would be bombed, and the cameras would move in to document the suffering of all the women and children who had been placed in the city the week before by the Taliban just so they could die for the camera. It is not a good idea to do anything which so easily gives them a media tool they can (rightfully) hit you over the head with.
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Who got scared? Who was terrorized?
Not every explosion is "terror". Terrorism (except as defined by the US Govt.) requires causing terror.
This was an explosion. I'm glad it wasn't worse... ...but it wasn't terror.
It's time to quit calling everything "terror".
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People are dead and all most of you can do is whinge because the headline might be slightly inaccurate, but in all likelihood isn't?
Story would have led with something about the smell if it were, you'd think.
Buy him a ticket to anywhere he wants, put him on the plane, and be done with him. If he refuses, lock him up until he does choose -- permanently if necessary.
These terrorists are using our regard for human rights in order to destroy us. It cannot be allowed, or they will succeed.
Everyone should just start phoning the police, FBI, DHS et al and letting them know where you and who you are with every time you change locations. In addition you should forward them copies of all the emails that you send and receive.
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I hear that all terrorist attacks are Americas fault, and that we deserve it because of our foreign policy.
So is this attack in Oslo America's fault? Or is this Norway's fault because of the Norwegian Government's belligerent foreign policy?
Is George Bush to blame? Please help. How can we understand world events without one of these explanations?
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Where are the headline reports in Slashdot for the bombs in non-western countries? No where!! typical western bias and I live in the west! I've heard the US say they have smart targeted weapons, what about collateral damage, something being brought up in this story.
Non-western countries have real people with feelings and they should be represented here as well in stories like this.
I said make sure he is not a danger in your own state.
If HE can't find a state HE is willing to go to, and that will accept him, then he must be detained so as not to be a danger to the local country until such time as HE finds a country HE is comfortable going to. See, no rights violated. It's his choice to stay.
He cannot be allowed to simply roam free, arrange crimes and plot the destruction of the free society he's in just because no other country that he wants to go to will take him.
When the Muslim terrorists strike in a Western country, the ranting and raving is about how the "religion of peace" (always used in the sarcastic sense) must be crushed mercilessly and its adherents sent to Guantanamo bay, and countries harboring them must be bombed into oblivion. When the Muslim terrorists (AFGHANISTAN TRAINED, AL-QAEDA AFFILIATED, MIND YOU) strike China, in Xinjiang, the ranting and raving is about the supoposed injustices of the Chinese government and how the terrorists deserve to have their goals fulfilled, never mind that the goal is to establish a Taliban-style Islamic emirate in central Asia. You claim to be on a war on terror, but it's only a war on terror that goes against Western interests. The Cold War is still on, and the enemy of your enemy is still your friend. Total Western hypocrisy here.
Yeah, there's something fishy here.
Gosh, you sure say it yourself "There are millions of Muslims living happy, fulfilling, lives in the US, surrounded by friends and family of many religions."
My god, it is rare to get someone so insightful of the true evil that is Islam with just a single sentence but I doubt your feeble apologist mind can comprehend it.
So let me point out what is bloody obvious to anyone who does not choose to be blind:
You cannot say the same about any muslim country concerning anyother religion. Muslims can live free in the west because it is run by western people. Western or other non-muslims or even just the wrong type of muslim or even just female muslims are not so free in Muslim run countries.
The only thing you need to know about any society is this, immigration vs emigration. How many millions of Americans are emigrating to say Iran or even Turkey?
And the west is engaged in a war with Islam? Odd then that so many of the west enemies are able to live among them and more queing at the border every day. And is India the west as well? Russia? By your logic the entire world is the west.
Don't forget that the 9/11 attackers lived seemingly normal lives in the US as well. The black guy who attempted to use a liqued bomb, he studied in England. Living in a country seems hardly to stop people from hating it.
You apologists really need to start coming up with a better story then "Islam is peace", people get skeptical when the street is covered in blood. No doubt if this turns out to be home grown loonies every apologists like you will show it as proof of the peaceful nature of Islam forgetting the attacks in Denmark, Londong, Madrid, New York, Mumbai, Amsterdam and countless other places.
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While all this is unfolding in real-time in Norway, NBC Today is discussing Lindsay Lohan's latest court case complete with an in-studio 'expert' and live cross over to reporter At-The-Scene (tm) in Los Angeles. This was followed by a multi-panel on relationship commitment issues of the Human male.
I have stopped laughing at the narrow Amercian world view, now I just find them sad and pathetic...
Uhhh... maybe I don't know the context, but this seems wrong. The shooting moreso, but the isolated island youth camp for a political party...
Anyone know anything about these?
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Good for you. Apple has little direct impact on my life, so should I complain about all the iphone/mac/ipad/apple v. Google stories we see here? Of course not, and neither should you complain about something that doesn't immediately effect someone who never leaves suburban America. I suppose you think talking about 9/11 is pointless since you and your mom weren't there. /. isn't just for you. Don't like something? Move along to the next story, or submit a better one why don't you? You CAN contribute, you know.
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These terrorists get more and more incompetent. Just running over people with a car would be far more effective, but instead they need a "large bomb" to do much, much less damage. I think these people are basically a lot less threatening as your run-of-the-mill drunk driver.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
this drought is bigger than the one in the 80s.
its causing mass migration which could lead to social upheaval and support for terrorists.
Could be a pain-sharing project from an environmental group, like Friends of Whales. Norway will kill > 1000 this year. This group already trashed Iceland's economy and Japen's reactors in protest. Do the math. How would YOU like to be harpooned?
Your opinion of Islam is the fucking mirror image of the Islamists you pretend to condemn. The reason why Muslims can live peacefully in the West is that people like you aren't in charge.
an extreme-right person http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080610 captured.
The man arrested for the shootings and also suspected to be behind the bombings is ethnic Norwegian.
He is a right-wing extremist.
Now end your rantings about islam.
P.S. If you want to rant about something: His facebook page says he's christian. And likes "reading and writing".
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80+ confirmed dead at Labour Youth Camp. Number expected to rise.
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The terrorist is from Norway, and apparently acted alone. He didn't like his government, so he tried to destroy its buildings and murdered 80+ youth at a summer camp where the Prime Minister was due to speak. The camp is situated on an island, so many victims died trying to swim for their lives.
This is one of the most horrifying things I've ever heard of. I just can't wrap my head around it.
How does opposing an idea translate to the murder of innocent youth? What goal does that accomplish?
I have nothing but sympathy for all the victims and their families. This is all just so senseless...
Conservative, right-wing, going to extreme extents. Thoughts documented of the person (in Norwegian): http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/
Latest count is NINETY-ONE dead. The bomb only got 7; at least 84 were shot dead at the youth camp.
And it was a Norwegian right winger who did it. He dressed himself as a cop. He's in custody now.
Norwegians, unlike Americans, are a civilized nation. He will not be put to death. Indeed, he may not even spend his whole life in prison.
Well... if the government has any common sense at all, they'll install Linux instead.... That should eliminate a LOT of broken Windows versions in the future.
And on a serious note... I only heard about like 5 minutes before I went ot work last night, people in the store kept me updated on the news during working hours... I don't think anyone had any doubt that I was kindof distressed at work, they all know I only moved from Norway 6 years ago...
First thing I did when I got home this morning was calling me mom to hear if she knew anyone living or working in the nearby areas of the explosion and/or Utøya
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You're a fucking idiot.
It is not society's job to "fix" (rehabilitate), at great expense to tax-payers, a person like this. For what purpose? Is he going to invent some miracle drug if he's rehabilitated? Just give him a lethal injection and be done with him.
State as of now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks
I am ashamed that this lunnatic supports Israel. We have nothing to do with his idiology. My heart goes out for the families' loss and for the the tragedy the Norwegian people have to endure. We all condemn his vecious act and think he shoul be sitting in jail forever!!
May god bless the Norwegian people and strengthen the families' heart.
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