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Jupiter-Sized Alien Planet Is Darkest Ever (Barely) Seen

thebchuckster writes "The darkest alien world ever spotted by astronomers has been discovered in the outskirts of our galaxy. 'It's darker than the blackest lump of coal, than dark acrylic paint you might paint with. It's bizarre how this huge planet became so absorbent of all the light that hits it,' David Kipping, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics."

207 comments

  1. don't look by tqft · · Score: 0, Troll

    it's goatse

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    1. Re:don't look by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's Giedi Prime, homeworld of the House of Harkonnen. So yeah, basically it's goatse

  2. Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by Warwick+Allison · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's happened to /. titling?

    1. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "My God, it's full of stars!"

    2. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean "Dark matter identified in our galaxy!"?

    3. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      Do you reckon this planet is covered by monoliths? Maybe its going to explode.

    4. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by jhoegl · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they finally found "the ass end of space" everyone keeps talking about.

    5. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Prone to methane eruptions no doubt.

    6. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by plover · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they finally found "the ass end of space" everyone keeps talking about.

      It's not that kind of "chocolate star".

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    7. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

      Don't say that, you'll bring out the pedantic posters pointing out that wasn't said in 2001 (but is in book and 2010) even though quote wasn't attributed. Oh wait, I guess that's me being pedantic ... damn u /.

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    8. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      "My god, it's full of arse...."

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    9. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, sir, made me laugh.

    10. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by BetaDays · · Score: 1

      I bet any of the spaceships they build will be black. Zaphod Beeblebrox: It's the weird colour scheme that freaks me. Every time you try to operate one of these weird black controls, which are labeled in black on a black background, a small black light lights up black to let you know you've done it. Hey, what is this, some kind of galactic hyper-hearse?

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    11. Re:Aliens Develop Perfect Solar Power by bughunter · · Score: 1

      Bravo, sir.

      No mod points today, but when I have a +1: Brilliantly Witty to spend, I'll send it your way.

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  3. How about #000000 by abednegoyulo · · Score: 1

    Is it darker than #000000?

    1. Re:How about #000000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's #-1-1-1-1-1-1.

      It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.

    2. Re:How about #000000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The darkness goes to 11.

    3. Re:How about #000000 by hcpxvi · · Score: 2

      Is it darker than #000000?
      Nope, they say it reflects "less than 1% of the light falling onto it". So it could be as light as #020202 (but not #030303).

    4. Re:How about #000000 by unique_parrot · · Score: 1

      Link to a pic please ;)

    5. Re:How about #000000 by itsdapead · · Score: 2

      Here you go. This is the original negative image of course - they'll produce a reversed, colorized print to keep journalists happy but here on /. we understand that sort of thing.

      (Sorry guys, you're just going to have to imagine a big chunk of whitespace here because the Slashdot lameness filter has no fecking sense of humor)

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    6. Re:How about #000000 by itsdapead · · Score: 2

      Is it darker than #000000?

      Yep, its #FFFFFFFF!

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    7. Re:How about #000000 by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Getting it to look right on today's glossy and emissive displays is going to be real trouble, no matter what color we choose...

    8. Re:How about #000000 by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Is it blacker than a pot *and* a kettle?

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    9. Re:How about #000000 by metacell · · Score: 2

      Technically speaking, the question is meaningless, since...

      1) The #xxxxxx system describes what colour an object displays under specific conditions (for example, lighting), not an object's innate light reflection ability (albedo).
      2) The #xxxxxx system doesn't describe colour on an absolute scale; it only orders colours in an arbitrary space with an arbitrary metric. For example, there's no guarantee that #000002 is twice as bright as #000001, and there's no guarantee that #000000 is absolute black. Even when a monitor is turned off, the screen is slightly brighter than absolute black, and when it's turned on with all pixels set to #000000, it's a little brighter still. That's why for example printers and researchers need to use better systems for measuring colours.

    10. Re:How about #000000 by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 3

      Nope, they say it reflects "less than 1% of the light falling onto it". So it could be as light as #020202 (but not #030303).

      RGB hex values are gamma compressed—they represent perceived brightness and not actual light. #020202 actually represents about 0.06% the light of #FFF.

      The correct value representing "less than 1%" (assuming #FFF is falling on it) is #191919.

    11. Re:How about #000000 by abednegoyulo · · Score: 1

      Just when you think it can't get any darker...

      it does.....

    12. Re:How about #000000 by funfail · · Score: 1

      That would be #FFFFFF

    13. Re:How about #000000 by Shark · · Score: 1

      Somehow, that statement made me think of Nathan Explosion going something along the lines of: "The blackest black..."

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    14. Re:How about #000000 by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      Now that's a classic Slashdot post!

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    15. Re:How about #000000 by niktemadur · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Obscure and compelling, it's a thing of beauty!
      It's got all the fatty, sugary, geeky goodness of the Slashdot Food Network.

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  4. That thing from the Fifth Element? by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 2

    Is it that big evil thing from the Fifth Element? Do we need four stones to make it fire a a giant Laser beam at it? Is it going to make evil people leak black tar?

    1. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Coisiche · · Score: 1

      More importantly, does that mean Leeloo's coming to Earth?

    2. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Yaotzin · · Score: 1

      Does that mean we can finally get multipasses and wear strange neon coloured rubber clothing?

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    3. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Platinumrat · · Score: 1

      M - u - l - t - i - p - a - s - s

    4. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll find she's already here and has been for a while...

    5. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Ghetti Prime. Now, where's Arakkis?

    6. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      No - just the duct tape suit barely covering anything.

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    7. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geidi Prime. Arrakis. I've remotely deactivated your geek account.

    8. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh well thats us done for then. We've got no hope that she'll help us with our current and past activities in the middle-east etc.

      Unless... We kidnap Bruce Willis and lock them in a room together!!

    9. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by cvtan · · Score: 1

      +5 points for Fifth Element reference.

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    10. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Rennt · · Score: 1

      Giedi Prime, maybe?

    11. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Giedi Prime. Geidi Prime sounds like a company that uses a lizard to sell insurance.

      Please report to a sci-fi con for reeducation.
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    12. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Giedi Prime is an industrial wasteland with a low photosynthetic potential, the planet's bio-resources depleted and its environment fouled with industrial pollution.[4] Rich in mineral resources, the economy of the planet is based on mining, refineries, and industrial manufacture. In Dune, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen and his heirs live in the "family city of Harko."[4]

      Due to its ravaged environment, Giedi Prime has to import almost all of its requirement of organic products.

      Arrakis (pronounced /É(TM)ËrækÉs/;[1] Arabic: ØÙرØÙØâZ, ar-rÄqiá£, "the dancer") â" informally known as Dune and later called Rakis â" is a fictional desert planet featured in the Dune series of novels by Frank Herbert. Herbert's first novel in the series, 1965's Dune, is popularly considered one of the greatest science fiction novels of all time,[2] and it is sometimes cited as the best-selling science fiction novel in history.[2][3] On April 5, 2010, a real-world plain of Saturn's moon Titan was named Arrakis Planitia after Herbert's fictional planet.[4]

      In Dune, the planet is the home of the Fremen (Zensunni wanderers),[5] and subsequently is the Imperial Capital of the Atreides Empire.[6] Arrakis is the third planet orbiting the star Canopus,[7] and it in turn is orbited by two moons, one of which has the image of the desert kangaroo mouse, Muad'Dib, on it; the other moon possesses the image of a human hand.[5]

      Canopus (pronounced /kÉ(TM)ËnoÊSpÉ(TM)s/, α Car, α Carinae, Alpha Carinae) is the brightest star in the southern constellation of Carina and Argo Navis, and the second brightest star in the night-time sky, after Sirius. Canopus's visual magnitude is â'0.72, and it has an absolute magnitude of â'5.53.

      Canopus is a supergiant of spectral type F. Canopus is essentially white when seen with the naked eye (although F-type stars are sometimes listed as "yellowish-white"). It is located in the far southern sky, at a declination of â'52Â 42' (2000) and a right ascension of 06h24.0m.[1]

    13. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 1

      Aziz! Light!

    14. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Does that mean we can finally get multipasses and wear strange neon coloured rubber clothing?

      Nobody is actually stopping you from wearing strange neon-colored rubber clothing, you know.

      In fact, I'm sure a google search would turn up several purveyors of such things.

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    15. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Rennt · · Score: 1

      Weird... what is the point of the bold-emphasis? I mean, you cocked up the spelling of Arrakis too ;)

    16. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

      >> Geidi Prime sounds like a company that uses a lizard to sell insurance.

      No, no .. Insurance is Geidi International. Geidi Prime sells mortgages of course.

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    17. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by raphael75 · · Score: 0

      "Co'bin! Co'bin Dallas! Cooobbbbiiiiiiinnn!"

    18. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And most important of all: Do I get to bang that hot love-chick that only wears a few straps of cloth over the key areas?
      Cause I'd love to make a biiiiiiiig bada...boom with her, if you know what I mean. ;)

    19. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      The original question I asked, "Where is Arrakis"; the bold answers that. And the word "Arrakis" is neither in my spell checker nor my dictionary, and I haven't read Dune in years, and I don't have the books with me now. It's not like Arrakis us real, even though its star is (and according to Wikipedia I doubt if it were there that it would be the least bit habitable).

    20. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aziz! Light!

    21. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A new planet? BLACKER THAN EARTH? Impossible. Throw Wallace Shawn at it. And Farmboy. Push comes ta shove whip out the Forrest Gump weapon.

    22. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by hvm2hvm · · Score: 1

      Well the US did manage to get a black president elected so it's a start. We only need a priest that tries to convince him that there is a real danger.

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    23. Re:That thing from the Fifth Element? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) You mean Giedi Prime.

      2) Arrakis is in the Canopus system.

  5. public enemy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    fear of a black planet!

    1. Re:public enemy by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Now we just have to name that phobia.

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    2. Re:public enemy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We've had one for some time. It's called "Obamaphobia". Rush Limbaugh has a particularly virulent case.

  6. In other news.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The planet is apparently entirely populated by gloomy goth people, who paradoxically seem happier than ever.

  7. Disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here I am, sitting here with mod points, and I'm very disappointed at the poor quality of the comment so far...

    1. Re:Disappointed... by bobs666 · · Score: 1

      I know the feeling.

  8. possibility for error? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering how this planet is 750 light years away, and how hard it is to detect these planets, isn't it possible that this measurement is just an error of sorts, before changing planet formation theories?

    1. Re:possibility for error? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      before changing planet formation theories?

      Don't think anything that grand has been mentioned anywhere in TFA. The question is more along the lines of what mixture of vaporised rocks would make an atmosphere with those oddball properties.

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    2. Re:possibility for error? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      No, it's just someone's soot dump from when they cleaned their fireplace.

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    3. Re:possibility for error? by JamesP · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I mean, it was probably made in the vaporized rocks of Mount Doom or something like it

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    4. Re:possibility for error? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

      It's just another planet that couldn't pay it's bills so the Sun cut it off. Once again evil corporations have gone too far.

  9. All the evidence suggests is by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    That's no moon.

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    1. Re:All the evidence suggests is by gmueckl · · Score: 2

      That's a space station! Painted all black!

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    2. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Liinux · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's no moon.

      I find your lack of originality disturbing.

    3. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's no moon.

      I find your lack of originality disturbing.

      Mii too!

    4. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 4, Funny

      I see a Death star

      And I want it painted black....

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    5. Re:All the evidence suggests is by itsdapead · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see a Death star

      And I want it painted black....

      Palpatine: absolutely not!
      Anakin: That's SO not fair!!! You're NOT my father!!!

      (Or do rebellious teenage super villains demand to paint their bedroom magnolia?)

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    6. Re:All the evidence suggests is by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      That's no moon.

      I find your lack of originality disturbing.

      Who's the greater fool, the fool or the fool who follows?

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    7. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Liinux · · Score: 1

      That's no moon.

      I find your lack of originality disturbing.

      Who's the greater fool, the fool or the fool who follows?

      Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.

    8. Re:All the evidence suggests is by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      That's no moon.

      I find your lack of originality disturbing.

      Who's the greater fool, the fool or the fool who follows?

      Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.

      I don't remember that line in Star Wars.

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    9. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1, whoosh; for missing the classic Rolling Stones reference.

    10. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Captain+Hook · · Score: 1

      Greedo said it to Hans which is why Hans opened fire, in the later edits the line was completely removed to allow Greedo to shoot first.

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    11. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1 for using "classic" and "Rolling Stones" in the same sentence.

      Jurassic, maybe...

    12. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Liinux · · Score: 1

      Greedo said it to Hans which is why Hans opened fire, in the later edits the line was completely removed to allow Greedo to shoot first.

      This is not the explanation you are looking for.

    13. Re:All the evidence suggests is by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Greedo said it to Hans which is why Hans opened fire, in the later edits the line was completely removed to allow Greedo to shoot first.

      This is not the explanation you are looking for.

      A plague on both your droids!

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    14. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those Rebel Fighters I want them to turn back...

    15. Re:All the evidence suggests is by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I don't remember that line in Star Wars.

      It's about a deciparsec in.

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  10. artificial by Darth+Cider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe it's a Dyson sphere.

    1. Re:artificial by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Informative

      But in that case it would encapsulate the star - not circle it.

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    2. Re:artificial by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      But in that case it would encapsulate the star - not circle it.

      Yeah, that's what the engineers told the management, too. But the management didn't believe it. So they built it around the planet instead.

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    3. Re:artificial by GNious · · Score: 2

      Would it be possibly to build a Dyson Sphere around a single star in a binary system?
      Really, I'd like to know :) Am thinking it would be an order of magnitude harder (gravitational shear being 1 possible impediment), but could be? Then covering it is something to absorb sunlight from the other star could make sense ....

    4. Re:artificial by splutty · · Score: 2

      The problem with that being that a Dyson sphere needs to be completely light absorbent on the *inside*, the outside really doesn't matter, although in this case it being light absorbent on the outside would also capture an insignificant amount of light from the primary.

      Always assuming it's a binary system with one star being encapsulated.

      In an SF context, that even makes some modicum of sense, in that you'd still have an actual sun and all...

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    5. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      what - a *really* big vacuum cleaner?

    6. Re:artificial by Gideon+Wells · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm sure there is a major flaw in the following hypothesis, but couldn't there be a "dyson sphere" around a planet for different reasons? Dyson Spheres are built around a star as a hypothetical optimal method of complete solar harvesting.

      What if a species not quite that advanced built such a shell around their own world? One flaw is how to best simulate their sun for grass/animals. Holes in the sphere? A series of lights, or a few on a track, that go around the world as needed? It would work best if the species were nocturnal (either by natural or "artificial" evolution at this point). Considering this is "Jupiter sized" then this thing would have enough room for twenty-two Earths to go from one end to another at the equator. There could be a whole planet and moon system inside.

      That much surface area and they might be able to easily simulate their sun on planet for wildlife and then some. According to Wikipedia Jupiter's surface area: 6.1419×1010 km2. Cut that in half since even if the sphere doesn't rotate half of it will be facing their sun, and you have the maximum usable space for solar cells or whatever they are using instead. How much energy would that produce? Unless this thing is a relic left behind, they might not need a full blown Dyson Sphere yet.

      According to the article it is in that star's habital zone. So it is in the right spot if it were a converted habital world. Dyson Sphere may not be the correct term, but the concept itself completely off from what could be here.

      Then again, it could be the universe's largest naturally formed piece of coal or we discovered the home hub of the all consuming nanite swarm.

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    7. Re:artificial by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1

      One flaw is how to best simulate their sun for grass/animals.

      Let the light in and keep it there. No sun substitute required.

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    8. Re:artificial by Jamu · · Score: 1

      I'd guess that the largest problem would be tidal forces, although with a strong enough, or flexible enough, material, this could be overcome. Otherwise, if the stars were far enough apart, and the Dyson Sphere small enough, it would be possible to minimise the tidal forces from the external star.

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    9. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, you know, if they feel they need more energy from light, they could have a sphere around their planet that is much larger than their planet, thus harvesting more energy than what the direct light would give them.

    10. Re:artificial by m50d · · Score: 1

      What if a species not quite that advanced built such a shell around their own world?

      Sure it's possible, but why the hell would they ever do that? Planets don't give off energy that you want to harvest.

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    11. Re:artificial by justsayin · · Score: 1

      Why you need to know? You got some plans this weekend we are not aware of? Like maybe sneaking off to the alpha quadrant and beginning the construction process? Again? You know we cant get any reliable student help and on this budget that's the only labor option we got. I mean after those cloning vats blew up,...

    12. Re:artificial by itsdapead · · Score: 2

      Would it be possibly to build a Dyson Sphere around a single star in a binary system?

      Anything is possible with enough unobtanium, artificial gravity (unless you spin it up to ludicrous speed to make gravity - see Ringworld) and matter transmutation (if you believe the words of thousand-year-old ship's prostitutes).

      Seriously, come back and ask that question when we know how to build a Dyson sphere around a single sun.

      Anyway, I thought the original "Dyson sphere" concept was actually a cloud of satellites dense enough to capture all of the solar energy, rather than the rigid sci-fi version with all its tricky engineering?

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    13. Re:artificial by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      Dyson spheres do not, by definition "encapsulate" a star... read up on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

    14. Re:artificial by Blue+Stone · · Score: 1

      >A series of lights, or a few on a track, that go around the world as needed?

      That's how the Shell World 'Sursamen' in Ian M Banks' book 'Matter' operates. He called the suns Roll Stars.

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    15. Re:artificial by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Wow... part of the biggest vacuum cleaner in all history. At least God doesn't use old fashioned wheeled vacuum cleaners...

      Black Holes- vacuum cleaners steered using Dyson Spheres.
      Sorry... my jokes suck today.

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    16. Re:artificial by itsdapead · · Score: 2

      Sure it's possible, but why the hell would they ever do that?

      Pre-Copernican theme park for religious literalists? Just paint stars on the inside.

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    17. Re:artificial by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      One flaw is how to best simulate their sun for grass/animals.

      Maybe that is the problem that they were trying to solve: their sun may have evolved to produce more visible light than what they needed, but they still needed the thermal energy. So they paint the sphere black to absorb the heat but not the visible light.

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    18. Re:artificial by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Well, given how close this thing is to it's parent star, perhaps as a defense mechanism?

      Think of an ordinary roughly Earth-sized planet within the habitable zone of a main sequence yellow star much like our own Sun. Now imagine a large gravitational mass (such as a black hole or rogue Gas Giant) passes close enough to perturb the orbit of the planet, causing it to slow down and fall inwards towards it's sun.

      If the inhabitants of such a planet were more advanced than us, but not yet advanced enough to have developed a reliable form of long-range space travel, they would be able to determine that the final orbit of their world would be far too close to their sun for life to survive.

      Given that they would have some time before final orbit was reached, they might construct just such a sphere as a shield against the massive heat of their sun so that their race could survive long enough to develop the previously mentioned space travel capability.

      Actually, that would make a very interesting book.

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    19. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always wondered - where exactly does the matter used to creat the dyson sphere come from? Those things are huge, astronomically. There'd need to be some sort of planet-eater that took stars and used the raw matter for a building block to create something so large.

    20. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It still could encapsulate a smaller star if it is an binary system.

    21. Re:artificial by Gideon+Wells · · Score: 1

      I admitted it wouldn't be a perfectly logical thing. The point I was trying to give is they wouldn't be utilizing energy from their world, but this would be a glorified solar panel. It would be a method of collector solar energy hitting their general solar system real estate.

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    22. Re:artificial by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there is a major flaw in the following hypothesis, but couldn't there be a "dyson sphere" around a planet for different reasons?

      That's ridiculous! Anyone who knows anything knows that it is a massive computing devices connected to itself across quantum realities and powering itself from the entropy that exists at the end of the universe which it uses to generate random numbers for a interstellar casino.

      Don't you know ANYTHING!!!

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    23. Re:artificial by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      What if a species not quite that advanced built such a shell around their own world?

      Sure it's possible, but why the hell would they ever do that? Planets don't give off energy that you want to harvest.

      Jupiter gives off more energy than it receives. I think that Neptune might, too. Furthermore, the sphere would still absorb all the energy below the visible spectrum (IR, i.e. heat).

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    24. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could always be a Dyson sphere encapsulating a brown dwarf or other stellar object that was there previously. The majority of stars are in binary pairs.

    25. Re:artificial by stms · · Score: 2

      There is a flaw in the Dyson Sphere concept too it's that to create a (solar) Dyson Sphere it would require more matter than in a given solar system. Which means (amusing you can't create matter from energy extremely efficiently) would need to transport matter from another solar system to complete it likely needing to destroy at least one other star in the process. So unless a Society has settled and depleted every solar system in the galaxy it's more efficient to move part of your society to another solar system (think Firefly). Having said all that a planet sized Dyson spear is a much more likely concept.

    26. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Anyway, I thought the original "Dyson sphere" concept was actually a cloud of satellites dense enough to capture all of the solar energy, rather than the rigid sci-fi version with all its tricky engineering?

      You are correct, although I don't think there is any real stipulation that said densely packed cloud of satellites can't be attached to one another and therefore become a solid mass. I think the main difference between the actual concept and the one seen often in science fiction (such as that Star Trek episode with Scotty it it) is that the people don't live on the inner surface of the sphere, it just collects the energy output of the star. It's a separate structure.

      I mean, really, once you've got the tech to build something like that, it's not like you are stuck living inside of the thing. You can just cover it in 120v outlets and run extension cords to your super duper space port.

    27. Re:artificial by m50d · · Score: 1

      Jupiter gives off more energy than it receives. I think that Neptune might, too.

      Technically I suspect Earth does - it contains trace radioactive elements that decay and give off heat. But we're talking a small enough amount that it would almost certainly be less engineering effort to build a fusion reactor of equivalent power. It's possible there are other reasons to want to build such a thing, but as an energy supply the Dyson sphere makes sense (if you assume a desire for such stupendous amounts of energy) in a way that this really doesn't.

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    28. Re:artificial by m50d · · Score: 1

      OK, but even that makes little sense - why not a flatter collector at the L1 (or L4/5 if you can handle the transmission distances). The concept that this thing is artificial is fascinating, but I don't think solar energy collection provides a good enough reason for it.

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    29. Re:artificial by Tekfactory · · Score: 1

      Maybe the occupants of the planet realize the planet's spin was slowing down and they were becoming tidally locked with their sun like our moon is with us.

      Instead of baking one side of the planet and freezing the other they built a Dyson Sphere and created their own internal day/night cycle.

    30. Re:artificial by suso · · Score: 1

      Haha, that's actually really funny. And sadly true.

    31. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky."

    32. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop thinking. This is pure Level-III Space Nuttery. Just enjoy the fine visions, romantic notions and fantasies.

    33. Re:artificial by reasterling · · Score: 1

      I would think that the main problem is building a big enough heat sink on the out side of the sphere that you would not simply cook everything inside it, or see the sphere itself melt from the constant heat build up.

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    34. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couldn't it be built around a small star that's orbiting? The thing is +2200 degrees after all.

      Unfortunately the article says it's gas-based. Not saying you can't, but I don't know how to make a Dyson Sphere out of gas!

    35. Re:artificial by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      It didn't work, but look how much money management saved!

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    36. Re:artificial by Toonol · · Score: 2

      You are correct, although I don't think there is any real stipulation that said densely packed cloud of satellites can't be attached to one another and therefore become a solid mass.

      Orbital requirements. You'll need some satellites orbiting over the poles. If the satellites are attached to each other, the only satellites that are truly 'orbiting' are around the equator. The rest are moving too slow, and would fall into the sun without enough structural support to hold them aloft. Hence, unobtanium.

      This planet is most likely a completely natural, if unusual, phenomenon. Still, though, this at least slightly perks the interest in extraterrestrials. Maybe this is a complete conversion to trap all solar power falling on a planet?

    37. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it was a BINARY system, you dumb asses.

    38. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why can't finding cool planets to study like this be interesting enough without running to Dyson spheres and little green men?

      Instead of taking the surface area from Wikipedia to calculate the theoretical solar panel yield, why not look at the Mass and Volume, find out the density (Spoiler: It's close to Jupiter's), and realize that there's an awful lot of "stuff" inside that "hollow sphere".

    39. Re:artificial by Toonol · · Score: 1

      So unless a Society has settled and depleted every solar system in the galaxy it's more efficient to move part of your society to another solar system (think Firefly).

      I'm not sure about that. A Dyson sphere has the inhabitable space of 500 millions earths. Are you sure that there are that many inhabitable planets in our galaxy?

      I imagine that a Dyson Sphere would be constructed by mining one star of a close binary star system. I'll leave the details to the engineers.

    40. Re:artificial by m50d · · Score: 1

      It might be more efficient, but people aren't exactly going to line up to move out to the boonies. If you've got the engineering capacity, a Dyson Sphere lets you support a much denser population than spreading across multiple systems, and you can work your way up by starting with an orbital. Also, surely with sufficient engineering you can make your sphere arbitrarily thin (the only requirement I can see is capturing solar output and withstanding solar wind pressure, and you could put holes in if the latter was a real problem), and thus there's no lower limit on the amount of matter needed.

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    41. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you have to realize that there are losses EVERY TIME that you convert one form of energy into another. Going form light->electricity->light will probably loose ~90% of the lights enery that you harvested.

      of course this is all pie in the sky thinking anyways, the materials required to build such a monstrosity would consume entire planets. Might as well dream of a magical solar panel that harvests 100% of the light with no losses to heat, and a magical electrical system that has perfect conduction with no losses to heat, and magical bulbs too!

      when i heard how dark the planet was i immediately thought of ender on eros. maybe it's the buggers invading!

    42. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arnold begs to differ.

    43. Re:artificial by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      If you can build a Dyson sphere to live on, you sure as hell can terraform existing rocky planets or build your own.

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    44. Re:artificial by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1
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    45. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have to go back to the drawing board. By my calculations, I thought the nanite ooze would be grey. On to "Model U" nanites.

    46. Re:artificial by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      The "boonies"? Right now, today, if you've got an internet connection, how much does it matter where you live?

      Extrapolate to a Dyson sphere capable civilisation.

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    47. Re:artificial by m50d · · Score: 1

      It's entirely plausible that even a Dyson sphere capable civilization won't be able to communicate faster than the speed of light, at which point being on even the nearest star is a whole lot of isolation.

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    48. Re:artificial by MattBD · · Score: 1

      Don't see any reason why not, as long as the stars aren't too close together. I would, however, suggest that a solid shell is unlikely and an actual Dyson sphere is more likely to consist of huge numbers of free-flying space habitats, or satellites (possibly even free-flying solar-powered computers, known as a Matrioshka brain). It would definitely make sense to put it in a binary system since you'd have two sources of light. However, I'm guessing in this case the encapsulated star would have to be extremely small - possibly a white dwarf, neutron star or black hole. Which suggests another possibility - perhaps it's some kind of shield, preventing a catastrophic event such as a gamma ray burst from harming life in the galaxy.

    49. Re:artificial by Noren · · Score: 1

      There's a simpler and more paranoid explanation available. This is an alien home planet, and it's actually emitting huge amounts of various types of light. Our astronomical instruments, however, have been hacked to not show any of that- we're not supposed to know about alien civilizations, as it would stunt our development. Somealien didn't think this through and simply removed all the light from our data on that planet, resulting in an anomalously dark appearance. It's a software bug. Perhaps it'll be fixed by the next time we look at that planet, and it'll appear as a boring planet of standard appearance.

    50. Re:artificial by khallow · · Score: 1

      There is a flaw in the Dyson Sphere concept too it's that to create a (solar) Dyson Sphere it would require more matter than in a given solar system.

      Why would you need much matter? A cloud of solar panels, orbiting the Sun well within the orbit of Mercury (which would be providing the mass source for the satellites) would do the job.

      At a sphere one million km in radius centered on the Sun (which as I understand is cool enough that some materials can stay solid indefinitely), Mercury would provide roughly 26 metric tons of mass per square meter of the sphere. Needless to say, you don't need that much mass per square meter and you have plenty of room even if you have to expand the sphere by a factor of ten.

      So bottom line is that you not only don't need the mass of a star system in order to build a Dyson Sphere, you don't even need the mass of a very small planet to do so!

    51. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe a Global Cassus?

    52. Re:artificial by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Maybe the planet is tidally locked, and this is a system for distributing light across the day and night sides in a more uniform/controlled fashion?

    53. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Project management at it's finest. Take a simple plan and let the "stakeholders" give input....

    54. Re:artificial by tragedy · · Score: 1

      For that matter, as long as we're doing solar system scale engineering, split the difference between making Dyson spheres and planets and make lots of orbitals, which are mini Dyson rings. They can achieve the living area of a planet and simulate the gravity of one with a tiny fraction of the material. As for the sun, forget about collecting its energy, just kill it. Once we've stopped the wasteful runaway fusion going on inside the sun, we can mine it for hydrogen to power our fusion reactors and only produce power on demand in the quantities we need. The individual orbitals can have a hub sunlet that shines at precise angles so no energy is wastefully cast out into space.

      There are a lot of advantages to this approach. For one thing, it doesn't put all of our eggs in one basket with a massive feat of engineering like a Dyson sphere (or ring). Secondly, killing the sun saves a huge amount of otherwise wasted energy. Not wasting solar energy is pretty much the whole point behind a Dyson sphere in the first place, right? As for actual power output. The power output of solar fusion from our sun is actually pretty dismal. Even at the core of our sun, its power output by volume is about that of a compost heap. And we're talking about very dense volume here. In order to power say Manhattan you would need a reactor bigger than the entire island and several times as massive if you had typical solar fusion output. So, if we could actually create fusion reactors that use regular hydrogen and have useful power output, they would need to be tremendously more active than the sun (so we'd be powering Manhattan with a reactor the size of a house instead). So, if we're imagining a universe where we have this kind of technology, a bunch of individual fusion reactors, spread out all over the solar system in various habitats, collectively massing somewhere near the mass of the Earth could output as much energy as the entire sun without the need to surround the sun with anything. Any individual planets (that we haven't demolished for material to build habitats) that we want to preserve in their natural state, we could just give orbiting fusion powered directional sunlets to simulate the sun.

      Obviously we're going to need a few months to get all of this set up. We might have to start small with building cloud cities on Saturn first... Maybe we should attempt a basic space station with simulated gravity from rotation and a moon or mars colony first, just to cut our teeth. Then we can get started completely reshaping the solar system.

    55. Re:artificial by guruevi · · Score: 1

      What they could've done (and any advanced enough civilization is capable of this) is let their lives be simulated. First they started hooking up to the machines for fun and vacation, then they started getting addicted, then everybody got on it and this required more and more energy to simulate the world and to take the input of the connected individuals. Eventually the energy requirements required first a partial, then the war came for the resources that were left in the sunlight. Then they built a full Dyson sphere to either run the war or end the war. The civilization is now dead but the computers are still running, still simulating the world.

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    56. Re:artificial by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      You're proving my point... that's not a Dyson sphere, It's a Dyson Shell and the probability of a Dyson SPHERE existing is relatively high... a Shell on the other hand would require new physics.

    57. Re:artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been postulated that a sphere around a planet of the right sort of configuration could mitigate certain types of radiation, such as protection from a gamma-ray burst or abnormal solar activity, but the amount of mass required to offer reasonable shielding from gamma radiation would be formidable and a local star event hardly seems worth going through such trouble when you could just skip town or find a cave.

  11. Circumventing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFA: "The planet in question, TrES-2b, was detected by NASA's Kepler spacecraft circumventing the yellow sun-like star GSC 03549-02811"

    Surely they mean "orbiting"? "Circling" even? But "circumventing"?

    1. Re:Circumventing? by hcpxvi · · Score: 2

      Surely they mean "orbiting"? "Circling" even? But "circumventing"?
      I was about to make the same point, but the OED gives several meaning for "circumvent", one of which is "To go round, make the circuit of." Still, it is not the way that most people use the word; I think we can conclude that TFA is not written by one of the web's better science journalists.

    2. Re:Circumventing? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Interesting choice of words - and since the star is some 750 light years away it seems unlikely that it would be orbiting.

      Unless someone has invented the warp drive.

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    3. Re:Circumventing? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Surely they mean "orbiting"? "Circling" even? But "circumventing"?

      I was about to make the same point, but the OED gives several meaning for "circumvent", one of which is "To go round, make the circuit of." Still, it is not the way that most people use the word; I think we can conclude that TFA is not written by one of the web's better science journalists.

      Or maybe not by a native English speaker?

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  12. How dark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night?"

    1. Re:How dark? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is pitch black. Probably the home world of the grues.

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    2. Re:How dark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yah, don't go there, you will be eaten.

  13. Fear of a Black Planet by Tempest451 · · Score: 1

    Public Enemy called it!

  14. This is Spinal Tap Planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like, how much more black could this be?

  15. its scorched black by kubitus · · Score: 1

    if you would be so close to the sun, you would be scorched black too!

  16. Look out for Harkonnens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't be the only one thinking of Giedi Prime!

    1. Re:Look out for Harkonnens by JazzHarper · · Score: 1

      You're not, but you're anon, so you get zero points.

  17. Solar Power by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

    It's inhabited by aliens. They have almost perfected solar power, just like the asteroid in Ender's Game.

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  18. Non-Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which is the darkest non-ailien planet?

    1. Re:Non-Alien by nabil2199 · · Score: 1

      Which is the darkest non-ailien planet?

      that would be Uranus

    2. Re:Non-Alien by Convector · · Score: 1

      That would be Earth, as it is the only non-alien planet. If you mean "Which is the darkest planet in our Solar System", that would be Mercury with an albedo of around 0.1.

  19. Kardashev by Dik+Zak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's also hot in infrared. Isn't this exactly what you would expect to see from a planet with a Kardashev level 1 civilisation?

    1. Re:Kardashev by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1, Troll

      Isn't this exactly what you would expect to see from a planet with a Kardashev level 1 civilisation?

      I'd expect to see needy drama queens on a planet with a Kardashian level 1 civilization.

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  20. Lots of hot goth chicks there? by E.I.A · · Score: 0

    Sisters of Mercy (Black Planet) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Oh4aaLCFM

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  21. acrylic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How would acrylic conjure up 'darkness' more than any other emulsion? (I'm sure it made sense to Kipping, I just can't figure what he based that odd view on.)

    1. Re:acrylic? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      It could just be a quirky, excessively tightly specified, phrasing during the 'dumb it down for the journalists' phase; but their might actually be a more astronomy-related reason:

      If Kipping has had to get his hands dirty with any of the apparatus-side aspects of doing very precise optical telescope work, he may well have encountered substantially blacker-than-ordinary surface coatings being used to scrub unwanted light-scatter in sensitive optical gear. In the spirit of accuracy, he might have been emphasizing that your garden-variety "black paint" doesn't compare; but didn't want to just say "paint" because there are some very specialized black surface finishes that are less reflective still.(I think that the record is presently held by some curious carbon-nanotube arrangement that only reflects 0.045% of what falls on it.)

  22. It aint the darkest planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The darkest planet(s) should be the one(s) could not be detected since no light will return.

    1. Re:It aint the darkest planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you blind?
      We are talking about the darkest planet ever SEEN!!

    2. Re:It aint the darkest planet by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Returning no light is a tall order: If you are an efficient absorber of light, you'll heat up, and emit black-body radiation.(Assuming you don't just happen to occlude your star from the perspective of an earth observer during part of your orbit and get picked up that way, where being darker actually makes detection easier...)

      There are probably some chunks of fairly dark and very cold material floating virtually undetectable in the void, but if you've got a nearby star irradiating you, it's just a matter of a trade-off between reflecting light and emitting it...

  23. Pics by TafBang · · Score: 0

    Or it didn't happen.

  24. Good by marqs · · Score: 1

    Good that someone final turn the spotlight and shed some light on this. Why do you turn of your lights and pull down the blinds if you have nothing to hide?

    1. Re:Good by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

      It's also visible in infrared, that hints at what they are hiding.

      http://news.discovery.com/space/black-exoplanet-kepler-110811.html

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  25. Dead star's core. by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's a red giant remnant (carbon core)?

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    1. Re:Dead star's core. by somepunk · · Score: 1

      We call those things white dwarfs, and they are quite bright. Eventually, they'll become black dwarfs, but the Universe isn't nearly old enough yet.

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    2. Re:Dead star's core. by hubie · · Score: 1

      Sadly, as I write this there are about 160 comments and I think yours is the first on-topic one I saw that wasn't trying to be witty.

  26. I blame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The atmosphere of the super-heated world is thought to reach temperatures of some 2192 degrees (1200 degrees Celsius).

    I blame anthropogenic carbon emissions!

    *ducks*

  27. Hot like on Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the article:
    Like us on Facebook TrES-2b is so hot that scientists said it emits a faint red glow, similar to a burning ember.

  28. One day we set foot on a dark world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where a terrible enemy slept...

  29. Darkest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't the darkest planet ever be that one we can't see cause it's too dark?

    1. Re:darkest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that we've never seen any of the light reflected by a planet outside of our solar system. I thought the only methods of planet detection we currently have were to see the light it blocks from its host star, or to see the pull it has on its host star.

      One (as unkowledgeable as myself) may surmise that while the planet on the near side of its orbit blocks light, you would also see a corresponding increase in apparent magnitude on the far side of the orbit just before and after being eclipsed by its stellar host. I would expect the magnitude to be far lower -- even if a perfect mirror the planet would be physically more distant. One might imagine that this is within the realm of detection for current methods.

    2. Re:darkest? by WildBlueYonder · · Score: 1

      Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that we've never seen any of the light reflected by a planet outside of our solar system. I thought the only methods of planet detection we currently have were to see the light it blocks from its host star, or to see the pull it has on its host star.

      Only a few planets have actually been imaged through reflected light, the first in 2008, but it has been done. The two alternative methods you mention have been going on for longer though, and have found many more planets than the imaging method.

  30. DARKNESS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's DARKNESS, it must be CHARLIE MURPHY!

  31. 2001 by metalmonkey · · Score: 2

    Maybe it's from 2001 "All the monoliths are black, extremely flat, non-reflective rectangular solids."
    I remember Arthur C. Clarke's description of the blackness quite well, I'm thinking it was written slightly better than the summaries description of black.
    Unfortunately I don't have the book with me.

    1. Re:2001 by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      If you remember it quite well, surely you don't need the book?

    2. Re:2001 by metalmonkey · · Score: 1

      Not well enough to quote it unfortunately, just memory that the description was good. Human brain is not a HDD its a bit more fuzzy.

  32. Not discoverd by Kepler by arcctgx · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFA is wrong, the planet was discovered from a ground-based observatory back in 2006: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0609335

    1. Re:Not discoverd by Kepler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, the planet's existence (and size and mass) was discovered by the TrES program from the ground. However, the albedo (fraction of light reflected by the planet), was derived from Kepler data and it was recently "discovered" to be the darkest planet known. TFA failed to note the distinction.

      Poor wording aside, that thing is curiously dark.

  33. Geidi Prime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess we better invest into weirding modules before it's too late :)

  34. Re: How black is it? by de_smudger · · Score: 1

    >> Are we talking like optical black, suitable for coating the insides of instruments like telescopes and microscopes?

    > Blacker! I'm talking black knobs with black legends on a black control panel black. It's so black it's frictionless.

    (shamelessly reposted from another /. discussion a few years back ;)

  35. Feel the surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey ! You can't ! It's totally frictionless

  36. red glow or blacker than coal by theunixbomber · · Score: 0

    The article first states that it's backer than coal, then goes onto say that it has a faint red glow. Which is it?

  37. Stones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, we can all now see that you no nothing about Mick, Keith and the boys.

  38. Z'ha'dum...we dead.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we go to Z'ha'dum...we will die!

  39. Fast Show Reference by miasmic · · Score: 1
    How black is it?

    Black! Black! Black like the clouds of death that follow me into the forest of doom and hide in the wardrobe of darkness!

    Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRJxafiqHvw

  40. How dark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blacker than the blackest black... times infinity!

  41. Planet Lucifer? by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    There was a manga years ago called 2001 Nights. It was a Sci-Fi anthology with a Kubrick/Clark 2001 influence.

    In one of the stories a "10th Planet" is discovered in our solar system given the name Lucifer. It orbits our sun in a retrograde orbit (it goes the opposite direction of the other planets) and takes 666 years to complete an orbit. It's also the largest gas giant surpassing Jupiter. A mission to study the planet is launched and a number of tragic accidents befall the crew.

    It was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this.

  42. Re:planetary dyson sphere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, so when do the Harvesters arrive?

  43. Or.. by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's surface is made of polished platinum.. I jest, but I swear that stuff messes with my eyes; on one hand, it's shiny, but on the other, it's dark, almost black, and seems to just suck up light.

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  44. Alien? by snooz_crash · · Score: 1

    Isn't every planet other than Earth "alien?"

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  45. can't believe nobody said this yet.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but is it darker then uranus?

  46. There was just one remarkable thing about it. by darthlurker · · Score: 1

    "It's so ... black!" said Ford Prefect. "You can hardly make out its shape ... light just seems to fall into it.

  47. none more black. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.

  48. Obvious answer... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Camouflage, possible cloaking device. When you exist in a big black background, and you don't want anyone to find your home world, as the song says, "Paint it Black".

    Of course one has to ask what sort of species takes such drastic action to hide themselves.

    Is this a case of puppeteers, or simply stealthy invaders?

     

  49. It's Yuggoth, you fools! by Pf0tzenpfritz · · Score: 1

    We're doomed!

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  50. pics? by DSS11Q13 · · Score: 1

    or it didn't happen

  51. Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did they name it Wesley Snipes?

  52. Blacker than the blackest black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...times infinity

  53. I see all these movie and book references... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But very few science references.

    Personally, I suspect nanoscopic carbon, like fullerenes.

    Little known fact: candle soot contains carbon nanotubes and fullerenes.
    http://www.worldofmolecules.com/materials/fullerene.htm

    Carbon nanotubes are also "The darkest substance known," and synthetic samples exhibit optical qualities similar to this planet.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7190107.stm

    Now then-- If the planet originally had a high-methane content atmosphere, the solar bombardment may have slowly converted the methane into C60 fullerene and hydrogen gas. Fullerenes are heavy molecules, yes-- but they can be suspended in atmosphere even here on earth in a still room as "dust". The extreme wind velocities of a planet like this one would pretty much ensure a permanent cloud of the stuff, since it would be unable to settle. (Winds that would be further driven by the extreme solar absorption the molecules would provide.)

    Fullerenes are highly conductive, so I would wonder about the electrostatic activity of such an atmosphere.

  54. darkest? by Sperbels · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that we've never seen any of the light reflected by a planet outside of our solar system. I thought the only methods of planet detection we currently have were to see the light it blocks from its host star, or to see the pull it has on its host star.

  55. Planet got back? by Yamioni · · Score: 1

    Oh, my, god. Becky, look at that planet. It is so big.
    Yeah, it looks like one of those yellow-sun's satelite's...
    But, ugh, you know, who understands those yellow suns?
    Ugh, they only illuminate it because it looks like a total black hole, okay?
    I mean its size, it's just so big, ugh, I can't believe it's just so round, it's like, out there, I mean, ugh, gross!
    Look! It's just so... Black!

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    Cool post bro, highfive \o
  56. Pandora's Planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If some day in the future we will have FTL and would be able to observe this planet being locked into a shell, we shouldn't build a ship and send it there. The Guardians would also be right about the StarFlyer.

  57. what a future... by slick7 · · Score: 1

    We can find planets but, we cannot feed ours, find a better source of limitless fuel, operate a world without currency or sustain economies on programs other than war.

    No wonder other planets refuse to respond to our SETI calls.

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    The mind conceives, the body achieves, the spirit manifests.