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Accused Teen Bomber Finds FBI Surveillance Team's Wireless Network

roccomaglio writes "The suspect who is accused of planning to bomb his high school in Tampa updated his Facebook status with the following: 'The weirdest thing happened today...when my homie Nic Peezy was trying to connect to a wireless network the connections list came up and one of them was called: FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN,' The FBI might want to revisit their wireless network naming conventions."

267 comments

  1. TBO.com? by Pope · · Score: 1

    Teen bomber online? We really do need better names for things.

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    1. Re:TBO.com? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 5, Informative

      What the fuck is wrong with slashdot? This is beyond obviously fake. I know four people who've named their wireless networks that. It's a goddamned meme.

    2. Re:TBO.com? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh wait, it's samzenpus. I get it. I done been trolled.

    3. Re:TBO.com? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

      Yeah. I know of at least 2-3 people who have created fake FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN networks to screw with their neighbors.

      Anyone believing that a network with that SSID is actually an FBI van is a complete and total idiot.

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    4. Re:TBO.com? by swan5566 · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...except this time a person was actually arrested by the FBI.

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    5. Re:TBO.com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's true, the FBI's smarter than we thought, then. "Hiding in plain sight", indeed.

    6. Re:TBO.com? by SpockLogic · · Score: 2

      Yeah. I know of at least 2-3 people who have created fake FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN networks to screw with their neighbors.

      Anyone believing that a network with that SSID is actually an FBI van is a complete and total idiot.

      When I set my next door neighbors network up I named it DEA_SURVEILLANCE_7. Bunch of youngsters renting a house down the street left shortly after. Probably both events are unconnected.

    7. Re:TBO.com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...except this time a person was actually arrested by the FBI.

      Tampa Police Department actually.

    8. Re:TBO.com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > Anyone believing that a network with that SSID is actually an FBI van is a complete and total idiot.

      Seriously. Everyone knows that the FBI really uses PARTY_VAN.

    9. Re:TBO.com? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2

      I bet you believe in bird flight omens too.

      Setting aside the fact that he wasn't arrested by the FBI, there is such a thing is pure, banal coincidence.

    10. Re:TBO.com? by stonewallred · · Score: 1

      I have a wireless router running named FBILOADNET. Wonder how many people have tried to access the network? Alll of them have failed, as I can guarantee not even the NSA could crack into my wireless server and either use it or access anything connected to it of mine.

    11. Re:TBO.com? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed, these people were the same people that hunted Bin Laden. My innocent respect for both groups of soulless predators has been severely damaged.

    12. Re:TBO.com? by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Fun fact: samzenpus is really Junis, editing slashdot from his sweet Linux-running Amiga in Afghanistan.

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    13. Re:TBO.com? by Lifyre · · Score: 2

      That begs the question... IS there anything connected to it?

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    14. Re:TBO.com? by Guppy · · Score: 1

      Maybe they should just simply have named it "V&".

    15. Re:TBO.com? by Mia'cova · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good strategy.. have a honeypot wifi network with the name corresponding to your last name or address.. Let people waste their time trying to crack it when really it's just your old linksys sitting around. Of course, it's also a waste of power and effort when no one actually cares to see my traffic.

    16. Re:TBO.com? by Mia'cova · · Score: 2

      Yup, I remember seeing this in a reddit "what network id have you used to screw with your neighbors" thread. When something hits around +1000, a word-for-word copy becomes pretty easy to spot.

    17. Re:TBO.com? by flowwolf · · Score: 1

      what makes you think the one on reddit wasn't a word for word copy of something else. This is a wireless network gag from long back.

    18. Re:TBO.com? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      While that may be a meme never underestimate the dumbshit stupidity of the feds. true story:

      My late sis was the head of the local clic and pretty much had the sheep in line whenever she was at the local hangout which was this video arcade. So one of the Bambi types comes up to her and says 'there is somebody out there that wants to see you" and when she heads out what does she see? Classic fed, complete with ear piece, dark suit, board up the ass attitude, the whole works. I swear he goes "We're uhhh Jehovah's witnesses and was wondering if you could get the other girls to come out here so we can talk to them?".

      She just rolled her eyes and said "Whatever Mr FBI, why don't you be honest and I'll see what I can do, otherwise i'm heading back in." It turned out there was a guy in there wanted in like 3 states for rape and murder and they were afraid he'd grab a hostage. She with her excellent bullshitting skills managed to get the other kids out of there without tipping the guy off and then gave the feds the all clear. When they grabbed him it turned out he had enough firepower under his coat it could have been really messy.

      So never underestimate the feds for being Mr Obvious. According to sis they were such a stereotypical fed she wanted to laugh just looking at them, from the shined shoes to the classic MiB black unmarked fed car. She said anybody would have spotted their ass from a mile away they were so obvious. Subtle and FBI? Don't really go together in a sentence.

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    19. Re:TBO.com? by Mana+Mana · · Score: 1

      > . It's a goddamned meme.

      Haaa?! Someone said Big Tits? Ahhh, someone just took a college course; mores---there---bang!

    20. Re:TBO.com? by black+soap · · Score: 1

      Sounds like perfect cover. Who is going to believe the FBI is actually labeling their undercover surveillance van? It is so idiotic, it can't be true.

    21. Re:TBO.com? by Tink2000 · · Score: 1

      I don't know what the fuck you just said little kid, but it touched me deeply.

    22. Re:TBO.com? by guitarMan666 · · Score: 1

      Teen bomber online? We really do need better names for things.

      Yes. TBO.com as in Tampa Bay Online the website of WFLA (the local NBC affiliate) and the Tampa Tribune. Nothing fake about the site.

    23. Re:TBO.com? by superdave80 · · Score: 1

      That story sounds, like, totally true. I'm sure the FBI sit around outside acting like Jehovah's Witnesses, and send in some civilian to keep the guy there, rather than busting in and arresting the guy.

    24. Re:TBO.com? by the_B0fh · · Score: 1

      you need two. Something must generate traffic and IP addresses, and nothing is better than busybox on another linksys constantly pinging the first wifi.

      no traffic - boring
      lots of traffic - interesting

    25. Re:TBO.com? by kwiqsilver · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like perfect cover. Who is going to believe the FBI is actually labeling their undercover surveillance van? It is so idiotic, it can't be true.

      Ah, but they would have known you'd know that, so you clearly cannot choose the WAP in front of you!

    26. Re:TBO.com? by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Traffic where all the packets are the same size and in a repetitive ping/pong sequence = boring and you can tell this even without decrypting it, you want something like tcpsic to generate totally random traffic.

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    27. Re:TBO.com? by cprael · · Score: 1

      http://www.facebook.com/buznagn#!/profile.php?id=100001315987381&sk=wall

      Profile dates back into July. Before he came to public attention.

    28. Re:TBO.com? by shentino · · Score: 1

      Which may just mean someone close to him wanted to play a sick joke.

      Getting V& attracts fake feds at least as much as it does real ones.

      The fact that we are discussing it on slashdot probably means his case has generated some publicity.

    29. Re:TBO.com? by Kyont · · Score: 1

      My question is: what is this guy doing sitting around having access to Facebook? I'm all for innocent-until-proven-guilty, but in most cases involving multiple planned murders, isn't it standard practice to hold them in a prison cell until the trial?

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    30. Re:TBO.com? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      If you have DD-WRT you can basically set up an SSID that isn't connected to a network in any way, so you don't waste power. Takes less than a minute to set up.

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    31. Re:TBO.com? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I wouldn't be horribly surprised if he happened to see me. :) I'm in the area. My laptop and phone advertise "NSA Surveillance Van [some number]". And ... hmmm ... I was parked out near there (by the address in the linked article) not all that long ago, working on the laptop in the back of my vehicle, while waiting for someone at a local business.

          If it wasn't me, it was probably someone close by who happened to see my name, or as you said, just picked up the meme.

          The article doesn't say anything about the summary though. Are we just yanking stories out of our ass again?

        Congrats to him, he successfully outed a neighbor with a sense of humor.

          I've also been known to use bank names (preferably one close by), local businesses, and variations on free wifi names. It all depends on the mood I'm in when I bring it up. The laptop and phone advertised names change often enough.

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    32. Re:TBO.com? by wiedzmin · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of Simpsons' "Flowers By Irene" surveillance van.

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    33. Re:TBO.com? by wwphx · · Score: 1

      You know, I have a spare WAP sitting around, I think I'll power it up only I'll call it NSA_Surveillance_Van, and no internet connection.

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    34. Re:TBO.com? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      I know four people who've named their wireless networks that.

      You know a fifth now, for fairly small values of "know", and given little things like when/if I get home, and the fact that the network name is likely to be something more like "[CITY] POLICE DRUG SQUAD" ... but yeah.

      It's a goddamned meme.

      And it's a good meme because it's spreading.

      Since I don't use the wireless at home (why would one?), it might be amusing and informative. Cycle through a few likely-sounding names, log which MACs try to access which networks, try to correlate between cars on the street and login attempts, and find out interesting things about your neighbours...
      ... things which I either knew or strongly suspected long ago.

      Still be amusing to see if there's an effect.

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  2. Vehicle markings by acidradio · · Score: 1

    Let me guess - he looked out the window and saw a van marked Flowers By Irene or Charlie's Independent Analysis....

    1. Re:Vehicle markings by Altus · · Score: 1

      Or:

      "Please, ignore this van; we are not spies."

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    2. Re:Vehicle markings by MattGWU · · Score: 1

      "Two Guys From Quantico Pizza"

      "Plumber"

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  3. And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...I'm renaming my network to mess with the tinfoil hats.

    1. Re:And... by DurendalMac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And that's probably what it was. I have a friend who named his wifi network something similar. It's not an uncommon joke, and honestly, do you really think the Feds would have a visible wifi network, much less one that is so conspicuously named? Give me a break. What a complete and utter non-story.

    2. Re:And... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Mine's been called "FBI Headquarters" for years...

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    3. Re:And... by nospam007 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have an extra router, unconnected to anything with the ID 'Pussy4hire'.
      You can't imagine how many teens in the neighborhood are trying to hack it.

    4. Re:And... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Unless it was a honeypot open wifi, to allow for packet sniffing. Admittedly, I don't know why one would try to cover their tracks by using a network by that name, even if they thought it was fake.

    5. Re:And... by DurendalMac · · Score: 1

      Exactly. If they wanted a honeypot, they could name it "linksys" and leave it wide open.

    6. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None, because they're teenagers and couldn't afford the going rates. Next?

    7. Re:And... by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      You think the feds are network certified? The story is certainly real, also I'm sure he would have seen it before if it wasn't new.

      Doesn't take away from the 1337 stupidity of the fed for their naming convention / not hiding ssd / having a wireless network in van ??? rofl u going to move your laptop from the back seat to the front and don't want to carry the wire? rofl

    8. Re:And... by SkyDude · · Score: 4, Funny

      My son came home from college in 2010 and while attempting to connect him to our home network, I see in his connection history, an SSID of all numbers, like 000-00-0000. It took me a moment, but then realized some douche in his dorm must have been running a wifi access point and when he saw 'SSID', must have assumed it meant Social Security ID.

      I wonder if the kid ever purchased a Lifelock subscription.

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    9. Re:And... by Rhodri+Mawr · · Score: 1

      Mine's been called "Martians" for years. It keeps the neighbours guessing...

    10. Re:And... by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      Mine is: Please_Share_Your_Personal_Info_With_ME

      Wide open WiFi for 2 years, in a 200 unit condo, and Never had anyone log on! (Unless they were so l33t I never knew they were there...)

      They thought I was "hacking them all" after that:)

      Couldn't wait for one of those fsckers to connect to It!

      Cheers!

    11. Re:And... by Rastl · · Score: 1

      Well played sir. Well played.

      Now I must do something similar with my extra router.

    12. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would you know how many people are trying to hack it if it's not connected to anything?

    13. Re:And... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I'm supposing you've never tried to keep a lot of gear in a vehicle.

      Unnecessary wires are devilspawn.

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    14. Re:And... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      It could have been an intentional joke. It was a dorm, after all.

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    15. Re:And... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Or it's just someone messing around with a funny SSID. After all, the kid was arrested by the local PD, not the FBI. That makes a lot more sense than what you are suggesting.

    16. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most routers have rudimentary logs.

    17. Re:And... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Wires are devilspawn.

      FTFY.

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    18. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...which you can only poll by connecting to something with an output device.

    19. Re:And... by Delarth799 · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the stupidity of people.

    20. Re:And... by couchslug · · Score: 1

      If the Feds had a sense of humor, they'd name it Party_Van instead.

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    21. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I was in charge of the party van I'd have to go with Lulz_Will_Be_Had_By_All_But_You.

    22. Re:And... by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      My favorite so far is one I saw when I was attempting to find a wifi network while at work.

      The SSID was GET YOUR OWN.

    23. Re:And... by stderr_dk · · Score: 2

      Mine is: Please_Share_Your_Personal_Info_With_ME

      Wide open WiFi for 2 years, in a 200 unit condo, and Never had anyone log on!

      Of course not. Who would want to share any kind of info with Windows ME?

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    24. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always liked 'Pubic Hotspot'

    25. Re:And... by Mr+Z · · Score: 2

      Well, you could connect over... *drumroll please* ...WiFi!

    26. Re:And... by Baron_Yam · · Score: 0

      Wives are devilspawn.

      FTFY.

    27. Re:And... by superdave80 · · Score: 1

      The feds had no involvement in this (they weren't even mentioned in the article). Local police arrested the kid.

    28. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IJSMPLSH (I Just Shit My Pants Laughing So Hard)

    29. Re:And... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I've seen one named "bugga off" and another named "FUCKUGETUROWNINTERNET"

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    30. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The feds had no involvement in this (they weren't even mentioned in the article). Local police arrested the kid.

      Will you people please quit posting that? You have no way of knowing that. The feds could have easily been involved through a fusion center.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_center

    31. Re:And... by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      >>The story is certainly real

      The *story* is certainly real. After all, we're all reading it.

      Whether or not "my homie Nic Peezy" is a reliable source is, of course, another matter altogether.

      As is the fact that anyone can name their network whatever they want. My favorite was a friend's whose SSID was something along the lines of "tell your wife to not quite be so noisy when she's making whoopie" - though much more succinctly, and with a bit less politeness.

  4. Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because there's no chance that could have been some random nearby resident with a sense of irony/humor.

  5. Common Name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't people normally name their home networks crap like that anyhow? I think I saw a 4CHAN_PARTY_VAN at my friend's apartment...

    1. Re:Common Name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I named mine "Skynet".

    2. Re:Common Name? by elsurexiste · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

      The most hilarious I've seen are "Turn down the music asshole", "I can hear you f*cking" and "Guess the password now prick"

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    3. Re:Common Name? by Pf0tzenpfritz · · Score: 1

      Hehehe. Mine is called "crack.exe.jpg"

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    4. Re:Common Name? by r_a_trip · · Score: 1

      I've used Skynet for a while too, but ultimately decided on Event Horizon. Partly because of the encryption (people don't know what lies behind the router) and partly because of the movie with the same name.

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  6. NSAWireTapVan4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the name of my WiFi tether spot on my Android, but that doesn't make it legit.

    1. Re:NSAWireTapVan4 by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be hilarious if they actually did get data out of that somehow?

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  7. filter your post submissions a bit more by Fanolex · · Score: 1

    anyone can make up an ssid. come on, slashdot.

    1. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by roccomaglio · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but the FBI was really investigating him.

    2. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, I setup a fake wireless network for April Fools labeled "FBI Field Van" once. Reading the article I see no mention of it actually be a real FBI network, it could have just been someone like me.

      Not news.

    3. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and? His neighbor's are probably trying to screw with him since they know.

    4. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by Jeng · · Score: 1

      If the FBI was investigating him, why was it the Tampa Police who arrested him and took credit?

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    5. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      the FBI did not think he was L33t enough for them to need to take credit??

      The SAIC owed the tampa police a collar for a past favor??

      Micheal Weston actually caught the guy and the FBI does not want to take the hit if this is found out??

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    6. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but Micheal works in Miami, not Tampa. Perhaps you forgot, I mean I only say it at the beginning of every episode. ("Where am I?" "Miami.")

      Sincerely,
      Fiona Glenanne

    7. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please do not provide more information about Michael.

      Management

    8. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by superdave80 · · Score: 1

      Where in the article did it say that the FBI were involved?

    9. Re:filter your post submissions a bit more by cusco · · Score: 1

      It was an attempted bombing, FBI is always involved if ATF doesn't get there first.

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  8. Neighbors have a sense of humor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's either a joke or an attempt to make him cocky so that he'll blab.

  9. Just because it was named that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Doesn't mean it was actually an FBI access point. (Quick, show of hands of people who didn't already know that?... *crickets*...)

    People can name their SSIDs everything they want, and it certainly wouldn't be the first time someone gave their wireless network a certain name to make some people raise their eyebrows or chuckle. Nothing to see here.

  10. renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    Does that count as impersonating an officer of the law? Barring some over zealous district attorney...

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    1. Re:renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by Mia'cova · · Score: 2

      No, it doesn't. It really needs to be something that actually identifies you as an officer, eg a fake id. I can wear a shirt that says FBI on it and that's fine. If I tried to use the shirt to get into a secured area, that would be different as I'd be using it for identification.

    2. Re:renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      And people in the FBI are banned from wearing identifying clothing unless on an op. So anyone walking down the street wearing an FBI shirt is not in the FBI, guaranteed, so it could never be considered identification.

    3. Re:renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then it could be the ultimate cover- no cover. An agent impersonating a civy wearing an FBI shirt. 1. Concealment. Check 2. Identifiable. Check. Layers should all be happy- Prosecutor-"But your honor he was wearing an FBI shirt" Defense-"He was wearing a shirt that said FBI on it- his SOP's state he is not allowed to wear a shirt unless he is on OP" Prosecutor-"He arrested your client- that makes him on OP. Your client was aware of that before he committed the crime"

    4. Re:renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by Yert · · Score: 1

      I have a shirt that says "Undercover Cop" on it. One day, I threw it on without thinking and didn't realize the interesting situations I was setting myself up for, as that day I was 1) flying between two domestic airports with a layover at a third, and 2) crossing an international border. Fortunately, much amusement was had by all, including the pilot of the first plane, who stopped me upon boarding to ask, "So... are you an undercover cop?" I replied, "Would you believe me if I said I wasn't?" He laughed, then said, "Seriously - do you have any weapons on you or are trained in CPR? I need to know." I said "No, and yes." He thanked me and told me to enjoy the flight. Border patrol just chuckled, but that day could have been so much worse - just because of a wardrobe miscalculation...

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    5. Re:renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      I can wear a shirt that says FBI on it and that's fine. If I tried to use the shirt to get into a secured area, that would be different as I'd be using it for identification.

      "'Female Body Inspector?' Looks legit to me. Let him in."

    6. Re:renaming your WiFi AP to government agency by wwphx · · Score: 1

      I had a shirt that said "Proud to be an Undercover CIA Agent." I enjoyed wearing that on casual Friday when I worked for the police department.

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  11. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wireless network is named "unsuspcious_plain_white_van

  12. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next time "NOT_A_FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN"

    Definitely would make me believe the flower van outside is not a fed van

  13. BS by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't believe that one bit. First off, we can assume that the FBI has more than one surveillance van, in which they can't all have the same SSID. They would include some sort of vehicle ID, etc. Second, this kid was living in some delusional word trying to make himself out to be a lot more than he was. I think he was hinting to his friends on FB and trying to sound like a badass of some sort. He was obviously running his mouth about his plans, which is how he was caught - someone turned him in. Perhaps that was his way of reaching out for help before he actually acted. Regardless, just because he posted it on FB doesn't mean that his friend really saw that wireless SSID.

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    1. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, they probably do all have the same SSID, that way their systems don't have to be reconfigured every time they want to switch van.

    2. Re:BS by RanCossack · · Score: 1

      His friend might have seen it, too. Around here, people like thinking up funny names for their SSIDs. It wouldn't mean the FBI really made the hotspot.

    3. Re:BS by CobaltBlueDW · · Score: 1

      In my current wireless networks list, as I write this is, there is an available network called "MadPD_SurveillanceVan_013", and there IS in fact a Madison surveillance van out on the street. --So this does not in any way surprise me. Granted the vehicle ID bit makes sense, but just because his FB post didn't include one doesn't mean that the actual SSID didn't originally have one. If I were making a facebook post I don't think I would be too concerned about the "_013" when making the post.

      --And he had a very good point about the naming convention, or to be more accurate, the fact that the SSID was being publicly broadcast at all... I'm sure if I really wanted to, and the van wasn't using MAC filtering, I could hack my way onto the van's network and poke around. I mean, I don't have anything to hide and I have better security than that. Police don't even want to be video-taped doing their civil service, and can't muster-up the security precautions to hide their SSID. Someone is not doing their job properly.

    4. Re:BS by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      The FBI isn't that dumb. Sorry folks nothing to see here it never happened.

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    5. Re:BS by dave420 · · Score: 1

      You can easily sniff for MAC addresses of wireless clients, and assume one yourself. The network would have to be using WEP for you to actually get access, though.

      Also, how do you know that someone else who knows the van there isn't just messing around with their SSID, playing a joke? You seem to be assuming an awful lot.

      Critical thinking - it's what's for dinner.

    6. Re:BS by geekoid · · Score: 1

      ", in which they can't all have the same SSID"

      that not?

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    7. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can have more than one SSID use the same ESSID. I don't see why you are assuming that you can't.

    8. Re:BS by geekoid · · Score: 1

      That not? THAT NOT? WTH?

      "Why not?"

      I need to get new meds.

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    9. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Critical thinking - it's what's for dinner.

      Slashdot - you must be new here.

    10. Re:BS by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      Probably uses a Mac. Apple hasn't caught onto that little fact you see, so any Apple device dies horribly when exposed to multiple networks using the same BSSID/ESSID.

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    11. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's possible. Course, maybe a neighbor did it to mess with his head?

    12. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would they name each van something different? If they did that they would have to configure each device to connect to each van. We have thousands of hotspots at work and they all have the same SSID (okay that's a lie, they have multiple SSIDS; most have the same 4, but some only have three).

    13. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish that was true. how many wifi vans do you really think the fbi has, and how often are they going to be in close enough proximity for the SSID to cause a problem. The guy is an idiot but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not true.

    14. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I setup wireless in gov vehicles. They all have the same ssid so I don't have to type them all in to the crappy interface that is the group policy wireless settings editor.

    15. Re:BS by failedlogic · · Score: 1

      " First off, we can assume that the FBI has more than one surveillance van, in which they can't all have the same SSID. They would include some sort of vehicle ID, etc."

      What you mean like, FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN_(insert LICENCEPLATE#)

      The government likes to inventory the hell out of everything. This makes it practical.

      And when you're in a covert mission and there are 4 support vans and only one of them has the mission sensitive info you need, you have to know which one to connect to.

    16. Re:BS by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      Yeah-- give us the MAC :)

    17. Re:BS by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      CIA_ASSASSINATION_SQUAD

    18. Re:BS by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      _VAN_89

    19. Re:BS by EdIII · · Score: 1

      Not one bit?

      1st off, you can have multiple access points with the same SSID. Not a problem at all. There could even be a reason for it. Think about it. If you have a bunch of FBI agents running around in an area under surveillance with multiple vans (if there were multiple, never meeting, why not have a single name?) this is where roaming would be an advantage. I could see where multiple vans might be at a location.

      Also, don't assume that the FBI might not have working for them somebody that would leave the unit broadcasting the SSID. The tech may have thought it was for something else and never considered it would be used near suspects under surveillance. There are some fairly average and stupid techs out there, and I don't find it implausible that some of them may be working for the government.

      You really think the government at every level is truly competent all the time?

    20. Re:BS by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It was probably his neighbour. The case has been in the media, they must have known that the FBI was involved and decided to have some fun by changing their network's SSID.

      I saw a network called "i_can_hear_you_having_sex" near me. The joke is on them, obviously whoever set it up doesn't know I am an avid Slashdot poster.

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    21. Re:BS by ruvreve · · Score: 1

      While I agree with the rest of your post....

      First off, we can assume that the FBI has more than one surveillance van, in which they can't all have the same SSID. They would include some sort of vehicle ID, etc.

      Why can't all the vans have the same SSID? This would allow the FBI agents to switch vans daily and not have to re-connect their laptops each time they use a different van. This assumes they use the same authentication/password as well.

      I've setup multiple residential and low-budget commercial networks with low-end access points in this manner and it works relatively well. Not to say this is the best or right way, but when has that ever stopped somebody.

    22. Re:BS by CobaltBlueDW · · Score: 1

      assuming the simplest answer is right is not "assuming an awful lot", it is in fact only assuming on thing, and it is the right assumption.

    23. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever talked to those people before? I have, and before the bad jokes start, they contacted me for help. To start with, they have some smart people, unfortunately they are outnumbered by the incredibly stupid egotistical ones. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest that some moron named their wireless network that, you should see some of the other stupid stunts they've done with their computers.
      If you ever have to talk to them over an issue dealing with technology, especially computers, try to make sure the one you're talking to doesn't believe in magic pixie dust inside the black box...

  14. Correction by Toe,+The · · Score: 1

    Correction: Teen posts some BS about finding a FBI wifi network.

    Really? Do we believe everything some jerkoff posts on Facebook now?

    The article itself is pretty amazing: it's mostly a report of the kids social media posts. WTF is that? Journalism?

    1. Re:Correction by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And a report of the FBI actually arresting the kid. Did you read the same article?

    2. Re:Correction by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Actually you might want to re-read that.

      The Tampa Police are taking credit for the investigation and the arrest. The only mention of FBI in the story was the reference to the FB post.

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    3. Re:Correction by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Correction: Teen posts some BS about finding a FBI wifi network.

      Really? Do we believe everything some jerkoff posts on Facebook now?

      Next Slashdot story (subscribers can see it early!) - "Photo of yummy sandwich".

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    4. Re:Correction by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Don't run! Is only sandvich!

      http://www.steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
        Ah ha ha ha ha! Baloney!

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    5. Re:Correction by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It's on the internet. Doesn't that make it true?

    6. Re:Correction by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

      I dunno, looks legit to me.

      In fact.. it looks... too legit... too legit to quit.

    7. Re:Correction by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      With http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_center its all in the mix.
      Local, state, fed, mil - its all local now.

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    8. Re:Correction by cusco · · Score: 1

      That's what passes for journalism today, unfortunately. For that matter, the writer probably has "Investigative Journalist" on their job title. Jack Anderson must be spinning in his grave. The two best American-born investigative journalists today had to leave the country to find work (Greg Palast - England, and Al Giordano - Mexico), and the third (Gary Webb) was suicided.

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    9. Re:Correction by joocemann · · Score: 1

      No.... Thats fox news.

    10. Re:Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correction: Teen posts some BS about finding a FBI wifi network.

      Really? Do we believe everything some jerkoff posts on Facebook now?

      The article itself is pretty amazing: it's mostly a report of the kids social media posts. WTF is that? Journalism?

      Correction: teen finds wireless acces point named using one of the many memes on the Internet and assumesit was really the FBI. My iPhone is named "FBI surveillance van 3" just so it'll show up that way when I enable the hot spot. It's been like that for months.

  15. I do this by tongue · · Score: 1

    I usually name my wifi "_SURVEILLANCE" just to mess with my neighbors

    1. Re:I do this by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      Same reason mine's named "Virus Testbed".

    2. Re:I do this by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I thought it was named after your mother.

    3. Re:I do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I thought that was named after your mother.

      -Kelbear's neighbor

    4. Re:I do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I made it through Defcon with 419 attempts to connect to my FBI_Mobile SSID and steal data.

    5. Re:I do this by Unequivocal · · Score: 1

      lol - for real. You got me. Good one.

  16. Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a 0% chance that it was actually the FBI's van, people name their wireless networks that on purpose. In fact, do some basic Googling for "funny wifi network names" and searches similar to that and FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN will be on every single one of them. I can't believe this was posted AS A SERIOUS ARTICLE on Slashdot.

    1. Re:Sad by black+soap · · Score: 1

      I wonder how many people the FBI hire to spread the meme that it is funny to name your SSID "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN"?

  17. big deal by ancientevil · · Score: 1

    I actually set that same ssid as a joke and still use it; this post belongs on facebook

  18. pure urban myth by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 3, Informative

    this joke made its way around my circles a few months ago. you're supposed to change the name of your home wireless network to "fbi surveillance van" (those exact words, too) to freak out people who are hanging around your house stealing bandwidth. this isn't the stupidest article that's been posted, but it's close.

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    1. Re:pure urban myth by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

      It is supposed to be "FBI surveillance van #42"

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    2. Re:pure urban myth by wsanders · · Score: 1

      Remember to use a different number from the rest of your neighbors.

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    3. Re:pure urban myth by Phleg · · Score: 1

      Heh, ours is "FBI Surveillance Van 4d134b".

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  19. Is this a joke? by schnikies79 · · Score: 1

    My roommate and myself had that as our SSID for years.

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    1. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My roommate and myself had that as our SSID for years.

      It's still on my DD-WRT as an alternate SSID.

  20. this exact SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was posted to 4chon in a thread titled "dubs names my SSID" or something similar, 2 or 3 days ago. So, this proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he lives near an uncreative /b/tard.

  21. Bullshit. He found two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Diddly
    and
    2) Squat

    The Feds do not use commodity 2.4GHz or 5.xGHz WiFi gear.

    They use 4.9GHz WiFi gear, which you cannot even legally buy in the US unless you're a government agency.

    1. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Diddly
      and
      2) Squat

      The Feds do not use commodity 2.4GHz or 5.xGHz WiFi gear.

      They use 4.9GHz WiFi gear, which you cannot even legally buy in the US unless you're a government agency.

      That last part's bullshit. You may or may not be able to find any manufacturers willing to sell it to you, but anyone can legally own radios for any frequency they damn well please with exceptions _only_ for cellular telephone frequencies. Operating it, OTOH, is illegal, but that's an entirely different thing...

    2. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by webmistressrachel · · Score: 1

      Hmmm.. and you know this because you've been hacking them yourself right?

      As much as I'd be forced to agree with the majority of points in this discussion (it's not the Feds, duh!), I have to point out that if the FBI was sniffing my (or your) trafffic, they'd have to use the same 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz gear, otherwise they couldn't sniff a thing!

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    3. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by bws111 · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between being legal to own and being legal to buy (or sell). For instance, it is not legal to sell 23-channel CB radios.

    4. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Their sniffer would not be broadcasting anything, surely...

    5. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by Calos · · Score: 1

      No, not really. All they need to sniff your packets is a client that can connect to your network (e.g. a laptop or phone). Doesn't stop them from using a completely separate system for their internal communications.

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    6. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Nah why broadcast SSID at all to sniff?

      They can use off the shelf wifi NICs for that.

      Well lets be honest, FBI? Their contractor buys off the shelf NICs, repackages them and sells them for 1000X the price.

      Stll not broadcasting an SSID though.

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    7. Re:Bullshit. He found two things... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      The statement "it's not legal to buy" is correct, even if innacurate. It implies that the buyer commits some offense. However, it is illegal to buy in that to buy, someone must sell it to you, and that sale is illegal. So it is not legal to buy it because somone at the transaction is breaking the law.

  22. I am so doing this on my network by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1

    Or maybe, al_qaeda_local_549

    .

    1. Re:I am so doing this on my network by Jeng · · Score: 1

      How about "infected_node_347*1" ?

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    2. Re:I am so doing this on my network by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      That will *definitely* get your home raided. Believe me-- every time I'm *really* POed at someone, I attach a battery-powered AP with that SSID to the side of their house.

  23. New Network Name by Sigvatr · · Score: 1

    Totally changing my network name to this.

  24. Josh Helfferich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Josh Helfferich (@Digerati) posted this on Twitter 16-AUG-2011:
    'Just renamed my apartment WiFi network to "FBI Surveillance Van #57" because my neighbors were being jerks'

    It is great when the news reporters get hit by an internet meme.

  25. How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did this end up on the front page of slashdot? What a ridiculous story.

  26. They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nothing to see here folks, just a white van with men in suits and ties inside.

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    1. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing to see here folks, just a white van with men in suits and ties inside.

      Well suits and ties in a van in summer in Florida sitting there for hours WOULD freak the neighbors out!

    2. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Nonsense! Just a bunch of men in an unmarked van watching your children walk down the street, that's all. Nothing unusual about it, folks.

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    3. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by drolli · · Score: 1

      No, they fetch their friends which arrive in NO_SUCH_AUTOMOBILE

    4. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      They've spotted us! Quick, use the flashy thing on them!

    5. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that a little obvious? I mean, at least the PIZZA_DELIVERY_VAN guys parked down the street have an ad painted on the side for "Genuine Russian-Ukrainian Pizza".

    6. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by lahvak · · Score: 1

      That would freak me out!

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    7. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by couchslug · · Score: 1

      The cartoon bear in the back makes me nervous...

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    8. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      I prefer "Flowers By Irene".

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    9. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please...I have friends with that SSID...they use it to mess with people, I know some think the government is stupid but really...who ever thinks that was a legit van is an idiot.

    10. Re:They're swtiching to NON_DESCRIPT_VAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better go with 4CHAN_PARTY_VAN

  27. OP.. welcome to the interwebz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey guys FBI_SURVELANCE_VAN_#42 is around here somewhere! It shows up on my list of wifi connections...
    Also 'MAFIA_SAFEROOM', 'ALIENS_R_HERE, 'AL_GORES_HOUSE', and "ICANHEARYOUHAVINGSEX' are listed too!!!

    1. Re:OP.. welcome to the interwebz by rhook · · Score: 1

      I'm "FBI Van #617", been using that SSID for years to fuck with the locals.

  28. OMG! The FBI is outside! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just checked and there is a wireless network named "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN". Degaussing hard drives now...

  29. I remember when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...stories posted on slashdot actually were interesting to people in technology.

    This is just pathetic.

    I saw a SSID called, "ALIEN_UFO_SPECIES_123". My friend saw it too. Obviously we are being visited by aliens and the probing is about to begin.

    This is just pathetic.

  30. I think I will go with by DrData99 · · Score: 1

    something like LocalPD_NarcoticsSquad!

    1. Re:I think I will go with by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      What kinda hood you live in :P ?

  31. "I_got_pussy_for_installation" by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    "I_got_pussy_for_installation" was one ssid I saw once(well, thrice). it wasn't exactly that string though, as it was in finnish. funny anyways.

    anyhow, if some neighbor of his(this guy) knew of the fbi raid or surveillance, they might have just put it up to spite. the ssid i saw might've been intentional by some tongue in cheek chick - or not.

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  32. chosens; profitsized genocidal holycost extendead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they cite lack of co-operation from us unchosens, & offering no apology or condolences, just more endless suffering, as it was written, & re-written over & over.

    it's clearly an unproven mess, evidenced by the apparent need for even more deceptive distracting sideshow style theatrics by our rulers & the chosen ones' miniotic neogods arrogance.

    should it not be considered that the domestic threats to all of us/our
    lives & freedoms perpetrated by unsavory megalomaniacs be intervened on/removed, so we wouldn't be compelled to hide our
    sentiments, &/or the truth, about ANYTHING, including the origins of the
    hymenology council, & their sacred mission? with nothing left to hide,
    there'd be room for so much more genuine quantifiable progress?

    you call this 'weather'? much of our land masses/planet are going under
    water, or burning up, as we fail to consider anything at all that really
    matters, as we've been instructed that we must maintain our silence (our
    last valid right?), to continue our 'safety' from... mounting terror.

    meanwhile, back at the raunch; there are exceptions? the unmentionable
    sociopath weapons peddlers are thriving in these times of worldwide
    sufferance? the royals? our self appointed murderous neogod rulers? all
    better than ok, thank..... us. their stipends/egos/disguises are secure,
    so we'll all be ok/not killed by mistaken changes in the MANufactured
    'weather', or being one of the unchosen 'too many' of us, etc...?

    truth telling & disarming are the only mathematically & spiritually
    correct options. read the teepeeleaks etchings. see you there?

    diaperleaks group worldwide.

    ahab the arab's 'funniest' home vdo; http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bb_1312569503

  33. Nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows that their SSID is PARTY_VAN.

    1. Re:Nonsense by rhook · · Score: 1

      That's only half of their SSID, the full string is "PARTY_VAN_FREE_CANDY".

  34. Fail tag for posting the story? by Baatezu · · Score: 1

    I have to assume the [fail] tag is because they actually posted the story here... WTF... I've been reading ./ for a while now. Hardly ever log in (had to hunt down my password)... but srsly... this is ... There are no words in entish, elvish or the tongues of man to describe how much of a fail it is for this to get posted, as a serious article.

    1. Re:Fail tag for posting the story? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Elvish:
      "A Slashdot Turambar turún' ambartanen"
      So apparently there are word in elvish.

      I don't speak entish because it's too much like barking.

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    2. Re:Fail tag for posting the story? by ryantmer · · Score: 1

      I don't speak entish because it's too much like barking.

      It would also take you a very, long, time, to say it.

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  35. Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by swb · · Score: 1

    My SSID is "SHOCKING PORN" and when my sister-in-law got wifi, I made sure she understood there was a password and we set the SSID to "Fuck Off, Freeloaders!"

    My general experience is that most of the time the immediate neighbors on both sides wifi bleeds in/out at about 1 "bar" of strength, so its not like anybody even sees the SSIDs unless they are in my house or outside.

    1. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by geekoid · · Score: 0

      In short, your an ass.

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    2. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow your houses are far apart. I can usually see a half dozen to a dozen SSIDs from my house.

    3. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by tuxicle · · Score: 1

      Some of the better APs will let you set the signal strength. I set mine down to -10 dBm (lowest available), but I can still get a signal from several hundred feet away.

    4. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by Paul1969 · · Score: 1

      Guess your neighborhood is less densely populated than mine. In my WiFi menu, I can see between 3 and 6 networks pretty much all the time (and one of them is open). Boring bunch around here, though. Most have the damn default equipment name.

    5. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah well, not everybody lives on a farm with the closest neighbour far far away. In my appartment I currently see 7 SSIDs which are not mine, 5 out of which are above 1 "bar".

    6. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, you need to control your Asperger's better.

      How about just WPA?

    7. Re:Outrageous SSIDs are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do not understand how wifi works. Please read this article from 2005. It is still true. I will cut and paste the part most relevant to you below.

      The six dumbest ways to secure a wireless LAN
      By George Ou | March 18, 2005, 2:01am PST

      http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/the-six-dumbest-ways-to-secure-a-wireless-lan/43

      Antenna placement: I've heard the craziest thing from so called security experts that actually tell people to only put their Access Points in the center of their building and put them at minimal power. Antenna placement does nothing to deter hackers. Remember, the hacker will always have a bigger antenna than you which can home in on you from a mile away. Making a wireless LAN so weak only serves to make the wireless LAN useless. Antenna placement and power output should be designed for maximum coverage and minimum interference. It should never be used as a security mechanism.

  36. Obsously not real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows the FBI is full of jar heads that can hardly log into a wireless network let alone setup a router with an SSID like that.

  37. As others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    have said, this is probably bullshit. Other than the obvious reasons, why would anyone use SOMETHING_LIKE_THIS as an SSID? It's not a constant in the Linux kernel tree or something. An SSID can have lots of different characters, there's no reason at all to be restricted to caps and underscores. There are some cases where such a naming convention is appropriate, and others where nobody would bother, if they even thought of it at all.

  38. FBI SURVEILLANCE VAN?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL!!! REALLY?? Does the FBI really call their wireless networks in their vans, "FBI SURVEILLANCE VAN"?? That sounds like something you would see in a kids' cartoon! HAHA I would think the FBI would come up with something more inconspicuous than that, like "Netgear" hehehhe This is too funny :)

    1. Re:FBI SURVEILLANCE VAN?!?! by PPH · · Score: 1

      Better yet: Hoover_Vacuum_Cleaner_Sales

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  39. Duh! and Dummer by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 1

    The reason our law enforcement is as good as it is, the ones who can't get into the police academy become criminals.

  40. yeah, that's me by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1

    That's my network. I named it that as a joke.

  41. VERIFICATION PLEASE?! by thedbp · · Score: 1

    Look, I title my WiFi networks weird things all the time, just because I know strangers will see it and be confused. Some are great wordplay, some are simply bizarre non-sequitors, some of them are downright disgusting, and some are deliberately misleading.

    My hunch is that this network is NOT that of an actual FBI surveillance van, but the product of a fun-loving person setting up their router.

    That said, it would be pretty simple to use wifi sniffing tools to pinpoint the source of the signal and actually, you know, VERIFY this absurd claim.

    I mean, the feds are stupid, but I don't think they're THAT stupid.

    1. Re:VERIFICATION PLEASE?! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Announcing your presence and watching the results can be very telling.
      FBI isn't stupid, and they do know their business*. They are educated. So it's best to assume something else is going on then to assume they are stupid; not that mistakes don't happen.

      It's lie someone doing a magic trick, and they pull the wrong card.haha what a moron..then 2 minutes later you are opening an egg with your card in it.

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    2. Re:VERIFICATION PLEASE?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet it's some neighbor who knows about this kids arrest.

    3. Re:VERIFICATION PLEASE?! by Unequivocal · · Score: 1

      This is the best thing you can do for strangers on your network: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

  42. I'm renaming my SSID by thewils · · Score: 1

    Even now, as I write this.

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    1. Re:I'm renaming my SSID by tunapez · · Score: 1

      So is that kid's neighbor...lulz

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    2. Re:I'm renaming my SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Even now, as I write this" is an unusual choice for SSID but whatever.

    3. Re:I'm renaming my SSID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm betting there will be a lot of these popping up over the next few days. Love it.

  43. Doesn't everybody do that? by Vengeance · · Score: 1

    My cell phone is "Flowers By Irene" whenever I enable wifi tethering.

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    It was a joke! When you give me that look it was a joke.
    1. Re:Doesn't everybody do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of mine is the same as my neighbor's. I don't know which neighbor because I can see 13 differnet SSIDs, and about 30 if I stand in the middle of my back yard.

    2. Re:Doesn't everybody do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silly, That is what is says on the outside of the truck. Who would suspect a flower delivery truck that sits on the block for hours on end.

      Flowers
      By
      Irene

  44. I have an extra WI-FI Router by sirgoran · · Score: 1

    Think I'll plug it in and set it up to broadcast "CIA_DEA_FBI_SURVEILLANCE" but not connect it to anything. I wonder how long it will be before it shows up in a story here...

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  45. How did he update his Facebook page from Prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy's in jail, do they have Internet Access from prison these days?

  46. Facebook updates != News by ActionDesignStudios · · Score: 1

    Seriously, there are 2-3 wireless networks around my apartment that are named something similar to this, probably by some people who still think this is surprising to others and/or funny.

  47. I've got one outside my office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, a wireless network with the title "FBI SURVEILLANCE VAN 13" or something of the sort showed up at my office a couple months ago. I assume it's a lame joke. I'm sure this kid's neighbor has the same sense of humor.

  48. actually, it's counter-espionage by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Nothing to see here folks, just a white van with men in suits and ties inside.

    and Guy Fawkes masks...

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  49. this is not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since I moved into my new apartment four months ago, there's been a wireless network named "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN".

    Mine is named "FreeInternet.com". Doesn't mean I actually own (or have ever visited) that URL. Or that my internet is free.

    Anybody else notice this article is NOT about the wireless SSID? It might actually be about a school bombing that may have almost happened. 90% of the way through the article, I did find the ONE sentence that talked about wireless networks.
    Thanks, Slashdot.

  50. TSA - Now that's a name by wdhowellsr · · Score: 1

    Check your wireless networks and you will likely find the TSA showing up on your computer. They don't show up all of the time but they obviously don't care that you know.

  51. if this counts as evidence... by rst123 · · Score: 1

    If this counts as evidence of FBI involvement, then what does it mean that I saw nearly the same thing about 90 miles north of the 49th? (I.E. the Canada/US border)

  52. it's time by WillyWanker · · Score: 1

    to rename my wifi network so I can freak out the neighbors.

  53. In jail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hard to update facebook when he is in jail

  54. Where's Deniro and Pesci when you need them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen this SSID in NYC before. Just figured it was someone trying to make others paranoid.

  55. Is this /. ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone remember what /. used to have useful stuff on it?

    Or was I just imagining it, and it was always pointless crap like this?

  56. CIA SAFE HOUSE by tdc_vga · · Score: 1

    Roughly 10 years ago, I was war-driving and one of the hotspots came up: 'CIA SAFE HOUSE'. The sad part was, I wasn't sure if it was a joke or if someone was actually that daft. It was a posh area of town, so I'm still undecided to this day.

  57. Fail by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    And after reading this story, the FBI circulated a memo instructing that the SSID should be changed to TOTALLY_NOT_FBI_SURVEILLANCE from now on.

  58. Lots of people use this naming convention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are quite a lot of us naming our guest networks FBI Surveillance Van 13 (pick your favorite number). I've seen this a bunch at conferences and friends houses.

  59. You'ld be surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've witnessed several raids in my gated community association, and after those raids there were a few WIFI hotspots that changed.

    I trangulated them and it pointed to a servo-controlled single-directional antenna on a power pole and where there was an actual WIFI Bridge pointing to another WIFI Bridge down the road about 1/4 mile where there was in-fact a van. Keep in mind that this was not a 4Chan-style "Party Van" that averages around 40-feet long and made by Hi-Lo or such, but a simple small cargo van without windows made by GMC.

    The names of the WIFI ssid you might all be wondering? There were two, but I only found that 1 bridge, but the ssid's were actually "SATAN" and "SATAN_GUEST." It would make sense to just blend-in your station as either an encryped "NETGEAR" or "LINKSYS" or "2WIRExxx" but these government employees just insist on being the left-hand of destruction and pomp by naming their networks as such. At this verry moment, those two networks are up and moving packets heavily, so my contentions is that they have WIFI cameras in someone's house to watch their every movements, because the rate of that data is such as what would be a live stream of video but it's so-encrypted with something else that I just can't make heads or tales of it.

    In my experience with the Government, when they have a hunch on something then they throw the rule-book out the window and violate everyone each way possible because the goal is a successful prosecution by illegally collecting evidences that they could cross-examine to point at evidence that they were allowed to present towards a judge as though with blind probability with deductive reasoning would have yielded such accuracy, but they have the answers because of studying the illegally-collected evidence. Typical.

    1. Re:You'ld be surprised. by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      I know your post is complete bullshit but I'd report that van as suspicious and then mention some young Arab men who come to check on it. Sit back and enjoy the show.

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    2. Re:You'ld be surprised. by Tink2000 · · Score: 1

      Bullshit meter... in the red.

  60. You Really Think They'd Broadcast a SSID? by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    It's not that hard to turn SSID broadcast off.

    But I'm totally changing my sprint mobile SSID to that and leaving the roaming wlan on from now on...

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  61. This is an old internet prank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't remember what forum it was posted on but I do remember reading 1 to 2 years ago a thread encouraging people to change their SSID to this. I think it was posted on reddit or 4chan but I can't find it on google search.

    Here is a comment from someone using this SSID as a joke in 2009: http://www.holytaco.com/25-hilarious-wifi-network-names/

  62. This is getting annoying now.. by Severus+Snape · · Score: 1

    So many news articles I read these days are based around a facebook status or someone's tweets. Infact, about a week ago the front page of the newspaper I buy was about something some celebrity wrote on twitter. There so called journalists need to get a fucking grip, do their job right and and start reporting proper news that people actually care about from decent sources.

  63. There is a difference by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    Sure if you see a random Wifi spot with a spooky name, I would agree with you. But you're missing part of the story. Just before the kid got busted is when the Wifi spot showed up. It wasn't there before. Suddenly the spooky Wifi spot shows up and right after that the kid gets busted.

    So if it is a coincidence that a neighbor named his Wifi spot something spooky to keep the kids out, then it's one heck of a coincidence.

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    Weaselmancer
    rediculous.
    1. Re:There is a difference by jakartus · · Score: 1

      But maybe one of his neighbors is technically inclined and changed it as a gag?

    2. Re:There is a difference by superdave80 · · Score: 1

      I think you're missing part of the story. Local police arrested the kid, not the FBI. In fact, the FBI is not even mentioned in the article.

  64. Since the story is bogus by BitHive · · Score: 1

    A story of my own. I set my SSID to "flancrest enterprises" and a few days later I noticed one of my neighbors had changed theirs to "CompuGlobalHyperMegaNet". True story.

  65. FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a wifi access with this name that I can see, and I live in Canada...

  66. Really??? by coryking · · Score: 1

    This has to be the dumbest fucking story I have ever read on this site. I can't tell if this article is serious or meant for a laugh. Sadly I think it is serious.

    As I write this, there is a nearby access point named "CIA Surveillance Van". You think that is the fucking CIA? Should submit a story about that?

    Jesus fucking christ. This is a new low for this site.

  67. Misleading SSID Contest! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google_Streetview_Van

  68. Right.... by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    I suppose that FBI agents are so technically inept that they commonly carry wifi routers in their vans (which would be completely unnecessary) and name their networks this obviously? I've seen "FBI" networks at least a couple of times, when not wardriving, so I doubt I it is easy to just stumble upon such stupidly named but authentic networks. Why didn't the person who submitted this article, or the one who approved it, realize that the moron of interest is not really smart enough to uncover an FBI investigation of him? Come one, seriously, what a waste of space, Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Right.... by DamienNightbane · · Score: 0

      People still go wardriving?

  69. Sensationalist summary strikes Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article really doesn't say that at all, now does it?

  70. Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now brush your teeth and clean your shoes.

    Leave nothing to chance.

    ++//--

  71. Wow; slashdot how embarrasing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is an embarrassing news article... I name my AP's stuff like this all the time. ESPECIALLY FBI Surveillance van, it keeps kids away from my wifi; they wont even try to mess with it.

  72. I saw it too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I also saw the FBI Surveillance wireless network and I have a picture to prove it. See the picture at the bottom of this page:
    http://lannyland.blogspot.com/2009/04/thrun-and-novig-offers-free-intro-to-ai.html

  73. Hot n Steamy Ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, that is really my SSID. Good icebreaker really.

  74. Get a job, hippies! by magusxxx · · Score: 1

    One time I saw across the street a mysterious green van with red flowers and lettering on it. I didn't think much about it until I checked my network and saw one connection labeled "THOSE_MEDDLING_KIDS"

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    Care killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
  75. Which is more likely... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I offer two scenarios:

    Scenario 1:
    The FBI, with years of training, loads of equipment and hundreds of experts, has a van with a WAP which is broadcasting an SSID of FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN which serves no purpose other than to announce their presence (as opposed to trying to mimic an existing SSID in order to dupe people into connecting to their WAP - or not broadcasting an SSID at all).

    Scenario 2:
    Some people who know this kid, who have heard his rantings, decide to mess with his head by plopping down a WAP that is broadcasting that SSID.

  76. wut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no single word in TFA about FBI wireless...

    sorry for reading it tough

  77. Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My SSID is "FBI Surveillance Van" and has been for 4 years.

  78. my sside is "doorsnoker" by crutchy · · Score: 1

    ...and proud of it :D there's a couple of other ssids in my neighbourhood that use boring names like "edupass43256" and "bigpond". these people obviously have no life :P

  79. Joke department? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, this could make a funny four line long joke, but a story ?

  80. Police Surveillance Van 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    never seen a fun SSID?
    http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/wifi.jpg
    kids these days...

  81. Exactly by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Their normal ID is two_guys_from_quantico_pizza .

  82. That's nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in a neighborhood with a lot of poor first generation immigrants and illegal immigrants. Not that I have a problem with people trying to make a better life for themselves, individually, but for fun I name my SSID "INS_SURVEILLANCE_VAN"

  83. Behind the times much? by dcsmith · · Score: 1

    This joke has been around for at least two years, folks...

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  84. Cosmo by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

    Makes me want to name mine Playtronics_Internal or Playtronics_Cray_YMP just to make people google it.

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  85. I doubt it... by CuriousGeorge113 · · Score: 1

    A real FBI surveillance van would broadcast a much more common SSID.

    Like 'linksys'

    or maybe

    'attwifi'

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    No man is an island, But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie them together, they make a pretty good raft.
  86. uhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My guest wireless is named FBI_surveillance_van_7819

  87. New name for my wireless network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My router can run 4 networks at once, 2 at 2.4 and 2 at 5. Each bandwidth allows for a guest network. Anyways I am naming them "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN_01", "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN_02", "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_HELICOPTER_01", and "FBI_SURVEILLANCE_DRONE"

  88. That's a really common SSID by Kalewa · · Score: 1

    FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN is an incredibly popular SSID that comes up on every list of clever network names I've ever seen. A friend of mine even uses it, though hers has some numbers attached to make it look better.

  89. In Texas, the same wireless SSID! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In San Marcos TX, two weeks ago, driving North LBJ.

  90. The FBI aren't mentioned anywhere in the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nowhere in the article does it say anything about the FBI or a wireless network.