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Google Acquires Zagat

quantr writes "Google has acquired Zagat, one of the most well-known names in restaurant reviews. Zagat is best known for its small guidebooks (the dead-tree sort) that offer reviews and recommendations on restaurants around the world. Terms of the deal weren't disclosed." Newly accepted submitter jkirch writes with a link to Google's announcement.

114 comments

  1. Goodbye Yelp by Foo2rama · · Score: 1

    Sorry Yelp,

    You had a good run but it appears that Google will be destroying you in the next year.

    Yours Truly,
    A future former yelp user

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    1. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same way Google destroyed the iPhone and Facebook?

    2. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And good riddance to bad rubbish.

    3. Re:Goodbye Yelp by asv108 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Trust me, Yelp is going nowhere. Zagat is a nice legacy brand, and there was a time when their ratings were good and relevant, but that time has passed. The biggest strength of Yelp is the community. People who review on Yelp are not going to switch to Google unless there is some compelling reason. As we've seen with the failure of Google Plus, its very hard to build community from nothing.

    4. Re:Goodbye Yelp by jdgeorge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. Yelp is no Apple (iPhone/iPod/iTunes; probably the best designed/marketed/developed products in 50 years. I detest the Apple approach, but I respect their success and understanding of their market).
      2. Google's first social network (Orkut) launched before Facebook, but Facebook's approach was more appealing to US consumers. But we don't yet know what's going to happen with Google+. However, Facebook is no Apple either.
      3. Zagat is focused on a narrower market than Yelp.

      Hopefully, Yelp will continue to develop. They have a lot of value as is. However, I wouldn't want Google to suddenly enhance one of the competitors in my space. It may be that this aquisition will actually help Yelp; we don't know what Google is planning yet.

    5. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Twitter!

    6. Re:Goodbye Yelp by alen · · Score: 2

      and yelp has been accused of extorting local businesses. i went to a restaurant on monday and most of the yelp reviews were so so to bad. i was surprised when i had some really good greek food.

      zagat is a much better brand than yelp and the whole crowd sourcing thing is a 50/50 crap shoot most of the time

    7. Re:Goodbye Yelp by asv108 · · Score: 1

      The "extortion" claims are way overblown. Yelp generally has very accurate reviews.

    8. Re:Goodbye Yelp by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      iTunes may be well marketed but all the errors I get with it point at something other than "well developed".

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    9. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget to twitter my yahoo until I google all over your facebook.

    10. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      iPhone/iPod/iTunes; probably the best designed/marketed/developed products in 50 years.

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, please, go on.
      Oh my god, you even put that piece of shit iTunes in there for an additional touch, man, you're good.

    11. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Slash.research_Kat · · Score: 1

      3. Zagat is focused on a narrower market than Yelp.

      not only that... zagat editors provide the service of compiling and sorting all the consumer reviews into tidy lists printed in a book. yelp is just a big mass of opinions per location with a few limited sort options to wade through the mess.

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    12. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Spunkee · · Score: 0

      iPhone/iPod/iTunes; probably the best designed/marketed/developed products in 50 years.

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, please, go on.
      Oh my god, you even put that piece of shit iTunes in there for an additional touch, man, you're good.

      But he has a low UID which means he has a HUGE slashdick and he posts at +3. He must be doing something right. I've altered my sig to dip into that reverse psychology shit that always works on the dumb fucktards that moderate here. I define my happiness by my karma score because I have no life.

    13. Re:Goodbye Yelp by stinkbomb · · Score: 1

      Ha ha ha!

      Wow, that's funny stuff right there! "Wisdom of the crowd", LOL!

      Wait, you're being serious?

      Uh...

    14. Re:Goodbye Yelp by stinkbomb · · Score: 1

      Ha ha ha!

      Even funnier! You should do some stand-up!

      Oops, are you being serious again? My bad.

    15. Re:Goodbye Yelp by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      3. Zagat is focused on a narrower market than Yelp.

      For now, anyway. I think it's reasonable to assume Zagat will become a standard app on Android and expand from there.

      Yelp could use some editors. Five years ago it was really helpful, today it's suffering from lower quality reviews.

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    16. Re:Goodbye Yelp by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      You know, kettle, we've got to stop meeting like this.

      Projectingly Yours,
      Pot

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    17. Re:Goodbye Yelp by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I think you misunderstand what "best designed/marketed/developed" meant.

      Specifically: it was NOT designed/marketed/developed for/at YOU.

    18. Re:Goodbye Yelp by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Every parent ever has been accused of being "totally mean" or "UNFAIR" by the children they're disciplining. Every cop in America who has ever arrested a person of a different race has been accused of racism. Every judge who has ever decided against someone has been accused of being biased.

      Has yelp ever been -caught- extorting anyone? Because otherwise, those accusations are just shitty restaurants whining.

    19. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 0

      Zagat,

      Now on boycott list.

      Yelp? Moved to my top, with Monocle.

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    20. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly... Design is also very subjective...

      Marketing, I will give. And I don't believe that "most" people truly think Apple's products are the best designed. A lot of people just don't know of anything else, so they don't have anything to compare it to (most people still think Windows is better designed than Mac OS, which I actually do disagree with as well).

    21. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Macrat · · Score: 2

      Every parent ever has been accused of being "totally mean" or "UNFAIR" by the children they're disciplining.

      Parents ask for an "advertising" payment in exchange for allowing good reviews to be posted?

    22. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Omestes · · Score: 1

      How did Google Plus fail? Sure, the hype died off, so the numbers dropped. But last I checked (quickly clicks a link); the community is still doing fine.

      Actually, when I was in Las Vegas over last weekend I posted a few things (with the location enabled), and managed to quickly grab around 2-4 followers a post, some of whom are actually rather interesting people. The same post (well, a link to the Google post, since Facebook has a completely arbitrary character limit, forcing conversations along the most inane and content free of lines) on Facebook got me absolutely nothing but a few "lol"s and a few useless likes.

      Hell, I've managed to get in conversations with strangers over the merits of IKEA, by flippantly posting something to Google.

      Sure, everyday I get twice as many nuggets of insight on my Facebook account as I do on my Google, but then again I only follow half as many people as well (since a lot of my friends are inexplicably loyal to Facebook).

      For an invitation only Beta that isn't feature complete yet, I'd say Google Plus is doing just fine.

      Also, Yelp is getting to be less than worthless. I was looking for reviews of a local crepe restaurant, and one of the top reviews was highly negative because the reviewer didn't like crepes. Not didn't like this restaurant's, but didn't like them at all. One of my favorite restaurants has been down voted only because it isn't owned by the same guy, even while the review admits the food is unchanged. I pretty much completely ignore Yelp now.

      Not that Zagat is at all relevant anymore either. Perhaps their going to plug it into the reviews that come up in Maps, those are generally worse than Yelps, even.

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    23. Re:Goodbye Yelp by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Zagat? But this tastes like anus!

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  2. Slashdot, coming to you 4 months in future! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Google shuts down their recently acquired restaurant reviews service"

    Well there you go folks, the claw of Google kills again.
    Who will be next!

    1. Re:Slashdot, coming to you 4 months in future! by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 1

      Embrace, extend, extinguish.

      The best learn from the best.

    2. Re:Slashdot, coming to you 4 months in future! by BLToday · · Score: 2

      You're suppose to extinguish the competition, not your own service and making the competition stronger.

  3. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cool

  4. In before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is evil and now everybody can see it!

    1. Re:In before... by bonch · · Score: 1

      People used to trash Microsoft relentlessly for constantly buying smaller companies in order to hurt competition.

  5. Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2

    I watch some of those "failing restaurant" shows: Kitchen Nightmares, Restaurant Impossible, etc.

    MANY of those places have Zagat stickers in the windows, often with good ratings. And yet their businesses are dying and the TV chefs think the food is awful. Customers are scarce, so there must be a reason. Some of the problems with food quality and cleanliness might be overstated for shock value, but it never looks like the TV chef has to try very hard to find problems.

    What's up with all of these Zagat-rated disaster restaurants? Does anyone on Slashdot know what's going on?

    1. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by Kenja · · Score: 3, Informative

      Being "Zagat rated" like the stickers say does not mean that you got a GOOD rating.

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    2. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lack of advertising and the recession. I know someone who works at one of these restaurants and he told me the reason they went on one of these shows is that they needed more customers.

    3. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      The whole point of the show is that the food is bad or the place is dirty. If this is not the case they invent drama. Customers are scarce because they chase them out if need be. They need drama so they create it if it is not there.

      Also being rated by Zagat does not mean you got a good rating. Even the worst rating they give would still mean they rated you.

    4. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is like a restaurant stating "Inspected by the Health Department".

    5. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by Taty'sEyes · · Score: 1

      I assume (and it's a complete assumption), that it is like a BBB rating. These A+ rated companies pay to keep it. In turn BBB gives a rating and drives business their way. BBB Rating = Scam.

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    6. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by dcavanaugh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A successful restaurant owner does not volunteer for these "makeover" shows. If you have customers, the last thing you want is a TV crew taking up space. If your place is packed, advertising won't help. Although many of the owners have claimed the show manufactured drama, a lot of what they show would hard to create just for the camera -- unless of course it was there already. How many restaurant owners are likely to admit the findings are accurate? In the cases where the TV chef sends in a cleaning crew to address years of unsanitary kitchen conditions, it's hard to believe they brought in years of grease buildup.

      I understand there are some restaurant owners who think their only problem is marketing, so free TV publicity is all they think they need. But I know of some great restaurants that are always packed. Their success is pretty much self-sustaining (even with zero advertising) as long as customer satisfaction is high. Sooner or later something happens to break the cycle and a downward spiral begins. Very rarely is a restaurant failing due to a sudden lack of advertising.

    7. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by dcavanaugh · · Score: 1

      That's the closest thing I have seen to a plausible answer. There are some sleazy companies that I know for a fact had a lengthy BBB rap sheet, and now they are mysteriously sanitized.

      I guess the concept of an owner promoting his business through bogus, self-congratulatory reviews is older than the Internet.

    8. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by darkshadow88 · · Score: 1

      If you haven't seen it already, this exposé on the BBB is worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo8kfV9kONw

    9. Re:Not highly confident in Zagat ratings by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think I'd even take the spotty Yelp ratings over Zagat nowadays, it's actually quite sad. I used to play with Zagat a bunch of years ago, and even maybe paid for their Blackberry app once, but it didn't really deliver the goods when we turned to it for our night out. My suspicion is that Google will simply add some of the Zagat editorial to some of the Yelp content, and maybe level out some of those 5-star crap chain listings that litter the listings of unique establishments, but I don't intend to pay the Zagat blurb much mind.

      In our area, we do have a really great alternative, the local Washingtonian. I wish more of these services could figure out how to emulate some of their features and quality, or if we could get something that consistently covers other metro areas.

  6. Tiger Uppercut! by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google must still defeat Shen Long to stand a chance.

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  7. Sweet! by GeorgeMonroy · · Score: 2

    Maybe one day the government will need to break up google also and then years later let it recombine!

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    1. Re:Sweet! by shoehornjob · · Score: 2

      Sorta like AT&T and cingular wireless. Yeah that'll work.

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    2. Re:Sweet! by GeorgeMonroy · · Score: 1

      That is exactly what i was talking about! You are right on point!

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    3. Re:Sweet! by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I love people who assume that just because google is a big corporation, they must be doing something wrong. Makes me feel like I'm not the flaming commie liberal that my midwest relatives seem to think I am.

    4. Re:Sweet! by tokul · · Score: 1

      Maybe one day the government will need to break up google also and then years later let it recombine!

      Years? Days is more likely. Cut off advertizing business and other parts will die in instant death.

  8. Food ID's by plsenjy · · Score: 1

    So, when this combines with my real Google ID I can't anonymously trash restaurants online anymore? So my food can be spat in when the manager recognizes me from my picture as "that guy that wrote the detailed review of how my restaurant sucks."

    I don't think it will work out too well.

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    1. Re:Food ID's by TheGatesofBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If the food was so horrible that you trashed the place in a review, why would you go back?

    2. Re:Food ID's by BLToday · · Score: 1

      Because you're friend's wife really likes the place for some reason. And you want to get with her cute sister so you try to spend as much time with them as possible.

    3. Re:Food ID's by plsenjy · · Score: 1

      Or, alternatively, using Google's real internet ID the manager has a very direct way to succinctly turn my trashing into constructive criticism by nipping the problem in the bud.

      Maybe it will work after all.

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    4. Re:Food ID's by MrHanky · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He didn't say the food was horrible, he just said he wanted to trash it anonymously online.

    5. Re:Food ID's by Desler · · Score: 1

      Bad reviews don't necessarily have to do with the quality of the food. The problems could be due to poor service, etc.

    6. Re:Food ID's by FooAtWFU · · Score: 0

      Not everyone lives in the Mission District of San Francisco with fancy, delicious places like Tartine or Delfina or Ritual Coffee on every block. Some of us out in the wastelands of suburbia have to deal with the same crappy few places (Starbucks, McDonald's) any time we want coffee out in the morning, or we have to drive 15 minutes out of our way.

      (Mind you, I'm not one of those people anymore. But.)

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    7. Re:Food ID's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read that as "because your wife really likes the place for some reason. And you want to get with her cute sister..."

  9. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can do a Google search on my Android phone and then find reviews to local restaurants from Zagat?

  10. Zagat jumped the shark a while ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure when, but I think we can agree that Zagat was long pas the shark when KFC started running ads that said Zagat had rated their chicken. Fast food? Really, Zagat?

    As for Yelp, they launched off the ramp when the whole bit about them shaking down merchants and/or astroturfing broke loose.

    1. Re:Zagat jumped the shark a while ago by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

      Actually, Zagat did a survey of people's fast food preferences. http://www.zagat.com/fastfood
      The survey was from a whopping 6,000 people where the requirement for a large chain had to have at least 5,000 locations.

      Good for KFC, bad for Zagat's credibility that most people read that to mean that Zagat rated their chicken the best. Rather is points out the crowd isn't always the smart thing to take your advice from.
      If you took popularity into account Bud Light would be the "best" beer.

  11. Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by Ptolemarch · · Score: 2

    The acquisition makes sense, in that they obviously want ratings of restaurants (and other places) on Maps, and they've already changed tactics there once or twice. This'll pretty much take care of that problem.

    I start to wonder, though, whether any acquisition by Google wouldn't "make sense". Their purchase of Motorola Mobility makes sense, too (though not to everyone). When you buy a consumer electronics company and a restaurant guide in consecutive months, what won't you buy? What acquisitions won't "make sense"?

    Google buys Pacific Gas and Electric for $20B. Makes sense...

    1. Re:Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a great idea, thank you for sharing it. I'll mention it to Eric while we're getting BJs on our jet.

      -Lt. Serg

    2. Re:Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

      A Pokemon joke? Sheesh, it's like everything old is new again. Next we'll be seeing links to Shiny Mudkips...

      -l

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    3. Re:Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by Spunkee · · Score: 0

      A Pokemon joke? Sheesh, it's like everything old is new again. Next we'll be seeing links to Shiny Mudkips...

      -l

      While watching Natalie Portman with hot grits down our pants.

    4. Re:Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      HTC just filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Apple using patents they bought from Google, which had just acquired the patents as part of the Motorola Mobility deal. That acquisition is thus paying dividends already. It also stopped MM from following through on its threat to sue Android manufacturers for patent infringement.

      If Google puts Zagat information on Maps, it would be a killer feature. It would instantly put Google above Yelp in terms of rating restaurants.

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    5. Re:Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      The acquisition makes sense, in that they obviously want ratings of restaurants (and other places) on Maps, and they've already changed tactics there once or twice. This'll pretty much take care of that problem.

      Yes, and no. Zagat's ratings are 'user-driven', and while not subject to the kind of spam online rating are, they have problems of their own. Restaurants off the trend line tend to not garner as high as rating as those that are on it. Restaurants tend to hang onto their ratings for longer than might be justified because they're local favorites and remain so even if quality slides. Etc... etc...

    6. Re:Makes sense, but then what wouldn't? by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      The patents that google sold/gave to HTC were purchased last year. The Google/Motorola deal hasn't yet been approved by shareholders or regulators. They are still separate companies.

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  12. Crappy Link by shoehornjob · · Score: 4, Informative

    It took too long. The WSJ has a better one here http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904836104576558600549181370.html/ that's not behind a paywall. It also takes a more insightful view of the deal and who might be affected by it.

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  13. Next weeks news: Zagat sues Frommer's by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    You heard it here first!

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    1. Re:Next weeks news: Zagat sues Frommer's by MrHanky · · Score: 2

      You're such a wanker, Kendall.

    2. Re:Next weeks news: Zagat sues Frommer's by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      That's Super to you sir.

      Coming from a user that has chosen a scatologically based UID it has very little impact on my thinking...

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    3. Re:Next weeks news: Zagat sues Frommer's by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      Of course not. Only Apple impacts your thinking.

  14. Crappier Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your link is broken by the / at the end.

    1. Re:Crappier Link by Evro · · Score: 1

      And removing the / shows that it's behind a paywall.

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  15. Navteq uses Zagat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Navteq, a map competitor of Google, (who provides the map tiles to Bing) uses Zagat. I'm sure they are not happy.

    http://www.nn4d.com/site/global/learn/product_catalog/poi/zagats_travel/p_zagats_travel.jsp

    1. Re:Navteq uses Zagat by city · · Score: 1

      Hmm, at least now i won't be surprised when I see Google shutting down Zagat services next year.

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  16. I stopped trusting Zagat for reviews... by leonbev · · Score: 2

    When they sold out, started "reviewing" chain fast food restaurants, and started giving "Best Of" awards to places like KFC and Burger King.

    I wonder how much the big fast food places paid off Zagat to get their stickers in almost every corporate owned fast food place out there?

    1. Re:I stopped trusting Zagat for reviews... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Well in Kansas City Red Lobster has a Zagots rating of great ... or so I was told.

      That is because people who vote there do not know any better or know about quality salt water sea food. They think fried is good and so is the atmosphere of family style.In Boston you would be caught dead seeing Red Lobster rated!

      I do agree that it can be manipulated. When I lived in NYC a decade ago I wanted the best Pizzeria in Manhatten. One of them had a great rating but it was TERRIBLE. Just a tiny dirty place that had a regular metal oven and canned pizza sauce etc. However tied to it was a place that invented pizza in 1906 and has a coal fired oven and is 4 generations old and running that is the best I ever had. About the same rating. It is my guess one had fake reviews while the other was genuine.

      Overall I had good luck with it but some people rate places like chains too high that drown out the rare gems. I still find it usefull and much better than Yelp.

  17. Just remember by rinoid · · Score: 2

    Unless you are buying ads from Google you are not a user to them, you are a product to them.

    YOU ARE THE PRODUCT!

    1. Re:Just remember by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the same goes for everything supported by advertisements. Slashdot, for instance.

    2. Re:Just remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nobody fucking cares.

    3. Re:Just remember by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Watch TV, including cable? Yup. You're the product. OMFG!!!!

    4. Re:Just remember by The+Gaytriot · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute, I am the product?!

      THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

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    5. Re:Just remember by danlip · · Score: 1

      I may be the product, but they still have to keep me happy or else I will take my business elsewhere, then they won't have me to sell to the advertisers and they loose that business. Just like TV has to make good shows or I won't watch it. In that way I am still a customer.

    6. Re:Just remember by need4mospd · · Score: 1

      Next you'll be telling us Soylent Green is made out of people...

    7. Re:Just remember by MrHanky · · Score: 2

      TV has to make good shows ... can't tell if serious.

    8. Re:Just remember by danlip · · Score: 1

      read the second part of the sentence ... I didn't say I watched

    9. Re:Just remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU ARE THE PRODUCT!

      Thanks for this valuable input, Chicken Little. Are there any other skies falling that we should know about?

    10. Re:Just remember by schlachter · · Score: 1

      it's people!

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    11. Re:Just remember by Intropy · · Score: 1

      product

      Pronunciation
      enPR: prd-kt, IPA: /prdkt/

      Noun
      1. A quantity obtained by multiplication of two or more numbers.
      2. A group of people who must be continually satisfied by your free service of else they will go be produced by someone else.

      It's okay fellas; his story checks out.

    12. Re:Just remember by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

      Its not that I am the product. Its that "I", specifically, am the product. That's the problem, whether or not people realize it.

    13. Re:Just remember by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      Welcome to advertising 101! Let's begin with the invention of the newspaper in 1605, where the invention of "people as a product" was invented four hundred years ago . Perhaps consider adding some commentary rather than some tired soundbyte from reddit please. Just because Rob left Slashdot doesn't mean we need to degenerate it in to yet another meme mirror.

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    14. Re:Just remember by rinoid · · Score: 1

      I don't believe this reedit thing was around when I joined /. -- pray tell troll?

  18. What a hoax! by hellfire · · Score: 1

    Sheng Long, like Zagat, is just a hoax.

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    1. Re:What a hoax! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sheng long" is an alternate reading of the kanji for "Shouryuken" - Ryu's rising dragon punch. It was never intended to refer to a character; you can blame that on EGM.

  19. Content provider or aggregator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What business is Google in? Indexing content or providing content? I feel they are really losing their focus by trying to be everything all at once.

    1. Re:Content provider or aggregator? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Google is in the same business as any other company offering "free" services: the business of selling advertisement space.

    2. Re:Content provider or aggregator? by mjtaylor24601 · · Score: 1

      What business is Google in?

      The advertising business. Or at least that's where they make all their money.

      Indexing content or providing content?

      Google's stated mission is to "organize the world‘s information and make it universally accessible and useful". So indexing existing content that's already available or finding information that isn't currently available and making it available could both plausibly fit.

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    3. Re:Content provider or aggregator? by darkshadow88 · · Score: 1

      What business is Google in? Indexing content or providing content?

      They are in the advertising business which is supported, to a great extent, by search. Indexing content and providing content are two complementary approaches to delivering quality search. Recently, we've seen much more federated search on Google--in other words, combining results from different resources. For instance, a search for Apple will give you results from the web index mixed in with results from image search and product search.

      An example where one of the elements is content that Google provides rather than indexes is Maps. Sure, Google could index web pages that have maps on them (and they do), but the user experience is far superior when the search engine can just provide the content you want without the need to perform extra clicks

      The researchers and engineers are concerned primarily with making the user experience as satisfying as possible, and providing relevant content is part of that. If the users are happy, they'll keep coming back, thereby generating ad impressions and making money for Google.

  20. google+, google places, google maps, latitude by drolli · · Score: 1

    If google now starts to throw local competence buy buying local companies into that scheme, then it gets scary.

  21. Google Restaurant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google Restaurant?
    "Mini-Pizzas and delish desserts make this Italian eatery a must! Ravioli? Holy Cannoli!"
    -give me cancer now.

  22. A limited field trial by tepples · · Score: 1

    Google Plus is still in a limited field trial, just as Facebook was for its first two and a half years.

  23. 2013's headline: Google to shut down Zagat by PostScience · · Score: 2

    Google is like the rich kid with too many toys.

    How long before Google shuts down Zagat? This can be nothing but a drop in the bucket of their global strategy. Why bother?

    As a stockholder, I'd be ticked about their endless wasteful acquisitions and distractions.

  24. What's the point? by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    I suspect that what they're hoping to accomplish with this acquisition if what they were going for when they offered to buy Groupon. And that is local targeted advertising.

    But I can't help but wonder, what's the point? You mean to tell me Google couldn't build a system internally and promote it under whatever brand they create?

    Google has spent untold millions for three things: a website they'll almost certain rebuild, print publications they will now have to manage, and and established brand. It's a given that the site will eventually be tied back into the Google ecosystem. They didn't need Zagat to accomplish this. The print publication is probably the least profitable part of the business, but probably also the main thing that has sustained them thus far. On the other hand, it's what's established the brand and a lot of people are likely to be upset if they were to kill it.

    So you're left with the brand. From everything I've seen Zagat enjoys a better reputation than a lot of competitors. It helps that they've kept themselves in the news with their ratings and other articles. But again, it ties back to the publication. I don't know if Google has the sophistication or experience or desire to evolve and innovate the print side of the business. If their fixation is targeted advertising I don't envision them investing much effort in getting anything else right. And the thing is that without that part of the business what's left to distinguish Zagat? You've basically killed the one thing that gave Zagat its value.

    They might have gotten a deal on Zagat given that they were eager to sell. But considering the money Google must have spent why not invest internally building and marketing a similar platform? Is it more or do American corporations in particular have a fetish with buying and selling companies?

    1. Re:What's the point? by MimeticLie · · Score: 1

      I think it's less about advertising and more about integrating reviews into Maps/Android.

  25. GO google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its a great news for all the Google lovers. More Power to Google - http://goo.gl/0hMfV

  26. I Didn't Know McDonalds Was That Good by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2

    Well this explains McDonalds' and Burger King's new top ten rating in Zagat. Or do you think it might have to do with how much money they pay Google for Advertising?

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  27. Zagat Rated +1 by __aadhrk6380 · · Score: 1

    You know it is gonna happen.

  28. As plain as the noose on your face! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they loose that business

    Wrong, wrong, WRONG! It's not "loose".... it's "loosen."

    They loosen that business.

    I agree with you though, I like business to be nice and tight.... er, that is what you meant, right? (^_^)

  29. Change Their Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's time to change their name from Google to Gobble.

  30. "Tasty Indian Food" at Google's HQ, say employees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which is "fitting, because the place is crawling with H1Bs". Some complain Google's famous 20 percent employee free time is "a sales pitch" and "more a concept than reality" but others talk up "lots of exciting technology and technologists" within the walls. Others worry that "paid placement is dominating" the company's search business, but the competition (Microsoft) "is too big and slow to capitalize".

    Ratings:
    Food - 23
    Decor - 12
    Service - 19
    Value - 28

  31. Fuck Yelp by crhylove · · Score: 1

    I had over 70 reviews on there, mostly positive. This one place totally ripped me off. They censored my fair and honest negative review, then they deleted my account, and all 70 of my reviews. Many of the reviews were for undiscovered and locally owned gems that needed the exposure.

    Fuck Yelp. Censoring Nazi Puss Bags.

    Oh, for the record, the business was "San Elijo Dance and Music Academy". They STILL owe me $300, and the owners Ben and Laurie-Michelle are total charlatans, phonies, and liars. I really cannot say enough bad about the place.

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  32. Why Zagat? by adcm · · Score: 1

    Clearly they're looking for restaurants to find the best way to cook an apple.

  33. Better than elves. Re:Just remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may be people, but what about Keebler or girl scout cookies?

  34. Microsoft shop by RonVNX · · Score: 1

    Zagat's former CTO was quite a Microsoft enthusiast. Wonder what Google's going to do with that pile of stuff.