Woz Is First In Line For iPhone 4S
An anonymous reader writes "Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak is already camped out in front of an Apple store for the new iPhone 4S. From the article: 'Woz and his trusty Segway showed up at his local Apple store in Los Gatos Thursday and said he will stay there overnight. He added he already has two phones coming to his house, but doesn't mind hanging out for one more for his wife.'"
No wonder those phones are sold out.
You would think that since he was now the head of Apple he wouldn't have to wait in line.
(T/O)
I wonder if he just stops there and lets it keep itself balanced all night.
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he wanted to wait in line
I believe it's called the 4S.
...how the mighty have fallen
Good thing he doesn't mind camping out. He's going to have a longer wait than expected when he finds out that they only have the iPhone 4S and that the 4GS (if it even exists) will not be available until some indeterminate time in the future.
I call it the Jedi phone. Use the 4S, Luke!
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
iPhone 4S, not iPhone 4GS
So who is first in line for Woz's now obsolete iPhone? I bet that's worth more than a new iPhone...
Fail on submitter and editor. Considering the amount of press Apple gets, at least get the name of the silly thing right.
4S not 4GS
Wow, Apple has a new phone model called iPhone 4GS? Even I also wanted to queue up for it!
Stealth Falcon
It's great to see as time marches on, that Woz remains so true to his roots & initial interests.
As a side note, I removed 2 cycles from his SWEET16 interpreter when I ported it to the C64, without affecting functionality. That was an amazing little moment in my life, and felt as a great accomplishment given the body of work. :-)
The real question is: Does he jailbreak it?
...how the mighty have fallen
He has not fallen. He is a supremely talented engineer and never imagined himself qualified to be an executive. His aspirations were quite different from Jobs. When Woz had a boatload of money he decided to go give back to the community and teach at a public school for a while. He still occasionally gets involved in a startup but it is usually in some engineering or scientific capacity not some kind of executive or management capacity.
Way to show support. Here is an awesome dude, the kind you hope for at your next party.
I can't trust purchase advice from somebody who owns a segway.
He was the co-founder of an American company that currently employs 49,000 people and actually designs and makes stuff. Don't confuse him with money-churning banking leeches.
If he pays me in $2 bills.
15 years ago, I would have understood this behavior. Don't get me wrong, having a still more powerful, well-designed communications/computing appliance that can fit in the palm of your hand is something to get excited about, but Woz could design his own and buy more than 500 of them if he wanted to. This sort of technology has reached a level of elegance where it hides all of its internal functionality and loses a lot of its novelty. Four+ generations on, freaking out over a nifty cell phone is kind of like getting obsessed over colored aluminum foil.
I can't imagine there's a single Apple "first-in-liner" that wouldn't let Woz cut to the front of the line if he showed up at the last minute.
"Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
Hey, somebody needs to pay 50% of the taxes in this country. :P
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So he has 2 phones being delivered to his home, but he wants a 3rd one for his wife?
Is the second phone for his lover? His wifes lover? A pet? All of the above?
Left out one rather significant part... "He was the co-founder of Apple Computer, that currently employs..."
And yet still be able to afford THREE **NEW** iPhones.. Yeah, I feel *NO* pity for the 1%ers who pay 50% of the taxes when they have 90% of the wealth, Meanwhile, people like myself and my family live hand-to-mouth, and hope we have enough money to pay the rent and car insurance next month.
You can close your eyes to reality but not to memories.
can apple have for one of it's founders that they won't slide him a $300 gadget????
Well good for him
Paul: Father... father, the sleeper has awakened! - Dune
What on earth makes you think he paid for them? He co-founded the company... as if he doesn't get any Apple product he wants for free.
Woz was also first in line to design an Apple computer. That's still one of the coolest things anyone has ever done. The snarky commenters here ought to contemplate this Zen riddle: "What did the bald man say about his comb?" (A: "I'll never part with it.") If Woz wants to hang out with other Apple fans and show his enthusiasm, why paint it as anything but a guy trying to have some fun? I wonder what question Woz will ask Siri on his first try.
He is no Steve....Oh wait.
Gary Whitta has pics up on G+, as he is in the same line with Woz: https://plus.google.com/114522811866073303399/posts
If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and pays taxes like a duck, then it's pretty certain to taste JUST like a duck.
It's not a matter of choice. You can idolize the Woz all you want, but don't kid yourself: he's not one of us.
...actually designs and makes stuff...
"Designed in California", built by dirt cheap labor in China. Big fraking difference there.
Remember the last time Woz said something slightly skeptical in public about a modern Apple product, Steve smacked him down good and hard. Woz isn't gonna make that mistake again!
[Dead, schmead; it could be a trick!]
We live, as we dream -- alone....
I'm guessing he has recovered from this: http://applenewsdaily.posterous.com/apple-cofounder-steve-wozniak-cried-at-mike-d
...honestly, he doesn't have something more interesting to do with his time?
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Seriously, is /. so hurting for articles that this is news? Former Owner of a company and still good friend off senior engineering staff lines up to buy new product. Where is the story there? Seriously. I know this will be modded into the abyss for (1) saying anything bad about Apple, (2) for saying anything bad about /. (3) saying anything about Apple after we have no Jobs... Well, in the spiritual way, not economic... oh.. yeah... that.. well nevermind...
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
The story should read Hacker falls from grace as that would mean that a former hacker has tipped his hat, and decided to follow the path of take what you are given and (except for the jailbreak) Do exactly as you are told. Why is every comment holding this as momentus? I only see that he has given in to the corporate rule. If he was still as spirited as I remember, he'd be plugging away on Android right about now.
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
Well, hey, the moment the majority of Americans decide to quit buying stuff that's made in China, Apple will set up factories in the US.
But I don't see that happening any time soon, as most people prefer low cost above all else. Blame consumers, not Apple.
That guy stole my wife's seat at a talk at Maker Faire this year, and then tried to steal the second one that she moved to. That's the short version of an awkward and weird story. I bet he stole that dude's seat in the photos.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/wozniak-voice-recognition-computings-next-frontier-389
I remembered hearing about voice control on the next iPhone months ago. I guess he had some inside info.
As is so plainly evidenced by his eagerness to sit in line overnight with other iphone-geeking gadget-happy wonks. He could get another phone delivered, and he's hanging out all night.
<sarc> Yeah, the dude has so-oo completely forgotten what it is to be a nerd. </sarc>
My recollection is a bit fuzzy, its been decades since doing 6502 assembly on Apple IIs and C64s, but didn't 65C02 add a txy (transfer x and y registers) and possibly a few other opcodes? I'm not sure if 6510 was derived from 6502 or 65C02. If the later then C64 programmers had some opcodes Woz did not. Legal opcodes I should add.
... Apple - succeed Jobs as the board chairman?
Incidentally, anybody know whether he continued to use Macs all these years?
... MBAs dream of being CEO ...
I got to call you on that one. An MBA is an add-on, it is not a core area of study. MBA students enter a program with various degrees, some may be business and accounting but others are scientific and engineering. I was one of the later, BS and MS in CS. I'd say about a third of my class came from scientific and engineering backgrounds. The MBA is an accountant meme is an urban myth. In my MBA program when 5 to 6 person groups (persistent, for group projects in core classes) were assigned they were careful to make sure each team had someone with an account background, teams tended to have only 1 or 2.
An MBA does not make you an expert in a field like an MS/MA may in another area of study. An MBA is more of a survey. You study all aspects of a business so that you can see the bigger picture and so that you may more effectively communicate with others outside your particular area of expertise.
Many MBAs would be thrilled to be CTO. Some geeks want to start their own company and look to an MBA to give them a broader perspective, understanding only the tech can be a recipe for disaster. How many late 70s tech startups failed because they had two Wozs and no Jobs, someone has to know how to sell things. Some of these geeks are wisely being a bit defensive, especially at small companies and/or startups. The mythical notion of being a tech guy pairing up with a business guy and each keeping to his own area is another recipe for disaster. Personally I suggest that the tech guy learn enough about business and accounting so that he can understand what the other guy is doing. I've seen friends get royally screwed by trying to focus only on the tech side. The IRS does not recognize any such division of responsibility, if you are one of the partners you are financially responsible for what all the other partners do.
Wow, lots of unexpected harsh comments regarding Woz here.
Woz is just a nice guy. He likes to talk to people, especially when they share similar interests (Apple products in this case). This is the same guy who was so into computers that he regularly attended the Homebrew Computer Club, and sought out people who knew things he didn't (like about the phone system). It's also the same guy who works with young people to get them interested in programming and computers. He's a people person, even if he can seemingly be a bit shy sometimes.
So why do people have to insert some kind of agenda into the guy's actions? He makes like $400 a month from Apple to not do anything, so he isn't exactly working for their marketing department. Whether his appearance makes a 30-second spot on the local evening news (which going by the media's interest in Woz compared to Jobs, maybe not), and if he's lucky sells a few more iPhones in his town to fans who were probably on the fence about buying it anyway, doesn't benefit him personally. And Woz standing in a line simply isn't going to generate any significant sales nationally either to make any noticeable impact on Apple's bottom line. Especially when you consider that the average Apple fan these days quite frankly (and sadly) may have no idea who the guy is.
Jobs wasn't a very nice person. Not only do I understand peoples' dislike of the guy, I share it. But I honestly can just never understand any strong negative feelings about Woz. I personally have no interest in Apple or their products these days, but Woz is still a role model to someone like myself who's interested in programming and electronics. And I love to hear about his pranks, since I've been known to pull one here or there as well. People can blow Steve Jobs up into a visionary or Jesus or whatever other nonsense and I'll still never respect the guy. But Woz will always have my respect.
Seriously, how many respectable role models are even left out there anymore, especially for young people?
What a 1%er.
More like 0.00001%er, based on his accomplishments.
If he's getting one for his wife at the store, that means the first two are for him.
My guess: 1 to use, 1 to take apart.
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What on earth makes you think he paid for them? He co-founded the company... as if he doesn't get any Apple product he wants for free.
Consider the hassle involved with arranging for free product vs. making a credit card purchase, where in the time it takes to complete the online order he'll have made more in interest on his wealth than is spent on the order.
I wouldn't bother.
My God, it's Full of Source!
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Unless that "hassle" is simply someone from Apple calling him up and asking if he wants one. Or in this case two.
Umm... Woz is a nerd... but yes... geeks would attempt to gain status in their geekdom by allowing someone of such nerdom to cut in line.
Remember that nerds are people that actually know things... modern day computer geeks are generally people who try to pass themselves off as nerds... of course, many nerds prefer to pass themselves off as normal people, a feat that is generally unreachable for geeks.
It's a phone. People are camping out for a fucking phone.
Stuff like this is what makes Woz tick. He's a bit of an extroverted geek that loves to play. Read up on some of the stories on the original Apple and Apple II. The stuff the man did with chips and coding was nothing short of genius.
He went out into the iPad lines and did magic tricks. Why? Because he could.
Steve Jobs was driven by perfection of design. Features would not be implemented 95%, it had to be perfect. Woz is driven by fun. He loves practical jokes, he loves being creative. I can't describe him other than he is just Woz.
What he does with his life is my envy and should probably be the envy of almost every slashdotter out there. Imagine if you had enough money to just camp out before Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/Apache/[Random FOSS Project]/Microsoft/Apple made a new release. Or could just.... do what ever the hell you wanted. He could sit at home, in his mansion and own everything Apple ever released but he doesn't.
>[M]ost people prefer low cost above all else. Blame consumers, not Apple.
That's a very convenient way for the rich and powerful to view the world. Blame the little guy who really is in charge while the billionaires and multinational megacorps are merely humbly doing our bidding. It's not like there is lobbying or advertising to pervert the system of consumerist power...
Some of my favourite people are from th US; Vonnegut, Chomsky, Bill Hicks.
Steve Wozniak is proving two things today. 1. He's a regular guy
Yes, nothing proves you're a regular guy more than turning up on your Segway...
Gotta love the Woz.
Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
The article ends by calling Woz "the creator of the Macintosh" - he isn't, he's the creator of the Apple computer. The Mac was Jobs's baby.
Is that an old video? He says its Friday the 29th of June? I feel like I saw this video when the Iphone 4 came out.
don't kid yourself: he's not one of us
Maybe not, but he hasn't let any of his success change him. Anyone else with Woz's money / connections / whatever would just walk in the front door at 1 Infinite Loop, go directly to Tim Cook's office, and say "Hey Timmy, the two 4S's that I've had for weeks from your R&D department are pretty awesome, so I was hoping I could get another crate of them to hand out to my family when they meet me at the steps of my Gulfstream-V next week."
Even without founding Apple, he'd still be right there in line for the next highly anticipated gadget.
I'm think that his wife was expecting a white one and he ordered 2 black ones. "Don't worry honey, I'll get you a white one." "You better."
Stupid Cheap Guitars
Apple *used* to make all their stuff in a factory they built in California, which was a model of automation at the time. However, everyone started bitching about how expensive Apple stuff was compared to the competition, branded it the "Apple Tax", and then derided anyone who dared to purchase something with an Apple logo on it.
You reap what you sew.
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Of course, that only means that he has good character.
Who cares if you're first in line? That is incredibly sad behaviour. From anyone.
Haven't you got a life to live instead of being first in line?
Modded insightful for blindly following the "banks are evil!" bandwagon?
But no, you are right. We don't need banks and financial services. They don't provide any valuable services. Just do away with them, then see if you are better off without them.
Did he cut the line this year like he did back in 2007?
http://fury.com/2007/09/woz-took-cuts/
Geek derives from the term it originally defined which was a circus freak which had no particular talent but defined themselves as a freak by biting the heads of live chickens in front of an audience.
... well antagonize without a audience, the geeks or nerds are almost always outnumbered and most likely outgunned during times of conflict. When geeks and nerds gather in groups, they are less likely targets for physical violence from others and therefore are in a much better and positive situation.
In a more modern sense, a geek is a person who does something unusual in order to associate themselves with a particular group. Sociologically, it's a means of either separating themselves intentionally or more commonly to find strength in numbers.
Nerds on the other hand are generally a group of people with a very high aptitude in one thing or another generally academically related. Nerds tend to look funny during their youth as they focus far less on physical appearance and focus far more on their intellectual ambitions. A nerd doesn't try to look like a nerd, it's generally associated with a lack of interest in their person appearance and therefore the nerd simply lets his mother dress him. My son is a nerd, but he doesn't dress like one even though he takes no interest in his appearance. This is because his mother (unlike his father) is not a nerd and would never let her child look like his mother dressed him.
Upon reaching puberty nerds will start attempting to mate as any person will, but it may take time before they are able to start dressing and behaving as a typical member of society. This is often due to their limited personal financial resources which is generally ruined further by their prioritization of "toys" as opposed to clothing. So they'll do the best they can to use the clothing mommy buys them in the least unfashionable way, though sadly there is only so much you can do with those clothes. The mothers of these children also tend to be a great deal more protective of their children than other mothers and therefore will fight harder to avoid losing their right to dress them. That is why nerds often aren't able to do anything about their appearance until gaining a certain level of financial self-dependence. They will instead during their adolescence attempt to pick up a fashionable hobby... either trying out sports at school, learning to play guitar, or smoking cigarettes or large quantities of marijuana etc. A nerd generally is person with a high aptitude and often highly capable in cerebral topics. In fact, nerds are entirely unable to be identified reliably based on physical appearance.
A geek on the other hand is a person has no specific talent to define themselves with. They are general among the average in most everything they do. They lack muscular physiques and are self conscious about their visual appearance. In general they aren't even outcasts as they lack anything in particular to be cast out of. Unlike the nerds who are generally confident in their personal abilities in a given subject, they also are often self-conscious about how their intellect is perceived. As a result, they attempt to identify themselves as nerds by appearing similar to a adolescent nerd to allow them to establish relationships with one another to form friendships and also for the sake of self preservation.
Let's be frank, nerds and geeks generally have a rough time in school and this isn't likely to change any time soon. While nerds often are physically capable of defending themselves, they would prefer not to as it's illogical that it should be necessary. Geeks (not necessarily the fat ones) are generally unable to physically defend themselves in a one-on-one fight as the antagonizers don't tend to
So, as opposed to biting heads off of live chickens in order to be a member of a group (in that case circus performers), a modern geek chooses the group they will most likely be able to fit in with. The added fact that nerds are generally far more accepting of friends no m