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Ask Slashdot: What To Do With Old Webcams?

An anonymous reader writes "I work as an IT administrator at a school. We have just upgraded our entire webcam inventory (about 45 webcams, model Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX) and have all the old ones sitting around. I would like to know what a neat project would be to make use of all the old ones. I was figuring there would be an open project somewhere that involved mass amounts of webcams."

258 comments

  1. Porn of course... by Aryden · · Score: 0

    duh

    1. Re:Porn of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He's a school IT admin. Are you sure that's even legal to suggest?

    2. Re:Porn of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it's legal to suggest you fucktard. Freedom of mother fucking speech.

    3. Re:Porn of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a school IT admin. Are you sure that's even legal to suggest?

      Why would it be illegal to suggest someone film themselves jerking off regardless of what their job is? IANAL but I'd be surprised if its illegal to suggest the same thing to a minor. Also why assume that the commenter even resides in a country with such laws?

    4. Re:Porn of course... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I'm a school IT tech, and... well, schools are perpetually terrified of sex. Things that to most people would be just a minor embarassment to most are career-enders to anyone who works in a school. If any photos came to light of me in porn, no school would ever hire me again.

    5. Re:Porn of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would it be illegal? What law is broken by suggesting that a school IT admin jerk off on a webcam?

    6. Re:Porn of course... by Desler · · Score: 1

      Great but that doesn't make it "illegal to suggest". Yes you might get fired, but no one is breaking the by stating the suggestion.

    7. Re:Porn of course... by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      Parent you all are responding to is a fucktard, there is no valid argument here to warrant responses. All of you got TROLLED.

    8. Re:Porn of course... by arkane1234 · · Score: 0

      Sure it's legal to suggest.
      Just like it's legal to suggest you rape and kill your mother.

      Apologies if that's already happened to your mother.

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    9. Re:Porn of course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First Amendment says yes.

    10. Re:Porn of course... by niittyniemi · · Score: 2
      1. Enroll 45 of the sexiest babes at school.
      2. Give each a webcam to setup at home.
      3. Setup web porn gateway hosted on Ubuntu Hairy Hardon (rock solid!) connected to the 45 babes.
      4. ...
      5. Profit!

      .

      I feel sure you will not go to prison*.

      *(Could be wrong)

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    11. Re:Porn of course... by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      1. Enroll 45 of the sexiest babes at school.

      2. Give each a webcam to setup at home.

      3. Setup web porn gateway hosted on Ubuntu Hairy Hardon (rock solid!) connected to the 45 babes.

      4. ...

      5. Profit!

      .

      I feel sure you will not go to prison*.

      *(Could be wrong)

      I do remember recent-ish ./ article about a school district doing this. Psh, some PARENTS found out about it, then blah blah blaaaahhhh, privacy, blah blah, rights, blah blah, invasion, blaaaaahhhhhh..

      Buzz kill.

      :->

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  2. Get permission first by Selanit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're not yours; they belong to the district. Get permission first. I'm sure your school district has policies about disposing of old surplus equipment (if nobody else in the district wants them). Disposing of district equipment WITHOUT permission is just asking for trouble.

    1. Re:Get permission first by jv+lee · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nerd alert.

    2. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, at what point in the question did he say that he was taking the cameras?

    3. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure your school district has policies about disposing of old surplus equipment

      I've never seen a school or non-tech company that had a coherent policy on anything pertaining to IT or computer hardware.

    4. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, at what point in the question did he say that he was taking the cameras?

      So are you suggesting that he occupy his work time doing crazy projects using the school's equipment that have absolutely nothing to do with his job?

      He should most definitely make one of his higher-ups aware of whatever it is he intends to do with the webcams. That way, if a teacher shows up in 6 months with an idea for a class project that involves using 15 or 20 webcams, they'll at least know where they are. And quite honestly, a class project should ALWAYS take priority over a tech's personal project.

    5. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes Most do, It's called let them rot in the closet until the Silicon decomposes or destroy them in a shredder. 99% of all school districts are ran by idiots that dont understand donating the ear to a student project or selling it to recoup money is the smart path.

    6. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prick! More like avoiding getting fired or sent to jail for theft warning.

    7. Re:Get permission first by Synerg1y · · Score: 1, Funny

      Eh... as an admin he is probably responsible for the inventory, I sure as hell wouldn't ask if I didn't have to (which I don't :P ). Move up a bit in career and repost :)

    8. Re:Get permission first by EdIII · · Score: 1

      He never said, or even implied, they would be taken off school property.

      I have had plenty of old unused equipment that is surplus. Plenty of times I have used them in my own little projects at work to try out an idea or something cool. If companies are willing to pay for you to take classes outside of work to increase your skill sets, why would they object to you using equipment not currently allocated to anything to do the same?

      At this moment I have a test VM server on my desk from an used system. Using it to test out different images and appliances.

      I believe that is what he asking for. What idea do you have to use 45 web cameras? I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I am curious.

    9. Re:Get permission first by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

      Very true. I worked at a tech support gig once where company policy was that even after an employee was verified by their SS number, all we could do was unlock their account - if they needed a password reset, their manager had to also be verified and approve them having their password reset. Stupidest policy ever.

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    10. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He never said, or even implied, they would be taken off school property.

      Shower cams?

    11. Re:Get permission first by tqk · · Score: 0

      He said nothing about a personal project, idiot! For all we know, he's looking around for something he can get the kids involved with, like a school project!

      Go learn to f-ing read!

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    12. Re:Get permission first by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...if they needed a password reset, their manager had to also be verified and approve them having their password reset. Stupidest policy ever.

      Where I work, as soon as we (IT) even hears a rumor that an employee has been canned, we change the password on their account; we don't delete the account until the employee's manager gives us the okay. In an environment like that, having a manager request the password reset makes complete sense, because the last thing you want is a newly fired employee calling you to reset his password so he can sabotage and/or steal confidential data.

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    13. Re:Get permission first by EdIII · · Score: 1

      That's a great idea. If part of your bucket list is being some guy's prison wife.

      I knew a kid in real life that pulled it off. Was with me in Military school... wonder why?

      Never tried him as an adult, but he got in plenty of trouble and his parents were sued... by hundreds of families.

      Set up the system to record the girls locker room and had an IR remote to turn it off and on to save on VHS tape (this was quite some time ago). Used an editing rig to create a "best of" collection and sold it for thousands of dollars during the last 3 days of school. Some kids sister caught her brother "watching" the tape.

      It got ugly. Really ugly. Very ugly.

    14. Re:Get permission first by Garridan · · Score: 1

      School... project? Are you sure that's a thing? Doesn't sound like it would help with standardized tests, so I'm pretty sure there's no budget for it.

    15. Re:Get permission first by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

      Except that at this company as soon as the manager decides to fire them (before the employee has even been notified that they've been canned), their account is disabled by HR and the service desk does not have the ability to enable those accounts.

      It's a huge waste of company resources to keep harassing a manager every time some idiot forgets their password over the weekend.

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    16. Re:Get permission first by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Except that at this company as soon as the manager decides to fire them (before the employee has even been notified that they've been canned), their account is disabled by HR and the service desk does not have the ability to enable those accounts.

      In which case, yeah, I agree -- that's a pretty stupid policy.

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    17. Re:Get permission first by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      Then maybe the managers should fix the problem with their subordinates huh?

    18. Re:Get permission first by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      ...if they needed a password reset, their manager had to also be verified and approve them having their password reset. Stupidest policy ever.

      Where I work, as soon as we (IT) even hears a rumor that an employee has been canned, we change the password on their account; we don't delete the account until the employee's manager gives us the okay. In an environment like that, having a manager request the password reset makes complete sense, because the last thing you want is a newly fired employee calling you to reset his password so he can sabotage and/or steal confidential data.

      I work hard to identify colleagues with this sort of attitude in the work place because I know they're only looking out for themselves, they don't have anyone else's back, can't be trusted and should be ostracised. Basically, what you are saying is, they are not working to process and applying their own value system, i.e. their prejudices, to the powers they have been entrusted with in an Information Technology department.

      If a colleague in my team demonstrated that behavior I would be wary for finger pointing behavior. I'd observe them when the pressure is on and systems are down, they usually keep a safe distance from the action. People with this attitude cannot be relied on to defend their colleagues and I've often found that by defending the very same accused colleague, assisting management to look to mitigating circumstances and the mistake, the behavior is exposed. Usually the team sees them as they are. If the entire team behaves that way then there are deeper issues I'd consider seeking employment elsewhere.

      It's a teams responsibility to work to process, not respond to rumors. If process doesn't react fast enough to an employee being fired, then the problem is with process. If a former employee causes damage to a former employer, then it becomes a question of proof and liability.

      Not only is the behavior you described unethical, it's unprofessional and one of the reasons IT becomes a soul destroying place to work.

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    19. Re:Get permission first by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      I'm sure he could find a way to make them work for a club or two.

    20. Re:Get permission first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He wasn't asking that

    21. Re:Get permission first by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      set up the system to record the girls locker room

      Pics or it didn't happen.

      Really, if it did, copies would have survived and be on the web forever after.

    22. Re:Get permission first by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      They're not yours; they belong to the district. Get permission first. I'm sure your school district has policies about disposing of old surplus equipment (if nobody else in the district wants them).

      If he wants them, he will surely get them. When I worked for Yuba College I just talked to the people running the surplus sale and they set everything I wanted aside for me.

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    23. Re:Get permission first by GerryHattrick · · Score: 1

      My school in the '60s, we had a 'Wireless Club' out of hours. Just anything interesting, dead or alive, came into our shack. Some we'd mend, some we'd repurpose, some we'd strip for spares or just to see 'what's inside'. Doesn't everyone do this now? Or does 'elfin safety' make it impossible? Sure, my VCR97 drew blood when the string broke, don't ask me where it came from.

  3. Multi-touch cabinet by Deathnerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Take out the ir filter, put in a visible light filter and use them for IR based multi-touch surfaces. A little expensive, but a neat project!

    1. Re:Multi-touch cabinet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a great idea. I wonder where my own webcams are...

    2. Re:Multi-touch cabinet by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

      I did a project a while back for a course using something similar.
      After removing the IR filter and replacing it with a visible light filter (you can just use a piece of fully exposed photographic film) I used some filed down IR LEDs (filed down to distribute the light more evenly in all directions) and used a graphical programming app called vvvv to do blob detection on the LEDs (I believe the blob detection plugin itself is open source).
      After you have the locations of the LEDS you can estimate locations in 3D space, maybe do something with gestures and the like.

    3. Re:Multi-touch cabinet by X86Daddy · · Score: 1

      Not expensive! Visit your local theater supply store and buy 1 sheet each of Congo Blue and Medium Red lighting gels... the sheets are like 10"x20" and you cut little squares less than 1/4", stack the two together, and you have an IR pass filter (filters out visible light, just allowing infrared through)

    4. Re:Multi-touch cabinet by justforgetme · · Score: 1

      why oh why, did I have to skip 300 porn/autoeroticism related comments to get to the first sane one?

      Thank you Parent!

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    5. Re:Multi-touch cabinet by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      It's kind of frightening that in the context of a school, people's first reaction was shower-cams...

    6. Re:Multi-touch cabinet by DontLickJesus · · Score: 1

      I've built these, and as a school project it can be done relatively cheap. A cardboard barrel, a transparent top surface, and a white sheet along with the camera were enough to make a touchpad.

      Here's more info:

      http://sethsandler.com/multitouch/mtmini/

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  4. Turn the eye on the master by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Start a civil liberties project. Build small UAVs, place the cameras on them and track how your local law enforcement is violating the constitution. Mission accomplished.

    1. Re:Turn the eye on the master by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Actually, minus the "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" overtones, that would make a cool project, if you have an interested electronics, woodworking, physics, and/or shop instructor. Approach such an instructor (or instructors -- get them all on board!) and pitch the idea, offer the use of surplus equipment. I know I was always far more interested in classes where teachers went the extra mile to present a practical application (preferably as a class project) than in classes where teachers left the material abstract.

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  5. is the edu.xxx domain taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i assume you have a big pipe coming into the campus, locker rooms & pay-per-view site... PROFIT!

    1. Re:is the edu.xxx domain taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assume he is an adult, which means when he gets caught it will be for producing child pornography according to the law. Not a great idea to be filming high school girls in the locker rooms.

      If it is a college/university, he can still get into trouble because none of the women were willing or knowledgeable participants.

      Now, if is is a university... and a bunch of girls agreed to it in writing.... then he could make some pretty good money till he got caught and then sued by the university. Of course, if it is good enough money he could just leave for Brazil and retire.

  6. Make one of these... by derkeyaj · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Make one of these... by Ironchew · · Score: 1

      Better yet, hook them all up to a big helium balloon.

    2. Re:Make one of these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      .. with a laptop and wireless, or just a really long USB cable?

    3. Re:Make one of these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yup, this was almost perfection in action - coincidence wise.

  7. First Result by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in google search: http://www.raphnet.net/divers/webcam/webcam_en.php

  8. Throwable 45 camera panoramic ball? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/10/14/1840224/throwable-36-camera-ball-takes-spherical-panoramas

  9. Yo by koan · · Score: 1, Interesting
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    1. Re:Yo by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Beware, end sequence of the clip reads: "Patent pending".

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    2. Re:Yo by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Beware, end sequence of the clip reads: "Patent pending".

      He probably would not be selling the device... so I don't see what the patent holder would be coming after him for.

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    3. Re:Yo by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Well, patent law says that you cannot even use something that someone has patented without their permission.

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    4. Re:Yo by koan · · Score: 1

      What is there to patent? If you can patent a sphere with 36 cameras then patent law is absurd, it's hard for me to think of anything more generic than a sphere with a few cameras attached.

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    5. Re:Yo by c0lo · · Score: 2

      What is there to patent? If you can patent a sphere with 36 cameras then patent law is absurd, it's hard for me to think of anything more generic than a sphere with a few cameras attached.

      I hope that your last 30-40 years of sleep have been good.

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    6. Re:Yo by Nikker · · Score: 1

      Ahhh true but his will have 45 webcams! Ain't patents grand?

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    7. Re:Yo by Khyber · · Score: 1

      File a different design patent using more cameras than stated and maybe a few more things added to really differentiate it. Problem solved.

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    8. Re:Yo by mmcuh · · Score: 1

      It does not. Patents cover for-profit uses only, unlike copyright and trademarks.

    9. Re:Yo by drawfour · · Score: 1
      You are mistaken. Patents cover even the USE of an item. Wikipedia has a nice article on patents. Under Law...Effects, this sums it up quite nicely:

      ... a patent provides the right to exclude others[14] from making, using, selling, offering for sale, or importing the patented invention for the term of the patent...

    10. Re:Yo by mmcuh · · Score: 1

      Yes, for-profit USES.

    11. Re:Yo by drawfour · · Score: 1
      Again, incorrect. "For profit" or "commercial" is never mentioned in the law. It is "use", straight-forward. That means home users can be sued to prevent the USE of a patented invention. See here:

      It is a right to stop others from making, using or selling - any one of these. Thus, even if an infringer were to make the invention in a foreign country, he could not sell it in the USA. Similarly, it is still an infringement if the invention is made in this country but exported immediately, or if a person buys the invention overseas and uses it in the USA for their own use - there is no "personal use" exception for patent infringement.

      And see here:

      There is no equivalent law for patents to the U.S. fair use clause which applies to copyright. Other countries have a patent law with similar applications, but there is no provision that allows a general exemption from liability when using a patent without obtaining a license from the patent holder.

  10. Set up a security system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zoneminder!

  11. Re:chat roullete by heptapod · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT INFORMATIVE

  12. Mount 36 of them in a ball by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mount 36 of them in a ball, and then throw them up in the air!

    1. Re:Mount 36 of them in a ball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just be sure to make the USB cables really, really long.

    2. Re:Mount 36 of them in a ball by InterGuru · · Score: 1

      Someone just did exactly that.

      "Jonas Pfeil, a student from the Technical University of Berlin, has created a rugged, grapefruit-sized ball that has 36 fixed-focus, 2-megapixel digital camera sensors built in

    3. Re:Mount 36 of them in a ball by bre_dnd · · Score: 1

      woooosh.

    4. Re:Mount 36 of them in a ball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like this?
      http://jonaspfeil.de/ballcamera

  13. Spherical panoramas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Your question was answered 3 entries ago.

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/10/14/1840224/throwable-36-camera-ball-takes-spherical-panoramas

    For the remaining 9, you're on your own.

    1. Re:Spherical panoramas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your question was answered 3 entries ago.

      Prefect, since your answer was given three times already.

    2. Re:Spherical panoramas by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      Prefect

      Ford? Don't panic!

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  14. Bullet time! by Voxxel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Get some USB hubs and make your own bullet-time setup.

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    1. Re:Bullet time! by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

      But how do you sync the image capture of all the cameras?

    2. Re:Bullet time! by makapuf · · Score: 1

      Clap your hands. Align in movie editor software.

    3. Re:Bullet time! by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

      Bullet time requires sync within millisecond or less. 60FPS video is one frame per 16.66ms. Also, if you want to slow things down by say 10x, you'd need frames shot 1.6ms apart. Since "Align in movie editor software" supposes 16.6ms time between frames at best, it won't work. Also, if you want to freeze the action and spin the camera around the subject, you need simultaneous images capture from all cameras, probably to within 1ms.

  15. Point them to the stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Mount them all on some base and point them to a certain point at the sky. Get the base to rotate accordingly so that they are all fixated at that point and keep taking pictures. Try and see how much of a detailed image you can end up with when combining all of the taken pictures. ddg.gg around for more.

    1. Re:Point them to the stars by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Superresolution. Doable, with the setup you describe... but 36 cheap cameras probably wouldn't do so well as just one slightly more expensive camera.

    2. Re:Point them to the stars by Guspaz · · Score: 2

      That was my first thought too, but the resolution just isn't there. These are VGA cameras, 640x480. All told, we're only talking about ~14 total megapixels, and that's only if you positioned each camera so that they didn't overlap and stitched the image together. The fixed focal length would make that impossible, though, you'd only really be able to do superresolution on 45 very similar images, which would probably net you one or two megapixels of effective resolution. In the end, even a hundred dollar point and shoot would do better.

  16. Alas, the Matrix bullet time ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is trademarked and patented.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_time :(

  17. Three Words by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    Big
    Ass
    Touchscreen

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  18. Overlooked option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donate them to the federal government so they can spy on you more

  19. 45 Webcams?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And there are approximately 45 female bathroom stalls in your school.....coincidence? I think you know what to do.

    1. Re:45 Webcams?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats already where the new ones are going to be placed.

  20. Throwable 45-Camera Ball Takes Spherical Panoramas by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    Top that German project a few articles ago.

    Hmmm . . . let's take a retrospective on the /. stories on German technology this week . . . a government spyware Trojan . . . wireless controlled bicycle brakes . . . and the throwable panorama ball. Put that all together . . . and you get . . . ?

    I'm not sure yet, but we should keep a sharp eye on this tech coming out of Germany. They are definitely up to something.

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  21. Re:Install them in the toilet booths by shmeeps · · Score: 2

    The balls to say it anonymously :roll eyes:

  22. Bullet time rig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know that thing out of the matrix where all the frames are taken simultaneously but dispersed along the path you want the viewpoint to take when the frames are played sequentially as a video. Maybe bolt onto a frame, or stick around the inside of a room with velcro.

    1. Re:Bullet time rig. by EdIII · · Score: 1

      You know that thing out of the matrix where all the frames are taken simultaneously but dispersed along the path you want the viewpoint to take when the frames are played sequentially as a video. Maybe bolt onto a frame, or stick around the inside of a room with velcro.

      Actually, I was remembering that kid on YouTube a bunch of years back that took a video of him showing his "mad skills" with a light saber.

      That would have been even more awesome in bullet time.

  23. True RNG by Dr_Harm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Cheap CCD + Rad source from smoke detector == true RNG. If nothing else, some of the advanced physics or math classes in the district might be interested in the project.

    1. Re:True RNG by EdIII · · Score: 1

      Can you tell me what the hell you are talking about? It sounds really cool, but I don't know what search terms to put into Google to start researching it :)

    2. Re:True RNG by cffrost · · Score: 1

      Can you tell me what the hell you are talking about? It sounds really cool, but I don't know what search terms to put into Google to start researching it :)

      Try "americium" and "webcam."

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    3. Re:True RNG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually what I think you mean is CCD OR rad source. You can get a true RNG from placing a CCD in a compleatly sealed dark box.

      Even in complete darkness the CCD will still generate noise, this noise is random and can used as an entropy source for a true RNG. No rad source needed.

    4. Re:True RNG by allo · · Score: 1

      A good idea, but not really useful. If you do it how you normally would do it, you mostly record the noise from the sensor and the events creating white pixels are rather rare. So you will NOT get useful random numbers, if you really depend on them you will need to find another solution.

    5. Re:True RNG by GNious · · Score: 1

      Couldn't you just take a few byte-values from the webcam's output? Place it in the school-yard, and colour/light input should be relatively random.

    6. Re:True RNG by mmcuh · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't just pointing the webcams at the sky and do md5sums of the frames also be a true RNG, but without the radiation?

    7. Re:True RNG by mark_reh · · Score: 1

      A single avalanche biased zener diode junction will produce all the random noise ever needed. See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1338337/pdf/jeabehav00162-0045.pdf

      Much simpler than messing with CCDs and radioactive materials.

    8. Re:True RNG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Can you tell me what the hell you are talking about? It sounds really cool, but I don't know what search terms to put into Google to start researching it :)"
      Or check here: http://slashdot.org/story/06/08/13/1311238/diy-random-number-generator

    9. Re:True RNG by Zinho · · Score: 1

      As Okian Warrior already mentioned, breaking open your smoke detector for its americium is a bad idea (even if it did make Slashdot). According to the LavaRnd project the camera itself produces enough entropy data (static) to function as a cryptographically strong RNG seed. Do it the easy way and don't get arrested. Oh, it's open source, too; so if you're interested you can examine the code and use it for further instruction to your students.

      Good luck!

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  24. Bullet Time for a Videography class by ericski · · Score: 2

    If you have a video class in the district, figure out a way for the students to use them for doing some matrix-style bullet time videos. Or if there is an electronics class, let the students tear them apart to see what they could do with them.

  25. Real suggestions by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Webcams can be used for all sorts of data acquisition purposes, if you have some spare computers.

    For instance, take a plastic egg-carton and grow 12 plants using different media (ex - a range of PH across the bays). Use a webcam to monitor the plants, and count the green pixels day-by-day to measure the relative growth rates.

    Make a brush pile on school grounds and bury the web cam *within* the pile. Take an image 1/sec, and also monitor temperature. Throw out images which are the same as previous images. Use the data to watch how critters survive within brush piles, and how much insulation being in a brush pile affords.

    Train a camera on the sky and take pictures over time. Count the white/blue ratio to monitor cloudiness/overcast.

    1. Re:Real suggestions by Nationless · · Score: 2

      I'm sure school administration will approve to finding hidden cameras in bushes around the playground...

    2. Re:Real suggestions by roman_mir · · Score: 0

      I suggest mounting them on White House, Senate, Congress and Supreme Court officials as well as Federal reserve and all other department members, connect them to youtube and have some payback.

  26. Astronomy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=astronomy+with+webcams&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

  27. Why Do You Have Them In The First Place? by Kneo24 · · Score: 1

    Why do you have them in the first place? Is there some educational need for the school to have them, or they being used for security purposes throughout the school?

    1. Re:Why Do You Have Them In The First Place? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you have them in the first place? Is there some educational need for the school to have them, or they being used for security purposes throughout the school?

      Don't you read the news?

      These cameras are used to spy on the kids to make sure they are using the computer equipment "properly."

    2. Re:Why Do You Have Them In The First Place? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it is telling that the school (which is no doubt "under-funded") is replacing webcams, apparently perfectly serviceable.

    3. Re:Why Do You Have Them In The First Place? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly, wonderful management... Also speaks volumes of people's attitudes that the summary doesn't answer this question. "Who gives a fuck? Now let's build a pyramid of them... or arrange a throwing contest!"

  28. Telephoto by rcw-home · · Score: 1

    Take the lens off the front and bolt the sensor to a used SLR camera lens. With the 10x or 15x crop factor, that old 50mm SLR lens will turn into a 500-750mm equivalent, and if you use a prime lens, it'll have even better low-light performance than the original wide angle lens. If you put it on a telescope, you can easily get into 5000mm+ territory, although it'll be very difficult to use without an expensive tripod and tracking system.

    1. Re:Telephoto by pruss · · Score: 2

      Actually, for solar system objects you don't need any fancy tracking with a telescope, just avi stacking software, like Avi Stack. You let the object move across the field of view as you film, and the software does the rest.

      You can also put the webcam sensor in place of the eyepiece in a microscope.

  29. Bullet Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make your own bullet time capture device. Everything is better in bullet time.

  30. matrix by Leandera · · Score: 1

    can't you let the students recreate how they filmed the 3d "run around" scenes from the matrix? Would make for an interesting project... (this is what i mean http://theunhens.blogspot.com/2011/05/bullettime.html . In dutch, but the pictures should make clear what I mean)

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  31. Re:Install them in the toilet booths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And don't give me that weird look, 'coz I know all of you had the same thought. Don't criticize me for having the balls to say it.

    Believe it or not, I'm not interested in watching anybody take a shit. Then again, given the voyeuristic nature of CCTV in our cities I suspose it's only a matter of time before such oddball pathologies are normalized^w government policy.

  32. Depth Perception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://xkcd.com/941/ -- This. would also be educational!

  33. More suggestions by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    Find a birds nest somewhere on school grounds in the spring, mount a camera and put the live images up on the net. Allow students to watch as the eggs hatch and the chicks are reared.

    This gets really *really* interesting if you can do this for a raptor nest, such as a hawk.

    Web cams are generally sensitive to IR, so if you can cobble up an IR light source you can take images at night. Are there places on the grounds where critters come out at night (foxes, owls, skunks)? There's open source software to detect and automatically record movement from video feeds.

    Come up with some interesting investigations that would interest the students.

    Any old wells or pipes that stick up out of the ground? Can you lower a camera into one of these to see where it goes?

    1. Re:More suggestions by ckthorp · · Score: 1

      On the IR theme, many webcams have an IR blocking filter than can be removed to greatly increase IR sensitivity. You even have extras to practice on!

    2. Re:More suggestions by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      This gets really *really* interesting if you can do this for a raptor nest,

      I'm sure!

      such as a hawk.

      Ah, I see we weren't thinking along the same lines at all. Never mind...

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    3. Re:More suggestions by martin-boundary · · Score: 2

      It was obvious he was talking about a hawk. For a nest of 'raptors, he'd need 3 cameras - one for the chick in front, and two for the chicks on the side ;-)

    4. Re:More suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Find a birds nest somewhere on school grounds in the spring, mount a camera and put the live images up on the net. Allow students to watch as the eggs hatch and the chicks are reared.

      This gets really *really* interesting if you can do this for a raptor nest, such as a hawk.

      That's not the kind of "chicks" that school IT admins record.

    5. Re:More suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better is to watch other lifeforms than birds, in one class put the cameras in the ceiling pointing each one to a table and with a multimonitor setup you have a very good anticheat system.

    6. Re:More suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the worst joke I have heard in a long time. I can't stop facepalming. Kudos.

  34. Bullet time? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    I remember the old Matrix documentary where they did the Bullet-Time effect by setting up something like the number of cameras you have in an arc and having them all take a picture of the focal point simultaneously. I think they then played the images back in sequence.

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    1. Re:Bullet time? by Phaeilo · · Score: 1

      Looks like you need a bit more than 45 cameras, http://drnorth.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/m1_bullet-time01.jpg but I guess you don't have to do a full circle...

    2. Re:Bullet time? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      If you take all the pictures simultaneously, then the subject will be stationary (ie frozen in a pose). If you take them sequentially, then you still get the fly around, but the subject can move as well.

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    3. Re:Bullet time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could take video on all of them.

  35. Re:schoolgirl locker room webcam project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes! Teen girls who are unfortunate enough to not have a webcam are a worthy cause.

  36. XKCD or IR by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 1

    Suggestion one: if your school has a football field, try implementing something like XKCD suggests. Who knows, maybe the kids will learn some perspective.

    Suggestion two: convert them to near-infrared imaging, and let the physics teachers and the art club go nuts with them.

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  37. This maybe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://xkcd.com/941/

  38. Reprojection study by CityZen · · Score: 1

    Set up a room with the cameras all around, all pointing toward the middle. Record from all cameras at once (this is perhaps the tricky part). Then you should be able to reproject the recorded data to create a virtual camera anywhere in the room, showing any angle. Think Photosynth, but with video.

    Recording multiple streams simultaneously is difficult, since one USB host will only be able to handle a few cameras recording at a time (as few as 2 if the video is uncompressed). You can put multiple USB cards into a PC and push the bottleneck a bit further down. But ultimately this probably requires multiple coordinated PCs, which the poster may not have available.

  39. Re:chat roullete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    amateur cheerleader porn would be better

  40. Locker room "security" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Duh.

    (I kid, I kid)

  41. Re:chat roullete by EdIII · · Score: 1

    Yeah... buts let's face it. If it is going to be truly informative we all have to admit that the average Slashdotter would only benefit from 1-3 of those camera angles maximum anyways.

  42. art project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    artsy types dig things they were too hip to use when that stuff was functional and had any value

  43. Light field camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Build your own light field camera that can refocus images after the fact!

  44. use as door gifts by rrossman2 · · Score: 1

    Use them at door gifts if you setup at any job fairs for local colleges etc. That's what a lot of departments at Penn state do

  45. Camera Array for fast imaging or Lightfield Camera by cowtamer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Build a camera array similar to what Stanford has done (see http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/array/ ) for fast imaging, or building a camera array to refocus images after the fact (see http://lightfield.stanford.edu/ ).

    Otherwise, you could do your own "bullet-time" live spin-around imaging system by placing them around a circular room.

  46. gigacam by pz · · Score: 1

    This requires lots of work---

    1. design a mount so that all 45 of the cameras can be pointed in exactly the same direction in a fixed array, say, 9 x 5, with exactly the same distance between each.

    2. design a means to trigger and capture images simultaneously from all 45 cameras.

    3. design a means to stitch together all 45 images that takes advantage of overlapping areas to increase resolution

    So does this one ----

    1. lay the 45 cameras out in a line, all pointing in the same direction, slightly upward

    2. arrange a way to capture images from all of them simultaneously

    3. write software to present any pair of these two to the user, who wears special heads-up stereo goggles and, therefore, has an adjustable depth perspective on the scene

    4. make a new version of the same thing where the cameras are all in a (big) circle pointing inward

    This one requires much less engineering work ---

    1. Donate them to a worthy cause, like a school in a 3rd world country. Or, sell them on eBay and donate the proceeds instead.

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  47. Science by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 1

    I can think of several things to do. These would make great starters for science fair projects or in-class studies. You could hook one up to a microscope, or telescope. There are several projects on the web about making spectrophotometers. Use them for time-lapse studies of plants or young animals (frog's eggs developing). Use them for motion studies/kinematics. Have you asked the students for creative ideas? I bet there are several art projects that could use them.

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  48. Classroom security (especially @ night)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free software exists for that also in:

    1.) Yawcam .0.3.6 -> http://www.yawcam.com/

    2.) Dorgem 2.1 -> http://dorgem.sourceforge.net/download.html

    3.) Active WebCam 11.6 -> http://download.cnet.com/Active-WebCam/3000-2348_4-10064509.html

    APK

    P.S.=> There's possibly BETTER ideas on this page, but this application for classroom/school securities' the one that comes to mind since you have 45 extra cameras around, & if classrooms have PC's? Then you have security systems in those classes essentially ( &, @ any time, NOT just night or when the school closes etc./et al)... apk

  49. Think about the children by santorummurotnas · · Score: 1

    Companies have programs that donate surplus working equipment to schools and needy families. So before you claim all those webcams for a project, why don't you see if you can actually donate them for a worthy cause. Just because you have a ton of webcams doesn't mean you should do something wacky like this: http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/array/

  50. Re:Install them in the toilet booths by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

    Good point. Mount them in the girls locker room instead.

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  51. 3d scanner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use them to make a 3d scanner, a guy I went to college did it with two cameras and a couple laser pointers. With a bunch of cameras you could get some pretty accurate 3d models

    1. Re:3d scanner by symbolset · · Score: 2

      I was going to suggest something like this, or "bullet time". Since those are taken, maybe arrange them in a ball looking out, and get the students to writing image stitching software. Then they could mount it on a cart and get some cool panographs.

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  52. Computer Webcams... by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

    Not sure what you can do with a computer webcam, there's webcam feeds like...

    http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=465446

    Or if your one of "those" people

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifelog

    There's a ton of projects along those lines, webcams don't do much otherwise besides serve their initial purpose.

    Donations are another option, so is the trash.

    Try the boys and girls club or something along the lines of charity, I've gone this path before for getting rid of old IT equipment.

  53. Why reading the article is useful... by Artifakt · · Score: 1

    (Yes, I know this is Slashdot).
    The cameras in question are USB 2.0 based devices, so that defines what's practical here by the USB standard. For example, if the project is worth about $29 US per camera, then cameras can each be located about 100-150 feet away from a PC, using CAT 5 based extensions to USB. If you can't raise about that much money for the project, it's out - for example mounting cameras near raptor's nests that may be 50-80 feet off the ground is probably only going to be feasible even with free student labor if there's at least that $29 additional per camera available. Figure you might get extensions a bit cheaper in bulk, but you might also need some things like silicon caulk to waterproof connectors, and I don't see it getting much cheaper. Whether risk approval issues would block such uses or not, this financial issue has to be considered in any location.
          By themselves, limited range means largely indoor use in classrooms or a public setting. Maybe a sociology or history course could use them to record public interviews. Right now, many communities would like to record interviews with older people who were there since the town was built, or remember what it was like before the interstate came through or the old mill burned down or whatever. Interviewing Vietnam, Korean or even WW2 veterans is still needed some places.

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  54. Who are the webcams originally for ? by spiltmilkmaniac · · Score: 1

    Ask the students what they think should be done with them (in an educational context)

  55. Don't publicise this by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    For the record, this is illegal.

    The NRC considers this a "grievous offense" (their words), and people have been raided and had all their playthings confiscated for playing around with smoke detector emitters.

    So... don't tell anyone if you do this.

    1. Re:Don't publicise this by jawtheshark · · Score: 2

      Interestingly, my first reaction also was RNG on the question. Mainly because slashdot featured it as a story a few years ago. Obviously, once that happens, the instructions are out there. I always wanted to try it. Smoke detectors are easy to get, webcams are easy to get... I see no problems.

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    2. Re:Don't publicise this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can just order some uranium ore online instead. They have varying grades that are safe enough to handle. (Can be used for testing of detectors and whatnot for all kinds of science procedures.)

    3. Re:Don't publicise this by pla · · Score: 1

      So I can legally buy and use 10x hotter "mineral samples" for the same purpose, but I can't take apart a smoke detector?

      I don't doubt you, just more proof of the stupidity of governments in general.

  56. Girl's Locker Room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a no-brainer

  57. As always slashdot to the rescue... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 0
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  58. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robotics?

  59. Staff perving at 9-year-old girls in locker room?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mount them in the girls locker room instead.

    I like how several people made similar comments, but no-one seems to have twigged that rather than a horny teenage boy engaged in er... harmless jinks to see his female classmates naked (a) this guy is an adult member of staff, which would up the creepiness factor of the suggestion in itself and (b) he never said anywhere what age group his school covers. It could be a damn primary school for all we know.

    OTOH, if this did occur to you when you commented, all I can say is... you sick, *sick* bunch of fucks. :-/

  60. Robot Soccer by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    No Joke, set up an after hours program or maybe a during the day program to have teams of students use the cameras to do image capture and detection. Then have the kids build platform and put on a robot soccer match, this was something that happened at my college a few year ago, it was fun.

  61. Robot projects... by Cyclloid · · Score: 1

    I remember Make Magazine having a project using: usb web cam + iRobot programmable base + router + usb hub.

    If the router & web cam are controllable via the specified open source software.

    Though this would obviously require funding.

  62. Re:Install them in the toilet booths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been reading and commenting on /. since 2002, but I still see no point in registering an account.

  63. Obvious answer by Inda · · Score: 0

    Stick it up your arse.

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  64. Read another story by Bert64 · · Score: 0
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  65. Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD" by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD"

    Radioactivity has a tendency to kick electrons around. If a particularly strong particle hits the CCD array, it will be registered on whichever pixel cell it hit. You can see this as a pixel going "white" for a brief moment on the video stream.

    Put an alpha source next to a CCD array (which is otherwise light-tight) and you will get random white-pixel flashes. These are truly random, not the result of a PRNG.

    1. Re:Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True randomness is a mathematical construct and does not exist in reality (as with many other useful mathematical constructs).

      For something to be truly random it must be free from influencing factors and initial conditions. Since nothing in *this* universe is free from these factors, nothing can be said to be truly random.

      What most people cite as 'random' is actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory in action.

      Highly unpredictable, yes. For all intents and purposes random? Maybe, but I'm a compulsive pedant so the answer is still no.

    2. Re:Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're a mathematical construct

    3. Re:Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD" by bky1701 · · Score: 1

      "For something to be truly random it must be free from influencing factors and initial conditions. Since nothing in *this* universe is free from these factors, nothing can be said to be truly random."

      For the most part, quantum-level action is random. Positions of electrons in atoms are the big one, which is probabilistically random (and true randomness can come from that if used carefully).

    4. Re:Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note: If you actually try this, don't touch the alpha source directly with your hand.

    5. Re:Try "Geiger Counter" and "CCD" by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      Mod Parent Funny! Had me laughing out loud spontaneously.

  66. Budget Hockney? by InsertCleverUsername · · Score: 1

    Hmmm... If you're artistic, how about a budget version of David Hockney's latest experimentation.

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  67. Why do you need them? by 0xG · · Score: 1

    I was going to suggest pointing them at the local cop shop or *IAA office, but then...
    WTF?
    I can't imagine a less appropriate place to "monitor" people than a school, of all places. IMO. Sounds like a real bunch of Nazis.

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  68. A Neutrino Detector by NReitzel · · Score: 2

    Put them around 5 gallons of dry cleaning solvent, and make a Cerenkov neutrino detector.

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    1. Re:A Neutrino Detector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

  69. Perhaps Start your own gerbil reality TV Show by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 1

    Put the little cameras all over a little house and watch the Drama unfold!

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  70. Contest by jadin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Contest:

    Have all the students submit ideas, then let them vote on which project to do.

    I'm guessing 50 school kids can come up with some pretty unique ideas.

    1. Re:Contest by jampola · · Score: 1

      Don't underestimate the kids... usually their distance from technical limitations yields some pretty outrageous idea's!

    2. Re:Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like!

    3. Re:Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, and then you can throw out the 25 that include "in the girls bathroom" as part of the project idea.

    4. Re:Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the rest are funny, this is a good idea!

    5. Re:Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      better ideas than millions of /. geeks?! :)

    6. Re:Contest by ignavus · · Score: 1

      Contest:

      Have all the students submit ideas, then let them vote on which project to do.

      I'm guessing 50 school kids can come up with some pretty unique ideas.

      But what if the idea they vote for is to submit the problem to an online tech forum ... um, like Slashdot?

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  71. Roverbot by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Have the students use them to build a robotic rover. These will hook up to a Basic Stamp or a Raspberry Pi. Add a few motors, and voila!

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  72. Build a bird house by Aku+Head · · Score: 1

    You don't have to find a nest. Build a house for something common to your area such as house wrens. That way, you can put the camera right outside, near the computer in waterproof housing.

  73. some ideas... by ThorGod · · Score: 1

    1.) set up cameras in this year's halloween haunted house (assuming your school does that). Get some of the kids to splice recordings from Oct 31 into a montage of "funny memories".

    2.) Make "observation boxes" for who ever can come up with a reason to use them. Figure 5-6 cameras a box, with decent lighting. It might be useful for some biology/chemistry experiments...or just an ant farm.

    3.) Place cameras up outside near where the kids are picked up/dropped off. Basically, when ever a kid leaves the campus you've got it on camera (for safety, not so much for catching kids ditching class/smoking).

    4.) If you're somewhere that gets a lot of snow, put up some streams of places on campus that kids frequent. Encourage them to view the cams from home before leaving so they know what the weather looks like. (Limited use, but it'll look nice on the school's web page.)

    5.) Set 'em up on portable posts that can be placed on/near students desks. Once per year per class (randomly chosen), record every student taking a test and look for cheaters.

    6.) Do the above, but for bullying. (Yeah, it's pretty "big brother"-ish, but if it's only once a year/month per class, it's not that big a deal.)

    7.) Devise some kind of game that uses those cameras somehow. Maybe some functional version of chess?

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  74. Nest Cam by xaoslaad · · Score: 1

    How about you get with one of the science teachers and whoever else is necessary to set up a nesting box for a falcon or eagle or something on the roof of the school or elsewhere appropriate.

    Set it up so that there are a couple webcams with external views, and maybe even one peaking into the box so if you get lucky the students can see it roosting.

    My university (UMass Lowell) did this recently with and it was pretty cool to see the Peregrine Falcons up close.

  75. First thing that comes to mind is... by Jeremi · · Score: 1

    Put all of them up on some old shelving, and serve cake.

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    1. Re:First thing that comes to mind is... by kamiza · · Score: 1

      The old shelving is a good idea, but the cake is a lie

  76. Re:chat roullete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kind of piggy backing on this idea,

    Get in contact with the drama department (assuming you have one) and see if they want your help in making a bullet time setup.

    Same for the science department. Capture an event from 45 different angles or in a bullet time slow motion effect.

    Do USB controllers have a max number of devices?

  77. Oh that's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I put them in the ladies room.

  78. Old... web cams? by Corson · · Score: 1

    But do those old webcams work on Windows 7? Cause my XP webcams don't.

  79. Document cameras by BenVis · · Score: 1

    Build some document cameras for your teachers. Get some goosenecks with sturdy bases and mount the cameras on them pointing down. Put together software that can mirror the image (some scripts + vlc will work). If any of your teachers regularly use a computer to project e.g. documents or slide shows, this can supplement what they are already doing. It's easier and tidier than a transparency, but more intuitive, familiar, and interactive than a slide show. It brings the added bonus of producing a paper archive of what was projected.

    You can get some more information here: bootleg elmo

    I realize this suggestion is maybe not in line with the idea of using a bunch of cameras for one project, but if your teachers don't already have something like this, they will love you for it.

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  80. Re:Re:chat roullete by spazdor · · Score: 1

    MOD PARENT REDUNDANT

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  81. Let the kids decide. by patjhal · · Score: 1

    The most useful thing that could be done with any tech equipment at a school, would be for a club of students to come up with projects to do with it and implement it themselves.

  82. Re:chat roullete by spazdor · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT REDUNDANT

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  83. Simulate an alien being with many eyes by whizbang77045 · · Score: 1

    Simulate an alien being with many eyes!

  84. Re:chat roullete by jrmcferren · · Score: 2

    Please turn in your geek card at the door. USB has a maximum of 127 devices including hubs per controller. Each computer has multiple controllers anymore.

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  85. Re:chat roullete by KreAture · · Score: 2

    The theoretical limit is 127 devices, but hubs count as devices.
    There is also a limit of 5 levels. That basically limits you to 5 hubs stacked.

    Your biggest concern will be bandwidth and power though. That many devices on a port will need powered hubs and you will definately not get any realtime performance out of it. If the system has multiple controllers it is better to spread the cams around on the avaliable ports and use as few hubs as possible. A driver allowing more than one camera is also neded.

    It sounds like a fun project though, and I'd go for it if I had a tonn of cams.

  86. Jokes are the only answer by FyberOptic · · Score: 1

    Apply cameras generously to vehicle with duct tape. Then you have Google Street View, circa 2004.

  87. Old web cams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Send them to college girls.

  88. Crowd source your security to parents at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crowd source your security to parents at work.

  89. Retro films! by I'm+Not+There+(1956) · · Score: 1

    Record retro-looking films with them! Retro pictures and videos are the trend now.

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    "If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing."
  90. Motion detecting security system by click170 · · Score: 1

    Use the linux program called 'motion' to make your own motion-detecting video-recording security system.

    I had a spare webcam and ended up using it as a motion-detecting video doorbell voicemail hehe.

  91. What would I do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would point them at interesting points of the premises and have them take a snapshot every 5 minutes. I would then stream that data online. It is an easy way to find out where the action is.

    A camera pointed at the various group workspaces and you can get a quick overview of where there is space. With cameras on the parking lot you've got a certain level of crowd sourced security and again you can see if there is space. If any science classes are doing projects that require a long time to mature you can use the camera to get a time lapse of the event. Or you could do 45 angles of your penis for chat roulette. That works too.

    The snapshot every 5 minutes thing is to keep it from being too creepy and resource heavy.

  92. Re:Staff perving at 9-year-old girls in locker roo by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

    And the fact that he's on the staff means that he wouldn't want to see teen girls naked? Now if it's elementary school, then sure - that's a problem. If it's high school, then why would it be wrong to be attracted to them?

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  93. into outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would be neat to do just as you said, but with their own little embedded computer and wifi meshnet, to send them
    to the moon to orbit.

    Might get enough old technology orbitting the moon that it gets it's own visible Ring.

  94. a school? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have permission from the owner, look what the students could do with them in infromatics classes.

  95. Re:Install them in the toilet booths by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

    He was talking to the other AC.

  96. Re:chat roullete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    circletimessquare, is that you?

  97. UFO spotting system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Point them at the sky, make the data (historical and real-time) publicly available on a web site, and challenge people to develop their own algorithms to find anomalies.

  98. Start a business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Set up each webcam in a small sectioned off area and hire women to work as cam whores and take a cut of the profit.

  99. Student Recording Stations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am teacher and trying out a comprehensive video documentation of each students basic knowledge of Physics topics. If you could hook them up to some recording device that can be started and stopped by a phone call, Students can call in a recording session to a certain camera/location and begin an explanation of a homework problem, a diagram or a lab setup. This could serve as a portfolio of work for each student..

  100. Send them to me by matt_martin · · Score: 1

    Send them to me, I'll figure something out.

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  101. Re:Camera Array for fast imaging or Lightfield Cam by ka9dgx · · Score: 1

    When I saw the camera array focus through the bushes behind their subject... I was hooked. However I didn't have the budget, so I started experimenting with 1 camera and many shots from a small area... if you have stationary subjects, you can do the refocusing with a single camera and a lot of time....

    Here are some photos of Chicago in synthetic focus as an example.

    I would love to be able to build a portable 64 camera array.

  102. Re:chat roullete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I spend 100% of my moderation points down-modding comments whining about other people's moderation. With the other 100% I ponder binary. And with the last 100% I go after grammar nazis.

  103. Ok... by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

    Donate them to a school? Put them on an RC car? There are endless hobbyist uses for them. I did read an article on the net somewhere about turning a Logitech brand cam into a ultraviolet camera. Was pretty cool. Google it. You could also just throw them out or eBay them.

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    Chewbacon
    The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
  104. Augmented Reality / OpenCourseWare by kamiza · · Score: 1

    Project 1: Do some AR projects. Can use OpenCV, http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/. Lots of project ideas out there. Project 2: Put up a camera in each class and record the class to have 'OpenCourseWare' - see MIT. Of course a lot of permission to get, but would help in multiple ways. If students miss a day of class, they can catch up. Good way to evaluate teachers, or they can watch them self to improve.

  105. PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE ELSE SUGGESTED THIS ALREADY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOTION CAPTURE ARRAY

  106. Money making opportunity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put them in the girl's changing room and start up your own pay site!

  107. Seriously... by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of other fun things you can do - like recording a sports game from "all possible" angles and then use the videos as a raw data for a film with the best moments.

    Record the game, then let a few groups of students come up with one video each of five minutes each from what they think was the best video moments and then see how different the videos are.

    You are of course not limited to sports events, you can actually use other kinds of events too.

    And making a stereoscopic video (3D-video) would also prove interesting.

    Mounting a camera on a remote controlled vehicle and drive that into hard to reach places to let the students get a view of how it looks under a building would be nice too.

    And this article is also providing camera ideas.

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    If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  108. Re:Staff perving at 9-year-old girls in locker roo by darthdavid · · Score: 1

    If it's high school, then why would it be wrong to be attracted to them?

    People often have trouble differentiating illegal from immoral (yes, I realize that spying on someone without their knowledge or consent can be both regardless of age and that simply being attracted to >18s isn't what's illegal, don't get in the way of a good rant with facts...).

  109. CCTV by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    Zoneminder works well... warning though, you'll need something with lots of cores and lots of RAM. Oh, almost forgot to mention, it's free (as in beer) and open source.

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  110. Why you do that? by devent · · Score: 1

    That's a serious question, why you replace 45 perfectly good working cameras with new cameras? If they were broken, then you wouldn't ask what do to with them. It's not like the quality of web-cameras matters, or that the cameras get worse with time. That's like you decide to throw away 2000$ for no reason at all.

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    1. Re:Why you do that? by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      You're making perfect cents, but...this is America!

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      WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
  111. 46D by bwashed75 · · Score: 1

    With one camera you can make 2D films, with two cameras you can do 3D. With 45 cameras... You could be the next James Cameron.

  112. Re:Staff perving at 9-year-old girls in locker roo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It could be a damn primary school for all we know.

    And the fact that he's on the staff means that he wouldn't want to see teen girls naked? Now if it's elementary school, then sure - that's a problem.

    "Primary school" == pretty much what Americans would call an "elementary school" anyway, (*) i.e. generally from 4-5 to 11-12 years old. So in that case- no.... just, no. :-6

    And to be honest, even if we were talking about teenagers, while it's fair to acknowledge that some teenage girls- including some marginally under the age of consent- may be sexually attractive in an adult manner, there's a difference between accepting that and (e.g.) some 29-year-old (or whatever) actually installing spycams to perv on 15-year-olds. :-O

    (*) (Couldn't remember the US term for it, but figured you could look it up if I was unclear. However, I now realise you could have misinterpreted this as simply meaning "main school" if you weren't aware I meant it as a technical term).

  113. Make them make you a HERO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT $$MONEY$$
    Many districts have projectors. I assume your disctrict does, and that it gives comps to each class that are connected to the projector. Get with the shop classes, and construct a holder for them and create CHEAP, EASY, Elmos systems.
    http://www.elmousa.com/

    It is a great utility in my classroom and can save mega bucks. Just import the image feed through VLC player and BAM! Its done.

  114. Document camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather than buying a document camera, just use these mounted on a stand with the webcam facing down to create a cheap document camera.

  115. random number generator by JambisJubilee · · Score: 1

    You can create a pretty cool random number generator with a webcam and a smoke detector:

    http://slashdot.org/story/06/08/13/1311238/diy-random-number-generator

    1. Re:random number generator by Zinho · · Score: 1

      As mentioned in another thread, breaking open your smoke detector for its americium is a bad idea, even if it did make Slashdot. According to the LavaRnd project the camera itself produces enough entropy data (static) to function as a cryptographically strong RNG seed. Do it the easy way and don't get arrested.

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      "Space Exploration is not endless circles in low earth orbit." -Buzz Aldrin
  116. Re:Staff perving at 9-year-old girls in locker roo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a difference between being attracted to a girl marginally under the age of consent- even if you're older- and actively going out of your way to spy on them, particularly if you were (e.g.) twice their age. It was the latter I was talking about, not the former.

  117. Stop motion!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Create a stop motion lab. Kids could use this lab to create all sorts of contents ranging from physics (cinematics for instance) to history. I'm sure they would be proud to hare their videos on Youtube. Later, teachers could use the videos on classes.

    There is plenty of open source tools to convert a set of still images into videos and to edit clips, adding sound etc.

  118. Re:chat roullete by HappyPsycho · · Score: 1

    You could still do some cool time-lapse, collect pictures from lots of different angles sweeping across the sky etc. Power might still be an issue but powered hubs can deal with that. Bandwidth would only become an issue at the first level when you have say 20-30 cameras aggregated into one port.

    I'm curious how much bandwidth a web cam can create because to saturate a 480Mbit link (USB 1.0 or 1.1 would be useless here) with 30 cameras it would take 16Mbit/s each to saturate (I guess a bit lower due to overhead). One question I have for any fellow slashdotter is, do USB hubs act like Ethernet switches and allow one segment of the network to operate at say USB1.0, while allowing the uplinks to operate at a higher speed? If not then this idea won't work if any of the cameras are USB 1.0.

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/10/14/1840224/throwable-36-camera-ball-takes-spherical-panoramas is a nice use as well if you are bored enough to take them apart to mount and solder.

  119. High-speed video capture array by AC-x · · Score: 1
  120. Since govt. cut costs....edu! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look into local educational-institutes regarding arts, research, or computers? I'm sure they could come up with some very clever and much more community-rewarding endings/usages to your mass-cam issue.

    I also liked the comment by jadin to let the students submit ideas.

  121. Re:chat roullete by arisvega · · Score: 1

    Throw them out, man. Seriously. It is good for the soul.

    While you 're at it, empty your basement too.

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    The three laws of thermodynamics:(1) You can't win. (2) You can't break even. (3) You can't even quit.
  122. Shoeless business models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many corporate business models would call for the destruction of unsellable items of value to charitable or other worthy causes purely because if such gifts were to catch on, it would be potentially bad for business. Watching a supervisor for a well-known shoe company pouring paint over a plethora of womens' shoes that could not be sold was a little disheartening from an early age on for me. Obviously, he was aware that there were plenty of people who didn't have shoes on their feet. I believe that shoe company eventually sold out or went belly-up.

  123. Set up public long-baseline near-realtime 3D views by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Randall Munroe nailed it:

    http://xkcd.com/941/

  124. Re:chat roullete by old+and+new+again · · Score: 1

    give them to people who need them, like me, for doing multicam broadcasts

  125. Telescope View / Image Capture / Video Creation by garnkelflax · · Score: 1

    I removed the lens from my old one and made a mount so I could insert the board into a cut down sink drain pipe. I use it in my telescope so while I'm controlling it from the laptop I can also see what the telescope is pointed to on the screen. No more having to look through the eyepiece. With some experimentation on focal lengths you can get the raw CCD bathed in outer space goodness, and running Stellarium at the same time is a plus. The Lunary Planetary Imager for this scope is about $100 USD and doesn't work as well.

    I have some great videos of the moon and really good captures of Saturn and Jupiter. Now if I could just get my neighbors to agree that they don't need 6 lights on during the night. I treasure trips to the NorthWest. I have eagle vision and can see the rings of Saturn with the naked eye if they aren't straight on. By see, I mean I can detect they are there, but only in the deep desert or in the NorthWest.

    I know this accounts for only 1, but it is a start.

  126. Detector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use them to detect alpha particles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFNvYA7731o

  127. Sometimes you just have let go by equivocal · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it cost your right nut and, even worse, still works as well as it did when new, but now it's just a valueless collection of plastic and toxic metals.

  128. Re:Camera Array for fast imaging or Lightfield Cam by cowtamer · · Score: 1

    Same with me, but I haven't had the time to experiment. Thanks a lot for the link!

  129. Re:Staff perving at 9-year-old girls in locker roo by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

    Oh I wasn't denying that it's illegal (for multiple reasons) - merely pointing out that any heterosexual male is going to be attracted to teenage girls, regardless of what the law says on actually acting on said attraction.

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  130. Wireless IP cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get some cheap wireless routers with USB, install openwrt and convert them into motion-detecting wireless IP cameras.

  131. I guess google is broken by Nyder · · Score: 1

    when we get really stupid ass submissions like this.

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  132. True random number generator by Zinho · · Score: 1

    The webcam can be used as input for a cryptographically strong random number generator. From the lavarnd website:

    LavaRnd is a cryptographically sound random number generator. At its heart, it uses a chaotic source to power the generation of very high quality random numbers. . . LavaRnd provides an unlimited supply of unpredictable random numbers.

    Anyone can have their own LavaRnd: The LavaRnd source code is open source. Our reference implementation uses low cost consumer parts. LavaRnd related algorithms have been released into the public domain.

    Unlike other suggestions made on a different thread, this requires no radiation source (the webcam generates enough static on its own), so the nukees will leave you alone. Open source so you can implement it freely and teach your students about the principles involved using the actual source code. It's also the successor to a RNG technique using captured images of LavaLite Lamps as a seed, which I think is awesome.

    Good luck!

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    "Space Exploration is not endless circles in low earth orbit." -Buzz Aldrin
  133. CCTV all around by onezeta · · Score: 1

    Make a CCTV on every corner you think could have a possible exit or entry. Or you could sell it for a lesser price.