New Humble Indie Bundle Goes Live

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New Humble Indie Bundle Goes Live

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 13, 2011 @08:42PM from the keeping-humble-regular dept.

Physicser writes "The latest Humble Indie Bundle has gone live, consisting of Super Meat Boy, Shank, Jamestown, Bit.Trip Runner, and NightSky. Also, if you beat the average price, you receive Cave Story+ and Gratuitous Space Battles. As always, the games are DRM-free, and this is the initial Linux release for all seven. I'm also curious to see what will be added later on, as has been the tradition of the Humble Bundles."

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One million! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 20:54 · Score: 5, Informative

They have already surpassed the 930,000 $ mark within the first ten hours, will probably reach 1 million within 12h. Maybe slashdot helps it catapult to 2 million? Go Indies!
1. Re:One million! by Larryish · 2011-12-13 20:58 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  Having bought the previous 2 bundles, I must say:
  Sorry mate, won't be buying this bundle unless every game has a .deb package available.
  Tired of buying 6 to 8 games, only to find out that only 1 or 2 of them work as advertised without hours of work configging and updating libraries.
2. Re:One million! by lucidlyTwisted · 2011-12-13 21:17 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  I've had to do the odd wee bodge to get sound to work on Ubuntu, but that's mostly because sound is still a joke on GNU/Linux.
  As for .debs everywhere, that'll keep the Fedora users happy. :)
  I'm not buying this one for no other reason that I'm still playing through all the games I bought on the others and there's simply too many Humble Bundles coming. They're ruining a great idea through over-use. Which is kind of a shame as I really like the general idea and the fact these devs are playing fair. No DRM, ports to new platforms and even the source at times. Can't say fairer than that really!
  Hmm...maybe as a stocking filler....
3. Re:One million! by iviv66 · 2011-12-13 21:30 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  Sorry mate, won't be buying this bundle unless every game has a .deb package available.
  Just for reference, in this bundle Super Meat Boy and Bit.Trip Runner have .deb packages available. Shank is a bin. Jamestown and Gratuitous Space Battles are .tar.gz. NightSky and Cave Story+ are .zip
  Not entirely sure what any of that means, but hope its helpful for linux users.
4. Re:One million! by RubberMallet · 2011-12-13 21:46 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  Most of the games on the previous Humble Bundles are available via Desura now, and I'd expect that the latest one will get Desura keys as well at some point (the Desura keys seem to lag behind a bit). Install Desura, grab your HB key from the HB site.. add key to Desura.. and it takes care of making your games work in whatever distro you use. I had loads of fiddly missing lib issues getting some of the games working (especially Crayon Physics) in Linux prior to doing it this way... now.. it's like using Steam... click.. install... click play... no drama.
5. Re:One million! by SomePgmr · 2011-12-13 21:48 · Score: 2
  
  I'd check it out if you have a minute. I was starting to think the bundles were getting... less interesting. But this one has some really great games and I'm glad I got it.
6. Re:One million! by Kjella · 2011-12-13 21:48 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  As for .debs everywhere, that'll keep the Fedora users happy. :)
  They're not exactly mutually exclusive... And you think this is a small thing but fiddling with getting shit to work quickly brings the value down into the negative - you'd actually like a refund for wasting your time on it. That's not very healthy if you're looking for repeat customers, even for free some things aren't worth it.
  
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7. Re:One million! by rapidreload · 2011-12-13 22:05 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Well if you're one of the newer generation of technically fragile Linux users who can't handle a few .run/.tar.gz files that use statically-linked libraries anyway so you don't have to worry about dependencies, be patient...
  http://twitter.com/#!/humble/status/146833629279043584
  (yes that was a troll, but at least I gave some info in it. I guess I just can't believe people using Linux can't handle non-package software, particularly since you're finally getting some decent games for a change).
  
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8. Re:One million! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 22:29 · Score: 1
  
  lol at linux users complaining that some of the few games they can get don't come in packages.
9. Re:One million! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 22:56 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  And here I was wondering why Linux is dead on the desktop.
10. Re:One million! by tudsworth · 2011-12-13 23:21 · Score: 2
  
  As a fellow Linux user, I was tempted to try out Desura thanks to the fact that most (if not all) of the bundles so far have Desura keys for those who want 'em. Not all of the games have had Linux builds added to Desura just yet (understandable - Desura's Linux version is just an Open Beta for the time being), but getting 75% of the HIB games in a "click install and play with no hassle" format is a sight to behold, especially considering all the wrangling it took to make Crayon Physics work on Debian - in the end I gave up and "borrowed" packages from Ubuntu.
11. Re:One million! by jawtheshark · 2011-12-13 23:47 · Score: 2
  
  Tried out Desura. I really should write bug reports to them, but I didn't really find out where and the forums seem to be hit 'n miss. One of the things I do, as a seasoned Linux user, is install software for all users on the system. This means Desura should be installed as root under /opt. Try that, and it won't work. Sure, you can have it in your home folder, but I do not consider that a good idea. (Basically, I should be able to do my stuff with /home mounted noexec). Desura is the prime example of the Windows Mindset creeping into Linux (Ubuntu's PPA are the other example). The tar.gz files that come with the Humble Bundle either can be installed in /opt, or can be made to work being installed in /opt.
  It's probably just me though...
  
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12. Re:One million! by rapidreload · 2011-12-13 23:51 · Score: 2
  
  I run bleeding edge ARCH
  It's hard enough to support Linux sometimes and you're running a bleeding edge distro? That kinda means you should be accepting of the fact you've made yourself more difficult to target than a more typical distro like Ubuntu or Mint.
  
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13. Re:One million! by Alphathon · 2011-12-14 00:00 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  For me it seem the "interesting" bundles are the "main"/numbered ones. Those with specific titles (like "Frozenbyte" or "Introversion") have tended to be developer specific (with some exceptions such as the "more than average price" extras) and so tend to be a little "samey" and one doesn't get as much variation from them.
14. Re:One million! by TheTurtlesMoves · 2011-12-14 00:43 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The package management is really crap. You can't do user space installs easily and it makes all sorts of assumptions about how you must manage the whole system. Didn't we use to criticize windows for requiring admin rights to install anything?
  
  And know i don't want to just type "aptget crap whatever" and end up updating a whole bunch of stuff i don't want to update, or download. Your just hiding the symptoms of dependency hell, its not fixed and any forum quickly shows. And "i have no problems, must be PEBKAC" is not how you fix it.
  
  BTW i have slackware at home and SuSE is what is used at work. I haven't booted or used a windows machine in years. Slackware solves the problem for me by not requiring updating 2x a day. I update once every 2 years or so. I have had one security alert that needed something updating.
  
  But for a game what is wrong with just a plain old archive... or do we want every installer messing with our registry?
  
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15. Re:One million! by grumbel · 2011-12-14 00:53 · Score: 1
  
  Desura is the prime example of the Windows Mindset creeping into Linux (Ubuntu's PPA are the other example).
  Kind of, but Linux people have nobody else to blame for that then themselves. The lack of a cross-platform packaging format isn't exactly a new issue, it has been a major annoyance when shipping binary on Linux for over a decade and yet progress in that area has been slim to none, it's still a complete cluster fuck. It of course doesn't help that major distro specific packaging formats themselves are also lacking in features (deb can't install multiple versions of software, can't install software as user, etc.).
  So as imperfect as Desura might be at the moment, at least it makes live a hell of a lot easier for single-user machines.
16. Re:One million! by moderatorrater · 2011-12-14 00:57 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  And you think this is a small thing but fiddling with getting shit to work quickly brings the value down into the negative - you'd actually like a refund for wasting your time on it. That's not very healthy if you're looking for repeat customers, even for free some things aren't worth it.
  Are you talking about the humble bundle or linux?
17. Re:One million! by drinkypoo · 2011-12-14 01:07 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Out of the prior bundles, only one of which I've missed, I could not get only two games to work on Linux.
  I did not bother to go back and see if the developers fixed them, but I might someday if I am sufficiently bored.
  In the current bundle the only game I've downloaded so far was GSB, which unpacked into a directory with two clearly-named executables. I ran the 64 bit one and it worked and went fullscreen and apparently full resolution (if not, it scaled smoothly enough I didn't care) immediately and worked perfectly and had an interface which was not confusing, which was a nice change from some indie games. I don't understand anyone's insistence on a .deb. Just because it's nicely packaged that doesn't mean it will work.
  
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18. Re:One million! by IronSight · 2011-12-14 01:14 · Score: 1
  
  In a tweet, the humble guys said they were making debs :) Quote from @humble: debs and rpms should be coming soon, please continue to report any bugs.
19. Re:One million! by jawtheshark · 2011-12-14 01:40 · Score: 1
  
  So they couldn't have made a simple binary installer? Whoops!!! That's exactly what they did, but they omitted allowing a multi-user installation.
  
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20. Re:One million! by Barefoot+Monkey · 2011-12-14 01:46 · Score: 1
  
  .debs are on their way
21. Re:One million! by tepples · 2011-12-14 01:51 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Didn't we use to criticize windows for requiring admin rights to install anything?
  
  No, we used to criticize windows for requiring admin rights to run anything after it has been installed.
  
  And know i don't want to just type "aptget crap whatever" and end up updating a whole bunch of stuff i don't want to update, or download. Your just hiding the symptoms of dependency hell
  The only way to completely hide dependency hell is to make each game depend only on BIOS, such that each game is bootable and runs in a VM. That's the user experience you get when, say, you run homebrew NES games in FCEUX. Is 3D graphics virtualization capable of handling this yet?
22. Re:One million! by grumbel · 2011-12-14 01:55 · Score: 1
  
  That's exactly what they did, but they omitted allowing a multi-user installation.
  Which is quite understandable, given that it's not exactly trivial to make a tool like Desura work across multiple user accounts.
23. Re:One million! by RubberMallet · 2011-12-14 02:01 · Score: 1
  
  Exactly... it's not a multi user application. 30 seconds looking at how it works tells you right off the bat that Desura is designed as a single user application. You do not have to run it from /home though... I run mine on a secondary drive dedicated to extra stuff. Works fine.
  If you know enough about your system to want to fiddle with manually installing things in /opt, and understand what noexec is, then you can probably manage getting the games to work without Desura.
24. Re:One million! by jawtheshark · 2011-12-14 02:19 · Score: 1
  
  Indeed, but keep in mind that under Windows, if you install an application it will (usually) install multi-user. That should be their goal. They should do it right. I have no problem with the program being installed on /opt and the game data to be installed on /home. (Even though Steam, for example, gets it working multi-user outside of the equivalent of /home on Windows)
  
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25. Re:One million! by jawtheshark · 2011-12-14 02:21 · Score: 2
  
  It is understandable, not excusable. On Windows we had years of broken software when the 9x line was merged to the NT line. Now it's nearly perfect, unless you need to run really old legacy applications. Linux is written from the bottom up to support multi-usage, and now they introduce the broken (old) concept of single-usage on multi-usage machines.
  Do it right the first time, I'd say.
  
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26. Re:One million! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-14 02:48 · Score: 2
  
  Funny how Windows users seem to have no problem with installers AND zipped packages. Extract to directory, run binary. But put basically the same thing in GNU/Linux and OH NO HOW DO WE DO THIS I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HELP PLEASE LINUX IS AWFUL I HATE THIS.
  It just makes me wonder how much of this GNU/Linux hate is genuine and how much of it is from people associated with Microsoft paid to keep GNU/Linux out of the hands of people so Microsoft can prop up their bloated, insecure, buggy OS.
  Anonymous because those same paid Microsoft idiots have mod points, too.
27. Re:One million! by Kjella · 2011-12-14 02:55 · Score: 1
  
  Are you talking about the humble bundle or linux?
  Not using a computer isn't really an option to me, so no it's not the same. I might compare it to Windows and OS X, but even if I find an alternative that I in total find better doesn't mean it has negative value. "I wanted to be entertained, but I was more annoyed so in total it failed to entertain me" is negative value. "The humble bundle is okay, but I really got hooked on $other_game and found that much more entertaining" just didn't give enough value compared to the alternatives. A lot of smaller tasks and even some whole applications have ended up in the "sigh, I'm not going to waste more time trying to make it work" category pulling the total score down on all alternatives though, but that's nothing unique to Linux. They're actually more annoying than the things that plain don't work, because not only do they not work but you wasted a lot of time trying.
  
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28. Re:One million! by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-14 03:24 · Score: 1
  
  So you are saying it is MS who are pretending to be Linux users who can't understand it.
  W....T.....F...?
  The problem with Linux becoming easier is that when it is hard the people who only know how to do easy stuff don't understand it. Unzipping a file isn't hard though so whoever said they didn't know what to do with .zip files is probably 1/2 way to crazy town. But I have a friend at work who uses Linux more than I do, but he doesn't have a clue how to edit a conf file in a command line. If a program isn't available from Yum or Apt-get he can't install it. It took me a day to help him add something to his hosts file.
  Also, a lot of files in .tar.gz likely need to be compiled. I haven't had as many problems compiling from source as I did 10 years ago (before Google), but it's not always common sense, and readme files often don't say what to do if you type ./configure and it errors about something missing.
  Anonymous because Linux geniuses don't understand what it is like for an average person to use Linux and probably have mod points too.
29. Re:One million! by polymeris · 2011-12-14 03:35 · Score: 1
  
  Same experience here (debian). Have bought 6 bundles so far, only remember 3 games that ran well and where worth it.
  0 (zero!) games of the frozenbyte bundle worked. And splot, which was supposed to be included, still hasn't been released.
  That said, some games did work & are great. World of Goo, Frozen Synapse, Dungeons of Dredmor.
30. Re:One million! by supersloshy · 2011-12-14 03:50 · Score: 1
  
  The games have Desura support, no? Just install the Linux client and input your Desura key for the bundle to download them. It should work similar to Steam from there on out :)
  
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31. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-14 04:10 · Score: 1
  
  I've had to do the odd wee bodge to get sound to work on Ubuntu, but that's mostly because sound is still a joke on GNU/Linux.
  Funny, about five years or so ago when XCP ruined my computer (they should have named it X-PC) and I reinstalled XP and couldn't find XP drivers for the on-board sound chip, the Linux side had sound working without any trouble at all. I wound up buying a USB Sound Blaster, which worked in XP but not in Mandriva.
  That was the only time I ever had sound issues in Linux, was with the USB Sound Blaster. Maybe you're just buying the wrong sound cards?
  To tell the truth, I've had far more problems with video than sound, although not for a long time now. The latest distros I've run have just worked (maybe it's because I'm using older equipment and the Linux devs have had a chence to write drivers for them?) I'm especially happy with the latest kubuntu, since I can access the Windows notebook's files, even though Windows help says it's impossible without a copy of Windows 7 Professional on the network (no, I don't have W7 Pro). Kudos to kubuntu!
  How much do these bundles cost? I haven't gamed in years.
  
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32. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-14 04:32 · Score: 1
  
  Are you talking about the humble bundle or linux?
  
  Sounds like Windows to me. It took me a month to figure out how to shut off my notebook's tap to click "feature". Control panel? Nope, not there. Everything about Windows wastes time, from installation to maintenance. MS's vaunted "user friendliness" is a sad joke.
  
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33. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-14 05:01 · Score: 1
  
  it makes all sorts of assumptions about how you must manage the whole system.
  Package management is good in kubuntu, but unfortunately I found an irritating Microsoftism in Amarok. I love the way Amarok finds lyrics to almost any song it plays, even if the song was sampled from an LP or cassette (this impresses the hell out of me, I can't figure out how they do this David Copperfieldery), but distressed that it "added some hand picked internet radio streams we're sure you'll enjoy" to my playlist, and then re-added them when I deleted them because they sucked. Did someone from Redmond join the Amarok team?
  At least it's not as bad as WiMP. After installing Winamp and making it the default Windows media player, I click on an .ogg file and WiMP pops up and says that it can't play them. WTF, Microsoft??? You're not happy with dual boot and want me to erase Windows? It sure seems so.
  Slackware solves the problem for me by not requiring updating 2x a day.
  I think all the Linux distros are like that. Even better is not having to reboot because the AV software updated its tables (AV? What AV? Reboot? Without replacing the kernel? Why?)
  
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34. Re:One million! by GNious · 2011-12-14 05:29 · Score: 1
  
  Try windows 7 - is the least user-friendly POS I've tried in a long time, and I got a headless Ubuntu server...
35. Re:One million! by lucidlyTwisted · 2011-12-14 05:43 · Score: 1
  
  How much do you want to pay? Average price is around $5-$6. You take a look, decide what it's worth, pay that.
  You can increase your donation later on if you like.
36. Re:One million! by Korin43 · 2011-12-14 07:15 · Score: 1
  
  Also, a lot of files in .tar.gz likely need to be compiled. I haven't had as many problems compiling from source as I did 10 years ago (before Google), but it's not always common sense, and readme files often don't say what to do if you type ./configure and it errors about something missing.
  .tar.gz is just means a compressed archive, it doesn't mean it's in source form. While the Humble Bundle games tend to release their source code too, no one sane would distribute a game that way. To "install" a game in .tar.gz format, you untar it into a directory and run the executable (which if you're using Gnome means "right click on the file and click 'extract'"). Oh, so hard.
  Or you know, you could use a package manager. I've installed all of the Humble Bundle games with 'yaourt -S [game name]' (yaourt being the package manager).
37. Re:One million! by wikthemighty · 2011-12-14 08:43 · Score: 1
  
  Yep, the two side bundles I bought mostly for the extras. #4 is chock full of goodness, though!
  
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38. Re:One million! by shutdown+-p+now · 2011-12-14 10:59 · Score: 1
  
  I don't see why package management can't be made that allows for user-specific installs. After all, we already have a system where system-wide configs are in /etc, and user-specific stuff is in ~. Why can't the package manager have two databases for installed packages, one global, and one per-user?
39. Re:One million! by tepples · 2011-12-14 12:35 · Score: 1
  
  I don't see why package management can't be made that allows for user-specific installs.
  I can see one: lack of money to pay people to implement it. I'll grant that that's pretty much the only reason.
40. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-15 02:33 · Score: 1
  
  I have it on my notebook. It's better than previous versions in many ways, but still has a long way to go. Examples: the setting to shut off the "tap to click" bug (they call it a feature) isn't in Control Panel. Control Panel itself is a mess; they went backwards with it. XP's was better. It takes a hundred mouse clicks to change anything, and that's after hunting for it because it's so illogically laid out. You have to boot it at least monthly for its Tuesday patches, and more frequently to update other software. When you do reboot it, you have to reopen all your apps and documents. And unless you're leaving your computer wide open you have to enter a password when you boot. And no matter what you do on your computer, you must do it the Microsoft Way.
  Linux (at least kubuntu and Mandriva) have none of these disadvantages. It took a month for me to find the "tap to click" setting in Win 7, less than five minutes with kubuntu.
  
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41. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-15 02:42 · Score: 1
  
  Thanks, I'll have to have a look at them. I'll bet Leila would like a lot of them.
  
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42. Re:One million! by Coren22 · 2011-12-15 04:14 · Score: 1
  
  That specific feature is something the driver is giving. Since it isn't built into Windows, I can understand it would be difficult to find.
  
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43. Re:One million! by GNious · 2011-12-15 23:40 · Score: 1
  
  McGrew, how did you get Win7 to update? That has so far eluded me; Windows XP machines, Kubuntus (latest), Ubuntu Server (10.4), OSX 10.6 machines, all update nicely, but Win7 (Home Premium) simply fails with an error-code that Microsoft's help-pages do not know.
  Similar with MS' Security Essentials - it keeps bugging me about Windows is unsafe (redundant?), but refuses to update virus/fw definitions, or whatever it is it downloads (download works, only actually installing update fails)
  But your right about Control Panel - it is really gone from being a bit of a mess to being completely useless.
  I still hold onto WinXP on my work PC - Boss can just /try/ to suggest replacing it with Win7
44. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-16 01:36 · Score: 1
  
  In kubuntu it was right where you would expect it to be in KDE's version of Control Panel. Took less than a minute to find.
  
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45. Re:One million! by mcgrew · 2011-12-16 02:28 · Score: 1
  
  Don't know, I'd guess there may be some glitch in your registry (that damned registry is one thing I hate about Windows). The notebook's OS updated without a hitch, as has Firefox and FreeAVG.
  Maybe there's a problem with your antivirus? It could be screwed up somehow and keeping your machine from updating. Try uninstalling MSSE and see what happens.
  
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46. Re:One million! by RubberMallet · 2011-12-19 20:47 · Score: 1
  
  And I counter you (valid) point with a question - just how many people actually use a multi-user setup with Windows? Home users I mean... VERY VERY few. Statistically, that number is so small that it may as well be zero. In all my years of working in IT (since the late 80s) I've only met one person who had set up his home computer for multiuser... the rest simply used the computer with whatever user it comes up with on boot.
  If you tell these people that they can set up Windows to have separate accounts for each family member, they will look at you blankly, and then go out to the local computer store to buy a second computer - this is EASIER for them than trying to understand multi-user logins on Windows.
  A significant portion of Desura's target market is made up of people of a similar mindset. They don't care to have multi users... one is fine, and if Desura only installs locally.... they don't even notice.
  It would be nice if Desura would partner up with the major Linux distros.. say... at least Ubuntu and openSUSE to get their product dropped into the standards repos... then.. then it'd be set up "right" and no one would have to bother with asking.. is it in /opt? Is it multi user?
47. Re:One million! by jawtheshark · 2011-12-19 22:22 · Score: 1
  
  Let me state it bluntly: You will not get Windows Logo Certification if you don't support Multi-user/Limited-user setup. If there were a Linux-Logo certification, I'm sure the conditions would be similar.
  You are right about them better partnering with one of the major distros. That would be the "Linux way", and the solution to all the (to me) bugs that exist. As said, I am member of the beta program, and I haven't found a way to easily file bug reports. From what I gather the only thing is the forums. That's no space for good bug reports.
  The Linux-user target is much more savvy than the Windows user target and this means that bugs/problems like these should be addressed. I know how Windows users use their machines, I also know that I either have to repair their machines after a few months, or they need to get a new computer (adding a nice one to my dumpster diving collection). If I repair their computer, it's under my conditions and that means they lose admin under Windows. For me that's "problem solved". Don't play by my rules? No support by me.
  
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hmm.... by justforgetme · 2011-12-13 20:57 · Score: 5, Insightful

I think that humble bundle inc should slow down a bit..
2 bundles in a month?
I don't know if it's the games or just me but the last one I skipped because the games didn't intrigue me that much and this one seems about the same to me. It might also be that I'm just disenchanted because of the constant presence of some humble bundle to the point where it isn't something special anymore.
Am I being a fart or do others think less frequency more quality would be nice?

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1. Re:hmm.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 21:06 · Score: 1
  
  I would agree, but there's Super Meat Boy in there. That alone makes up for it quality-wise.
2. Re:hmm.... by bazorg · 2011-12-13 21:10 · Score: 1
  
  It just goes to show that "the long tail" can be reaaaally long. There's probably much more games and publishers than anyone imagined. I've spent just above the average and got more games than I have time to play.
3. Re:hmm.... by Hasney · 2011-12-13 21:13 · Score: 1
  
  Not for me. I can't see a reason why I would want less frequency of decent indie games that I can choose how much I want to pay.
  
  I have most of these games, but I'm going to pick it up for Jamestown alone.
4. Re:hmm.... by mindsofpsi · 2011-12-13 21:16 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Well, it has been five months since the the last numbered humble bundle came out, but I get what your saying.
5. Re:hmm.... by Mathinker · 2011-12-13 21:17 · Score: 5, Insightful
  I also skipped one of the bundles (Voxatron) because, yes, it isn't "special" anymore. I started to actually research the games to see if I am really interested enough to buy.
  However, the fact that it isn't special anymore is fascinating because it indicates:
  
  It is a viable business strategy to sell DRM-less games for "pay what you want" (even if it's only after the first sales "surge" has finished)
  Providing a Linux version has (at least some) marketing value
  There are a lot more quality indie games out there than I was aware of
6. Re:hmm.... by majesticmerc · 2011-12-13 21:45 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  I actually agree, sort of. It's not that I have anything against indie developers getting their stuff out there, but the problem is that I find myself less willing to splash out on it. With the Introversion bundle and HIB4 in the same month, I spent less than $25 on both, but with the original bundle, I spent $25 for that on its own.
  By far my biggest gripe though is the "developer specific" humble bundles. Again, I don't have a problem with indie devs marketing their stuff, but the Humble Bundle was designed to be something special that gave obscure independent developers some coverage, and also do something nice for charity. With the advent of the Introversion and Frozenbyte bundles though, the whole thing just seems to become marketing noise (and I'm not even sure that Introversion needed the coverage, Darwinia was a fairly highly rated game back in the day).
7. Re:hmm.... by sourcerror · 2011-12-13 21:52 · Score: 1
  
  Well, I always find at least one good game there. Although passed on the Voxatron bundle. And I haven't got into Darwinia yet, but Defcon is decent.
8. Re:hmm.... by blahplusplus · 2011-12-13 22:00 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  "I think that humble bundle inc should slow down a bit.."
  Compared to what the game industry right now is, everyone should want to keep these guys in business. Sure the games aren't that great but you need money to increase the quality of your games. The first games they release aren't going to be the greatest, games take huge amounts of money and resources to develop. Modern AAA games take teams of hundreds and years of development.
  These guys can't simply spend AAA budgets on games they have to find a viable business model before they can expand and grow to higher quality games. Gamers expectations are so high because of 50 million dollar games these guys have to start somewhere. We're seeing an industry reset in a way whether they will make enough money to make more AAA like games or they will just milk it for all it's worth remains to be seen how much money they can get and whether or not they want to grow or not.
9. Re:hmm.... by drinkypoo · 2011-12-13 22:25 · Score: 1
  
  I'm only grumpy that they can't seem to notify me of new bundles. I always leave the notify me box checked, and I never get notifications. Not in my spam folder either.
  
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10. Re:hmm.... by hldn · 2011-12-13 22:31 · Score: 1
  
  this. i missed humble bundle 2 because i didn't get a notification.
  thankfully, they ended up including it in with bundle 3, which i did get.
  
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11. Re:hmm.... by Rogerborg · 2011-12-13 22:47 · Score: 1
  
  We should reward mediocrity and just hope that it gets better because...?
  In which part of the public school system do you work?
  
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12. Re:hmm.... by drinkypoo · 2011-12-13 22:57 · Score: 3
  
  Why don't you just pay the minimum needed to unlock the additional games? That way you get all the games so you can try them out, and if any of them are actually worth more scratch, you can pay more at your leisure. I think most of us can afford to pay six bucks frequently. In some bundles I've ended up paying more, in most I haven't. It's your call. I like the frequent releases. I had never heard of Darwinia, so clearly the games could use more exposure. (IMO Darwinia could use some more work in the interface, too. I found it annoying to actually play, though the concept is cool.)
  
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13. Re:hmm.... by daid303 · 2011-12-13 23:15 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Actually, these are great games. Or, Super Meat Boy, Shank, CaveStory+ and Bit-Trip-Runner are. I already own those, which makes the bundle not that interesting for me. But these are not "low quality" games. I have more playtime in Super Meat Boy then in 2 big AAA combined. (new Deus Ex + Portal 2)
  These game studios don't have big bucks for big graphics, they make it up in gameplay value.
14. Re:hmm.... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 23:16 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  These aren't AAA titles, with the budget to match. That doesn't make them mediocre. It may make the graphics less polished, the game a little shorter but it also allows for games that would never be possible in a AAA format (throw money, people see if it sticks now days).
  "Sure the games aren't that great" - many would disagree.
15. Re:hmm.... by blahplusplus · 2011-12-13 23:28 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  "We should reward mediocrity and just hope that it gets better because...?"
  If you buy any modern games you are already rewarding rehashes and mediocrity, so gamers clearly don't have a problem with it (see call of duty, etc). So please spare me your BS. Most games today are cinematics /w little gameplay. Most PC games have been sloppy ports over the past 10 years.
  Next many of the games come with source code (so if you're a tinkerer you can modify/learn from it/update it/ make it your own, etc). Try getting that in the game industry at all these days. The whole idea that you start out producing amazing stuff with the budgets of these smalld developers is nonsensical. The game industry had decades to get to where it is at today. Your expectations have been colored by decades of advancements.
  You really need to load up some old NES games on emulators and look at all the shit games then, many indie games today out-shine most 8-bit NES and some 16-bit games from the SNES/GEN era. You don't start at the top when you're a small business, you start small and work your way up. The games are a reflection of the finances of the developers themselves, they'd rather not go out of business.
  How many AAA dev houses are in debt? What's the stock of THQ lately? Oh yeah look at that stock price!
  http://bit.ly/s9ZUIX
  Making high quality games don't mean much when you don't have a viable business model to survive to make more games.
16. Re:hmm.... by justforgetme · 2011-12-13 23:30 · Score: 1
  
  Darwinia! Was the only game of the last pack that I thought I would like. still I didn't buy it because
  a) I'm still having tons of fun with all the games from the pack I have bought (and some games I haven't even touched jet, not much free time)
  b) if it comes down to just one game I probably would prefer to go directly to the dev, shake his hand, give them some money and buy it there.
  
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17. Re:hmm.... by justforgetme · 2011-12-13 23:39 · Score: 1
  
  a game's value is judged with the amounts of fun (yes, you can measure that in mol*kg/parsec^3 ) it provides to the person who plays it and occasionaly to the peers watching. this has nothing to do with ff13 like graphics. or elder scrolls / warcraft like lore
  
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18. Re:hmm.... by MaskedSlacker · 2011-12-14 00:42 · Score: 1
  
  It's Gratuitous Space Battles that has me excited.
19. Re:hmm.... by LighterShadeOfBlack · 2011-12-14 01:05 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Yes there have now been three bundles in the last couple of months. But I've noticed lots of promotions and sales going on all over the place at the moment. It's almost as if there's some massive consumer holiday that's fast approaching that sellers want to take advantage of...
  
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20. Re:hmm.... by tlhIngan · 2011-12-14 04:01 · Score: 1
  
  think that humble bundle inc should slow down a bit..
  2 bundles in a month?
  I don't know if it's the games or just me but the last one I skipped because the games didn't intrigue me that much and this one seems about the same to me. It might also be that I'm just disenchanted because of the constant presence of some humble bundle to the point where it isn't something special anymore.
  Am I being a fart or do others think less frequency more quality would be nice?
  That's my same problem. I bought all the HiBs to date, but the last 4 or 5 of them have been coming out once a month, and I find I just give just above the minimums now.
  Before that, sure, I'd toss $25 for the bundle, but the next time a month later I just threw in $10, then the past few just enough to be "above average" to get at those extras you get - which I think has been around $5-5.50 or so.
  $25/month for a year is $300, which is a lot of money. When it was once, maybe twice a year it was $50 a year tops. Now if I'm just doing around $5-6 a month, that's $60-72. Acceptable, but I'm not sure if the devs want to split such a small pot amongst so many games.
  Charities know this as "Donor Fatigue" - where there's more and more charities chasing the same pool of donors at the same time - each one gets a smaller amount. The same thing happened when for whatever reason, the charity lotteries all fell within the same few months - they all found that the tickets weren't selling and were effectively competing against each other. Had they spaced out their lotteries there would be far more money - buying a ticket for one every few months is a lot easier than trying to decide amongst the 3 or 4 which one to buy.
  They also need a better download interface - they say to make backups and such as they can't guarantee the files will stay up, but it's a hassle downloading the files one by one and then having to compare the MD5's manually. You'd think they could provide a nice SHA1sums (MD5, seriously?) file so we can test the downloads in an automated fashion.
21. Re:hmm.... by goarilla · 2011-12-14 05:27 · Score: 1
  
  What's wrong with md5 it's fast and almost everywhere, yes the probability of collisions might be 2^48 instead of 2^96
  or whatever, but it suffices imho !
  
  If it was crc32 I could understand but md5, jeez louise.
22. Re:hmm.... by JohnnyBGod · 2011-12-15 06:04 · Score: 1
  
  I'll add NightSky to the "great games" list and remove Runner, as it has a lot of copy-paste level design and insanely long levels without checkpoints.
Day Late and Dollar Short or...My $0.02(purchase) by the+roAm · 2011-12-13 21:01 · Score: 1

This isn't actually news and it's also about 15 hours late.

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Re:Whoosh by lucidlyTwisted · 2011-12-13 21:12 · Score: 2

Really? Really, really?
Here are some devs playing the fair and open game (you can pay one cent if you want) and you have to be a total shit and still rip them off? Exactly where do you get off being such a cock?
It's people doing exactly this kind of venture you should be supporting!
If you can afford your monthly broadband, you can afford a few dollars to pay them. If you can't, don't play. It really is that simple.
And as for "free", you do know that doesn't necessarily mean "without charge" don't you? I guess not, otherwise you would be acting like such a total fuckwad.
You're probably such a clueless shit-head that you torrent songs from Mangatunes and Jamendo to "fight the man, man".
Piss off.
Re:Whoosh by mehrotra.akash · 2011-12-13 21:26 · Score: 3, Interesting

I would think its better for HIB if the people who would have paid a very small amount pirate it instead
Atleast they will save on the overheads
Though I dont know about their costs, so cant say what that amount would be
Any idea how much it actually costs them for the processing+Bandwidth+costs of keeping the accounts per bundle to breakeven?
Re:Whoosh by Mathinker · 2011-12-13 21:29 · Score: 1

FYI, YHBT
> such a clueless shit-head that you torrent songs from Mangatunes and Jamendo
Calm down, man. Jamendo officially uses torrents for distribution of its music.
I read that as... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 21:49 · Score: 1

India has sent a bundle to the Hubble Telescope and it has be turned on.
Re:Whoosh by Ihmhi · 2011-12-13 21:51 · Score: 1

Some people just outright don't give a shit. That is something that you need to accept. You can't logically sway them to do something they really don't want to do.

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Thoughts on the games themselves by RogueyWon · 2011-12-13 22:01 · Score: 4, Informative

Most of the comments above are focussing on the "Humble Bundle" system. As I've actually got most of these already via various Steam sales, I thought I'd try to comment on the actual games.
Super Meat Boy is the best of the bunch and is definitely worth a few dollars if you don't have it already. It's ridiculously difficult in places, but also very more-ish. You really do want a gamepad to play it properly, though - keyboard mode is not nice.
NightSky is clever, but I found its appeal fairly short-lived. Bit.Trip Runner isn't really doing anything we haven't seen done better elsewhere. Shank and Jamestown are the two I haven't played.
You'll get a much more interesting package if you pay above the average. Cave Story+ is really very good indeed - and I suspect that between that and Super Meat Boy, you could justify paying over the average. Gratuitous Space Battles is a really great idea, but I've found that it works far better at a level of principle than it does in practice (where it tends to be deeply frustrating and has a learning curve that annoyed even me - and I've beaten and loved Dark Souls). It's the best game in the package from a graphical perspective, if that matters to you (though still a long way behind mainstream commercial offerings).
1. Re:Thoughts on the games themselves by daid303 · 2011-12-14 02:16 · Score: 1
  
  FYI: I have Shank. And it's a quite typical button bash fight game, like Double Dragon. It's fun to play, not extremely novel, but it's fun to smack around in. It feels right, you mash buttons and stuff happens.
2. Re:Thoughts on the games themselves by JohnnyBGod · 2011-12-15 06:12 · Score: 1
  
  You really do want a gamepad to play it properly, though - keyboard mode is not nice.
  Um... why? I've beaten it with a keyboard without any problems, and I never really got those annoying warnings at the beginning. I can think of a lot of games where a gamepad is better than a keyboard*, but this isn't one of them.
  * Anything where you mash a lot of buttons at the same time (you don't in SMB), and where there isn't the possibility of confusion between horizontal and vertical inputs (there isn't in SMB).
Why do I need a Steam key? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 22:40 · Score: 1

I don't want anything to do with Steam. I have no use for a game that needs an always-on connection. If I buy these games, Valve has no need to know I exist.
1. Re:Why do I need a Steam key? by grumbel · 2011-12-13 23:32 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  The Humble Bundle doesn't need the Steam keys, they are just an optional addition, you can simply download the .bin/.exe/.tar.gz directly if you want.
2. Re:Why do I need a Steam key? by roskakori · 2011-12-13 23:36 · Score: 1
  
  I don't want anything to do with Steam.
  AFAIK you don't have to. Using the Steam key is optional (or at least was for the Trine bundle, but I doubt it changed for this one).
  Once purchased, you'll receive an email that tells you where to download the DRM free archives for the game.
  Alternatively, you can use the Steam key and let Steam care about the rest. I've never used mine, but I can see that it's convenient for other gamers because of automatic updates, friend lists, achievements, the "join game" function and so on. So if much of your gaming revolves around Steam, the optional key seems to be a good thing.
3. Re:Why do I need a Steam key? by drinkypoo · 2011-12-14 01:10 · Score: 2
  
  Oh this old crap again... if only Steam would stay in offline mode, this would be true. It seems to occasionally forget, usually when you've had an unexpected reboot, or when it crashes, which it does regularly. I had it crash the last time I tried to delete some local content, for example. (Well, not the last time, because when I rebooted, re-ran Steam, and tried again, I was successful.)
  
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4. Re:Why do I need a Steam key? by tepples · 2011-12-14 13:43 · Score: 1
  
  Offline mode. Works for me just fine.
  
  I seem to remember reading that one had to remember to set Steam into offline mode while still online. Has this changed?
Ironically... by SomeGuyFromCA · 2011-12-13 22:40 · Score: 5, Informative

This makes me less likely to buy indie games. I paid full price for Gratuitous Space Battles not six weeks ago.
At least the Trine 2 page warns me: "Linux and DRM free versions will be added to Humble Store purchases in 2012." (Which is why I'm waiting on it. Screw Steam-spyware.)

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1. Re:Ironically... by malkien · 2011-12-13 22:59 · Score: 1
  
  I'm not sure I understand this logic.
  It is like buying something at the store the day before they start a sale.
  Does that make you less likely to buy things in stores?
2. Re:Ironically... by happylight · 2011-12-14 00:25 · Score: 1
  
  If you knew there's going to be a sale tomorrow and you don't need it right away, of course you're going to wait....
3. Re:Ironically... by malkien · 2011-12-14 02:09 · Score: 1
  
  sure, but there is always a time that precedes the knowledge of the sale.
  if you want something during that time you just buy it full price (if you deem the price right).
  the parent actually stated he is less likely to buy some kind of product again if he experiences the disappointment of a full price purchase somewhat close to a sale.
  this can be true of just about any product, more so downloadable games which seem to be constantly on sale on rotation.
  following that logic you eventually should stop buying everything.
4. Re:Ironically... by evalhalla · 2011-12-14 05:58 · Score: 1
  
  If I know that every couple months there is an Humble Bundle, I can expect most indie games to be available in there, and unless some title is extremely interesting I will probably wait a few months for the bundled version.
  On the other hand, if the HB comes only once or twice in a year, with some 5 titles each time, the chance to get an individual indie game in less than a year are lower, and people are encouraged to buy them directly.
  This happens also with stores, even for basic things such as groceries: if I know that every 6 months or so there is a sale on e.g. canned tomatos (or anything other non perisheable good that I use) I will wait for the sale and stock for the next 6 months.
5. Re:Ironically... by SomeGuyFromCA · 2011-12-14 17:13 · Score: 1
  
  If I see an indie game I wish to buy, and it just came out, I'll buy it. (Assuming no Steam.)
  But from now on, if I want to buy it but it's a year or two old, I'll figure it'll be in Humble Bundle soon enough, with no DRM and possibly a Linux version, and thus won't buy it from the developers.
  That's what I meant.
  
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6. Re:Ironically... by trdrstv · 2011-12-20 08:54 · Score: 1
  
  This makes me less likely to buy indie games. I paid full price for Gratuitous Space Battles not six weeks ago.
  I get what you're saying... What the HIB taught me is I NEVER have to pay retail for an Indie game. I'll just wait around for the next bundle throw in some $ and play what's there. At the rate they are releasing them I can't keep up with the games anyway so I'll never starve myself for new content AND I will constantly be introduced to new games.
Re:Do we really need all of this advertising ... by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 22:40 · Score: 2, Insightful

So keep up the great work Humble Bundle salesmen and indie developers, but please find more appropriate places to advertise.
Do you have even the slightest fucking idea where you're posting at? This is a perfectly cromulent place for mention of HiB seeing as there are nerds, computer geeks, programmers and gamers among the denizens of slashdot. It ain't just all Linux circlejerking and Windows bashing here sonny.
And you're concerned because this thread amounts to a little free advertising? Pull that stick out of your ass.
Re:Day Late and Dollar Short or...My $0.02(purchas by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-13 23:28 · Score: 1

Actually, "15 hours late" is approximately the same as "33 hours beforehand" in Slashdot time.
Where is EFF? by ElusiveJoe · 2011-12-13 23:41 · Score: 4, Insightful

I don't see it in the donation list. Where is EFF when it needed most? I may be an evil person, but I don't want to donate money to US and UK hospitals, I don't care.
1. Re:Where is EFF? by dark_knight_ita · 2011-12-14 00:47 · Score: 2
  
  You can move the sliders to give nothing to the charity.
2. Re:Where is EFF? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-14 01:16 · Score: 1
  
  For what it's worth, the money doesn't exactly go to hospitals, it is used to purchase toys/video games that are then donated to hospitals that work with the charity.
  It's a great cause, especially if you've seen the quality of entertainment available to unfortunate children who have to spend any amount of time in a hospital.
  Think those with serious asthma, or cancer, leukemia etc. They spend a large chunk of their childhood in and out of hospitals, and via this charity, that time doesn't have to be miserable.
  ALthough I also recognize the EFF as a necessary and powerful force, I'd rather spend money making kids happy than lining lawyers pockets.
3. Re:Where is EFF? by ElusiveJoe · 2011-12-14 10:24 · Score: 1
  
  You know, if it was some sort of international organization, I'd consider it. But US and UK only... Nope.
Indie Royale Bundle by grumbel · 2011-12-13 23:41 · Score: 5, Informative

For those that have missed it: Seems like the Humble Bundle is getting a bit competitions, a few weeks ago the IndieRoyale Bundles got launched, they follow a similar model of multiple games for an almost-pay-what-you-want price (min around $3). it however doesn't have the charity and it only sometimes has Linux versions of the games. Also their game selections seems to be not so great most of the times, however they include a gem every now and then.
1. Re:Indie Royale Bundle by drinkypoo · 2011-12-14 01:04 · Score: 2
  
  There are only two features important to me, DRM-free and Linux support. The most awesome thing about the bundles, to me, is the total lack of lock-in. Not only do I not have to worry about DRM (hey, GOG gives me that, and many of those antique games are far more polished than the professional games of today, let alone indie titles) but I can also flip between platforms at will. The thing that keeps me on Windows at all is gaming, and having more games for Linux means I'm less tempted to reboot so that I can play something that doesn't work (or work well) under Wine. I spend most of my home desktop time in Windows these days because I am often playing civ in the background.
  
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2. Re:Indie Royale Bundle by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-14 01:11 · Score: 1
  
  Hrnf, that IndieRoyale stuff stinks of "let's make $$$", which the Humble Bundle doesn't (even if it _does_ make a lot of $$$). I don't agree with the lack of EFF on this new bundle, though, and will pay less because of that (but still over average, I always beat the Linux average).
  The Indie Royale won't see my money anytime soon.
3. Re:Indie Royale Bundle by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-14 01:55 · Score: 1
  
  This one grabbed my attention, for people who don't mind Steam: http://www.indiegala.com/
  Saw it mentioned on Rock, Paper, Shotgun not long ago
4. Re:Indie Royale Bundle by sky289hawk1 · 2011-12-14 06:17 · Score: 1
  
  No mac support, no care.
5. Re:Indie Royale Bundle by grumbel · 2011-12-14 06:47 · Score: 1
  
  Looks like there are two more Indie Games Pack and Little Big Bunch.
Gamepad for OS X? by NakedYossarian · 2011-12-14 01:03 · Score: 1

Looks as if I'm going to need a controller for Super Meat Boy. Any suggestions for a console-like OS X game pad? There are some nice Logitech wireless controllers out there but they don't seem to be OS X compatible.
1. Re:Gamepad for OS X? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-12-14 04:47 · Score: 1
  
  http://tattiebogle.net/index.php/ProjectRoot/Xbox360Controller/OsxDriver
Re:Day Late and Dollar Short or...My $0.02(purchas by drinkypoo · 2011-12-14 01:08 · Score: 1

It was news to me, because they can't (or don't want to) send me notifications of new bundles. And yes, I checked my spam folder. And if you knew 15 hours ago, why didn't you share it with the rest of the class?

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Voxatron and Jasper's Journeys were great by Hyperhaplo · 2011-12-14 01:30 · Score: 1

I quite liked Voxatron and Jasper's Journeys from the last bundle. For these two games it was worth it.
The only downside to both of these, in my humble opinion, is the game length. Would have liked more levels. Hoping that these games are extended in the future.
I could easily go for Jasper's Journeys 2
Could be I'm addicted to Mario clones :-)

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Re:Whoosh by mdragan · 2011-12-14 01:53 · Score: 1

Don't know about their costs, but they already offer the downloads through the bittorrent "network". So, people who use this option put very little strain on the network of the Humble Organizers, and share this "burden" among themselves.
Re:Whoosh by hansamurai · 2011-12-14 01:54 · Score: 1

Most people purchasing are using Windows, and most of those users will use the Steam key provided. I don't know if Valve will charge HIB for using their bandwidth or how any of that works at all, but most of the bandwidth costs are just running their server smoothly during the sale.

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Re:Whoosh by mwvdlee · 2011-12-14 02:23 · Score: 1

I'm assuming your dayjob doesn't involve selling any products, services, entertainment, anything worth any money to anybody or in fact is nonexistant?
How else could you morally justify pirating games you can legally purchase for less than the cost of a beer?

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Re:Whoosh by mehrotra.akash · 2011-12-14 02:26 · Score: 1

They webseed the torrents, so still are paying for the bandwidth I believe
But hansamurai's comment makes sense
Re:Whoosh by mdragan · 2011-12-14 02:42 · Score: 1

Yes, that's how torrents work, you seed for the first people downloading, then they become seeders themselves (before their download ends and after for as long as they keep seeding), and so on, until the strain on the original uploader becomes minimal, exactly like the pirated distribution except the torrent link is not public.
Re:Whoosh by Chryana · 2011-12-14 02:56 · Score: 1

I don't know much about processing fees, but I do know that netflix said recently that it costs them a penny to stream a gigabyte of data. I doubt they get such a nice deal on bandwidth, but even if they pay ten times as much, I think those bundles are far more profitable to them than to the developers per hour of work invested, especially with the default money split which is suggested on purchase.
Gratuitous Space Battles by johanwanderer · 2011-12-14 04:32 · Score: 1

... is reason enough to get this bundle :) It's an awesome game.

http://positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2011/12/14/humble-indie-bundle-4/

http://positech.co.uk/gratuitousspacebattles/index.html
1. Re:Gratuitous Space Battles by j_presper_eckert · 2011-12-14 06:04 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, tell me about it. :) It's not only visually polished and loaded with options, but I'm happy to see that there's an active modding community for it. Many of the mod packages I can see so far are stunningly awesome. This bundle was cash well spent.
  
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ControllerMate is your friend by zooblethorpe · 2011-12-14 05:00 · Score: 2

Seriously, have a look at ControllerMate over at http://www.orderedbytes.com/. This tool allows you to customize any input device that your Mac can read from. You could turn your built-in Qwerty keyboard into Dvorak, or use an NES Advantage plugged into your USB port to control iTunes -- almost anything is possible, from simple key mapping to full custom scripting. I used ControllerMate to customize button mappings for my wired USB Logitech gamepad for those games I've got that have the controls hard-coded. I don't have any wireless Logitech products, but so long as your Mac can read the signal coming from the device, you could use ControllerMate to make it do what you want.
FWIW, I'm not the dev, and I don't know him. I've just used the software in the past (and found myself wishing that something this versatile and easy to use also existed for Linux).
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"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
Re:Whoosh by mehrotra.akash · 2011-12-14 05:33 · Score: 1

true, but thats only IF the downloaders are seeding as well. Most people will just limit upload to 1-2kBps and stop when the DL completes
Windows only? by zooblethorpe · 2011-12-14 07:20 · Score: 1

Looking at those two sites, all games will run under Windows, apparently, and a small handful on Mac, but neither site has any apparent support for Linux. "Boo hoo," some might say, but multi-platform support is one of the big draws for me with the Humble folks.
Cheers,

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"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
Serious oversight by DreadPiratePizz · 2011-12-14 07:50 · Score: 1

I bought this for Super Meat Boy, and it turns out I can't configure any controls or set and settings at all, since this is all done through the steam client, and what you get in the bundle is a standalone application. I'm not too happy with only being able to play in windowed 640 x 480 with the keyboard.
1. Re:Serious oversight by deek · 2011-12-14 12:58 · Score: 1
  
  I bought the bundle as well. You can alter the resolution of Super Meat Boy in the Help and Options section. I've got it running at 1920x1080, fullscreen. Works a charm.
  The game starts up with a picture of a game controller, so I assume there's some code in there which allows it to use one. I haven't looked much into it yet.
  Funny thing is, the game doesn't save settings, so I have to go in and change the resolution every time I start the game. Oh well, a minor niggle.
Hope things get interesting by Taylorz1 · 2011-12-14 22:56 · Score: 1

Bought the sometimes funny, sometimes very disappointing, hope this time to buy interesting things.2012 cheap ugg boots
Re:Published by EA? by am+2k · 2011-12-16 03:22 · Score: 1

EA is the opposite of indie, pretty much the monster in the industry. Lookup spouses vs EA lawsuits.
That spouse letter is old. Nowadays, the other publishers have seen EA and realized what's possible to get away with, and are even worse than them.
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