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Multiple Sclerosis Damage Washed Away By Stream of Young Blood
FatLittleMonkey writes "A new study on mice suggests damage caused by diseases like Multiple sclerosis, as well as natural aging, can be reversed by an infusion of stem cell rich blood from younger mice. Multiple sclerosis is a chronic inflammatory disease that erodes the fatty myelin sheaths around the axons of the brain and spinal cord, and can result in serious disability. Similar effects occur naturally with aging. From New Scientist: 'White blood cells called macrophages from the young mice gathered at the sites of myelin damage. Macrophages engulf and destroy pathogens and debris, including destroyed myelin. "We know this debris inhibits regeneration, so clearing it up is important," says team member Amy Wagers of Harvard University.' Here's the academic paper's abstract."
I vant to suck you blood!
Need to bathe me in some virgin blood - Ahahahahaha!
Life extension gets at least SOME coverage on Slashdot.
Baptised or unbaptised?
A use for all those annoying neighborhood children.
Someone get Michael J. Fox some new baby blood, stat. He's got a sequel to make.
Seriously, what a misleading subject. It made me laugh though.
There aren't any credible reasons to believe that aspartame causes MS. If that were the case you wouldn't expect the highest rate of MS in the world to be in Seattle where folks tend to be fairly paranoid about aspartame and artificial sweeteners in general.
...If we can grow stem cells in test tubes and then periodically inject those, is that morally dubious? Like growing artificial meat? Or we go the Bioshock route and go harvesting...
More like we'll go the capitalistic route. Little Johnny Wong and Jill Sindu can help their families by selling blood for $2 a unit. What could possible go wrong with that?
If we can grow stem cells in test tubes and then periodically inject those, is that morally dubious?
Absolutely not - but it would exacerbate the problem of overpopulation, at least until we learn to terraform other planets and/or live in space.
The Star Trek: TNG episode Too short a season underscores the pitfalls of vanity-related age reversal.
i always thought the lesson was impatience will kill you.
only me who is reminded of the episode of southpark where Christopher Reeves snap babies in half to suck out their spinal cords?
Isn't this basically what Heinlein used in Methuselah' Children back before I was born?
Be funny as hell if we ended up with a Public Health Service providing new blood to everyone when they needed it, as a life-prolonging treatment....
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
A black dude I knew years ago used to call me "young blood". Now I know why.
Professor Farnsworth knew it all along, so did Mr. Burns.
You can't handle the truth.
It is interesting that aspartame was once manufactured by Monsanto. I have no idea why there are so many pages linking aspartame and MS. I don't see how Monsanto would benefit from this either.
Hmm...
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Got to love that the 4th link listed is the snopes bit showing why the others are crap.
One of the points made in Kim Stanley Robinson's trilogy beginning with Red Mars is that even with things like multiple space elevators, you'd never be able to move more people off the planet than are being born everywhere on it. The colonization of space is not a solution for population pressures.
I'm afraid not. There is no conclusive link between aspartame and MS within the scientific community. Such claims are often repeated by doctors-turned-authors, scam artists, and conspiracy theorists, though.
Moving on, I do wish this madness with stem cells would end. They have their own soul as much as my feces (mostly dead blood cells and bacteria) do.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
I always thought the high incidence of MS in Seattle was due to their headquarters being in Redmond
*ducks
Monstar L
Stop calling me Christopher! That name no longer has meaning to me! Christopher was someone who lived in a wheelchair! Always being pushed around by others! The old Christopher Reeve is dead! From now on, I am... [looks back menacingly] Chris!
It's not hard to find more than one page suggesting it's just a hoax.
http://laurafreberg.com/blog/?p=55
Maybe one day we'll learn the truth (the truth is out there) but something just seems fishy to me. I know someone with MS who drinks lots of diet coke, I don't trust it.
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I've been diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Started with lesions in my spine taking out all the sensation from my neck to my hips for a month or so, then the blindness in one eye, since then various bouts of stocking+gloves neuropathy that come and go, mixed with random sensations of walking barefoot on gravel and every now and then I lean right while walking in a straight line.
At the time of the first incident, I was drinking about 2 liters (straight from the bottle) of non-diet Dr. Pepper a day, and didn't touch the diet stuff.
Now I drink the diet stuff (still about 2L/day) and lost 60 pounds. Doesn't seem to make a difference neurologically to me. YMMV.
I am not really sure to be honest. I do not see what these individuals can benefit from scaring people away from aspartame? The security industry? I am suspicious of aspartame because it was/has been manufactured by Monsanto and know people with MS who drink too much diet colas.
http://bolenreport.com/feature_articles/feature_article062.htm
http://laurafreberg.com/blog/?p=55
There is at least a link to symptoms that are similar to MS. Given the number of people who drink diet coke, there must be some people who are sensitive to it.
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That should read sugar industry.
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I don't see why growing artificial meet would be morally dubious. Better than killing intelligent animals, for sure.
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MS and MSFT are both equally virulent diseases which have resisted our efforts to cure.
I suspect you'd also see a huge correlation between Type 1 (and maybe even Type 2) Diabetics and MS if aspartame was a causal link. Since I was diagnosed with Type 1, I consume massive amounts of artificial sweeteners to avoid sugar.
Given the number of people who drink diet coke, there must be some people who are sensitive to it.
Just about every product both natural and artificial has some people that are sensitive to it. If you decide not to eat something because someone somewhere is sensitive to it then I can assure you that you will die of starvation. As to what the people scaring others have to gain, money, notoriety, attention, research dollars, market share.
That's assuming that population growth remains constant when life expectancy and standard of living increase. However, it seems that living better and longer tends to result in having fewer children. Figuring out the exact effect would be difficult, but it could possibly make overpopulation LESS of an issue. In a nutshell, the way it might work is that people would be forever young and have no intention of settling down, and many people may be more career driven if they can achieve new levels of education. However, a lack of aging doesn't protect us from accidents, homicide, and suicide, so we'd still have those factors taking down our numbers.
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Hmm... Comrade Chairman, I think I found a way to not only enforce our "one child per family" rule, but also profit from it...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Heinlein made that point in Farmer in the Sky, in 1953.
http://michaelsmith.id.au
The colonization of space (particularly Venusian upper atmosphere floating cities) by the ludicrously wealthy is actually a reasonable solution, short-term, for the (small) population pressure due to life-extension work, since they'll be the only ones able to afford it, and coincidentally the only ones able to afford Venusian vacation/retirement homes (and the contract labor to keep the place up and running, naturally).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory
I could see this becoming a new business in the third world. Selling children's blood would not be far fetched. Look up were all (or most) of the hair for natural wigs and extensions comes from: Little girls in India.
Ugh, this aspartame nonsense is the worst kind of pseudo science. I suppose you also believe that vaccines cause autism? What about peach-pits curing cancer?
Wait, let me guess: the "medical establishment" doesn't want you to know the "shocking truth".
Looking below, it looks like you also believe Monsanto is in on the conspiracy!
I'd laugh if spreading nonsense like you've been doing wasn't so dangerous. People like you are causing real and measurable harm.
Leave medical science to the experts. Hmmm... I better clarify that: Reading a few conspiracy websites does NOT make you an expert!
Required reading for internet skeptics
natural aging, can be reversed by an infusion of stem cell rich blood from younger mice.
That explains how Dick Cheney manages to hang on so long; he's been sucking the life force from local villagers at night.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
now the biomedical companies that make profits from selling to blood banks are suddenly going to have a whole new revenue stream.
"A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual..."
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
People have been getting MS long before Aspartame was even invented.
With the hope of artificial blood, one would expect the future need for blood donations to wane. However, if this new research pans out, the demand for real human blood will probably rise. And with a potential Fountain of Youth, I would suspect a potential black market to form.
MS = Microsoft and MS = Multiple Sclerosis therefore Microsoft = Multiple Sclerosis! You're right! This is pure mathematical proof that Windows is a disease.
Even cheaper, and something that can't be patented by unscrupulous scientists and pharmaceutical companies, but researchers have already found MS can be reversed by changing your diet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc
Dr. Terry Wahl presented at TEDxIowaCity that eating nutrient dense foods reversed her second stage MS, and they have moved on to trying it is more subjects. But it sure won't get government stem cell money. And the recommendations fly in the face of government dietary recommendations. Not to mention probably more than a few slashdotters habits.
Compare, trials in mice. Versus clinical trials in humans.
As mentioned elsewhere, the scammers sell books and gain fame, which they use to sell more books and get on talk shows.
Distrusting a biological chemical because it was once manufactured by a biochemical company who makes some particularly nasty products is as ludicrous as trusting a product because its company has made a few good products lately. Do you think they somehow encode pure evil into the molecule, and it's somehow never noticed by the myriad safety studies?
iPads suck for slash dot. I will cease my rant now...
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
So Elspeth Bathory was at least half right.
Artificial meet? What, like, a dating site?
You sir are arrogant and unpleasant. Maybe in X years we will truly find out how safe these things are. There is no conspiracy, only a link.
People like you do not see things before they are too late. People who stop and think about things (and witness them) are people who discover problems. Nobody thought X was harmful until it was too late. Maybe I am wrong about aspartame, I honestly have no idea, I just thought I would throw it out there. There is plenty of sources that state both angles.
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It looks like, for once, we could actually see a treatment in a relatively short period of time.
No, it is that Monsanto has a bad reputation for manipulating public opinion and suppressing facts. There are many front groups that are funded by corporate interests. To ignore this when judging the merits of research is folly.
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I may have been wrong about singling out aspartame, it could be another chemical that is in diet colas.
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how is growing stem cells morally dubious?
This is a joke. I am joking. Joke joke joke.
. They have their own soul as much as my feces (mostly dead blood cells and bacteria) do.
Who has argued that stem cells have souls? What's been argued is that embryo's are human (albeit at the earliest stage), and that getting into the habit of producing human life in a lab to be harvested for its resources (in this case, stem cells) on a mass scale open's a Brave New World kind of Pandora's box. If you're going to argue, at least begin from a real premise.
Second, all the big advances have come not from fetal embryo harvests, but from adult stem cells that have been repurposed in the lab. Feel free to correct me with a link should you have one, but I'm not aware of a single breakthrough in any of the fetal trials. Our own adult cells seem to be the best way to get the results we're looking for. And none of the people objecting to the fetal cell research object to adult stem cell research. So harvest your blood, bone, and skin tissue to your heart's delight. Not a single Catholic or Evangelical will object. And you're much more likely to actually get a working result.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Way to counter somebody's snopes link with the very same links the snopes article completely debunks. Everything on their is completely false. It's proven fictional writing featuring made-up doctors and absurd MSG-Floride-Aspartame Zionist New World Order conspiracy garbage. You have been conned, and not even by a slightly convincing troll. It's just painful how nonsensical that bullshit is. The "link" you are going on about is this: Decades ago an actual researcher left their email logged in, and somebody else sent out a terribly awful troll chain letter about the evils of aspartame. They mention that it metabolizes into methanol (true) and that methanol poisoning has MS/Parkinsons like symptoms (true) and concluded therefore that aspartame causes MS and Parkinsons (as well as about 50 other diseases from heart disease and stroke to cancer). And when the actual doctor said "I didn't send that" well that was just more proof for all of those "in the know" about the evils of the Monsanto or the UN or whoever is using aspartame to make money / brainwash people into supporting the NWO / whatever it is they're doing. They had back-traced the email and threatened this researcher, forcing them to recant, clearly, so that's all the proof you need! They wouldn't have made this researcher pretend they never sent the bogus email unless it was true!
At any rate, it's not MS aspartame causes, it's cancer. A friend in highschool told me. Her chainsmoking diabetic grandma died of cancer, and she drank a ton of died 7-up. QED.
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
You can clone yourself grow "it" to 11 months old, then use the blood to rejuvenate yourself? Wonder what will become of us if we figure that bit of science out what with our situational morals.
natural aging, can be reversed by an infusion of stem cell rich blood from younger mice
Drink young blood, stay young forever...now where have I heard that before?
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
1. Stalk pretty young girl. The younger the better.
2. Extract her blood with a needle and inject yourself with it while it is still warm.
3. Rinse. Repeat.
4. Solve Rubik's Cube and prepare for eternal life.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
This will spur more twilight movies.... Please help us now.
You have to meat the meet.
http://michaelsmith.id.au
Could you explain your reasoning on your ... interesting use of apostrophes? The plural of embryo is embryos. That's it, add an "s" and you're done. How about "open's"? Was there something belonging to the open, or did you mean open is or open was?
This should make the 1% happy and those among the 99%, like their fawning Tea Party who protect them, a purpose in life.
Here they kept telling me my basement altar for child sacrifices wasn't useful for anything!
If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits
MS was recently linked to vitamin D deficiency.
Not a sentence!
Freakin' hippies...
Second, all the big advances have come not from fetal embryo harvests, but from adult stem cells that have been repurposed in the lab.
And until there's a change in US policy, it'll probably stay that way.
Embryonic stem cell research was leaving the US to take advantage of Europe's more liberal laws,
BUT last year, the European Court of Justice banned patents on procedures that involve embryonic stem cells.
So now the research is going to go where the profits are, which are creating stem cells from non-embryonic sources.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
So the southpark episode of Christopher Reeve becoming more powerful than you could possibly imagine by cracking open baby fetuses and sucking the stem cells out was TRUE!
I am running out of time. Quit the damn mice and throw some of that shit on me.
Easy enough, right? Just get regular transfusions from someone young. Except nobody is going to advocate blood donations from children. Could you have your own cells harvested, reverted to stem cells, and reintroduced into your bloodstream?
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
I only submitted the story because of the original headline "MS damage washed away by a stream of young blood", in anticipation of Microsoft jokes. (Curse you, competent editors.) Glad to see I got my jokes after all.
Thank you sir and/or madam.
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
People that sell alternate sweeteners (i.e. Stevia based). Alternative, Homeopathic, Naturopathic, or CAM practitioners that sell their services. People that make money off of books about medical conspiracies and nonsense. People that make money from ads from page hits on their blog about medical conspiracies. People that like fame and want to gain followers somehow.
Never mind that some people just really like a good conspiracy. Reality hasn't gotten in the way of chemtrails people, and I'm not sure there's much money to be made there.
The "there's no money in ____, so why would anyone say it unless it's true?" argument is rarely, if ever, valid.
The cells of the human body have a limited lifespan. The aging process is basically you running out of replacement cells. Using blood transfusions will help some, but it's the stem cells that will make you young. And stem cells from someone else will trigger your immune system- and using anti-rejection drugs is a horrible way to live. So you want your own rejuvenated stem cells, and getting there should only be one Apollo project equivalent away- so about 10 years if you have the money. The second issue- it will cost. So most medical plans won't cover this. Meaning the rich get to live forever, not you. And if you don't see a problem with that, just think of Bill Gates NOT getting old and retiring. Ever. Having a ruling class of immortals running the earth is how that will end. Rich enough they don't care about you, from another generation so they don't understand you, owning everything and constantly looking for the next google so they can buy it up. This would make a cool plot for a science fiction movie, but in real life it will suck.
In that case, did XP mean Xeroderma Pigmentosum because it couldn't withstand the light of day?
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The stories about Countess Bathory bathing in virgin blood are considered by most scholars to be slander. Most info we have on her suggests that she was a horrible, vile, cruel human being, but the degree to which she's been made into a monster is just a matter of the story growing in the telling (by her political enemies, mostly).
Turns out that back in the day it was a lot easier to just make up ridiculous shit about people you hated because there was no good way of disseminating evidence to the contrary or of fact-checking. Marie Antoinette's infamous "let them eat cake" is another great example of slanderous rumor-mongering turned "history."
Two liters of soda pop a day!! Good god man are you mad!
Read Methuselah's Children by Robert A. Heinlein.
Hmm interesting. I wonder if there are large number of vegans in Seattle?
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I've always been wont to mete the meat, but to each his own.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vitamin-d-and-ms/AN01894 There are a large number of clouds in Seattle. Sunlight is a primary source of vitamin D.
Not a sentence!
Another argument for Cloning.
about those stories of baby sacrifices...
It would be nice if normal cells could be reverted to stem cells, but as far as know that is in the realm of science fiction.
However harvesting stem cells and storing them for later infusion is happening every day.
When my son was born 2 years ago, the placental cord blood was collected and processed (at our cost). The stem cell rich blood is sitting in cold storage in case he needs them at some time in the future. I hope he never does, but it's a small investment compared to losing him to leukemia or some other childhood disease.
Since then we have heard of 2 children among our associates who have childhood leukemia, the best treatment involves cord blood/stem cells infusion, but neither banked the cord blood, so hopefully the chemotherapy will be successful.
You might want to check this out: Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency - CCSVI
Excuse me, wtf r u doin?
It would still seem to me that depending on Dr. Pepper for your daily fluid intake might not be the smartest thing to do.
When I worked in the US a decade ago I had a colleague who drank a gallon of coke for breakfast. She came in the morning with what, to me, was a bucket with a handle, full of ice and coke, way bigger than her head. It usually took her 2 to 3 hours to finish it. Since it was a bit too heavy to lift confortably, she would rest it on her bulging stomach (as some kind of self-fulfilling feedback loop I guess) while sitting in her chair, then lean back in the chair and drink. It was like watching some weird feeding ritual in a zoo.
Non-Linux Penguins ?
Asinine.
Replace space elevators with personal space faring shuttle craft or the entire air transport system with a space capable analogy and this argument is torpedoed like a Romulan warbird.
You are very much correct. I did not think about other sweetener manufacturers.
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People have been getting MS long before Aspartame was even invented.
People were dying of lung cancer before cigarettes were even invented.
While I agree with you that there is no link between MS and aspartame, I think your argument was poorly thought out.
Every end has half a stick.
Black people are lazy. Jews are greedy. Rednecks are stupid. Americans are fat. /. posters live in their moms basement.
Maybe I am wrong about these things. I honestly have no idea. I just thought I would trow it out there.
See how silly this is?
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
In that case, did XP mean Xeroderma Pigmentosum because it couldn't withstand the light of day?
completely off-topic, but XP was an inside joke by the NT team at MS. The project name for the client-server architecture to be based on NT was "Cairo". Win95 and Win98 were the first public releases of the Cairo client-side architecture. It was disappointing to the Windows dev community, because they lacked many of the security and networking features promised by the Cairo team. The gist of the forums comments were, "Where's Cairo?" W2K was the first public release of the server-side Cairo architecture, but it still had only a bare subset of the Cairo features. Again, public commentary was basically, "AD and NTFS is nice, but where's the journaling file system? C'mon MS, give us Cairo." So, the Cairo team responded, and gave the world XP. X is the greek letter chi, and P is the greek letter rho -- Chi-Rho, or Cairo.
Looks like she did know what she was doing after all.
It would look kind of like this: Vampire Hunter D.
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People who stop and think about things (and witness them) are people who discover problems. Nobody thought X was harmful until it was too late. Maybe I am wrong about aspartame, I honestly have no idea, I just thought I would throw it out there. There is plenty of sources that state both angles.
The problem with your approach, which would seem to be that there are people saying X is bad, so it might have some truth to it, so we better not use X, is the exact argument that anti-vaccine zealots often use. So onset of autism symptoms comes about at the same age that children get vaccines? Must be the mercury in vaccines! Remove the mercury, No change. It must be something else in those same vaccines. Study after study has shown there is no correlation at all. The researcher has been thoroughly discredited - it appears that his plan was to make money in conjunction with a lawyer.
Despite all this, despite children actually being harmed and killed by perfectly preventable diseases, there are still people who insist that vaccines are somehow at fault for things that they do not cause.
So no, it doesn't make sense to reject anything that someone says causes something. That's because there is a paranoid undercurrent, perhaps even people who "make shit up" because they enjoy causing people worry.There is also the rumor mill of people who have an agenda, be it profit, or sometimes even vegetarian zealottry. And with the "some guy on the internet said" phenomenon I don't know which one is which, but I don't really care.
Anyhow, if diet soda caused MS, we would be seeing a serious epidemic, easily traceable, because a lot of people drink a lot of diet soda. That would be a lot of MS cases.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Ok, I just read your link and I don't see any pitfalls there at all. The problem was that the age reversal didn't work (or perhaps that he screwed it up by taking both doses himself, instead of following the instructions).
If there's a lesson there, it's to always follow the instructions when you're given medication.
The solution to overpopulation is education. Every society where education has increased and economic prosperity has increased, population growth rates have decreased. There's really plenty of room here for all 7B of us, and probably up to 15-20B. The problem is our addiction to fossil fuels; if we could eliminate that, our population wouldn't be such a problem. There's plenty of solutions: denser cities, SkyTran personal rapid transit, etc.
If only I could find a unicorn!
There's a slight problem with your comparison, specifically the one about Americans. Americans ARE fat. There's no denying it, it's an established fact. Every study done about it shows that Americans suffer from obesity far more than most other populations in the world. Obviously, not every single American is fat, but to say that "Americans are fat", which is obviously a generalization, is true. Trying to make it out as a prejudicial statement is wrong.
As for the first three, they're all true too, the problem is that they single out certain groups and imply they're more guilty of it than the rest of the population, which probably isn't true and is unfair to those groups. Humans, in general, are lazy, greedy, and stupid.
No wonder Americans are so over-weight! Their like children gulping that much corn syrup.
Sorry, but this is anecdotal bullshit. I hope nobody is mislead by this charlatan.
I have MS and of course I would love to see this cured but this procedure is not acceptable.Not all people go along with this stem cell thing and I am one of them.For those people who do,that is their choice.I also am an ordained minister and on the point of living forever,this is simply not possible since man has inherited sin and the wages of sin is death.Not meant to start a debate but the above statement is simply a fact and above that statement is my opinion.
"Knowing people with multiple sclerosis, I can say it is a horrid disease, you gradually lose your functions over time. I believe there is some links to aspartame intake."
I would mod you back up, but then I could not reply. Hope this can help the people you know:
"Doctor Reverses MS in 9 Months by Eating These Foods "
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/23/overcoming-multiple-sclerosis-through-diet.aspx
There is a mention of avoiding aspartame there (I don't know how big a part of that it is), but there is also getting enough vitamin D, getting Omega 3s, getting enough iodine, eating lots of fruits and vegetables, and more... Those for sure could make a difference for many people eating the Standard American Diet and avoiding the sun.
The website of that doctor in the video who cured herself by eating better:
http://www.terrywahls.com/
More health links by me:
http://www.changemakers.com/discussions/discussion-493#comment-38823
Much chronic disease in the USA will yield to dietary interventions and vitamin D (see Dr. Joel Fuhrman's website, too, and Dr. John Cannell's).
Hope those people you know can benefit from this.
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
http://www.terrywahls.com/
"In 2003 Terry Wahls, M.D., was diagnosed with secondary progressive multiple sclerosis and soon became dependent upon a tilt-recline wheelchair. After developing and using the Wahls Protocol, she is now able to walk through the hospital and commute to work by bicycle. She now uses intensive directed nutrition in her primary care and traumatic brain injury clinics. Dr. Wahls is the lead scientist in a clinical trial testing her protocol in others with progressive MS. "
Also:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/23/overcoming-multiple-sclerosis-through-diet.aspx
Her work was done In Iowa, so maybe a little better then Transylvania? :-)
See also my other comment to this article mentioning Dr. Joel Fuhrman and Dr. John Cannell; with links here:
http://www.changemakers.com/discussions/discussion-493#comment-38823
Perhaps there is some nutrients and vitamin D and such in the blood of young creatures? But you can get it from vegetables, sunlight, and other things instead of blood...
From Dr. Wahls' site:
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I am a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine in Iowa City, Iowa, U.S.A., where I teach internal medicine residents in their primary care clinics. I also do clinical research and have published over 60 peer-reviewed scientific abstracts, posters and papers.
In addition to being a doctor, I am also a patient with a chronic, progressive disease. I was diagnosed with relapsing remitting multiple sclerosis in 2000, just as I began working for the University. By 2003 I had transitioned to secondary progressive multiple sclerosis. I underwent chemotherapy in an attempt to slow the disease and began using a tilt-recline wheelchair because of weakness in my back muscles. It was clear: eventually I would become bedridden by my disease. I wanted to forestall that fate asmy long as possible.
Because of my academic medical training, I know that research in animal models of disease is often 20 or 30 years ahead of clinical practice. Hoping to find something to arrest my descent into becoming bedridden, I used PubMed.gov to begin searching the scientific articles about the latest multiple sclerosis research. Night after night, I relearned biochemistry, cellular physiology, and neuroimmunology to understand the articles. Unfortunately, most of the studies were testing drugs that were years away from FDA approval. Then it occurred to me to search for vitamins and supplements that helped any kind of progressive brain disorder. Slowly I created a list of nutrients important to brain health and began taking them as supplements. The steepness of my decline slowed, for which I was grateful, but I still was declining.
In the fall of 2007, I had an important epiphany. What if I redesigned my diet so that I was getting those important brain nutrients not from supplements but from the foods I ate? It took more time to create this new diet, intensive directed nutrition, which I designed to provide optimal nutrition for my brain. At that time, I also learned about neuromuscular electrical stimulation and convinced my physical therapist to give me a test session. It hurt, a lot, but I also felt euphoric when it was finished, likely because of the endorphins my body released in response to the electrical stimulation. In December 2007, I began my intensive directed nutrition along with a program of progressive exercise, electrical stimulation, and daily meditation. The results stunned my physician, my family and me: within a year, I was able to walk through the hospital without a cane and even complete an 18-mile bicycle tour.
In 2007 I was losing my phone and keys and was afraid my chief of staff would soon be calling me
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
On solutions to any fossil fuel limits:
"GE: Solar Power Cheaper than Fossil Fuels in 5 years"
http://cleantechnica.com/2011/05/29/ge-solar-power-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels-in-5-years/
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
It honestly doesn't matter how cheap solar power is, you still can't use it to replace fossil fuels in any kind of vehicle, unless it's a golf cart or perhaps an electric car that's built for very short distances (such as the Nissan Leaf: it's fine for short-distance commuting, but that's it). Until the battery technology problem is overcome, that's never going to change (or unless they start building real public transit that can realistically replace cars for most uses, such as SkyTran, which wouldn't replace all uses of cars, but would make the need to use cars much less, causing many people to just use public transit in town and rent a car if they need to go somewhere else.
If that were the case you wouldn't expect the highest rate of MS in the world to be in Seattle
MS was recently linked to vitamin D deficiency.
Hmm interesting. I wonder if there are large number of vegans in Seattle?
There are a large number of clouds in Seattle. Sunlight is a primary source of vitamin D.
You got there before me, as I'd originally intended saying this to the OP.
I live in Scotland, which has the highest prevalence of MS in the world, and it was in the news here recently that our general lack of daylight (*) may be one possible cause for this.
I don't know how Seattle compares to Scotland in general, but I did know that it's further north and generally not as blessed as California is when it comes to sunshine.
(*) Although people do forget that the shorter days in more northerly locations is balanced by the fact that in *summer* they're conversely longer. Then again, you also have to consider that (i) the sun is going to be lower in the sky in general- and hence weaker- the further north you go, and (ii) that the generally greater levels of cloud (from poor weather) robs you of significant amounts of daylight.
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I also forgot to mention, you can't use electricity for aircraft or ships, you can only use fossil fuels there, for all the same reasons as with cars, only worse.
I guess I did forget one other factor: if solar-generated electricity became cheap enough, you could use it to synthesize fossil fuels, rather than digging them out of the ground and refining them. But it'd have to be really cheap to reach that point, since natural fossil fuels have a natural advantage in that the energy needed to make them was provided by eons of natural processes and is already done, so all we have to do is pump it out (which granted, is getting more expensive as the lower-hanging fruit dries up) and then refine it, and a synthetic process, while it would be able to skip the refining step and go straight to the desired fuel, would have a lot of inefficiencies to factor in (and then of course there's the giant inefficiency of burning it to create usable power, wasting most of the energy in the form of waste heat, but we already suffer with this).
Gotta love the pseudoscience about corn syrup. The quantity is sick, but sugar is sugar.
This is just about the scariest thing I have ever seen. Think through this...
Given what was actually done in the study:
4 needles
2 tubes
Then connecting the blood supply of a old mouse with a young mouse.. And HUGE improvement in the older mouse.
I posit that this physically simple thing is being done, and has been done by wealthy people for decades, maybe even for more than 100 years.
2,000 children go missing in the US each DAY.
Many hundreds of the 2,000 are never found.. each day.
Some rich, famous, or powerful people seem to defy odds with their appearance and longevity.
All they need is a compatible host, perhaps a small child, and a few hours here and there hooked up to them.
Do you really think that people at the top, who start wars, poison water and air,steal food and medical care from the poor, and all around play at EVIL would be above of doing this if it was the fountain of youth?
Do you not think that doing something simple like this would not occurred to others over the decades? Did the Nazi or Japanese
death camp doctors never include this experiment in the long list of horrors they inflected on death camp victims?
And once discovered, it is so very easy to apply.. Just a few standard blood tests, 4 needles and 2 tubes.
I guarantee, if it was NOT done in the past, there is some dictator, drug lord, aging movie star, oil tycoon, or the like running blood tests on some abducted child at this very moment .
If compatible they will be hooked to them before the end of the week.
Once no longer of use they will 'disappear', just like hundreds of children each day in the USA.
Seriously, this is scary to even think about.
So Elizabeth Bathory was right all along?
Yes, sugar is sugar. Something chemically not-exactly-like-sugar is not processed by your body the same way sugar is.
What was that you were saying about pseudo-science?
("First you get the sugar...")
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
So harvest your blood, bone, and skin tissue to your heart's delight. Not a single Catholic or Evangelical will object.
Won't object? I'm certain they'll figure a way to link this behavior to masturbation. Instead of realizing that by suppressing this natural urge to rid the body of testosterone, they have caused many more wars than would otherwise have happened.
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
Nothing wrong with a good diet, and proper D3 levels are already tested by a lot of neurologists and supplements are recommended to maintain them in MS suffers.
But, of course, the authors claims that good food is all you need. It all falls down when I saw the recommendation not to take interferons, which, unlike this diet, has a huge amount of research that shows that it reduces relapses for those with relapsing-remitting MS, and lengthens the periods between replases.
Given how little is understood about MS, it is greatly specious to claim that MS can be cured by a diet. And to assume that the doctors behind this work don't have their own biases and agendas just because they don't toe the "party line" in research seems a bit naive.
Finally, given that MS has periods of remission, how can you claim that MS is reversed vs being in a period of remission? Here, the authors are quite slient on this question as well.
Now the thing about Charlie Sheen and the tiger blood all begins to make sense...
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2603836&cid=38588550
while the richest and most evil are living longer (Cheney, Murdoch, Pickens, etc.).
Why not just embed the charging system in the road?
If was only done on the freeway that should be enough. That way you can drive unlimited distance on the freeway + 100 miles worth of battery should do.
The added cost seems to be the only real issue.
1) How would you do that? Inductive coupling at high speed with a 12" gap? I don't think so.
2) How would you meter that and charge people appropriately, without resorting to Gestapo GPS systems tracking everyone's movements?
3) The efficiency would be shit. You can't transmit electricity under a road for hundreds of miles without losing most of the power in resistance losses. You only get around that by stepping the voltage up to very high levels (like 765kV for transmission lines), but then you can't use that under a road for charging cars.
Anecdotes are not evidence, true. But usually charlatans have some sort of profit angle. Everything she is advocating can be bought at a supermarket. Also, she isn't pushing some sort of vegetarian idology (she recommends organ meat and fish). She isn't selling a diet book or anything.
None of this makes her correct, but I have a hard time seeing how she would qualify as a charlatan, even if she is wrong.