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Samsung Reinvents Windows (Not the OS) With Touchscreen Display

An anonymous reader writes "If you want a large, interactive display on your wall, typically you have to make space for it by moving any pictures out of the way, and finding room next to any shelves or lighting you have installed. Samsung's idea is to remove that problem by creating a transparent display that replaces an actual window, or at least sit over the top of one. The display uses ambient light during the day and then can switch over to a more traditional black background as a night time mode. If you want to shut the daylight out it has virtual blinds you can draw to help darken a room. And from the outside you just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen. Yes, your neighbors will talk."

227 comments

  1. O RLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So I guess perverts can just stare at the inside of windows now.

    1. Re:O RLY by denpun · · Score: 1

      FTA: "And from the outside you just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen". So what your viewing is safe from prying eyes....but they can see you like they would be with a normal window....I wonder if they should/will make the other side to show blinds/curtains as well....so when I want my window shut----to the outside world...i just "turn on" the blinds/curtains.....on the other side too...

    2. Re:O RLY by denpun · · Score: 1

      yes..there is a typo in the statement from the article..and I just copied and pasted it directly....did not want to change what the site said....

    3. Re:O RLY by gmhowell · · Score: 4, Funny

      yes..there is a typo in the statement from the article..and I just copied and pasted it directly....did not want to change what the site said....

      That's what 'sic' is for. I'd link to the page at wikipedia, but, you know...

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    4. Re:O RLY by adolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously. So many folks are blamed for errors in these days of blogs and chaos, when a simple [ sic ] would be perfectly adequate to exonerate them.

    5. Re:O RLY by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

      But Wikipedia is "down" right now! Perhaps if we donate enough--nah, bitcoin jokes are long past their due date.

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    6. Re:O RLY by kyrio · · Score: 1

      The point was that linking to Wikipedia won't work because it will just return a black page.

    7. Re:O RLY by beachcoder · · Score: 2

      But Wikipedia is "down" right now!

      Just turn off CSS and you're good to go.

    8. Re:O RLY by rb12345 · · Score: 1

      Disabling JavaScript works here to get around the SOPA banners (which are pretty pointless outside the US, since we can't do anything much about it).

    9. Re:O RLY by adolf · · Score: 1

      If Wikipedia is broken for you at this particular moment, then that is just evidence that you lack sufficient Kung-Fu to make it work anyway and are therefore unsuitable to make a valid comment in this particular discussion.

      (In other words, I think that part of my point is that Wikipedia has been working just fine for me, even though it is after 12:00AM EST. YMMV.)

    10. Re:O RLY by St.Creed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Disabling JavaScript works here to get around the SOPA banners (which are pretty pointless outside the US, since we can't do anything much about it).

      Which is the point. You can't do much about it, but you'll suffer the consequences with the rest of the world.

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    11. Re:O RLY by justforgetme · · Score: 1

      CSS? not JS?

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    12. Re:O RLY by justforgetme · · Score: 1

      OK. And what exactly is this remark trying to achieve?
      Except of making one feel helpless, ignored and insignificant?

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    13. Re:O RLY by beachcoder · · Score: 1

      Possibly - haven't bothered testing it - I just stick Opera in User Mode.

    14. Re:O RLY by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      I'm sure, once we rinse off all the SOPA, wikipedia will come back.

      SOPA may be dead (or dieing) but PIPA and the other crap legislation are still out there, and need to be stopped.

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    15. Re:O RLY by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      Actually, governments stron-arm each other all the time, trying to get laws passed, particularly with copyright stuff lately.

      So, yeah, you can do something - you can pressure your leaders to pressure the US congress to not be stupid. SOAP may be dead, but there are two more piles of shitty toilet paper that need to follow it.

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    16. Re:O RLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      add ?banner=none to the end of url on wiki, master yoda

    17. Re:O RLY by delinear · · Score: 1

      I'd read that the window was "one way". I assumed, since you can see out (clearly, from the example) this meant that people couldn't see in (i.e. the windows would be blacked out). That would make much more sense, there's rarely a good reason for people being able to see into your home and lots of bad reasons.

    18. Re:O RLY by delinear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can even just turn off Javascript and use the site entirely as normal (with CSS et al), but I would advise not to - it's a worthy cause and we should be supportive of it, even if it's a little inconvenient.

    19. Re:O RLY by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      They say specifically that it's ok to circumvent the blackout - they just want you to see their message at least once. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

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    20. Re:O RLY by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I, uh, still don't want to view CERTAIN websites on a window that is viewable by my neighbors. To protect my, uh, privacy. And, of course, to keep neighbors from wondering exactly which appendage I've been using for "tapping my window"!

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    21. Re:O RLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the grandparent post has a point. If this stupid USA law passes, it will affect people around the world, and if the goal of this protest is to emulate the damage that SOPA and PIPA could cause, then it is appropriate. Yes, we in the Free World (i.e. outside the USA) might not be able to do much in a direct political sense, but we can at least talk about the problem and how silly the US politicians are, and maybe that will get covered in the media, and then maybe the silent majority of apathetic US voters and non-voters might start to care about what their nutty politicians are doing on their behalf.

      Not that it has ever worked for issues such as war, copyright law, or a host of other issues in the past, but here we're talking about a law that will "mess with people's internets". This is serious stuff. I mean, wikipedia going down for the day might not be much of a big deal to most people, but this could just be the start if these laws continue to progress: expect more boycotts. Hopefully we'll never have to actually resort to the "nuclear option", like shutting down lolcats or 4chan.

    22. Re:O RLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Justifies hating lazy americans for ruining it for all of us :)

    23. Re:O RLY by somersault · · Score: 1

      How are you supporting the cause by not using Wikipedia? It's not the usage statistics that count, the whole thing is just to raise awareness. It doesn't matter if an already aware person continues to make use of it.

      Besides, it seems to be working for me, maybe thanks to adblock..?

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    24. Re:O RLY by kyrio · · Score: 0

      You are a retard.

    25. Re:O RLY by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Being supportive of the cause means contacting your representatives, not abstaining from wikipedia. Go ahead and use a workaround, just don't forget to call.

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    26. Re:O RLY by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      But if the "blinds" are invisible to the outside world, they'll see you naked behind them and have a better idea of whether you're a pervert.

    27. Re:O RLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about asking your government to threaten boycotts and other trade sanctions against the US if every country did it they would shut up and play nice.

    28. Re:O RLY by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      If you've quoted someone and haven't put in a sic then you HAVE made an error and SHOULD be blamed. It's just not the error you're being blamed for.

    29. Re:O RLY by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Well, we could impose sanctions. Or invade.

    30. Re:O RLY by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      How are you supporting the cause by not using Wikipedia? It's not the usage statistics that count, the whole thing is just to raise awareness. It doesn't matter if an already aware person continues to make use of it.

      Besides, it seems to be working for me, maybe thanks to adblock..?

      If you want to support the cause, call your senators and representative in the house. At least email.

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    31. Re:O RLY by somersault · · Score: 1

      Oh sure, who's the senator and representative for Scotland then? :P

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    32. Re:O RLY by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Correct. It's all in the stylesheet.

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    33. Re:O RLY by eeikka · · Score: 1

      Probably already answered elsewhere, but spamming esc while loading wikipage skips the SOPA banner.

  2. Wouldn't be surprised by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wouldn't be surprised if a Samsung Window would eventually be cheaper than a real window. Where I live that might be the case anyway.

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    1. Re:Wouldn't be surprised by Khyber · · Score: 3, Funny

      So, South Korea?

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    2. Re:Wouldn't be surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It'll just be ad-sponsored (cf: Black Mirror).

    3. Re:Wouldn't be surprised by operagost · · Score: 1

      I don't see enough in the article to say, but this couldn't actually replace a modern window until it had multiple panes filled with inert gas and some kind of low-e coating. Also, making the crystals go opaque will darken the room, but as I understand it this idea was tested with cars and they block the light but not much heat when compared to shades or blinds.

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    4. Re:Wouldn't be surprised by marcroelofs · · Score: 1

      If they put a (transparent) solar panel on the outside they could even get subsidized in many countries. I want a 3 x 4 one (meters).

  3. Re:Samsung's weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're going to get modbombed because Slashdot *hates* when Samsung's copying is pointed out

  4. Wow! by MrEricSir · · Score: 2

    I'll finally be able to see the dust in the back corner of my cubicle!

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    1. Re:Wow! by justforgetme · · Score: 3, Informative

      OMG I had to scroll down 200 "the widget is copied from apple" comments to find a poster actually focusing on the subject! Event if it is an ill fated attempt at being funny.

      Anyway. what I can't get my head around is that:
      If it's working as they say why are they only showing one side of the screen and at that have the screen pointed into a light box with a printed 3D environment wallpaper.

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    2. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were to guess, it's a standard LCD screen setup with the back light and diffuser removed and high quality, optically clear, and slightly different polarizer sheets used. So, it's basically using the outside as the backlight. This means it wouldn't work in the dark.

      They claim that you can't see anything from the other side (which makes the ces video with the blinds kinda funny). Not being able to see anything on the other side means they're probably using some sort of directional polarizer, like a quarter wave plate in front of a circular polarizer (??).

      This is not at all a new concept, but it must be getting cheaper.

    3. Re:Wow! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      You don't need an extra polarizer. Provided it's lighter outside than inside, and the polarizer is on the inside, the image will only be visible to someone on the inside. Unless someone on the outside has polarized glasses, then they'll be able to see your porn.

    4. Re:Wow! by justforgetme · · Score: 1

      Unless someone on the outside has polarized glasses, then they'll be able to see your porn.

      I can see a new market rising!

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    5. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll finally not be made fun of for having a window on the side of my PC case!

  5. Re:Samsung's weather widget by Microlith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, cause there's so many unique ways to lay out a weather widget. Oh, right. Apple exclusively owns any layout they happen to use, and anyone else must use the most inconvenient format and layout they can think of.

    Because Apple is so unique and innovative

    Fucking idiot fanboys.

  6. Cheaper solution by larppaxyz · · Score: 1

    I once peeled most of everything from my ThinkPad laptop display and it became transparent, still fully working. It was pretty cool and i think i still have it somewhere.

    1. Re:Cheaper solution by delinear · · Score: 2

      Apparently standard displays have 5% transparency, this pushes that to 15-20%, so it's still an improvement (and probably less of a power drain during daylight when it doesn't need edge lighting - or not so much - as it can rely on natural light).

  7. Re:Samsung's weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eh, I was just pointing out what I'm sure some already noticed, being tongue-in-cheek more than anything. Genuinely not trying to start a flamewar.

  8. How much do they cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much do they cost? $100 and i will order a dozen

  9. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Looks more like the Weather gadget that comes with Windows 7 (may have been there with Vista beta too in 2005)

  10. Re:Samsung's weather widget by gmhowell · · Score: 1

    Um...the weather widget looks a little familiar, doesn't it?

    How long someone uses a an earlier, similar comment by an AC as 'proof' that you are using sockpuppets and are a paid account?

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  11. Virtual Blinds by EnempE · · Score: 1

    So people from the outside can't see what is on the screen, do they just see black or when you close the blinds are you still in full view of your neighbors?

  12. Vertical touch interface ??? by yvesdandoy · · Score: 0

    Totally absurd !!!

    Use it non stop for 10 minutes and you will see how the cramps in your arms will prevent you from going on !!!

    1. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by martas · · Score: 2

      I don't think this is meant to be used as a primary display for long term sessions, just as a terminal for quick tasks (e.g. see time/weather, check flight schedules, etc.).

    2. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by semi-extrinsic · · Score: 1

      So, you think it's gonna be mostly used like a TV with a few cool (but pretty useless) new features, except that the image quality will likely be worse (since it's a goddamned window), and much more expensive? Not to mention that most homes don't have windows positioned anywhere near the optimal viewing position for a large screen.

      Sounds like exactly what I need for checking my flight schedule... Seriously, that's why we have smartphones, tablets, and the like. The only realistic application for this is businesses that want to look hyper-futuristic, maybe in museums, etc., but this will never make it into consumer's homes. Cf. Microsoft Surface, expect to "see one" (CGI) in the next James Bond movie.

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    3. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by MrBandersnatch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      10 minutes is an over-estimate - my research has found RTC fatigue occurs in as little as 2 minutes. Its funny how this mistake keeps being made over-and-over again...I speculate that it is due to a lack of serious research and the general prescriptions of avoiding fatigue, without understanding the full range of human capabilities, when designing Touch-UIs such as this.

      Anyways yes, for very minimal interactions this concept is great - so much surface area is devoted to glass that I'm sure Samsung is going to have a massive product here, however I foresee the big interest in this being less to do with the interactivity, more with the transparency of the display. Imagine walking down the high street in 2025 and every shop front having animated displays which complement the internal displays. Imaging mirrors where you can try on different colours of make-up, hair shades, hair styles etc; add on some head tracking capabilities and there are some possibly fascinating AR applications.

      The tech seems to be scaling up year by year and they appear to have improved the transparency (its was 40% (?) opaque in 2010) - really an exciting product. Cant wait for it to come on a roll ;)

    4. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Put it in the kitchen and use it for showing recipes, online food shopping, Skype calls, watching TV on while cooking, quickly check emails, etc.. It's a good idea, even if you lack the imagination to see how others might put it to good use.

    5. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by semi-extrinsic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sure, great ideas. My point is not that this is unusable, but that it's gonna be way too expensive for 99.9% of consumers to consider buying one. Especially since the use cases you mention are "this would be cool, kinda".

      Now, to get a very optimistic (as in, low price) estimate of what this will cost: We add up 1 LCD screen of about 40 inches, 16 replacement Ipad digitizers from ebay, and an Atom-powered net-top to run the software and control everything. You end up with $500 for the screen + $800 for the digitizers + $200 for the net-top, or a total cost of $1500.

      Note that this very optimistic estimate, assuming that everything scales linearly and that they are able to sell millions of these and get the same economics of scale as with LCD TVs, gives us an unbelievably expensive way to quickly check your email and watch TV while cooking. Particularly when you take into account that 99.9% of all consumers already own several devices that can do exactly these things. The question becomes "would you rather buy this, or would you buy three Ipads instead"? That is why this technology, while cool, will suffer the same fate as the Microsoft Surface.

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    6. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by delinear · · Score: 1

      You're missing the point of this, it's not a workdesk. Besides, we're at the point where voice control is now feasible for almost all the tasks you'd need this for (with the likes of Kinect, Siri, Google Voice search etc proving the concept). If you're trying to do your accounts or write a novel on this thing you're missing the point (having said that, no reason it couldn't work with a bluetooth keyboard).

    7. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by VoidEngineer · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up!

    8. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to come on a roll ?
      Can't you use a tissue or a sock like the rest of us?
      You're a sick little monkey ...

    9. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by Lussarn · · Score: 1

      There are clearly defined uses. Let's say for a moment you find yourself in a already almost pitch black room. Harrison Ford steps up and says "It's to dark in here". Let's say for the sake of context he's going o do some unscientific test on you about turtles. Just press a button and Harrison is ready to go...

    10. Re:Vertical touch interface ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, you know there are ways of making things cheaper.

      Remove $200 from net-top and have the screen use a main computer or even a mobile phone (like Motorola's Atrix lapdock) with the upcoming wifi display. You know, something you might already have (i.e. a Samsung Galaxy series phone, computer, or tablet).

      $800 for digitizers? Why would I choose the most expensive product to price digitizers from? How about I just simply use finger detection (like on laser keyboards), or many of the other methods for large screen touch surfaces. $50-400 (camera mounted externally monitoring your fingers, kinect-like device, full tuchscreen surface)

      Assume $700 for the screen, as it's newer tech then most LCDs.

      This gives a price range of $750-1200.

      Much more affordable. Once companies start using them to look cutting-edge, people will start paying for it -- even if it's overpriced at $1500. I mean, there are $200-300 tablets out there, put most people insist on shelling out $500 for a basic wifi model from a particular company (and most won't even look at the competition to see what's available)

  13. Finally ? by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    Are we finally getting the spaceship windows and flying cars we were promised for the 21st century ? Or are my hopes in vain ?

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    1. Re:Finally ? by SeaFox · · Score: 0

      I highly recommend this t-shirt for you. I have one myself.

    2. Re:Finally ? by IrrepressibleMonkey · · Score: 0

      Get yourself down the gym lad. Within a couple of months you'll be wearing t-shirts and wanting people to stare at your improved physique, trying to decipher the nerd-text on your chest. You can achieve your ideal you!

    3. Re:Finally ? by vikingpower · · Score: 1, Funny

      Thanks but no, thanks. Sport is for the proletariat.

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    4. Re:Finally ? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      While I do wear shirts with letters and images on them, I can somewhat see where you are coming from. I don't wear shirts where the design is the corporate logo/name of the brand of apparel (Nike shirts), and have even taken to removing the large nameplate label from the back waistband of jeans I buy after purchase (rendering them much less brand identifiable).

    5. Re:Finally ? by kikito · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Sport is for the proletariat"

      That one would look great on a Sports t-shirt.

    6. Re:Finally ? by vikingpower · · Score: 1

      Well, yes, it is the idea that clothing, as anything we use, should be functional; that function dictates form; and that "letters and images" pertain to neither function nor form, in clothing. A three-piece suit, expensive or not ( I have two of less than 150 € ), literally "suits" me well. Call me elitist ? Fine. Being elite also brings responsibilities with it, by which I stand.

      Moreover, there are way too many letters and images around us, already. Going through the city where I live and work, I may not stop reading all day. Most of it ads. Which is bother- and tiresome.

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    7. Re:Finally ? by vikingpower · · Score: 2

      Wearing it, however, would imply the wearer to be so much of a prolete that his being one would preclude him knowing about being one. So there would be one explicit and one implicit self-referential aspect to the t-shirt. Congrats with that intellectual achievement :-)

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    8. Re:Finally ? by semi-extrinsic · · Score: 1

      I both agree and disagree with you.

      I absolutely HATE most t-shirts people wear, particularly those with nonsensical sentences on them, either grammar- or content-wise. I mean, sometimes you'd think they even outsourced design to China... E.g. like this.

      However, clever t-shirts that make me smile, think, or even giggle a little, can sometimes make my day. The shirt linked in great-grandparent I actually quite liked.

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    9. Re:Finally ? by unkiereamus · · Score: 1

      While I do wear shirts with letters and images on them, I can somewhat see where you are coming from. I don't wear shirts where the design is the corporate logo/name of the brand of apparel (Nike shirts), and have even taken to removing the large nameplate label from the back waistband of jeans I buy after purchase (rendering them much less brand identifiable).

      Now me, I'll wear a t-shirt advertising for anyone, so long as it's free, if my clothing meets the minimum societal standards of modesty, what do I care?

      I'll agree, though, that I'll be damned before I pay for the privilege of advertising for a company.

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    10. Re:Finally ? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      I'll agree, though, that I'll be damned before I pay for the privilege of advertising for a company.

      Yup, and unfortunately most labels think you should.

      Funny enough, I own one Abercrombie and Fitch shirt (a blue curdoroy shirt with quilted insulated lining I wear as a jacket) and one Gap label shirt (black wool over-shirt). These are the only two pieces of clothing I own from these types of brands, and I bought both shirts for less than $5 each... at the Goodwill store.

    11. Re:Finally ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better:

      Sport is for hoi polloi

    12. Re:Finally ? by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Guess you can't please everyone. At least window shade tv's are pretty much right on schedule according to Back to the Future part II...come to think of it, where's my hoverboard?

    13. Re:Finally ? by Tekgno · · Score: 1

      The polymaths of the Renaissance would disagree with you. Exploring the full potential of the body was just as important as the mind.

    14. Re:Finally ? by Pikkebaas · · Score: 1

      Being pedantic for its own sake is bad enough, but it takes a special kind of cluelessness to be pedantic while explaining somebody their own joke.

    15. Re:Finally ? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      And then they discovered that 'sport' was a physical and mental aberration that wasted away the body. Just talk to a 40 yr old ex-footballer.

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  14. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by adolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks more like the Weather gadget that comes with Windows 7 (may have been there with Vista beta too in 2005)

    Nah. I don't have an OSX box to play with, but the Windows 7 widget is currently on the right side of my screen, and the screenshots from OP appear accurate: Both Samsung and Apple have widgets that extend beyond the top of a rectangle, while MSFT does not.

    So it looks, to me, more like the OSX widiget.

    But really, who cares? It's not like whoever is responsible for these various computer devices invented the concept of a concise tabular weather display with informative graphics. Folks had been doing that long, long time before before any of this in both print and on TV.

    That the layout persists is more evidence of its perceived usefulness, than it is evidence that it has been flagrantly copied from someone else's creative work.

  15. Foul Ball... by dmgxmichael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Man, those stray baseballs from the backyard are going to get much more expensive... Oh who am I kidding - kids don't play ball anymore.

    1. Re:Foul Ball... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      No kidding. I took my nine year old son and his 11 year old friend out to fly a kite yesterday. It wasn't good. They just wanted to get back to their DSs.

    2. Re:Foul Ball... by delinear · · Score: 1

      Meet them halfway and fly those little gyrocopters you operate with an Android/iOS phone :)

    3. Re:Foul Ball... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Should have put a camera on it.

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    4. Re:Foul Ball... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      We're really close to losing an entire generation.

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    5. Re:Foul Ball... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Excellent idea. At least they'd have to look up sometimes.

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    6. Re:Foul Ball... by nickscalise · · Score: 2

      If that is the first time you took them out, can you really blame them for not enjoying something that they have not done most of their lives?
      I mean when did they start playing on computers? 2? 3?
      When was the first time they flew a kite or saw their dad doing it? Yesterday?
      Not hating, but complaining about kids not enjoying what you enjoyed is really beyond their responsibility.

    7. Re:Foul Ball... by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      the complaint I have is kids sitting like lumps all the time instead of wanting to do something requiring even a little bit of activety. that's very unhealthy. well, at least some video games require jumping and moving arms, let's hope that technology keeps raising the bar in activity.

    8. Re:Foul Ball... by Eggbloke · · Score: 1

      I think that is hyperbolic at best. How will this generation be lost? I used to spend all my time on my gameboy but I am not 'lost', most of my applicable skills come from messing about on computers in my spare time.

      That said flying kites is awesome.

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    9. Re:Foul Ball... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I did, and I could put the resulting two second flight on line if anybody is interested, but the result was not good. All my remote controlled helicopters are out of operation at the moment so I can't do it that way.

    10. Re:Foul Ball... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I do my best. Mainly we go out to do ball games and fly our remote controlled aircraft. Yesterday we attached an action cam to my son's remote controlled car and drove it around. That was pretty good. But they always want to get back to their games.

  16. Wait, just so I understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm supposed to sit down, face out a window, then do what I normally do on the computer?

    DO NOT WANT

    1. Re:Wait, just so I understand by delinear · · Score: 1

      Clearly you don't understand.

  17. Increase Office Efficiency With "Cloud Window" by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

    These windows should look nice with this ceiling together: http://idle.slashdot.org/story/12/01/05/1517243/germans-increase-office-efficiency-with-cloud-ceiling

    Perpetual good weather outside! I feel great, and work better!

    I had to use a link to Slashdot, because Wikipedia Links are, like, so out, today.

    Now my only problem is that I have to replace my broken windows often. Rocks get hurled through them, flaming Native American arrows get shot through them, and even I manage to damage them when plinking with great-great-granddaddy's 'ole Gatling.

    Fix that for me, Samsung.

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    1. Re:Increase Office Efficiency With "Cloud Window" by azalin · · Score: 2

      The solution is already there and there
      Though I might want to recommend using the gatling not on the front porch that often.

    2. Re:Increase Office Efficiency With "Cloud Window" by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Looks like it's going to take more than links to bulletproof glass to save wikipedia. Write your Senator!

  18. Here are a bunch of unique weather app designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Here are a bunch of unique weather app designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that don't look like Konfabulator's and newspapers' from three decades ago:

      Here, FTFY.

      Why the fuck Apple fanboys are so insistent on thinking everything is invented by Apple?

  19. Yo Dawg! by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    I heard you want an interactive display on your wall!

    So we put a display in on your windows, so you can see it while it's still transparent.
    Now when its sunny you can see your Windows with your windows,
    and your neighbors can see you see your display when it's night, but they can't see what you see.

    1. Re:Yo Dawg! by chromas · · Score: 2

      We heard nobody liked Vistas but we put Windows in your windows so you can play flash games with your neighbors while you play Flash games with your 'Friends'. At least, until the cops show up: "This window has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down immediately!"

  20. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

    After a bit of googling it seems as though Apple ripped off the entire Dashboard concept from Konfabulator.
    Contrary to what you may believe, fanboy, Apple are not the epitome of innovation. They'd have gone nowhere if they didn't steal ideas from Xerox (just like Microsoft did). Steve Jobs admitted it himself.

  21. Mandatory Xzibit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yo Dawg we herd you liked Windows on your Computers, So we made your Windows into Computers, So now when you're on Windows you can actually see through the Windows!

  22. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the Konfabulator weather widget. It's at least as derived from and different than that as the OS X widget is.

  23. Since they can't see the image.... by deadtree9 · · Score: 1

    "Yes, your neighbors will talk."

    Fapping to pr0n in front of an open window, I bet they will.

    1. Re:Since they can't see the image.... by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      Not to worry, after a few weeks they stop talking and close their blinds instead.

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  24. Re:Samsung's weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YESSIR, because the absolutely only way to design a weather app is to make it look exactly like the OS X dashboard widget from 2005

    You mean, the Konfabulator weather app design which Apple ripped off for OS X in 1995.

  25. More News by mvar · · Score: 1

    Microsoft sues Samsung for Windows patent infringement

    1. Re:More News by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      > Microsoft sues Samsung for Windows patent infringement

      ...completely undeterred by their unsuccessful suit against Jeld-Wen.

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  26. Re:Samsung's weather widget by gmhowell · · Score: 1, Troll

    YESSIR, because the absolutely only way to design a weather app is to make it look exactly like the OS X dashboard widget from 2005

    You mean, the Konfabulator weather app design which Apple ripped off for OS X in 1995.

    OSX in 1995? Lemme guess, you're one of those HR people demanding 8+ years of Windows 7 experience for current hires?

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  27. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by flimflammer · · Score: 1

    I really hope this is just poor satire and there really isn't someone as retarded as this.

  28. Re:Why hasn't Slashdot gone dark? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    Refugees from reddit may slashdot slashdot.

  29. In pane blinds by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

    These would be great with those blinds inside a double glass pane. The outside window should be simple glass, blinds in between and the inside window a screen. That way you can close the blinds and still see the window.
    Also: this reminds me of IronMan.

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  30. Re:Orchestrated trolling campaign on Slashdot by flimflammer · · Score: 0

    So you thought you'd...what, exactly, by bringing this to light in a completely irrelevant article?

    It doesn't help that I recognize a lot of the names he has posted quite negatively and got the shill vibe from many of them. I don't even like to accuse people of shilling, but some of those accounts post in ways above and beyond what I could consider shilling. The only thing I would say is I'm not sure that it's Microsoft. They certainly engage in a lot of negative publicity towards Google though.

    I'll end this stating I like both Google and Microsoft. Make of that what you will.

  31. They had this 10 years ago. by locopuyo · · Score: 1

    Okay maybe it was more like 5 years ago but I they had an entire house built out of LCD windows to show off the technology. Too lazy to search for a source, just saying this isn't new.

    1. Re:They had this 10 years ago. by bejiitas_wrath · · Score: 1

      What is the point of this? Sure, you could have one window as a giant TV screen, or you could connect it to your laptop and have it as a giant PC screen, but you would not write your thesis by tapping on the onscreen keyboard on your window. You could use this to make the window dark to block out the sun, like those welding filters that auto darken when you spark up the welding arc. That would be very useful for north facing windows. That way you would save money on blinds, if you wanted something actually useful.

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  32. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by gargll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe we should rephrase the proverb “When a finger points to the moon, the imbecile looks at the finger”, into "When shown a new display technology, the imbecile looks at the weather widget design".

  33. LOOK! by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    "And from the outside you just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen."

    And from the submission you just like you are accidentally your sentence as one of the words can't be seen...

    1. Re:LOOK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So i havn't seen anything suggesting that someone outside wont be able to see in. If these new windows can display video, then people will use them for porn. And i dont want to just like accidently someone wacking off to it because they forget that people can see in. If i wanted that i would go to chatroulette.

  34. Re:Samsung's weather widget by kyrio · · Score: 1
  35. Needs to be Bigger by vlad30 · · Score: 1

    The only window I have that small in my apartment is in the Bathroom

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  36. MSPA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone at Samsung reads MSPA.

  37. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not to forget, Apple ripped off their entire name and logo from another company. Don't think Samsung has gone that far yet...

  38. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not forgetting of course that apple didn't steal anything from Xerox. I'll take your Konfabulat point though

  39. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The window itself is seriously awesome. But the weather app is a direct rip-off of OS X's weather widget. There's seriously no other way to design a weather app but how Apple did in 2005?

    Never change, Samsung.

    The Apple Weather app looks like the weather presentation has looked when PRINTED in different Swedish NEWSPAPERS from cirka 1980 (ever since Swedish newspapers started to be printed in colour). Similar weather presentations was used by Swedish Television when it was still broadcasted in monochrome; Sweden switched to colour TV broadcasts in 1970. I'm not claiming it is a Swedish invention, this kind of weather display may have been used and invented in some other country/-ies decades before it become common in Swedish media. I'm just pointing out that there is a much larger and diverse world outside the boarders of the country you live in.

    Just because some "innovation" is brought to the publics attention by some company in USA, that doesn't mean that company invited it. Most (all?) US companies are copycats by nature (and Apple in particular is a pure copyist), usually decades behind how stuff is done in other countries (and usually the US consumer has less to choose from when it comes to different gadgets doing the same thing, differently, US companies like to standardise on one way for a consumer product to work, to avoid that their consumer will get confused (like early automobiles steered by reins), while most companies operatinh outside USA take for granted that their consumers are intelligent enough to understand that different products might achieve the same end result, even if they need to be handled/interpreted differently). Unlike companies in other countries, US companies like to imply that they invented the things they market, even when they didn't. Because the US population like to live in isolation from the (scary/insignificant/...) world outside USA (when was the last time you visited a foreign website? one that was not in English?), US companies can get away with this kind of shenanigans without getting caught.

  40. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    The window itself is seriously awesome. But the weather app is a direct rip-off of OS X's weather widget. There's seriously no other way to design a weather app but how Apple did in 2005?

    Okay, regardless of how Apple prettified the design that originally came to OS X via Konfabulator - this is being overlaid on a window. Here's a novel idea - if you want to know what the weather is like, instead of looking at a weather widget... LOOK OUT THE DAMN WINDOW!

    I remember Konfabulator, I tried it once. I then tried Dashboard after Apple introduced it. Then I noticed that Yahoo! bought out Konfabulator in an attempt to bring the concept to Windows, and now Windows 7 has widgets. Bottom line... they're pretty, but all basically useless. I'd load up one or two, look at them for a few minutes... then never look at them again.

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  41. Re:Samsung's weather widget by gmhowell · · Score: 1
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  42. Does it have rounded corners? by pjabardo · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it has rounded corners apple has already invented the iWindow.

    1. Re:Does it have rounded corners? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Apple did already invent the iWindow...frankly iDon'tCare because this is the coolest thing I've seen in tech for a LONG time. If they try to sue Samsung on this, I may sue them in return. This needs to be out in the market where it belongs. Screw Apple's abhorrent quest for tech domination...

    2. Re:Does it have rounded corners? by arunaaa · · Score: 1

      Yes...If we say Apple is the king of Mobile Phone, so i think it is not wrong.

    3. Re:Does it have rounded corners? by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Yeah but Marty McFly is going to sue Apple before they can even add this to their legal team's inbox. They had these in Back to the Future part II...come to think of it, they're pretty much right on schedule with "tv shades". If only the same were true of they flying cars and hoverboards...

    4. Re:Does it have rounded corners? by Matheus · · Score: 1

      ...and numerous other movies. The prior art is all over the place. The opening scene in Total Recall for example. They're having breakfast in front of one of these windows!

  43. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

    And Konfabulator was nothing more than Desktop Accessories

  44. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then we don't know if Samsung stole the design for the weather widget from Apple. They may have paid to use it, it might be a third party app they installed, it may have been skinned by a freelancer who in turn took his inspiration from somewhere else. The point was about innovation (or lack of) rather than taking ideas without recompense/attribution. Whether Apple had permission to take their ideas from Xerox or not, the point still stands that they didn't innovate, they took an existing idea and polished it.

  45. Combine it with an e-ink display by ThreeGigs · · Score: 2

    Make a tablet with this kind of screen in front of an e-ink display and you'd have the best of both worlds: crisp, clear text with long battery life, or full color.

    1. Re:Combine it with an e-ink display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the same as a standard LCD. You would still have to find a way to provide a backlight. E-ink isn't transparent, so good luck.

  46. your neighbors will talk by clickety6 · · Score: 1

    . And from the outside you just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen. Yes, your neighbors will talk"

    They will indeed talk if you forget that the window is transparent from their side when you're "actively" watching porn on it!

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    1. Re:your neighbors will talk by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Hey, if they have a pair of 3D glasses or polarized sunglasses they can watch your porn with you. Or just wait until you do your banking.

  47. Re:Orchestrated trolling campaign on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    %$@#!

    Dude, let it go. Trolls gonna troll. Hell. My account is on that list, and I don't give a rats ass. An idiot trolling on slashdot with supposition and exaggeration and misinformation presented as concrete facts? This is new.

    There are intelligent people here, people who can hold an excellent argument on just about any position, and show the advantages of that position, and there are people like that. There have been for the 8+ years I've used this site. It's nothing new, get over it and don't join in. It just makes you look like a douche.

  48. Doubt it will work by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These devices look great in the movies but in daily life... well, there are a LOT of people who think tablets will take the place of computers, these thoughtful posts often being written on PC's has of course no bearing on their value...

    The problem is that cost, convenience and usability, just don't measure up. Say I see an email I want to respond to on my window... do I then reply to it on the window? Try it, it isn't nearly as comfortable as it seems. Same with things like the weather, the amount of time really spend checking the weather is very very low and the TV which is already in the house is more then happy to report on it.

    Your early morning routine just doesn't fit a dozen gadgets all begging for your attention. The people who have enough time to spend in the kitchen looking at their window can't afford it (the unemployed) and the people who can, have better things to do.

    It as with the intelligent fridges that have been just around the corner for god knows how long now. People that do the shopping "mum's" are like the soviets, rather then spending a billion dollars creating a pen that works in zero gravity, they use a piece of paper and pencil and call it a shopping list. The early adopters who could afford the early models just don't do shopping that way.

    These widgets all seem nice, as nice as when MS called it Active Desktop, which died. Then Vista something or other, which died and now in Windows 8 again, I am supposed to be looking at my desktop rather then at the program I have opened full screen obscuring it completely.

    Even on a tech site such as this, I am fairly certain that 99% of you life in a house that is no more techie then that of your parents. For that matter, lights turned off by clapping, once the next tech, how many are still around?

    Windows in houses are often the oddest sizes, go ahead, see if what happens if you break one of yours, almost certain a replacement has to be custom made to fit. They are often very large indeed, so that any tech window replacing them, is going to be highly expensive. Until they get within reach of the common geek software for them will be in short supply making them less usable and until companies start working together instead of fighting each other (wanna bet your Samsung Window conspires with your Philips dishwasher to kill off the iPhone?)

    Once I specifically made sure I could watch shows like Beyond 2000. Back then I was young and hopeful. Now I am old and angry I just feel bitter that I still don't have my sex robot... eh flying car. I have come to realize that most of the World of the Future stuff just isn't practical.

    I mean, a weather widget on a window? What is it going to tell me, what the weather looks like outside? I am not interested enough to pay for an expensive screen, the cost of installing it and for that matter getting up to check. I just look at the cat. sprawles on the kitchen floor (hot), on the window sill huddled up (okayish), buried with the wife in a pile of blankets on the bed (nice and brisk (ducks pillow thrown at him) sorry cold).

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    1. Re:Doubt it will work by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      "well, there are a LOT of people who think tablets will take the place of computers, "

      I certainly do, I've been a tablet user since the 90's and Tablets are the way of the future if OS makers get off their asses and actually make things work well. Apple is the FIRST to do so with their iPad.

      My current favorite is my trusty Fujitsu Stylistic 5022 from 2006 It still has better specs than any of the current toy tablets from apple and the android flavors yet runs Linux (I abandoned windows as it's just too bloated and has a very poor workflow for tablet use.)

      Tablets have been around for almost as long as laptops, and many of us have been using them that long.

      The biggest problem is that most PC apps are STILL written by silly programmers that put the UI functionality last.

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    2. Re:Doubt it will work by captjc · · Score: 1

      These devices look great in the movies but in daily life... well, there are a LOT of people who think tablets will take the place of computers, these thoughtful posts often being written on PC's has of course no bearing on their value...

      For 90% of what people normally do on PCs, I believe that they will one day replace a PC. We here are not the majority of computer users. We like programming, scientific computing, electronic design, network administration, alternative operating systems, PC gaming, and any number of other things that require horsepower, lots of memory, multiple monitors, a mouse and keyboard and other things that only a PC can provide. Most people only want to check Facebook, watch funny videos on Youtube, and play crappy "casual" games. A tablet is convenient, portable, and cheaper than a laptop (iPad not withstanding). It will never replace the PC for serious work, but for everything else, a PC is overkill.

      These widgets all seem nice, as nice as when MS called it Active Desktop, which died. Then Vista something or other, which died and now in Windows 8 again, I am supposed to be looking at my desktop rather then at the program I have opened full screen obscuring it completely.

      I don't know what you have against Widgets / Gadgets, but I assure you they are still alive and well. They are useful for conveying small snippets of information that should not need a full dedicated program to access. The fact that they reside on the desktop doesn't make them any less useful. They are designed to stay in the background until you need them, not constantly hovering in the foreground begging for attention. I don't know about you, I do not always need to check the weather but hitting and glancing at the applet is much more handy than opening a webpage to weather.com. There are other, more useful things than a weather applet like system monitors, RSS tickers, email notifiers, Media player remotes, etc.

      I mean, a weather widget on a window? What is it going to tell me, what the weather looks like outside? I am not interested enough to pay for an expensive screen, the cost of installing it and for that matter getting up to check. I just look at the cat. sprawles on the kitchen floor (hot), on the window sill huddled up (okayish), buried with the wife in a pile of blankets on the bed (nice and brisk (ducks pillow thrown at him) sorry cold).

      OK, you are really hung up on the weather widget. Listen, it is a transparent screen. It can be used for anything that a regular monitor can do, but it is transparent. Check out my transparent laptop! Now I can type on my phone and not have to worry about not watching were I am going. Why do I need large TV in the middle of my living room when I can install it on top on my window! Imagine stores with annoying animated advertisements as their windows. The new 2016 Ford Focus now with a Driver's side HUD! Use your imagination.

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  49. Passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eventually you will want to login somewhere.
    Onscreen keyboard ?
    Transparent screen ?
    Hello personal data!

  50. Smudges by radi0man · · Score: 1

    You probably wouldn't be able to see clearly through the window anymore after using the touchscreen display.

  51. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I heard dogs don't understand pointing, so they'll do exactly that (look at the finger).

  52. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Especially since the former is nonsense anyway. A finger is a remarkable piece of natural engineering, the moon is just a lump of rock caught in the gravity of a larger lump of rock. I suppose whoever came up with that "insightful" snippet also thought Leonardo an imbecile for making a study of human anatomy when he could have been out studying granite?

  53. Enlightenment WM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The display looks like it's running the Enlightenment window manager. Samsung is a known, perhaps the biggest, sponsor of the Enlightenment project, which they probably use in some hardware already shipping now.

  54. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

    A bit more googling would have told you Konfabulator was created to add back the widgets features into OS X that people loved from OS9 created by Apple!

  55. Re:Not the best for... by jimshatt · · Score: 1

    Or to anything else, for that matter.

  56. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by CrackedButter · · Score: 2

    You say ripped off when Steve has clearly stated it was in homage to the record label.

  57. What language is this? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    "And from the outside you just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen. "

    I have no idea what the heck this says.

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    1. Re:What language is this? by paladinsama · · Score: 2

      "And from the outside you *look* just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen. "

      They accidentally a verb.

    2. Re:What language is this? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 3, Funny

      "And from the outside you just like you are tapping your window as none of the graphics can be seen. "

      I have no idea what the heck this says.

      Oh come on, it's completely transparent!

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  58. Tony Stark's phone anyone? by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

    Now they just need to resize this down, integrate it into a telephone and you have Tony Stark's see-thru smartphone from Iron Man 2! Cool ;)

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  59. I hope you... by Luthair · · Score: 1

    like cleaning windows of smudge marks.

  60. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by andydread · · Score: 4, Informative

    You forgot one little detail there. Apple music sued Apple for stealing their name. So Apple Music was not amused by that "homage" cock and bull story from Dear Leader Steve.

  61. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sure, but Apple Computers settled the ripping off of Apple Record's name with a consent agreement that Apple Computers would never enter the music business, and of course Apple Computers is always true to their word...

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  62. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Right... and Chinese "bootleggers" are clearly just paying "homage" to well known designer labels!
    What Jobs said is clearly bullshit. What he actually DID was all about the Benjamins, no "homage" intended.

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  63. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Locke2005 · · Score: 0

    And Microsoft didn't steal anything from Apple, either! "What comes around goes around..."

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  64. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

    The woman in the video says "I feel like I'm in Minority Report ... and that's ... pretty awesome!"

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  65. What ??? No nerd talk? by guus_deleeuw · · Score: 1

    I think I'll use my kinect and display naked women over all passerby's.

  66. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by andydread · · Score: 1

    Given that Dear Leader Steve said that "good artists copy great artists steal" Given that the Ipad "shamelessly copied" this device and this device

  67. Re:Samsung's weather widget by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 1

    For a headsup, the bonch account and Overly Critical Guy accounts are sockpuppets operated by the same organization. See this post and a previous post I've made here for evidence that these user accounts are used to push the same script, sometimes even copy/paste versions of it.

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  68. It might be better ... by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 2

    ... if, instead of just appearing to be a window from the outside, you could project scenes of your own choosing to the outside world. The possibilities for mischief tantalize.

    1. Re:It might be better ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some ideas:
        * Blue Screen of Death?
        * apartment block: everyone shows a 'chunk' making up a huge image

      Hahaha - matter of time before Windoze the OS muscles its way into this Windows the View. Or will Messrs Sam and Sung only be making a DISPLAY unit, so I can hook it to Linux, Mac, or maybe even that old IBM360 I keep on keeping in the basement?

    2. Re:It might be better ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some ideas:
      A home fish tank, complete with whales and dolphins.
      A flock of birds sitting on the other side of the window, and flying around inside.
      A jack-in-the-box setup with the doorbell, where a mutant pulls back the curtain and just sits there, glaring at the person.
      Cats (or dogs) wearing costumes of your family, pacing back and forth on their hind legs.
      A recorded video "reflection" of your yard in different weather (rain when it's sunny out, a sunny day when it's snowing out, etc).
      The whole room, upside down.
      Conspicuous police surveillance of other nearby houses.
      Farm animals wandering freely.

    3. Re:It might be better ... by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      You could do themes.
      One of my favourites would be a group of zombies milling about, looking in....

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  69. Ow, my rotator cuff! by paiute · · Score: 2

    I know that a big translucent touch sensitive screen floating in the room is visually stunning, but has anyone thought of the consequences of having to use one for any long period? Waving your arms around and having your arm elevated for longer than a few seconds is hard on the shoulders.

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    1. Re:Ow, my rotator cuff! by robbert.cox · · Score: 1

      I know that a big translucent touch sensitive screen floating in the room is visually stunning, but has anyone thought of the consequences of having to use one for any long period? Waving your arms around and having your arm elevated for longer than a few seconds is hard on the shoulders.

      Agree!! Imposibble to use for longer periods.. Looks more like Samsung is trying to draw social media attention to talk about the brand than a really practical use..

    2. Re:Ow, my rotator cuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Cause one would think that our shoulders had evolved to support the heavy labor and lifting that humans had to do for millions of years before the 1800s came along.

      But yeah, tapping on a window will probably cause injury.

    3. Re:Ow, my rotator cuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why interest was lost for fixed touch screen displays, I KID YOU NOT, in the 1960's when they first came around.

  70. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by RicktheBrick · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow! Instead of looking out the window to see what the weather is like we can now look at the icon on the window to see what the weather is like. I think that soon we will replace windows with video monitors and cameras anyway. It would result in more security and less energy use. I can just see people with ocean views living far away from the oceans. All we need is a monitor that will last a hundred years or so.

  71. Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine if they could make one of these seamless and large enough to cover the entire space of a full wall window. I could see this being a nice alternative to a dry-erase board in a school, where the desks all face the big windows and the teacher can type things on a handheld keyboard then just drag them around the display. The kids would be looking out the windows all day, seeing natural sunlight instead of a board lit with florescent lighting.

    I wonder how it works at sunrise and sunset, when the sun is setting and everything turns orange, I wonder how much that would affect the color?

    If the sun were to line up with the window, could the lcd polarize the light enough to block out the sun to protect the eyes of the person using it? As in, how effective are those blinds? If extra polarization were required, how much would that affect the image on the screen?

    Would a transparent photo-voltaic film be able to power the whole screen if it were built in?

      If it truly is one-way, imagine having one of these in the shower, pull up an article or a video and maybe have some kind of head tracking so the item you're looking at will move with your head.

  72. Total Recall by Tyr07 · · Score: 1

    I've always wanted something like this. Eventually I can have a house with a huge open facing digital window system like this and project places other than my neighbors. Suddenly I can have a beach front home!

    1. Re:Total Recall by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Yep. Graeme Garden (The Goodies) designed one of these. Normally a set of venetian blinds which can be opened up to show any static image and even a TV. Circa 1975.

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  73. Re:Samsung's weather widget by kyrio · · Score: 1

    "Hey guys, let's all link to Wikipedia when you can't access it without being a huge faggot."

    Also, you're a huge faggot.

  74. Energy efficiency by Spodi · · Score: 1

    I didn't see anything about energy efficiency - or how well this "window" compares to modern windows with holding in heat. There are also other issues like trapped moisture (and the resulting mold), which would be far worse to see in this kind of window. Wouldn't think it would be too hard to lay it on top of your existing windows, to get the best of both worlds, but then you're still dealing with the cost of both (and good windows are not cheap).

  75. some architects won't like this by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    My daughter is currently in an urban design class. She has severe dyslexia so I read the materials to her, which gives me some familiarity with all her classes. The architects featured in this class seem to be most concerned about the usefulness of the perimeter of buildings, wanting us to abandon flat featureless walls for the porches and doors and windows -- permeability, they called it -- that were popular before WWII. Although I disagree with some of their philosophies, (I am violently opposed to brutalism, for instance) I agree with this.

    So a horror slideshow from their standpoint would be commercial and private buildings with utterly blank walls that end flatly against the property, isolating the residents inside and making the space outside useless except for traveling away from the hulking building. And sadly, there are many examples of that, both for commercial businesses and for private residences.

    It occurs to me that technology like this would make that type of design even more likely. If you could put a "window" anywhere, showing any type of scene, what do you care what's actually outside? [1] I know, you can sit this on top of a real window, but I wonder how often that will be done in real life? In an age where all the up and coming adults have been trained since grade school to live with ear buds inserted and head lowered to a 4" display, what chance do us old fogeys who remember fresh air and open views, have, to convince them that houses should have access to the outdoors?

    [1] Except, I suppose, from a security standpoint, although there's hardware and software solutions for that.

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    1. Re:some architects won't like this by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      If you could put a "window" anywhere, showing any type of scene, what do you care what's actually outside? [1] I know, you can sit this on top of a real window, but I wonder how often that will be done in real life? In an age where all the up and coming adults have been trained since grade school to live with ear buds inserted and head lowered to a 4" display, what chance do us old fogeys who remember fresh air and open views, have, to convince them that houses should have access to the outdoors?

      Reminds me of Asimov's description of Trantor in the first story of the Foundation series, where most people went years without venturing out to a roof of the composite building that covered the entire surface of the planet. Asimov wrote some commentary on this subject into story, but I think even he did not foresee the degree to which people would become attached to their devices.

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    2. Re:some architects won't like this by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Now that you mention Asimov, I'm reminded of an early short story called, I think, "It's such a beautiful day", about a society with some kind of instantaneous inter-building transportation that works so well that nobody has ventured outside for decades. I had forgotten that part of Foundation. Apparently it was something Asimov thought about often.

      The McGuffin was some kind of trans-dimensional door, necessary for it to be considered science fiction, but you could see where this could happen in real life. Living in a Le Corbusier Ziggurat with giant 4K screens on your rough, poured-concrete walls showing outside views from anywhere in the world and anywhere in time, working in a different Ziggurat in your exquisitely planned community, taking underground rail from home to work to various entertainment kiosks to watch whatever the entertainment moguls care to show you, trudging from mass transit to destination with your earbuds planted and your head down, staring at a four inch screen... You might never venture outside.

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    3. Re:some architects won't like this by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Bill The Galactic Hero by Harry Harrison (1965)
      The planet-city of Helior is another example.

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  76. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    Not forgetting of course that apple didn't steal anything from Xerox.

    Actually, Apple didn't steal it. Jobs licensed it from Xerox in exchange for Apple stock.

    (Apple also improved on it because the Xerox Alto didn't have overlapping windows ,and Woz came up with regions to handle updating overlapping windows. Woz subsequently got in a plane crash (in his Piper) and told Jobs (who visited him in the hospital) that he still knew how to do regions. Later, when Woz talked to Xerox, he found out that no, they didn't handle overlapping windows at all. So Woz got a patent on it)

  77. Amazing! by Translation+Error · · Score: 2

    Now we can finally see what the weather's like by looking at a window!

    Really, of all the applications they could have chosen for the main picture, they pick a weather forecast?

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  78. Condensation by hey · · Score: 1

    Then there is condensation and mildew.
    Maybe if its on top of the real window it could work for some limited purpose.

  79. Forty percent chance of rain my ass... by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    "Look behind you, Mr. WEATHERman!"

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  80. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Of course....while it sounds great.... It completely contradicts what Steve Wozniak has to say about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFdX29mVrxA

    This story is also more in line with the stories that I was reading back in the mid 90s on this very topic, though leaves out some of the details of those stories that told of how much trouble they were having coming up with a name.

    Overall, I am more inclined to believe the real engineer turned teacher over the salesman/visionary type.

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  81. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Or what I should have said is...your interpretation contradicts the story. Never once in that video does Jobs say that this is where the name came from.

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  82. Wikipedia's fine. by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    The point was that linking to Wikipedia won't work because it will just return a black page.

    I've been using it all day with no issues, no black pages.

    Maybe it knows I've already called my congresscritters? Jeepers!

    (Or maybe it's because I don't run javascript by default)

  83. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by badran · · Score: 2

    iTunes.

  84. Really guys? Think outside the box for once. by Whiternoise · · Score: 1

    People seem to be missing the fact that this is damn cool and instead are posting inane offtopic rants about Apple vs Samsung, the widget design (is it really relevant compared to the tech?) and even SOPA.

    I think this would be really cool somewhere like the shower if it could be made waterproof. I do a lot of my thinking there, solving programming problems, etc. Having a screen that I could touch and draw on would be really useful.

    Essentially this is getting into the realm of smart glass everywhere. It could be put on mirrors to let you 'try on' outfits before you wear them, it could be on oven/microwave doors to display cooking information (I'm a metrics geek) and the list goes on. You could also just have a pane of glass stuck onto a wall - a truly invisible. When you turn it off, it just looks like the wallpaper. Just because it's on a window doesn't mean it *has* to be on a window outside - the technology, to me, is a transparent display which is much more interesting.

    PS - the whole point of a weather forecast is that it's a forecast. You look out of your kitchen window and the display tells you what it'll be like in 6 hours including the temperature. Weather widgets are no more pointless on a window than they are in every single smartphone that seems to tout them.

  85. Re:Really guys? Think outside the box for once. by Whiternoise · · Score: 1

    And yes, ambient light may be a issue, but it would still work where you just needed some differentiation between background and stuff on top. Remember that to see your walls they have to reflect light - you're just blocking it. Same goes for mirrors.

  86. Durability? by 200_success · · Score: 1

    I don't think you would want one to replace your window, but one mounted just inside it would be awesome. Windows are often subject to extreme temperature differences, moisture, dirt, and stresses. You wouldn't want to have to call in a building contractor to replace it when it breaks. Not to mention, windows also need to have good heat and sound insulation, which are probably not going to be provided by a display.

  87. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks, Captain Obvious.

  88. Re:Samsung's weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Apparently "huge faggot" actually means "someone who has proved kyrio wrong so conclusively as to cause him to lash out in a sad effort to pretend he's not shrieking in humiliation like the little bitch he knows himself to be".

    Well, it certainly is shorter.

  89. perfect for living above a dystopian hellscape. by retchdog · · Score: 1

    Is this to be an empathy test? Capillary dilation of the so-called blush response? Fluctuation of the pupil, involuntary dilation of the iris?

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  90. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by X0563511 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a chart. How many different ways can you display it? There's only a few, so no matter what they did they'll be "ripping off" someone.

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  91. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Tuan121 · · Score: 1

    You're right, they should patten the design to show a 5 day week with the temperature....

  92. porn.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would make watching porn with "blinds" open very interesting.

  93. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

    I always heard dogs understand pointing unlike wolves which is offered as proof of how they are a species rooted in human domestication.

  94. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's this iTunes you speak of?

  95. Re:Samsung's weather widget by kyrio · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you're definitely a little bitch. Too much of a bitch to post with your account.

  96. I have been following Transparent OLED for a while by John+Sokol · · Score: 1

    This is just the next generation of Transparent OLED's that I have already posted about.
    http://videotechnology.blogspot.com/2011/08/transparent-oled-screen.html

    Here is my post from CES:
    http://videotechnology.blogspot.com/2012/01/ces-2012-transparent-samsung-smart.html

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  97. Re:Samsung's weather widget by rgbrenner · · Score: 1

    If you compare weather widgets before and after the iphone, you can clearly see that everyone is copying Apple's design.

    Look at how similar Samsung's is to Apple's today, and compare that to the common design before the iPhone.

  98. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by Gumbercules!! · · Score: 1

    That's a nice story, without any actual facts in it. Woz had nothing to do with the Mac project at all and was still involved on Apple II while the Mac was being worked on . The overlapping windows concept, achieved by clipping windows, was created by Dan Engalls, from Xerox on SmallTalk, long before Jobs and Co walked in their door. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taouu/html/ch02s05.html

    Apple managed to duplicate this through the efforts of of few engineers on the Mac team, who actually came over from Xeorx PARC.

    Additionally, Raskin was the key driving force behind the Mac at Apple before Steve Jobs even knew the project was being worked on. Jobs is credited with a hell of a lot of things that he really had very little to do with, until the project was already well underway (and yes I know this is beyond the scope of your comment). He did have a great eye for simplification but he was also a complete arsehole of a human being and routinely took credit for other people's work. He didn't actually invent the iPod, the iPhone, the Mac, the Apple I or II, etc, etc. About the only thing that was his from the start was the Lisa. Read the Biography by Walter Isaacson: it's a fascinating read about a complex human being who wasn't actually a very nice person, wasn't technically proficient himself at all yet still does deserve a lot of credit (but no where near as much as he does get) for many things we know and love about computers today.

  99. But why? by melted · · Score: 1

    Why would anyone want retarded shit like this? I mean, seriously? Who has windows this small? How much would it cost if it were the size of a real window? And even if it was remotely affordable, why? It will never be as good as a window at light transmission, and it will never be as good at showing images as a real display.

  100. Re:I have been following Transparent OLED for a wh by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    Great links. Thanks!

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  101. Re:Weather app is a rip-off of OS X weather widget by adolf · · Score: 1

    Because the view through the window will totally tell me what the weather will be like tomorrow!

  102. Theft by Artea · · Score: 1

    So instead of burglars breaking your window to steal your gadgets, do they just steal your window?

  103. interesting if by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you play scenes from horror movies on the outside. that would freak neighbors out

  104. Office work by nayazgrace · · Score: 1

    If it is better definately it i will work in many companies

  105. Life by dewexdewex · · Score: 1

    Had one for a while, but kept burning my legs on the radiator.

  106. I would be pissed off by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

    If a day after I install my new Samsung Window some kid hits a baseball through it.

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