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What To Do With a 1,000 Foot Wrecked Cruise Ship?
Hugh Pickens writes "What do you do with a 1,000-foot wreck that's full of fuel and half-submerged on a rocky ledge in the middle of an Italian marine sanctuary? Remove it. Very carefully. Stuck on a rocky shoal off the Tuscan island of Giglio, leaving the wreck where it is probably isn't an option but removing a massive ship that's run hard aground and incurred major damage to the hull involves logistical and environmental issues that are just as large. First there's the fuel. A half a million gallons of fuel could wreak havoc on the marine ecosystem — the ship is smack in the middle of the Pelagos Sanctuary for Mediterranean Marine Mammals. Engineers may need to go in from the side using a special drill to cut through the fuel tanks in a process called hot tapping. 'You fasten a flange with a valve on it, you drill through, access the tank, pull the drill back out, close the valve, and then attach a pumping apparatus to that,' says Tim Beaver, president of the American Salvage Association. 'It's a difficult task, but it's doable.' Then if it's determined that the Costa Concordia can be saved, engineers could try to refloat the ship and tug it back to dry dock for refurbishing. The job will likely require 'a combination of barges equipped with winches and cranes' to pull the cruise liner off its side then once the Concordia is off the rocks, 'they are going to have to fight to keep it afloat, just like you would a battle-damaged ship.' Another alternative is to cut the vessel into smaller, manageable parts using a giant cutting wire coated with a material as hard as diamonds called a cheese wire in a method was used to dismember the 55,000-ton Norwegian-flagged MV Tricolor. Regardless of how the Concordia is removed, it's going to be a difficult, expensive and drawn-out process. 'I don't see it taking much less than a year, and I think it could take longer,' says Bob Umbdenstock, director of planning at Resolve Marine Group."
It's the only way to be sure.
.... it may not advance the salvage process any but hey it can't hurt. This guy was the anti-Sully by all accounts. I wouldn't abandon passengers in my automobile after an accident; this guy is responsible for thousands of souls and abandons them to save his own ass. Pathetic.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Wait until a storm takes it down to 90 meters below surface, that's what they do at the moment.
And you can go on the ride where you pretend to be the captain who was thrown from the ship which lands in the water unharmed.
Life takes interesting turns, but the most interest is when you're off the beaten path.
"What do you do with a 1,000-foot wreck that's full of fuel and half-submerged on a rocky ledge in the middle of an Italian marine sanctuary?" I do like these hypothetical questions, but we never get to see if they actually work in real life, so I've stop thinking about them.
These comments are my personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the other voices in my head.
Then set it up as an artificial reef, and have businesses set up to get divers to it. Not sure the decontamination would pay off in the near term, but it'd be an interesting option.
Turn it into a water-cooled data center.
Plan A:
1) Pump all the fuel out of it.
2) If there is a hole in the down side of the hull patch it from the inside.
3) Patch any holes on the top side of the hull.
4) Get as many pumps as possible pulling water out of the thing. while you gradually inflate large air bags under it.
5) Ship pops back up, tug it anywhere you want.
Plan B:
Hundreds of millions of ping pong balls.
worked for the mythbusters...
Right the ship, drain the fuel and leave it there. You only have to stop it from sinking, you don't need to make it seaworthy. There you have it, a top-notch hotel in a prime location with every facility you could possibly need.
Just try not to think of the people that died there. People die in hotels all the time, right?
+1 IDisagreeSoHeMustBeATrollOrAnAstroturferOrAShill
Can't they just burn it? Can't they just drill a hole in the tanks and throw in a match to burn it? Then they can just wait until the fire goes out and it's all safe! If it takes too long for the fire to go out they can just spray sea water on it to put it out.
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The ship capsized away from the damaged area. Secure the vessel. Weld a big patch over the damage (and optionally over the rock if it can't be removed), and over any other holes they've made during the rescue operation and then refloat the thing. It can be towed anywhere after that.
And then pump out the water in a controlled manner. If done in a controlled manner the ship should just flip back the way its suppossed to.
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-03/ff_seacowboys?currentPage=all
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Pump it full of expandable foam. It will re-float. Then tow it to the yard, make repairs.
Despite the actions of the captain the odds of surviving this incident were about 99.2%
If he had gone down with the ship I have to wonder if it could possibly get any better than a 99% survival rate.
Clearly the people involved in the evacuation, even without the management of a ships captain, were very capable.
While responsibility for the ship and the passengers remains on his shoulders of the captain I wonder if the idea of the captain going down with the ship has become a bit antiquated.
Considering the dramatic success of the apparently well trained and well drilled crew in getting the staggering majority of people off of the boat safely it seems to me that a captain urging them on is, at least in this case, a frivolity and a hearken back to a possibly bygone conception of the role of a captain of a vessel.
Let's patch 70 meters long hole.
Some of the hole submerged with the object (come called it ship) lying on unstable surface near the real oceanic deep. 20 meters from the ship start's really deep sea.
And after you're all done righting the ship and making it seaworthy, you can advertise haunted ghost cruises. Costa Concordia Corpse coming to theaters near your in 2014!
from wikipedia:
"The chief drawback to residual fuel oil is its high initial viscosity, particularly in the case of No. 6 oil, which requires a correctly engineered system for storage, pumping, and burning. Though it is still usually lighter than water (with a specific gravity usually ranging from 0.95 to 1.03) it is much heavier and more viscous than No. 2 oil, kerosene, or gasoline. No. 6 oil must, in fact, be stored at around 100 F (38 C) heated to 150 F (66 C)–250 F (121 C) before it can be easily pumped, and in cooler temperatures it can congeal into a tarry semisolid. The flash point of most blends of No. 6 oil is, incidentally, about 150 F (66 C). Attempting to pump high-viscosity oil at low temperatures was a frequent cause of damage to fuel lines, furnaces, and related equipment which were often designed with lighter fuels in mind."
As I see it, it could be preferable to try and salvage the ship and tow it away, as long as the fuel inside is not a big problem, due to the winter temperature; it's also stranded not too far away from docking facilities as the crow files.
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This is used in the pipeline industry when you need to put a new port or hole on a pipeline but don't want to shut it down.
Here is a little video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJoImbxSMFE
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Your forgot that you need to heat the fuel to 60 C in order to pump it...
From Pearl Harbor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCxjgZ1IOa8
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
The ship is listing on its side and the breach is above the water and easily accessible. Get some welders in there and patch it up? Then just pump the water out and right it up. It should hold at least long enough to get it to a ship yard for disassembly.
Debunker (pump out) the fuel from cruise ship to bunker barges. From there they can either:
1. Cut the vessel into easier to handle parts and load the still quite large size parts onto a vessel designed for carrying other vessels like the ones from Dockwise. The parts will then go to a scrap yard.
2. Attempt to float the vessel using buoyancy bags to where if could be either loaded on the Dockwise ship or onto a portable dry dock where it can be disassembled.
Seriously a year to remove the vessel? Accidents like these aren't a rare occurrence, there is a whole cottage industry that handle these situations.
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The ship is 290.20 meters long. Please post also the measurement in meters since this unit is used by the whole world expect in 3 countries.
Build a coffer dam around it and pump it out to make a dry dock.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
Commonly used for pipeline repair, it can involve welding a pipe flange to a full, even pressurised line or container of flammable liquid or gas. The trick is not to blow through the wall. The product cools the container side of the weldment. A cutter head is attached then connected to your equipment of choice. Mechanical connection of hot tap flanges is also done.
http://gs-press.com.au/images/news_articles/cache/FurmaniteHotTapGraphic-0x600.jpg
http://www.professionalmariner.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=46E64A4C77774A5684F286CF18FCD2F8&nm=Archives&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=5762266029234C438FDE435B61BEFE08
It can even be done on BURNING railroad tank cars to offload product. WaPo link in this thread no workee but the others are good. Check the procedure in the .pdf
http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=59857
Example equipment:
http://easy-tapper.com/
Flooding to "float" petroleum for recovery:
http://recyclingships.blogspot.com/2011/11/grounding-off-coast-of-tauranga-last_12.html
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http://cruiseradio.net/dutch-company-hired-for-salvaging-process-of-costa-concordia/
(to the tune of "Drunken Sailor")
What do we do with a washed-up cruise ship, (x3)
Early in the morning?
Suck out the fuel 'til she rolls right over, (x3)
Early in the morning.
Lock up the captain with Big Bubba (x3)
Early in the morning.
Steal all the swag and give to the poor (x3)
Early in the morning.
(There's a few verses, make up some more of your own - it's a folk song after all.)
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No matter what's planned the end result is a tiny boost to Italy's GDP - and they need it.
Nate
Wasn't there a James Bond movie where a sunken ship in, what was it, Tokyo Harbor was used as headquarters of MI5's Asian division?
The damn thing was designed to float. It's not like nobody knows how to do it. Thanks to the Captain, it's so close to shore you could build a drydock (cofferdam) in place if you had to. Once you secure the hull and pump out the fuel the thing will pop up like a cork. You don't have to right the ship to tow it to a place where you have the equipment to do the rest safely and efficiently. It could be done inside of two weeks, but won't be because they will be fighting with the insurance company for the next 2 years instead.
I bet the Televising rights for this salvage operations is huge! Both Discovery and National Geographic would want an exclusive on this.
It has been a long time since I have seem someone so throughly pwned on /.
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
They have proven it time and again. Prove me wrong.
Animation illustrating the concept.
OH, what shall we do with a 1000ft cruise ship
what shall we do with a 1000ft cruise ship
what shall we do with a 1000ft cruise ship
Early in the morning!
- joking aside:
1: refloat
2: unload/empty
3: dismantle or;
4: tow to wrecking yard
Same thing they did for the Napoli in 2007 off the coast of south Devon see this article
They may not know how to clean it, but for sure, they'll know how to make the problem "go away", and even report profit on that same quarter.
If you just leave it, I'm thinking people will steal it one piece at a time. That is Italy after all.
1) Pump the fuel out to ensure it is relatively environmentally friendly.
2) Cut out the damaged portion of the hull and load onto barges.
3) Carefully drill and blast the rock into manageable portions for removal.
4) Weld plates over the hole.
5) Refloat and send for refit.
6) Sell off parts of the damaged hull as souvenirs - like the Berlin wall or moon rocks in order to recoup some costs.
7) Invite all the passengers back for a reunion cruise!
Reality though is securing the vessel to ensure that the ship doesn't slip into the sea and become a huge problem then. Removing the fuel can cause numerous problems related to bouyancy and weigh distribution. Tethering should be attempted first to ensure the safety of workers trying to salvage the ship. Tides, storm surge, waves all have a way of "easing" the ship into deeper water. You don't want salvagers to become part of the tragic tale.
Just build a space elevator and then connect a cable to the ship and the space elevator will pull the ship upright.
A salvage expert (former CEO of the leading company in that field Smit Tak) says it can't be done in the following Dutch newspaper article (google translated):
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fm.trouw.nl%2Farticle%2F15%2F3126744%2FIn-stukken-zagen-dat-is-enige-optie.html&act=url
I found some interesting pictures of the MV Tricolor. I tried to find a video of the cutting process in action but failed. Does anyone know how this "cheese wire" actually works?
I smell a Disney theme park in the making...
Blow it up right where it is! Michael Bay would probably pay them to be able to do that.
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to a 300 meters Wrecked Cruise Ship.
. . . apparently, this process had already been started on the bridge of the ship before, during and after the accident . . .
. . . "Bang a Moldavian Bimbo in the Brothel on the Bridge" . . . it would definitely sell . . .
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Put it out on the curb on recycle day?
There was a Disney cartoon where either Mickey or Donald raised a sunken ship by pumping ping pong balls into the ship. Disney even patented the idea. A while ago the Mythbusters proved that the idea actually works.
Mythbusters. That is all.
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Because clearly one should disagree with it!!! ...wait a second.. ..
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First you snag all the bottles of booze that are more than $80/bottle.
Then you raid the wine and grab all the expensive stuff left there there.
I'm sure there's plenty of good stuff that's left unbroken.
If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
It just needs to float a bit to move it somewhere more practical.
Here we have a problem, a foundered ship. If the owner declares bankruptcy and walks away then who is responsible for clearing this wreck? Corporations create new corporations to do their business operations. The child corporations constantly send profits up to the parents, while carefully retaining all liabilities. They maintain just enough assets to keep the credit lines open. The moment something goes wrong, the child corporation sends any remaining assets back to the parent. It does not declare bankruptcy promptly. It waits for the claw back period to elapse, and allow enough time for the parent corporations to shuffle money further afar so that it can't be clawed back from the parent corp or even the grandparent corp either.
Such business practices are actually the most logical and rational thing to do in a free market. They will argue if they do not do that, their competitor would do it and undercut them. It is a tangible ship wrecked off a beautiful island this time. But in countless instances it is pollution created by mining or industrial chemicals are as stranded as this wreck. But somehow the public falls for extreme arguments like, "Eliminate EPA".
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Why is this whole shit even newsworthy? the onl news is a cruise ship ran aground, some passengers died, and its gonna cause some environmental issues. All this gossip shit about the captain tripping, showboating whatever, is not news.
He is Italian.
This is exactly what the world should expect from this joke of a country. They allowed an openly corrupt big media owner to run their country for years and years, scandal after scandal, all because it gives them gossip to read in their own language.
lazy broke-ass motherfuckers
I know, I know, at first blush, it sounds insane - Nuclear Reactors in a *passenger* vessel? Wouldn't that be a worse environmental disaster in a shipwreck?
But, there's a guy named Rod Adams who started a company (which he had to shutdown a few years ago because of lack of investor confidence) who proposed using small, nitrogen cooled pebble bed reactors in cargo and cruise ships.
Pebble Beds actually have several advantages over anything else I've ever heard of for maritime propulsion:
* They are melt-down proof. They simply can't melt down.
* They are very, very unlikely to set on fire (they are made from a special grade of graphite which needs to reach insanely high temperatures to set on fire - temperatures which the pebbles physically *cannot achieve* from fission.
*The fuel "pebbles" have further containment - the fuel itself is contained in many small 'particles' embedded within the graphite sphere, where the uranium fuel itself is encased in fireproof silicon carbide, inside the graphite.
Worst case scenario: The ship loses some or all pebbles in the water. Water is a great radiation shield - a few meters of water will stop all radiation. So, in essences, you have some fairly hot (temperature-wise) "pool balls" on the seabed, heating up some of the nearby water a few degrees. The actual radioactive material is so contained it will not leak out into the surrounding water.
Much, *much* better than the petroleum fuels currently used in cargo and cruise ships. Plus, the ship would only need to be refueled once every few years, and the fuel would be a lot cheaper than the many millions of tons of petroleum fuel these ships currently consume over time.
Go here to read of the 'Tricolor' effect as a target: 2003 Cargo Nightmare M/V Tricolor Laying on the bottom, full of BMW, Volvo and SAAB autos, the Tricolor was run into repeatedly. Oops. tom
Can't they just alternate between reverse and 1st gear to rock it out? It works for me in the snow...
Drain the fuel, set it upright, patch it up, tow it to Atlantic City - Profit!
(Drop it Lake Mead - Profit!)
(Park it outside Boston - Lawsuit!)
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Returning the ship to use as a cruise ship will be extremely costly. Any portion of the ship which has been submerged is ruined. Salt water will have destroyed any electrical and mechanical systems. Carpeting will have to be removed. Wood items will be swelled and warped. In essence, the submerged portion of the ship will have to be stripped back to bare metal.
That is after underwater welders have slapped a 160 foot long patch over the opening, all the now-underwater openings are blocked and the water is pumped out.
The ship still has salvage value, but it would be a long and very expensive operation to restore it as a cruise ship. It is likely more financially feasible to cut it up for scrap.
As a person that lives on a boat, I can tell you that the hull is one of the least expensive parts. It is the interior and the systems that make up the major portion of the cost of a boat.
You could always just pump it out and leave it there like they did with the MS World Discoverer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Discoverer
I think this documentary film shows an easier way to lift the ship off the rocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyN9ojKYVIU&feature=related
Most cruise ships already have the necessary supplies on board.
Air France Flight 447 is believed to have gone down due to icing on the pitot tubes. Auto-pilot would not have helped when the computer was getting the same faulty airspeed readings as the human pilots. Computer geeks have a term for this: Garbage in, garbage out.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
When you've just made a half billion dollar blunder as photogenic as smoking towers—having brazenly flaunted persistent criticism from your past superiors concerning your grand-standing character flaw, now immortalized in a black box of no possible Gingrichian evasion—I think even for a person of normal heroism, the urge to slink into a dark lifeboat might be nearly insurmountable whatever your official duty.
Call it PTSD: post-traumatic shame disorder. I wonder how well the hero's hat fits over top of donkey's ears.
A borderline case concerns the Gimli Glider, which earned the pilots both a court marshal and a medal.
These pilots weren't showboating to cause the accident. I'm sure that helped when heroic measures were called for.
It's his hour of dithering over the evacuation order when no-one else had the authority that's really going to cook his goose. I bet his inner dialog during this hour sounded a lot like Humbert Humbert desperately seeking distance from a psychological reality to heinous to confront.
I think they should take the oil out and leave it there as long as possible until it sinks below the surface. Then salvage, turn into a reef or divers amusement park.
In the good ole days car wrecks were prominently displayed on side of public roads to serve as a warning.
I say not only keep it but spend time and money to secure it in place as long as possible.
why not remove the fuel and then sink it to make a reef
Ship for sale... Title: Salvage; Damage Type: Water damage/ hull damage :)
Futurama did it first!
>repairing the ship would be the most cost effective solution
Not after they get through blowing holes in the sides to recover bodies. Good luck getting that vesssel certified to carry anything but ping-pong balls after multiple detonations in the underwater structure...
Clean it out and fill it with ping pong balls and float it off the shoals. Then tow it back to drydock.
Worked for Adam and Jamie when they tried it.
Just think of all of the ping pong ball manufacturing jobs created!
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Why wouldn't you attempt to patch the holes in place, re-float it. Keep the fuel where it is to use on the way back to port for permanent repairs. It's not like the ship broke in half. There is just a gash down one side.
Since moving it will cost them too much they should turn it in to a hotel! Who doesn't want to sleep in the of the worlds most expensive mistakes?
This is a Mac, what you have there is an embarrassment to your fellow computer users.
They'll buy anything!
What he's saying, as a marine salvage expert (the term is "salvor", incidentally) is that there's no way to recover and repair the vessel that he can think of. This job has been given to Smit Salvage, which has a long list of successful salvage jobs. They already have 35 people on site and are getting ready to remove the fuel oil.
It's a tough business. The usual deal is "No cure, no pay", following a long-standing standard contract, the Lloyds Open Form. There are a long list of tricks in marine salvage, developed over the last century. Some require huge equipment, here for the USS Cole.
There are techniques for dealing with big ships. There's underwater patching, giant pontoons, and filling interior spaces with inflatable bladders or even ping-pong balls. Worst case, the ship has to be cut up.
As salvage jobs go, this one is big, but not all that bad. It's in a good climate, near land, in the Mediterranean Sea. (Not the Arctic, not a war zone, not winter North Atlantic.) The ship is unoccupied, not on fire, and mostly above water. It's not blocking an important waterway, so there's no rush. Could be worse.
The first steps are underway - figuring out the buoyancy and stability situation, and preparing to remove the fuel oil. Then there will be a decision - refloat, or cut up in place?
The plan displayed at the bottom of this National Post article. (after the part where the captain gets in trouble)
But then, he's like Italian and honestly, they have a great track record for being cowards.
I'm reasonably sure you are being a wise ass here but nonetheless, here's a real Italian. I don't think that guy can be branded a coward.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
i've recently been informed there is a "hole in the bottom of the sea" which i'm sure needs to be filled somehow.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Birkenhead_(1845)
The ship was wrecked at Danger Point near Gansbaai near Cape Town, South Africa.
The discipline of the troops on board allowed more survivors than would have the regular "everyone for himself" bit.
If nothing else, having given the command the was sinking a multi-million dollar ship that was under his command, he should have been trying to act the hero to cover his ass. Surely he knew there would be an inquiry and could figure that ever little thing would be looked at in that inquiry. He was not in any danger staying on the ship. Even if everything was going well and passengers were all off, you'd think he would have stayed on board just for appearance sake. That way when the inquiry hit, he could have stated he was being the hero and making sure that the safety of the passengers and crew were his first consideration even if he was really just standing around doing nothing.
What do you do with a sunken cruise ship?
What do you do with a sunken cruise ship?
Earlye in the morning!
Waaaay haaay and up she rises
Waaaay haaay and up she rises
Waaaay haaay and up she rises
Earlye in the morning!
Put it on ebay. It'll diappear.
After taking the fuel, fortify the seat under it with water resistant cement.
Make it stand up and have a bridge into it.
Make a modern museum/entertainment park.
It is way too complicated and costly to repair all.
And it is already morally deprecated in many eyes anyways.
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This is slashdot, the obvious answer is to "Put linux on it".
Just calculate the level of flotation needed to float each square foot..ie let's say that a square foot has100 feet of steel bulkhead above it.. how much air would need to be under it to float it? Then build enough flotation devices to place under the entire ship, pump 'em full of air and float it away.. could easily be done in a year. Simple in theory, difficult, but not impossible in practice. Done.
In a free market economy, government (specifically the court) is an enforcer of contracts between entities and of property rights. Barring a "cruise ship license holder" responsibility to clear any wreck as unnecessary regulation (I don't), as national governments are responsible for their coastal waters, they could easily require insurance or even a bond to be posted for any cruise (cargo, sailing, etc.) ship which enters their territory to cover such costs. A violation of this law would expose the captain of the ship to heavy civil fines (or criminal penalties) as well as the operator company ( equal to at least double the bond required).
Insurance companies which fail to meet the obligations of their policies should have their corporate veil pierced and the shareholders (or parent company) become liable for the policy.
To me, this is not unnecessary regulation, but enforcing contractual obligations.
Not after they get through blowing holes in the sides to recover bodies. Good luck getting that vesssel certified to carry anything but ping-pong balls after multiple detonations in the underwater structure...
Please, get real. They're not firing torpedos into the thing, they're using cutting charges. Little strips of shaped charge explosive, sized to cut clean-edged holes through the hull plating. It'll be easy for a salvage team to weld temporary patches over those holes, and easy to permanently repair them later.
Piddly little holes like those are nothing next to what the rocks did. There's a 50m long gash (that's half a football field!).
The ship's pretty close to Italy, so it's probably been siphoned off already.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
they could easily require insurance or even a bond to be posted for any cruise (cargo, sailing, etc.) ship which enters their territory to cover such costs.
Yes, they could. But the industry lobby group will rail against the "onerous" regulation and the burdens that are killing the jobs. Lunatic libertarians would claim everyone has the right to ply the waters and requiring the bond is a penalty imposed before committing any crime. They argue if they damage the reef you could sue them but not before. Eventually, there will be no regulation.
It is interesting you talked about the cruise ship and notably silent about the stranded costs of cleaning up after the mining operations, chemical spills, pension obligations, liability due to bad products etc. Technically the government could require sellers to post a bond/insurance to take care of the cost of disposal of all hazardous consumer products from lead-acid batteries to mercury file CFLs to toxic substance filled electronic goods. Would you agree theoretically that is correct? Or would you join the crowd asking for the dismantling of EPA?
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Your question was about clearing the cruise ship wreckage. If you're going to move the goalposts after your question was answered, it becomes clear you are more interested in being right than discussing the topic at hand.
Such business practices are actually the most logical and rational thing to do in a free market. They will argue if they do not do that, their competitor would do it and undercut them. It is a tangible ship wrecked off a beautiful island this time. But in countless instances it is pollution created by mining or industrial chemicals are as stranded as this wreck. But somehow the public falls for extreme arguments like, "Eliminate EPA".
(Emphasis added now)
You chose to ignore it.
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