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Speech-Jamming Gun Silences From 30 Meters

MrSeb writes "Japanese researchers have created a hand-held gun that can jam the words of speakers who are more than 30 meters (100ft) away. The gun has two purposes, according to the researchers: At its most basic, this gun could be used in libraries and other quiet spaces to stop people from speaking — but its second application is a lot more chilling. The researchers were looking for a way to stop 'louder, stronger' voices from saying more than their fair share in conversation. The paper reads: 'We have to establish and obey rules for proper turn-taking when speaking. However, some people tend to lengthen their turns or deliberately interrupt other people when it is their turn in order to establish their presence rather than achieve more fruitful discussions. Furthermore, some people tend to jeer at speakers to invalidate their speech.' In other words, this speech-jamming gun was built to enforce 'proper' conversations."

370 comments

  1. Big Brother is speaking by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Silence, peon. Your must wait your turn. And not yell. If you speak out of turn or too loudly, you will be muted.

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    1. Re:Big Brother is speaking by prettything · · Score: 2

      or not, will these be available to all? i love this continuing boom in stuff designed to stop other peoples doin legal stuff, it complements the stuff they make to stop other peoples doing stuff that they have managed to make illegal. awesomes!

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    2. Re:Big Brother is speaking by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      I can see this coming from Japan, there is a speaking etiquette that is being eroded due to modernization and the current generation losing older established traditions.

      In other news had it come from the US I'd say it violates my freedom of speech. Insert rim shot.

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    3. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 2

      I disagree. Yelling and interrupting others has no place in a democracy where decisions are made by rational, respectful debate and letting all voices be heard. Guests with dissenting opinions on the Bill O'Reilly show could sure use one of these devices.

    4. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Tom+Womack · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This strikes me as an almost perfectly cliched Japanese technical solution to a social problem: you cannot accept the loss of face that would be involved in telling your minion Mr Akusake to shut up indicating that you do not have the degree of control over Mr Akusake that your relative positions would indicate, or the unspeakable loss of status that would be implied if you told your minion Mr Akusake to shut up and he didn't, but you can point the shutting-up machine at him and cause him to shut up.

      Loud people dominating conversations is undeniably an actual social problem, and this is an actual technical solution to it.

    5. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Defenestrar · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Silence, peon"?! Dude, think of the children! I mean seriously, think of the awesome power of this tool when used on children. Screaming in the back seat? Being asked a third time for candy before dinner? Grocery store tantrums that everyone notices? Not anymore!

      This is probably the best parenting tool to come along since the willow reed or the TV!

      On another note - this thing looks like it could be bypassed with the simple expedient of plugging your ears while speaking. If you wanted to get all technical with countermeasures, it'd be interesting to see what constructive interference does to mute the loud inconvenient person

    6. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      line up here to get whooshed

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    7. Re:Big Brother is speaking by vencs · · Score: 1

      Silence, peon. Your must wait your turn. And not yell. If you speak out of turn or too loudly, you will be muted.

      why can't the peons union buy one and use it?

    8. Re:Big Brother is speaking by camperslo · · Score: 1

      Remember "What if you had no lips from which to speak?"? Seems like they had those beat in The Matrix. They surely would be a tempting thing to use before elections. Mute some of the nonsense and lies. And do away with paid political ads. Raising money for those fuels corruption. Controlling fundraising has failed miserably. Cut the major avenue for spending instead. Stations should provide some free balanced public affairs programming time to inform the public. They can decide how much. The licenses should carry an obligation to act in the public interest. Protect free speech, not paid speech.

    9. Re:Big Brother is speaking by mdsolar · · Score: 1

      "You know Billy, what worries me is how your mother is going to take this."

    10. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah - the new Obama Re election pledge I see.

      Resistance is futile
      You will be silenced

    11. Re:Big Brother is speaking by RulerOf · · Score: 2

      They surely would be a tempting thing to use before elections.

      It would be particularly effective if you had a copy of the speech beforehand. That way, you could selectively mute words or phrases to take the speaker out of context in a way that only political advertisements can do now, but in real time!

      I could seriously use one of these. I have a boss with a monstrous disability: he is incapable of shutting the f**k up.

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    12. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Okay, all of you fess up -- how many times have you aimed a TV remote at someone an repeatedly hit the "mute" button? The Japanese just fulfilled a lifelong dream for many people.

    13. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Silence, peon. Your must wait your turn. And not yell. If you speak out of turn or too loudly, you will be muted.

      In America, if it ever got bad enough that they used this on us, we'd mute them in an entirely different fashion. Preferably from a rooftop.

    14. Re:Big Brother is speaking by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know. I've been using a similar technique when charing i.e. a rump session at a conference.

      These sessions typically have lots of speakers that only get 5-10 minutes each. If they don't strictly stick to the time limit, the schedule will fall to pieced in no time flat.

      So instead of being an asshole and shutting people up in a negative manner, I picked up a trick from (Mike Reiter I think). I start the session by asking the audience to please chime in when I stand up and whistle/applaud when the presentation should end. The idea being to make so much positive encouraging noise that it becomes impossible for the speaker to continue. Works great.

      So in that setting I'd be willing to give the silencer gun a try. It sounds as it could be worth a laugh or two.

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    15. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This only works by exploiting the "stutter effect". You could learn to ignore the echo pretty fast. Or just wear headphones connected to a directional mic. You could hear others then, but not yourself. And you can still talk when you can't hear your own voice. See the movie "The King's Speech" for an example of how this works.

    16. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 2

      I hope you're kidding. Your post ("Mute some of the nonsense and lies" and subsequent replies are all exactly what we DO NOT WANT. Sure, it would be great to silence the "nonsense" coming from the opposition. And that's exactly how they feel about you. If you have the ability to silence someone else's speech because you think it's nonsensical or untrue, what on earth makes you think that only you will be able to do that, and only those whom you think should be suppressed will be suppressed?

      No, I hope our society never reaches the point where it really is technically possible to silence someone who says idiotic things. First they came for the Republicans and I did not speak out because I was not a Republican...

    17. Re:Big Brother is speaking by sixtyeight · · Score: 1, Funny

      SSiIlLeEnNcCe, pPeEoOnN. YYoOuUrR mMuUsStT wWaAiItT yYoOuUrR tTuUrRnN. AAnNdD nNoOtT yYeElLlL. IIfF yYoOuU sSpPeEaAkK oOuUtT oOfF tTuUrRnN oOrR tToOoO lLoOuUdDlLyY, yYoOuU wWiIlLlL bBeE mMuUtTeEdD.

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    18. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Nehmo · · Score: 1

      Interrupting is poor etiquette, but it has recently gained popularity as a form of protest. Basically, the new method is an advancement over single-party heckling. At a public speech, on some cue, several members of the audience (who previously collaborated) recite a speech of their own in unison, thus, drowning out the main speaker. So far, I haven't seen this technique employed for a worthy cause.
      In any case, the device at issue would be inadequate against multiple hecklers, and I question if it works at all. It simply re-broadcasts a speakers sounds at a delay. I would have to see a demonstration to be convinced.

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    19. Re:Big Brother is speaking by TankSpanker04 · · Score: 1

      ...think of the awesome power of this tool when used on children. Screaming in the back seat? Being asked a third time for candy before dinner? Grocery store tantrums that everyone notices? Not anymore!

      This kind of thinking makes me afraid for children. I have 3 kids of my own, ages 8, 5, and 1. Believe me -- I fully understand how tempting it would be to, if I had this tool, turn the volume down on whining, fighting, yelling, etc.

      The problem is using this tool against children is open to extreme abuse. Remember that movie Click with Adam Sandler? The concept there is he had a remote that could fast-forward through parts of his life deemed unimportant. Imagine what would happen if parents could "mute" their children whenever they wanted to. I'm sure it would begin with good intentions as Sander's character did in the movie. But it would quickly turn into an addiction.

      The worst part is the potential psychological effects it could have on children later in life. They would learn to devalue their own voices and opinions. Self esteem would suffer. The effects would mirror that of other forms of child abuse.

      I'm sure this technology can be useful for a lot of things but please don't even suggest the idea of putting into the hands of parents. Most of them wouldn't be able to handle it ethically, and children would surely suffer.

    20. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In America, if it ever got bad enough that they used this on us, half the country would cheer about it happening to the opposition while the other half screams about the injustice. Use of the device will remain unaffected.

      I've seen typos before but damn you screwed up most of that sentence

    21. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Jessified · · Score: 1

      The idea of having a mute button for loud mouths is eerily appealing. Hopefully they make one in remote control form.

    22. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Jessified · · Score: 1

      Also, if it's legal to use this against members of a crowd, would it be illegal to use it on the politician or speaker standing at the front?

    23. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is probably the best parenting tool to come along since the willow reed or the TV!

      Only if one is fucking moron who has no clue how to raise a kid. Hint: grocery store tantrums = big, bright, flashing neon sign indicative of failure to parent.

    24. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      Depends, if you pinch them or otherwise trigger it right - you can move up to the front of a very long line thus getting home sooner for more quality time where you don't have to explain the tabloid headlines or pictures ;)

      People do realize this is tongue-in-cheek, right? Well mostly...

    25. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason Parliamentary Procedure was created was just this, NOISY ASSHOLES can completely stop reasonable discussion, and they do. You can scream all you want and no one will hear the people trying to debate points logically with rational data. EX: The "Think of the Children" crowd does this all the time, when they can not win via logical argument they begin shouting their emotional arguments., mostly with no basis even in fact.

      So, which would you rather have? A world run by the loudest asshole or some level of Parliamentary Procedure, arbitrated by the silence gun?

      Your choice, no you can't have a little of each.

      So far on Slashdot mostly what I see is the former.

    26. Re:Big Brother is speaking by TrailerTrash · · Score: 1

      I want one of these for my next flight.

      Using a cell phone after the door is closed and the flight attendant told you to turn your phone off?

      Five year old loudly announcing their boredom every 30 seconds?

      and the best...

      Pilot refusing to stop announcing that on the left is the Grand Canyon, what the ground wind speed is at our destination, and giving a special welcome to our frequent fliers?

    27. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next "they" came for the Democrats, and since I was a Democrat and "they" agreed with me about the goal of supressing all politically incorrect speech, "they" joined in the quest to surpress all politically incorrect speech, regardless of its truth...

    28. Re:Big Brother is speaking by jamesh · · Score: 1

      Loud people dominating conversations is undeniably an actual social problem, and this is an actual technical solution to it.

      Yes there is nothing wrong with a technical solution to a social problem if it works. It's only when it doesn't work (eg nearly all the time) and you have to enforce the technical solution with ridiculous laws and then further technical solutions that it's a problem. This doesn't seem to have any of those shortcomings yet but I'd need to try it out on my kids to know for sure ;)

    29. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      correct me if I'm wrong, but are not you the loud inconvenient person in that scenario?

    30. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, but I doubt hearing a child screaming is going to stop a child from screaming. Maybe it would even encourage him.
      I don't really know how effective this technology is, but it seems like something that works by distraction and so would only have a moderate success rate. Once people became aware of and accustomed to them, their effects might well be much further diminished.

    31. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      That was when my coffee was wearing off. I did to that sentence what Paris Hilton did to modern music, and for that I apologize sincerely.

    32. Re:Big Brother is speaking by camperslo · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not for censorship by any means. Although with some of the ads repeated over and over, the mute on a remote is still handy. But being heard should not be about money. I believe that reform is needed so that broadcasters provide equal-access to candidates and do various balanced interviews and debates with community involvement, as part of their public affairs programming at no charge. Doing away with paid radio/tv political ads would reduce the extent that candidates have to accept money from those expecting favors. Even candidates with the best intentions often need the money from some they're rather not deal with, just to pay for ads. Ending those would put a big dent in the cash cycle that fuels corruption. I have not heard of any other viable approach to addressing the problem. Broadcasters would continue to be able to decide on their own how much public affairs time they make available. If they provide very little or behave badly in general, they should be at a greater risk of people challenging license renewal and perhaps lose the license to another applicant. I think it would be a good idea to bring back the regulation where licensees specify in the license/renewal application what the maximum number of commercial minutes an hour will be, and how much community service time they'll provide per month. Under the old rules, they could exceed the number of ad minutes two weeks per year. That was typical before elections and the December holiday period. When the rule was lifted, we got intense ads all year long, and the dreaded infomercials. Ad time on U.S. television in the 60's was about 9 minutes an hour, now its typically 18 to 20. Competition was supposed to force good behavior, but it didn't work. That's partly because of the lifting of ownership restrictions. At one time the limit was 7/7/7 AM/FM/TV for a single owner nationwide. It became essentially unlimited... thousands. We've all seen what has happened to quality, ad time, the amount of local news, investigative reporting, programming, and exposure for local musicians. Increasing the number of owners, and making a large percentage local owners would increase competition, and the diversity of views represented, better meet local needs, and reduce the amount of duplicated news coverage and canned stories passed off in place of local news. Just as with the banking industry, some rules are needed to protect the public. When the rules come off, greed often takes control and we all suffer.

      With the courts giving corporations unlimited spending as some sort of personal free speech right, and campaign reform never amounting to anything, ending the paid media mess appears to be our only hope. It'll put both the public and the candidates on a more level playing field. Of course don't expect the media to even speak of such a reform. People would likely be fired for even mentioning it. But we should. Democracy functioning properly depends on us being equally heard, knowing what is going on, and knowing our candidates. It shouldn't be something that is bought or sold.

    33. Re:Big Brother is speaking by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Remember "What if you had no lips from which to speak?"? Seems like they had those beat in The Matrix.

      Was that some plagiarism of Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" ? (1967, IIRC)

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    34. Re:Big Brother is speaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1. I immediately thought, "how easily would this be defeated simply by wearing earplugs?" Note that you can still hear yourself quite well when wearing earplugs.

  2. Let me say this about it ... by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    "This is totally ....."

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    1. Re:Let me say this about it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big Brother's cat got your tongue?

    2. Re:Let me say this about it ... by Phreakiture · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Having read how it works, I can tell you that being focused is enough to overcome this. It doesn't drown you out; it doesn't mute you. What it does is return your words to you about 200ms later so that you are dealing with a terribly strong reverse echo. This has a psychological effect on the speaker.

      By focusing, you can overcome it. I know this for a fact, because, as an A/V tech and DJ, I have spoken into a PA system that had a compressor on it, which compressor introduced about the same amount of delay. Even as I watched other people struggle with it when it was their turn to speak, I had no problems taking the mic and speaking, as long as I focused on what I was saying and ignored the feedback. (For the record, I used that compressor exactly once. It wasn't intended for PA use, but for broadcast, where the latency wouldn't have mattered.)

      If you can keep yourself focused on what it is you have to say, you can overcome this quite easily.

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    3. Re:Let me say this about it ... by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I wonder if they probably licensed Slashdot's filter for use in this gun. If not, that's prior art, baby!

    4. Re:Let me say this about it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like DAF machines that stutters sometime use.

    5. Re:Let me say this about it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the squeamish could simply use earplugs or headphones to block out the feedback. Talking while listening to loud headphones is a bit awkward, but it certainly doesn't stop some of the more annoying friends I know from doing it.

    6. Re:Let me say this about it ... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      I agree. I used to do amateur radio satellite voice contacts and I too would have to deal with the echo. At first it was disconcerting but eventually I just ignored it. The newer radios have a feature that mutes the headsets when you pressed the talk button. However the radio I had was quite ancient and I used the feedback to adjust for doppler.

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    7. Re:Let me say this about it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm, 200ms is an awful lot of delay for even digital compression to introduce

  3. Oooppps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And suddenly, an entire generation fell silent...

  4. Obvious use by wisty · · Score: 1

    Schools will want them.

  5. Dolores Umbridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That excerpt reads like a Dolores Umbridge quote.

    1. Re:Dolores Umbridge by lymond01 · · Score: 3, Funny

      If it's important enough to say, it's important enough to carve into the back of your hand.

  6. Umm by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, here's the technical implementation:

    The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker. This triggers an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you might’ve experienced the same effect if you’ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). According to the researchers, DAF doesn’t cause physical discomfort, but the fact that you’re unable to talk is obviously quite stressful.

    What's to prevent someone from simply speaking louder to talk over the "jammer"? Why wouldn't this be the target's first reaction? Wouldn't a delay of 0.2 seconds sound just like an echo?

    There's also the fact that this is highly targeted (no shutting up entire audiences) and doesn't actually create "silence", just cacophony.

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    1. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's to prevent someone from simply speaking louder to talk over the "jammer"?

      [fingers in ears] LA LA LA speech jammer what? LA LA LA [/fingers in ears]

      This sounds to me more like a 'remote microphone/amplifier'. Figure out a way to ignore the DAF and isn't that all it really is?

    2. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The targeted speakers can just use earplugs to not be distracted by their own echo.

      It's not like they listen to anyone anyway.

    3. Re:Umm by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Having worked with different types of audio equipment my entire life I can assure you that this effect is real.

      However, depending on the delay it might not "shut you up" completely. It can make you slur or not be able to form words. You can get stuck on a single syllable because your brain says you haven't finished it.

      So, no, it doesn't sound just like simple feedback or echo.

    4. Re:Umm by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Interesting. I worked phone support for a company, and their systems would occasionally do this. The delay was anywhere from a fraction of a second to a couple seconds, randomly for each call it happened to. It is really, really annoying, but I always assumed it made me stop talking because I was trying to be polite to the customer and when I hear a voice from their end, I'd stop and listen.

      It took me about a week to learn to just keep talking when I heard my own voice, and not someone else's.

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    5. Re:Umm by KhabaLox · · Score: 1

      I would love to try this, just to experience it. I wonder if it is more effective than simply broadcasting a reverse wave-form of the person's speech (like noise cancellation head-phones)?

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    6. Re:Umm by rainmouse · · Score: 2

      The effect can throw someone and confuse them. Most people are already nervous enough about public speaking, I can see how this would shut up disruptive people (or silence honest opinions) in a televised debate. It's not too dissimilar to tricks sound engineers can use to screw up live performances. either putting a delay on the feedback monitors or silencing them altogether is a way to really make even a very talented signer into a laughing stock. This is a cheap technique very readily used to humiliate over-confident people on televised talent shows to prop up ratings.

      On a side note the linked article seems more like a tabloid driven, sensationalist, speculative rant than being in any way informative, accurate or scientific.

    7. Re:Umm by readin · · Score: 1

      That doesn't sound terribly effective. I remember trying a phone that similarly delays your speech at one of those hands-on children's museums. The first time you try it it does make you stop. But you quickly realize that if you ignore your own voice you can continue talking. You need to take an extra second before you speak (to plan out or memorize your sentence), but then you just say the whole thing instead of relying on audible feedback.

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    8. Re:Umm by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Funny

      I used to do this to co-workers at the music store I worked at many, many years ago. Make a bet that they can't say the alphabet, put a set of headphones on them, run it through a digital delay set to 150 ms or so, then sit back and listen to them sound like a speech-impaired two-year-old. :-)

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    9. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's to prevent someone from simply speaking louder to talk over the "jammer"? Why wouldn't this be the target's first reaction? Wouldn't a delay of 0.2 seconds sound just like an echo?

      Better question:

      What's to prevent the person being silenced from approaching the person with the gun, removing said gun from their hands, and ramming it through the jammer's teeth? Even at the full 100-ft range, the jammer taking off running to escape the incoming very-angry speaker would quickly lose the favor of any available audience, especially if two or three people have already been "silenced" in this manner.

    10. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A reverse wave-form will cancel out the sound in a specific location/area, this causes the speaker to stop speaking or at least have great difficulty.

    11. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens if you're wearing noise-cancelling headphones?

    12. Re:Umm by Kagato · · Score: 1

      Japan has had disruptive (think far worse than the US Tea Party) since the 1950s. Usually they are ultra-nationalist and far right parties. When they are mild they are just yelling and screaming at street corners and town meetings. When they are their worst they have vans with loud speakers where they drive around spewing their vitriol and generally annoying everyone around. I'm sure this device (albeit misguided) is the answer to that.

    13. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It works - I play this game with my kids from time to time. Just when they open their mouths to start to say something, I mimic the same sound about a half-second afterwards. They never even get the whole word out before shutting up.

      However, it's easy to train yourself not to be affected by it too. One of my co-workers has a bad headset, so I can hear myself talking over the line with a slight delay. At first it made me stop, then it just irritated me. Now I've learned to ignore it and just speak right over any noise I happen to hear, whether it's my own delayed voice or someone else trying to butt-in. Now I'm the champion of the conference call!

      So yeah, you're right. it trains people to speak louder and stop listening. Kinda the opposite of the intention. (there's that pesky "unintended consequences" law again...)

    14. Re:Umm by gammaxy · · Score: 2

      Also, the reverse wave-form will have areas of constructive and destructive interference that are difficult to predict and control in an area with lots of reflections, so the speaker will still be heard, and in many cases actually be louder because you added energy to the signal. The size of these areas of interference is related to the wavelength of the sound and it is possible if one ear is in an area of destructive interference, the other will be in an area of constructive interference.

    15. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having worked with different types of audio equipment my entire life I can assure you that this effect is real.

      Having once worn earplugs, I can tell you that it this technology is very easily defeated.

    16. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the "fix" for people yelling is to turn the area into a jumbled mess of out of synch amplified yelling?

    17. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My question would be how do you not get feedback in this kind of a system. That has to be an incredibly directional and sensitive microphone to pick up someone from 1-100' away, pipe sound back and not just be amplifying its own output.

    18. Re:Umm by KhabaLox · · Score: 1

      Ahh, of course. That all makes perfect sense.

      it is possible if one ear is in an area of destructive interference, the other will be in an area of constructive interference.

      That would be interesting to experience too.

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    19. Re:Umm by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      So, here's the technical implementation:

      The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker. This triggers an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you might’ve experienced the same effect if you’ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). According to the researchers, DAF doesn’t cause physical discomfort, but the fact that you’re unable to talk is obviously quite stressful.

      What's to prevent someone from simply speaking louder to talk over the "jammer"? Why wouldn't this be the target's first reaction? Wouldn't a delay of 0.2 seconds sound just like an echo?

      There's also the fact that this is highly targeted (no shutting up entire audiences) and doesn't actually create "silence", just cacophony.

      It's annoying, but that's about it in my experience. When an iPhone user calls my home phone, she gets a ~0.3-0.5s delayed echo back. When I've been the person on the iPhone it was a fatiguing experience that made it difficult to hold a real conversation. On the other hand, one can learn to ignore the echo with a little willpower. For some reason only iPhones seem to have this problem.

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    20. Re:Umm by Nehmo · · Score: 2

      I'll have to try it too; I'm skeptical. I'll put something together to make a 0.2 second delay and output to headphones. Can anybody recommend some software that already does (or can be configured to do) this?

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    21. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this state of the art technology will be bypassed by something kids learn at a very young age: You can still speak when you have your fingers in your ears...

    22. Re:Umm by pjbgravely · · Score: 1

      I think Pulse audio could handle this nicely. Actually Audacity will probably do this for you.

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    23. Re:Umm by pjbgravely · · Score: 1

      Strange as the same process is used as a treatment for some stutterers. Link

      I like your sig. My saying is "It's not who's wrong or right, but who pays their lawyers the most".

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    24. Re:Umm by kubernet3s · · Score: 1

      No. That's the point is that if you begin speaking, when confronted with an immediate replay of your voice, your instinct is to STOP speaking. It interferes with your ability to monitor your own speech based on what you hear.

      And you are right, but like no one else on this board seems to get, the point is not to FORCE people to stop speaking, but to prevent them from speaking out of turn unconsciously. People who talk in libraries, and people who interrupt during conversations, more often than not are not doing so because they believe they have every right to interrupt, or disturb people around them, but because they temporarily forget that they should not be speaking. If you are consciously trying to interrupt someone when they are speaking, this will not help. If you are constantly interrupting them because you get carried away and are thinking faster than the conversation is proceeding, this will help both you and your conversational partner tremendously.

    25. Re:Umm by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      I'll have to try it too; I'm skeptical. I'll put something together to make a 0.2 second delay and output to headphones. Can anybody recommend some software that already does (or can be configured to do) this?

      Sure, the lousy conference call system we have at work anytime somebody has a speakerphone unmuted. I can assure you the effect is quite real. I go to run a meeting and want to rip the hair off of my head trying to talk sounding like a drunkard while hearing my voice echoing back 1/4th of a second later. Fortunately said software also has a mute function on individual lines controlled by me if I'm running the meeting, and visual feedback on which line is causing the problem...

    26. Re:Umm by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      I was chatting with a guy who used to be an engineer at a phone company. They were digitizing phonemes and had the problem that fast speech couldn't be processed quickly enough. So, they just put a slight delay (much less than this) on the sidetone channel. Apparently by tuning the delay they could make somebody talk as fast or as slow as they wanted to.

  7. Is this new? by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Conventional firearms have been effective at silencing speakers for centuries. Do we really need this?

    1. Re:Is this new? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes. In places outside of Texas this is not yet accepted as a method of ending a casual conversation.

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    2. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah like in say DC (highest in the nation btw).

    3. Re:Is this new? by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Well, in all fairness, that thing is much to big to fit in my holster.

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    4. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what she s....

    5. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've clearly never been to a Saudi wedding.

    6. Re:Is this new? by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 1

      Yes. In places outside of Texas this is not yet accepted as a method of ending a casual conversation.

      I'm reasonably sure Texans would disagree with you, but it's better you don't try to find out. I would miss you too much.

    7. Re:Is this new? by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      Is it merely the presence of the gun that does it or does it require the use of a bullet?

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    8. Re:Is this new? by J'raxis · · Score: 1

      Yes. Well, governments do. Governments shooting people leads to massive negative PR---and if they do it enough, uprisings and revolutions.

      So over the past few decades, governments have developed all sorts of "non-lethal" technologies to control and oppress their subjects. Tear gas, pepper spray, tasers, the "Active Denial System," and now this. People just don't get as upset over this kind of non-lethal violence, and so governments can get away with oppressing people pretty much indefinitely.

    9. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what she said.

  8. see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If conversation fails, people escalate to violence.
    If bigbro wields this against the masses, a riot's going to erupt. Might as well go straight for the teargas and flashbangs.

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    1. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except this isn't about the conversation, this is about people trying to drowned out the conversation.

      Screaming at someone while they are trying to talk is not a conversation.

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    2. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Hatta · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's exactly what they want. They want to drown out legitimate debate. When the people involved in that debate revolt, they get to bring down the hammer on them. And then they get to smear their political enemies as lawless.

      This is exactly what we saw them do with OWS last fall. But this time the muting is literal, instead of using a media blitz to drown out the real message with confused ones.

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    3. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not really.

      If you've ever been in a discussion where, lets see, say, part of the group was motivated by political or personal interests and ... oh lets just make something up... maybe the rest of the team was ummmm technical in nature, and just wanted to solve the problem... and didn't care if Johhny's cousin sponsors a great product that we could hack into our system vs actually chosing the correct technology...

      very often when logic and actual reason fail, people resort to loud repetition... see the concept of branding (a marketing concept) if you don't believe me, its a billion dollar industry based around brainwashing people by loud repetitive messages.... with no bearing on you know... reality.

      This is a tool.

      The same way a SWAT team is a tool.

      both can silence voices.

      both have appropriate uses.

      its up to us to be responsible, and if we can't then we deserve to burn.

    4. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by iamgnat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except this isn't about the conversation, this is about people trying to drowned out the conversation.

      Do you really think this technology won't be abused to silence disenting opinions in a conversation even if it is being delivered in a calm and well thought out manner? I don't buy into the "big brother" mass usage, but stuff like this is ALWAYS abused.

      Hell, the RIAA will probably want to use it at concerts to prevent people from "violating their IP" by singing along...

    5. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Yetihehe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Silencing guns don't silence people. People silence people.</sarcasm>

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    6. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Well, everyone let it happen with the Tea Party. They didn't really like the Tea Party message, so the left let it be drowned out by accusations of racism and violence.

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    7. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      If bigbro wields this against the masses, a riot's going to erupt.

      But it will be a silent riot. Now they only need to find a way to selectively block sight and, to all practical purposes, the riot will stop existing.

    8. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by jittles · · Score: 2

      Silencing guns don't silence people. People silence people.</sarcasm>

      You're absolutely right. The gun has no reason to want to silence anyone or anything. Only people would have a motive to silence other people.

    9. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      very often when logic and actual reason fail, people resort to loud repetition

      Sounds like every protest group I've ever seen, and their cute sloganeering.

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    10. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by AngryDeuce · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

      - John F. Kennedy, 1962

    11. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to the actual racists and violent people at the Tea Party rallies?

      You can go to google and get dozens of examples of outright racist signs at Tea Party rallies right now if you bothered. I rarely hear people distance themselves from the racism and bigotry displayed in the movement, especially as regards Obama, either.

    12. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by pavon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Screaming at someone while they are trying to talk is not a conversation.

      But that is exactly what this device does. It literally interrupts and screams down someone who is trying to speak by repeating their own words back at them. It is just a technical implementation of what the conversation abusers were already doing.

    13. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah how'd things work out for that guy? I hear he was real chummy with the powers-that-be.

    14. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by next_ghost · · Score: 5, Informative

      Except that sticking fingers into your ears while speaking will render that gun useless.

    15. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by MarkvW · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's exactly what they want. They want to drown out legitimate debate. When the people involved in that debate revolt, they get to bring down the hammer on them. And then they get to smear their political enemies as lawless.

      This is exactly what we saw them do with OWS last fall. But this time the muting is literal, instead of using a media blitz to drown out the real message with confused ones.

      "They" are bad and must be stopped. We can blame all the world's problems on "them." Gosh, if we could only figure out who "they" and "them" are we could solve all of the world's problems.

      Sounds too much like a child wailing about his all-powerful parents.

    16. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tea Party did this quite handily on their own. The only thing you need to discredit a Teaparty member is air unedited recordings.

    17. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Mod up informative. Once people find out how this device works and how easy it is to defeat, it will become completely useless.

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    18. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      both have appropriate uses.

      With time, what we think of as "abuse" will become mere "use," and the qualifier "appropriate" will be slathered about rather liberally by those who wish to erode this distinction.

    19. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Technically there's (as far as we know) only one real silenced gun in the world called the PSS. What is commonly called "silencers" are actually suppressors. Here is a video of suppressed pistols being used. (Technically, even the PSS has noise from the motion of the mechanisms.)

    20. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

      If we can't even figure out how to deal with people who are merely assholes in a conversation, we're fucking doomed. The silencing gun is the official admission by people that they cannot and will not participate in a discussion that isn't following their script.

      This isn't even about potential abuse. This is about a technology that has no other function than to abuse.

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    21. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except this isn't about the conversation, this is about people trying to drowned out the conversation.

      Screaming at someone while they are trying to talk is not a conversation.

      This is coming from geekoid???

    22. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by kubernet3s · · Score: 5, Funny

      Useless as the weird dystopian weapon you are trying to make it out to be. Useful for moderating debates and designated quiet areas? Yes. If you wear earplugs into a library just so you can talk loudly, you're a jackass, not the inventors

    23. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by lgw · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can go to google and get dozens of examples of outright racist signs at Tea Party rallies right now if you bothered. I rarely hear people distance themselves from the racism and bigotry displayed in the movement, especially as regards Obama, either.

      Of course you can. It was fashionable on the left for a while to make racist signs and wave them at Tea Party rallies, and the press went with that, even going so far as removing black people from pictures to make the rallies look all white.

      And, did you know? It's mathematically possible to despise Obama without caring at all that he's black? Strange but true.

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    24. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      "They" are authoritarians. And yes, ridding ourselves of authoritarians would solve a great many of our problems.

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    25. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      I'm not trying to make it out to be anything. That was my first post on this topic. But on the subject of libraries, these days many people wear earbuds which will render it equally ineffective.

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    26. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by dargaud · · Score: 1

      If conversation fails, people escalate to violence.

      Yeah, reminds we about advertisement, which is basically a way that private corps use to violate your brain. I so hate ads that I stopped watching TV at 16, I change channel on the radio as soon as one comes up and I install adblock on every computer I see. A few years ago there was this post on /. About an interferometric sound system that could send personalized messages to people in a crowd. On that day I swore that if I ever heard one, I'd resort to violence and destroy it. Well, that's what it reminds me of.

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    27. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by phiwum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have no doubt that non-racists can dislike Obama, and I reckon the majority of Tea Party members are not racist.

      Now, how about some evidence for your claims that:

      (1) Some or many of the racist signs at Tea Party events were the product of liberals trying to discredit the movement and
      (2) The media has removed black people from images of Tea Party rallies.

      Just 'cause, you know, anyone can say anything.

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    28. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Except this isn't about the conversation, this is about people trying to drowned out the conversation.

      Do you really think this technology won't be abused to silence disenting opinions in a conversation even if it is being delivered in a calm and well thought out manner? I don't buy into the "big brother" mass usage, but stuff like this is ALWAYS abused.

      Hell, the RIAA will probably want to use it at concerts to prevent people from "violating their IP" by singing along...

      Does it work on music?

    29. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Silencing guns don't silence people. People silence people.</sarcasm>

      Aren't silencers illegal?

    30. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The gun is supposed to scramble words. Do you think if you fired that thing while George W Bush was in office, he would have actually made sense?

    31. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you, all it does is replay what you say .2 of a second later. Annoying, yes. Effective? Not if you really want to say what you want to say. Expensive? No doubt tax money will be spent training people how to use this stupid thing. The real crime is that it is ugly.

    32. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How relatively low tech. Here I was hoping that they were using something clever like phase-cancellation techniquies, but instead they spent a bunch of money replicating the downsides of speakerphones.

    33. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do shut up.

    34. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 1

      Not in the States*. You just have to pay a $200 tax and get a specific license.

      * Individual state laws may vary; some states ban threaded barrels, which makes it almost impossible to mount a sound suppressor.

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    35. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 1

      And if you make a scratching motion, it sounds like Pacman!

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    36. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Fned · · Score: 1

      The same way a SWAT team is a tool.

      ... only, armed with this technology, they'd be a STFU team.

    37. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by locopuyo · · Score: 1

      Willpower rating of 0. Your mind is very week. This doesn't need any further explanation.

    38. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Just like you can discredit any OWS "member" by airing an unedited recording. MISS THE POINT MUCH

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    39. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by kubernet3s · · Score: 1

      Earbuds playing music, I assume? Which they will talk over? I'm pretty sure that, if you go into a library, wearing headphones (which are not allowed in plenty of libraries already!) and talking, you should be shot with a real gun.

    40. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like the political "debates" I've been hearing.

    41. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Exactly. And anyone can show up at a Tea Party rally and say anything...until they are escorted/driven away.

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    42. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved how the first tea party rallies were supposedly hot beds of racial slurs and such, despite the fact that Democratic congresscritters went out with news crews to go through the crowd... and managed to miss all of it.

    43. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly true. I'm a libertarian, and I'm all for these protesters protesting against the ridiculous bailouts and advantages handed to the super-wealthy at the expense of everyone else.

                BUT, I've seen these people bust into some conference, make their point (which is OK as far as I'm concerned, although they are obviously not following parliamentary procedure they would never have been allowed to speak otherwise), but THEN they will start chanting and such just to disrupt what everyone else there was doing (not so cool.) Most of the conferences/meetings/etc. they do disrupt are absolutely loathesome in purpose, but the disrupting is simply not useful for anyone involved.

                There's also "town halls" and so on where people just start yelling each other down, instead of taking turns. Again this just wastes everybodys time, both those who start yelling each other down and everyone who was willing to actually follow proper procedures.

                I should point out in both cases, it'd take a while to aim and activate a device like that, so it's not like someone could be pre-silenced.

    44. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by axlr8or · · Score: 1

      What? I can't understand a word your saying!

    45. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's interesting what you say about all-powerful parents. I didn't have parents that I'd ever think to caricature that way. Yet, they had no trouble teaching me to be disciplined. Now that I'm an adult, I'm skeptical of anyone that wants to be more authoritarian than my parents were. What do they need that control for, if not to aggrandize themselves and prove their importance to themselves by treating others like a child -- in a way I never had to struggle with? It seems like so many other things that are inflicted upon people as children, they pass on their maltreatment to others and act as if it's the most normal thing in the world. I find it sad that these people don't recognize this and instead try to work against those who would like a world where we humans treat each other more as equals. It's more possible than most think -- the first step is to get out of thinking as if nothing else is possible other than how the majority acts now.

    46. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the disrupting is simply not useful for anyone involved.

      It makes good headlines, so it can be good for whatever cause they're for. Also it may happen accidentally as controlling crowds isn't easy because people feel anonymous/safe in a big group.

      I'd bet good money that device doesn't works as advertised. It may make it more difficult to talk, but it won't silence you. You can try a similar software on speechmonitor.org; this device uses a 200ms delay but you can experiment with shorter/longer delays. On my test it did make talking more difficult but not enough to silence me, it's kinda weird though.

    47. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Johann+Lau · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and? What do you suggest to do for people to organize and get together, compared to the machineries they're facing? Do you think a slick, well-oiled and silently humming greed bot is somehow more cool, or being a pussy fucking armchair critic of people who actually try to do fuck all? Pah...

      Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side.

      -- Goethe

    48. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except this isn't about the conversation, this is about people trying to drowned out the conversation.

      Screaming at someone while they are trying to talk is not a conversation.

      Drown. Drowned is past tense, as in, he drowned in his own blood. Or the children were drowned by their mother, who then killed herself. The sentence you were going for was,

      "Except this isn't about the conversation, this is about people trying to drown the conversation out.

      Screaming at someone while he is trying to talk is not a conversation."

      Sorry, misuse of "drowned" is one of my pet peeves.

    49. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, guns also silence people. Oddly enough, they do this even if you don't use a silencer, a misnamed device if ever there was one. Often guns can be used to silence people simply by pointing them at them. If this doesn't work, cocking the hammer back often does the trick. If even this fails (if the person you are trying to silence is brazen or stupid or suicidal) you may have to take the further step of squeezing the trigger. If this happens, the gun hasn't strictly speaking silenced the person or persons, the bullet has. In these instances, the person may continue making noises for a short while, but what the person is saying and how it is said will often change markedly. But if you aimed properly, the person will eventually stop making any noise at all, except for the very soft sound of oozing blood, which is almost inaudible anyway.

      But mostly it doesn't come to that.

    50. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      It's a "Taste of your own Medicine" gun?

    51. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't stand protestors. But then, I was raised Catholic.

    52. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by dargaud · · Score: 1

      If you think you are immune to advertisement, go right ahead and keep submiting to it. Just remember that they employ psychologists and a whole bunch of people for the sole purpose of making sure YOU get the message. I much prefer to avoid it altogether, weak mind or not.

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    53. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      yea, my first thought was like : omg, censor-gun ... but i can see the benefits of something like this at a justin bieber concert tho

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    54. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In this case "they" are the FEC (Federal Election Committee).

    55. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and? What do you suggest to do for people to organize and get together, compared to the machineries they're facing?

      Gee ... I don't know ... calm discussion? Organized debate? Electing representatives to speak in their stead?

      Do you think a slick, well-oiled and silently humming greed bot is somehow more cool, or being a pussy fucking armchair critic of people who actually try to do fuck all?

      Ah, I see, you're one of the chanting twits, aren't you? You've certainly mastered all the meaningless buzzwords.

    56. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of every political stump speech I've ever heard.

    57. Re:see, here's the fatal flaw with this idea... by Dr+Damage+I · · Score: 1
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  9. Not really a speech jammer by parlancex · · Score: 4, Informative

    According TFA all the "jammer" does is play back a copy of your speech delayed by 0.2 seconds, akin to being annoyed by loud echo on a VoIP phone or Skype conversation. While echo can sometimes be annoying when it interrupts yourself, it is fairly easy to adjust if you've done it before and talk over yourself. Because the gun features both a directional microphone and directional speaker, if you can comfortably talk over yourself everyone else will hear you just fine, sans echo.

    1. Re:Not really a speech jammer by snowgirl · · Score: 4, Informative

      According TFA all the "jammer" does is play back a copy of your speech delayed by 0.2 seconds, akin to being annoyed by loud echo on a VoIP phone or Skype conversation. While echo can sometimes be annoying when it interrupts yourself, it is fairly easy to adjust if you've done it before and talk over yourself. Because the gun features both a directional microphone and directional speaker, if you can comfortably talk over yourself everyone else will hear you just fine, sans echo.

      Looking up Delayed Auditory Feedback, it's been long used to help stutterers to produce fluent speech. It causes them to speak slower, but they also speak more fluently.

      I'm with you, this does not actually stop speaking, it just makes it annoying and stressful to speak, but a lot of people won't suffer any impairment in dominating a conversation even with this device.

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    2. Re:Not really a speech jammer by gman003 · · Score: 0

      Aw, and here I was expecting someone to have combined ultrasound "laser sound" tech with the inverse-signal noise-cancellation stuff Bose advertises the shit out of.

      Hmm... that's actually a pretty cool idea. Someone should try it.

    3. Re:Not really a speech jammer by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 2

      You are correct. Because this gun doesn't use destructive interference or anything else that would *mute* sound, it can easily be subverted by plugging your ears. I do it all the time with BF3's crappy voice chat function.

      As long as you block out the echo (mentally or physically), you can easily talk.

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    4. Re:Not really a speech jammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The occupy movement already does this anyways. They call it a microphone check, essentially they say "microphone check" which is a queue to the audience around them to repeat "microphone check" all at once. Then, the person speaking states his case and they all repeat his every word, thereby echoing what he is saying, delayed by a few seconds. Essentially, they're already in tuned with hearing themselves twice, so this won't affect them probably.

    5. Re:Not really a speech jammer by schlachter · · Score: 1

      Wear ear plugs and you will defeat this tech.

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    6. Re:Not really a speech jammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying electroshock of the speaker is a good alternative?

    7. Re:Not really a speech jammer by evil_aaronm · · Score: 1

      Too much hassle. I'll just turn down / off my cochlear implant. Then I'll be as annoying as ever!

    8. Re:Not really a speech jammer by JeanCroix · · Score: 2

      I wonder if its effectiveness differs with the language being spoken. Do faster-spoken languages become more stressful and difficult to continue with than slower-spoken ones?

    9. Re:Not really a speech jammer by canajin56 · · Score: 1

      It's impossible to pull that off without predictive software knowing the exact soundwaves the speaker is going to produce long before they do, so you have time to process the signal and then account for the speed of sound delay.

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    10. Re:Not really a speech jammer by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

      It's always worked for me.

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    11. Re:Not really a speech jammer by dreemernj · · Score: 1

      I want a slashdot story about this more than about the gun itself.

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    12. Re:Not really a speech jammer by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      You can even practice defeating this with Microsoft Windows microphone application...

      "I am listening for the sound of my voice..."

      (I haven't yet met the person that can talk through that sentence the FIRST time without stumbling.)

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    13. Re:Not really a speech jammer by davegravy · · Score: 1

      If a person is speaking while plugging his ears, what effect does that have on the audience's perception of the speaker? "I'm not listening to you, this is what I'm saying, lalalalalalaal"...

      I would imagine most would consider it childish/rude, and the speaker's credibility would disappear rapidly. The tool would have that effect, as a minimum.

    14. Re:Not really a speech jammer by John3 · · Score: 1

      Having experienced this while working in radio during my college years I can state that it is EXTREMELY difficult to speak while hearing your own voice back in a delayed mode. This was often done as a practical joke to experienced radio announcers, and the only way to effectively continue to speak was to remove or mute your headphones. Several people have pointed out that wearing earplugs or even just sticking your fingers in your ears would allow you to continue to speak, although that is difficult as well since you may speak too loudly or softly without hearing your voice. I doubt that anyone would be able to adjust easily and still come across clearly and eloquently if they just tried to mentally mute the delayed feedback.

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    15. Re:Not really a speech jammer by Guppy · · Score: 1

      I wonder if its effectiveness differs with the language being spoken. Do faster-spoken languages become more stressful and difficult to continue with than slower-spoken ones?

      Well, among languages, Japanese has an especially low information/syllable density (and thus is spoken rapidly). In comparison, languages such as Vietnamese, English and Mandarin Chinese have very high information densities, resulting in lower syllables-per-minute spoken.

    16. Re:Not really a speech jammer by guttentag · · Score: 1

      Actually, I've been doing this for years. Whenever someone says something really dumb, I repeat it back to them, verbatim, and watch their stunned silence as they try to figure out what they hell it was they were thinking when they opened their mouth.

      Boss: Can you get next week's work done by 2:00 today?
      Me: Can you get next week's work done by 2:00 today?
      Blank stare... followed by:
      Boss: No.
      Me:No.
      Blank stare... followed by:
      Boss: Really?
      Me: Really.
      Boss leaves room, frustrated with himself.

    17. Re:Not really a speech jammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According TFA all the "jammer" does is play back a copy of your speech delayed by 0.2 seconds, akin to being annoyed by loud echo on a VoIP phone or Skype conversation. While echo can sometimes be annoying when it interrupts yourself, it is fairly easy to adjust if you've done it before and talk over yourself

      .

      My mobile phone sometimes gives me the same feedback. So blame it on that network to being trained to talk on regardless.

      Which might give you the added benefit of having your speech amplified and re-broadcast - at least to the people on a line connecting you and the gun.

      Furthermore, wearing ear plugs might also diminish the usefulness of this gun. So public activists that are only parroting some handler will actually be at an advantage.

    18. Re:Not really a speech jammer by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      Having experienced this while working in radio during my college years I can state that it is EXTREMELY difficult to speak while hearing your own voice back in a delayed mode. This was often done as a practical joke to experienced radio announcers, and the only way to effectively continue to speak was to remove or mute your headphones. Several people have pointed out that wearing earplugs or even just sticking your fingers in your ears would allow you to continue to speak, although that is difficult as well since you may speak too loudly or softly without hearing your voice. I doubt that anyone would be able to adjust easily and still come across clearly and eloquently if they just tried to mentally mute the delayed feedback.

      There was a friend of mine who was in marching band, and he said he once played in a stadium that sent back a delayed echo, and that really screwed things up. It definitely is not a normal stimulus that we're used to dealing with, and it can definitely befuddle people, but it's not extremely debilitating.

      However, it really just takes some good practice, and a confidence to keep speaking while just trusting that what you're saying is correct.

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    19. Re:Not really a speech jammer by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      Japanese has an especially low information/syllable density (and thus is spoken rapidly)

      Huh... I've never heard of this phenomena... do you have any links to material supporting the claim?

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  10. Three hurras for the STFUgun! by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hip! hip! H....

    1. Re:Three hurras for the STFUgun! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like a SHUTgun

  11. Wow... by Shoten · · Score: 1

    Damn, somehow my ex-wife has become a Japanese researcher?

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      My wife should have been one of the research subjects. Sigh....

  12. Keep it on all the time by CSHARP123 · · Score: 1

    Keep it on all the time in all places. That way you don't have to fear free speech. On the paper Big brother can easily say, we have best free speech law in the world, but in reality we use this neat little gadget that make sure that no one else other big brother is speaking. How innovative?

    1. Re:Keep it on all the time by scarboni888 · · Score: 1

      This is a double-edged sword. There are many situations where free speech is curtailed because some alpha-male baboon dominates the conversation and takes advantage of others' good manners in order to further its' own agenda. In cases like that this device would actually end up providing free speech for those who might otherwise not have it.

  13. Not as cool as hyped... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was disappointed to see that it doesn't create some kind of actual interference, but rather just gives them a local echo of themselves and creates a psychological effect. This can easily be overcome with practice. If you've ever announced in a gym or a stadium, you get the same effect and get used to it quickly.

    1. Re:Not as cool as hyped... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. While I agree that some echos are easy to get used to, IMO it depends on factors like volume, clarity, and time delay. For instance, I have no problem with speaking on a microphone in a gym or a stadium. However, when I talk to someone over VoIP when they're not using a headset, and my voice comes back loud and clear more than a second after I say something (which is significantly longer than the delay for a normal echo), I can't say more than a few words without my concentration being broken.

      Either way, I'd love to be able to use this on my wife when she's having one of her tantrums. ;-)

  14. The Oscars will be the first customer by Viol8 · · Score: 2

    No more get-the-hint loud music, desperate host or shepherds crook. Instead the blubbering ham - sorry , I mean award winning thespian - suddenly goes silent and just looks like a fish gasping for air. In fact , the ceremony could probably be improved vastly if it was switched on 99% of the time.

  15. Possible Marketing Strategy by justdiver · · Score: 1

    Instead of calling it the speech-jamming gun, call it a "Mother-In-Law Silencer" or something like that. I know I'd buy one.

    1. Re:Possible Marketing Strategy by Xacid · · Score: 1

      THIS IS GENIUS. Although I actually happen to enjoy chatting it up with my mother in law oddly enough...

    2. Re:Possible Marketing Strategy by mjwx · · Score: 1

      THIS IS GENIUS. Although I actually happen to enjoy chatting it up with my mother in law oddly enough...

      I read that as "chatting up my mother in law" and thought perhaps /. is not the best place for this kind of revelation.

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  16. First Rule by Sarius64 · · Score: 1

    The first rule of Speech-Jamming Guns is no one talks about Speech-Jamming Guns! Sheesh.

  17. Chicago Way by A10Mechanic · · Score: 1

    They pull a gun, I pull a bigger, more boxy looking gun, with two lasers, and surround sound.

  18. ASL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Makes me glad I learned sign language.

    1. Re:ASL by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      That's why we have a right to arms people... so we can still speak ASL when our voices are muted by Japanese Speech stopping guns. The founding father's thought of everything.

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  19. Easy work-around by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1

    The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker. This triggers an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you mightâ(TM)ve experienced the same effect if youâ(TM)ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). According to the researchers, DAF doesnâ(TM)t cause physical discomfort, but the fact that youâ(TM)re unable to talk is obviously quite stressful.

    Just stuff your fingers in your ears and go "You still suck and I'll say whatever I want when I want it and you can't stop me NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH!"

    Also, the effect isn't that pronounced - I got used to it when one of my daughters kept using her iPhone on speaker and I'd be able to hear everything I said repeated back. It probably only workes on old farts who never had kids and keep going "turn off that damn speakerphone!" It certainly won't work on the current generation for more than a few seconds.

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  20. Finally a device for Husbands of the world by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Finally a device for Husbands of the world.

    The non-talkative will inherit the world. Blabbermouths of the living room when Liverpool FC be gone.

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    1. Re:Finally a device for Husbands of the world by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Should say when "Liverpool FC are playing" be gone.

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  21. Harper is gonna love these by msobkow · · Score: 1

    I betcha Harper is going to order a dozen of these for the Canadian Parliament next week!

    Watch for a "bulk order" from the US Congress and Senate by month end, too.

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  22. So it's basically a mute button for people? by Millennium · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a Nobel prize waiting for the person who invents a way to use this over the Internet. Possibly the Nobel Peace Prize itself.

    1. Re:So it's basically a mute button for people? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Mute button to stop speech on the interent?

      That's called the FBI.

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    2. Re:So it's basically a mute button for people? by sixtyeight · · Score: 1

      TThHeErReE'sS aA NNoObBeElL pPrRiIzZe wWaAiItTiInNgG fFoOrR tThHeE pPeErRsSoOnN wWhHoO iInNvVeEnNtTsS aA wWaAyY tToO uUsSeE TtHhIiSs oOvVeErR tThHe IInNtTeErRnNeEtT. PPoOsSsSiIbBlLyY tThHe NNoObBeElL PPeEaAcCe PPrRiIzZe iItTsSeElLfF.

      Don't bother with the Peace Prize. They only give that to warmongers.

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    3. Re:So it's basically a mute button for people? by Millennium · · Score: 1

      I don't understand your quoting convention. What's with the bold/capitalized text?

    4. Re:So it's basically a mute button for people? by sixtyeight · · Score: 1

      I've reproduced the device's effect over the Internet. =)

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    5. Re:So it's basically a mute button for people? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Nobel Peace & Quiet Prize

  23. Beneficial Uses by Translation+Error · · Score: 1

    But this invention can be used for good! Just imagine the benefits of having one on hand at political debates and the Academy Awards!

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  24. Delayed Auditory Feedback by alexo · · Score: 1

    Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), is a device that enables a user of the device to speak into a microphone and then hear his or her voice in headphones a fraction of a second later. [...]
    DAF usage (with a 175 millisecond delay) has been proven to induce mental stress.

    -- Wikipedia

  25. Don't speech Jam me Bro... by CSHARP123 · · Score: 1

    Does anybody know how to scream in sign language?

    1. Re:Don't speech Jam me Bro... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Yes.

      You stand firmly with back straight, legs shoulder width apart. Breath in deep, fill your lungs- then exhale whilst really loudly yelling:

      "IN SIGN LANGUAGE"

      That's how you scream "in sign language".

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  26. The Obligatory XKCD by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny
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    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
  27. Japanese sense of humour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not Japanese culture expert, but can these usage suggestions be humour on the part of the researchers?
    Not detecting humour on an everyday basis is more worrisome than crackpot ideas.

  28. Academy Awards by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

    Give each winner 30 seconds then turn on this device and go to commerical. Maybe they'll finally get through the show in under 4 hours.

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  29. yea but by milkmage · · Score: 1

    FTA: "At a political rally, an audience member could completely lock down Santorum, Romney, Paul, or Obama from speaking. "

    well, I'm sure the secret service would notice if you were pointing toaster at POTUS (look at the pic, handheld, yes? inconspicuous? no)

    wonder if you could defeat it with a piece of glass like a bigger teleprompter screen (it doesn't use noise cancelling technology) - no mention of how it works in an amplified environment where sound comes real time from multiple directions/sources.

    "The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker. This triggers an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you might’ve experienced the same effect if you’ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). "

  30. Likelihood this will be used legitimately by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

    This would be a fantastic tool to help enforce respectful dialog during discussions/debates.

    However, the likelihood that this will be limited to just that, is so low as to require an entirely new not-yet-invented field of mathematics just to calculate the odds.

    1. Re:Likelihood this will be used legitimately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does it require a new field of mathematics to calculate zero?

    2. Re:Likelihood this will be used legitimately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pffft, the number zero was invented, by Babilonian mathematicians, like, 2 milleniums BC.

    3. Re:Likelihood this will be used legitimately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psychohistory!

      (If you don't understand this comment, you need to go read Asimov's "Foundation" series. Now.)

    4. Re:Likelihood this will be used legitimately by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

      Thank you! I've added it to my reading list. :)

  31. easy workaround? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, so what happens if the target plugs his or her ears? Wouldn't they then get no auditory feedback, allowing them to speak? Seems a bit easy to beat..

    1. Re:easy workaround? by kubernet3s · · Score: 1

      It's not about "beating" it. If you're determined to beat this device, you can. But if you are determined to beat this device in the contexts it aims to be used in (i.e., you are determined to interrupt people, and are determined to talk in libraries) you are an asshole.

  32. Re:More Importantly by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 0

    Buy her some treakle toffee... you'll have peace whilst she tries to chew through it.

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  33. Anyone who uses this technology... by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    ...isn't worthy of respect or being listened to in the first place.

    If I'm ever at a political rally where one of these is used that candidate will never get my vote.

  34. Speech jamming can't stop me! by zildgulf · · Score: 1

    I know American Sign Language and if this technology becomes widespread many others will learn it too!

    Imagine learning ASL will become a exercise in free speech and resistance. Who would ever thought that?

    1. Re:Speech jamming can't stop me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A/S/L ?

    2. Re:Speech jamming can't stop me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know American Sign Language too, it consists of only one hand sign.

    3. Re:Speech jamming can't stop me! by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      "Terrorist Hand Signs"

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    4. Re:Speech jamming can't stop me! by dreemernj · · Score: 1

      A covert form of communication employed to circumvent the speech inhibitors used by government forces. If they weren't evil, they wouldn't need to hide anything!

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  35. Won't work with politicians by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They like to hear themselves talk too much.

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  36. Easily Rendered Ineffective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can simply be used to hearing yourself echoing, and some people actually can speak MORE clearly when they feel they're being interrupted (this gun's method was used as a treatment for those who have debilitating problems with stuttering to make the patient think they're being interrupted). Either way, you can easily train yourself to be immune to this gun.

    Failing that, just plug a mic into ordinary sound-canceling headphones to create a headset that cancels sound matching your voice so you can hear everything else, and as a fun side effect you'll instinctively speak even louder since you can't hear yourself.

  37. Speech jamming vs POV gun by gzipped_tar · · Score: 1

    Whenever I heard of Japanese speech-jamming machines I go grab my point-of-view gun.

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  38. They obviously haven't been in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Glasgow trainstation where there are echos from the announcements at all sorts of times delays.

    Scotland isn't afraid of silly little echos! We'll toss'em like cabers! MEN.

  39. In Soviet Japan ... by PPH · · Score: 0

    ... gun silences you!

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  40. You get the same effect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...by playing 'Indian Love Call' by Slim Whitman

  41. Jam my speech? by Khyber · · Score: 1

    Someone in Japan has guns. They'll use that to speak instead.

    Typical Japanese.

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  42. Even more obvious use by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

    Want to disrupt some boring political speech?

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  43. Military Uses Anyone? by AJH16 · · Score: 1

    I'm just imagining this thing in a special ops context. How useful would it be to be able to remotely confused the ability of a group of guards to speak to each other without losing focus on the battle at hand?

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  44. Easy to beat by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2

    "The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker."

    Basically, this messes with your brain, causing you to stop talking. Two very simple techiques for stopping this
    1. Put a finger in each ear or cover them with your hands
    2. Train yourself to block out the echo. I understand those in the radio industry already do this.

    Interesting little research, but not practical.

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  45. Washington DC by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    Can this be scaled up to encompass all of DC? We can install "voting" buttons in everyone's residence and call it the "I'm sick of your bullshit" button. When the majority of the country presses it, DC is silenced for a day.

    It probably wouldn't accomplish much, but that's not much different than things are going right now. At least we could stop the flow of noise pollution emanating from DC for a couple for days per year.

  46. Wear ear senmuffs by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

    It works by confusing the speaker with his own words delayed - so if you can't hear your own words because you are wearing ear muffs you won't become confused.

  47. anti-jamming device by KDN · · Score: 1

    The device works by replaying your voice with a slight delay. I envision a counter device that will play white noise, or maybe eventually even record your own voice and cancel out the remote delayed voice so that you never hear it.

  48. Covert ops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a person giving a motivating speech to hundreds or thousands - then all of a sudden blurp bloa bah blah - the crowd looks confused, some erupt in laughter. Instant credibility loss. Who would suspect an attack from an actual weapon?

  49. So it's a heckler gun. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    Hecklers will find it useful.

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    1. Re:So it's a heckler gun. by JeanCroix · · Score: 1

      Statler and Waldorf have one on order.

  50. Guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please tell us, what government are you speaking of that isn't 100% dependent on guns and the special right to use them as a business model?

  51. Get back to me... by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    Get back to me when it works on management, irrespective of the range.

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  52. This couild be a HUGE seller for parents! by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    "Are we there yet?" "Are we ......

    (That's better!)

    1. Re:This couild be a HUGE seller for parents! by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 1

      I always just answer "Yes". They stay confused for, like, 30 miles.

  53. Puffft by WillRobinson · · Score: 1

    We have had these in Texas for years, we call them Glock's

    1. Re:Puffft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have had these in Texas for years, we call them Glock's

      Jesus, it would be Glocks, plural of a singular noun. Too bad your Glock doesn't handle your grammar.

      Only two things come from Texas, steers and queers. You don't have any horns. God, I hate Texas. The Mexican's could have kept it. Dust-bowl, redneck shithole.

  54. Re:First by xeoron · · Score: 1

    Growing up, I always wanted a voice jammer for family parrots when they decided they wanted to screech. I, also, wanted one to use on my sister when she annoyed me. These days, I would love one to use against people being rude and too loud talking on their cells while in shops and while watching a film in a theatre.

  55. introverted scientists.... by schlachter · · Score: 1

    "to stop 'loader, stronger' voices from saying more than there fair share in conversation" ....says the introverted scientist

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  56. Just wear headphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You wouldn't be able to listen to anyone else talking, but it wouldn't trigger you to mess up your speech.

  57. Just what I've wanted for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The biggest customer for this is obviously married men.

  58. Countermeasure by blue_adept · · Score: 1

    So the countermeasure/defense against this device is one that records what you're saying and then sends it out after a 5 second (or longer) delay, essentially pre-recording what you want to say by a short time. They already use this device at airport gates when they want to make an announcement.

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  59. Just think of the benefits by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    The dangers of this technology is apparent but I think the intention was a good one. See, the Japanese just wanted to silence famous loudmouth Rush Limbaugh from speaking Japanese. They don't put it past Rush to confuse Japan with China.

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  60. Doesn't matter in the U.S. by xyourfacekillerx · · Score: 1

    I don't know what kind of Constitution they have in Japan, but at least here, this doesn't appear too useful except in private capacity (i.e. non government sanctioned, also including organizations receiving government funds such as public libraries, can't employ this device ...) I find it interesting the article references U.S. in its contemplation of application of the device.

    How and when our government can restrict speech has already been covered by a host of legal precedent, and while the government can punish and (sometimes even prohibit) limited types of communication exempt from First Amendment protection (like obscenity, etc. which is considered either not to be speech or to be outside the domain of protection afforded by the First Amendment), it also is prohibited usually from engaging in prior restraint against protected speech, i.e. taking measures to censor forms of protected speech before it has occurred - and such a "speech silencer" is easily construed as prior restraint.

    As it stands right now, for restricted speech in the U.S., the government can only impose civil or criminal sanctions AFTER the speech has occurred. That is why civilian audiences in a court room are not ever duct taped at the mouth, though it can be illegal to disrupt the court proceedings by undue vocal utterance.

    So in the U.S. public schools, public libraries, unlicensed peaceful assembly on public square (demonstrations with or without permits), etc. and any institutions operating off government money, these are examples where such a device cannot legally be employed. Perhaps the government might TRY but there is overwhelming precedent making that unconstitutional and I'm confident upon judicial review it would summarily be found to have limited legal use.

    So relax, paranoid citizen. The government will not silence your speech much with this. Where you MIGHT see this though, private use, such as in movie theaters, air lines, ideological/political "demonstrations" on private property,

  61. Speech Jamming Gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think this would silence a bullhorn, or crowd megaphone? How about barking dogs?

  62. CONTROL by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    No cone of silence references? Man, I'm old. :-(

    1. Re:CONTROL by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      You don't have to be retired to be entitled to making that reference. ;-)

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  63. A must have by TheHonch · · Score: 1

    for guests on the O'Reilly Factor!

  64. very effective against: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    spellcasters...

  65. Getting used to it by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Same phenomenon :
    - for people used to do VoIP over shitty connection with a correspondant lacking echo cancellation (where you get a smiliar delayed echo). The first few days, you might be distrubed by the delayed echo. Afterward you just start ignoring it.
    - for people who've learned not to rely on auditory feedback when speaking (like simultaneous speech translators: they use sound blocking earphones to hear to source material, and speak the translation into a sound-proof recording mask, to avoid creating noise interference to other translator in neighbooring booths. Thus they are used to speak without any auditory feedback).
    - for deaf or hard-hearing persons who've lost the auditory feedback since long time ago.

    They too will be unaffected by this device, just like you probably aren't due to your training with shitty phone links.

    The only way to effectively silence a conversation would be using destructive interferrences (playing the conversation back in-sync but with opposite phase, to cancel out the noise).

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  66. One last improvement by hAckz0r · · Score: 2

    We need to remove the "directional speaker" from the system and instead add in an "Audio Spotlight" http://www.holosonics.com/ in its place. That way any people around the "noisy" person do not need to listen to the noisy person NOR the speaker echo system trying to make them stop. The "sound" would litterally be 'all in their head', and not for others to listen to. I heard this spotlight device back in the year 2000, and it was really wild listneing to music in your head that others next to you could not hear. You could litterally put voices in somebodys head and play with their mind with this thing.

  67. Won't work on Germans by DrYak · · Score: 1

    You need to take an extra second before you speak (to plan out or memorize your sentence), but then you just say the whole thing instead of relying on audible feedback.

    So Germans are naturally imune to this disruption :-D

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  68. Japanese conversation style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember reading an article a few years ago called "Conversational Ballgames" by an english-speaking woman who became fluent in Japanese while in residence there. She describes her difficulty fitting in to conversation patterns even after she was "fluent" until she learned that social expectations of the conversation differed across cultures. She compares western-style conversation to volleyball or tennis, a match where you bat back and forth the same ball with a partner -- whereas Japanese conversation reflects more a game of bowling. She explains the game:

    "A Japanese-style conversation, however, is not at all like tennis or volleyball, it’s like bowling. You wait for your turn, and you always know your place in line. It depends on such things as whether you are older or younger, a close friend or a relative stranger to the previous speaker, in a senior or junior position, and so on.

    The first thing is to wait for your turn, patiently and politely. When your moment comes, you step up to the starting line with your bowling ball, and carefully bowl it. Everyone else stands back, making sounds of polite encouragement. Everyone waits until your ball has reached the end of the lane, and watches to see if it knocks down all the pins, or only some of them, or none of them. Then there is a pause, while everyone registers your score.

    Then, after everyone is sure that you are done, the next person in line steps up to the same startling line, with a different ball. He doesn’t return your ball. There is no back and forth at all. And there is always a suitable pause between turns. There is no rush, no impatience."

    Here's a link to the essay: http://books.google.com/books?id=EhAYIyaeuz8C&pg=PA454&lpg=PA454#v=onepage&q&f=false

    The reasoning given by the researchers for the need to silence someone (while still chilling) comes into context for me when I think of them trying to harmonize a game of bowling. I can see them pointing their silence gun at rowdy american-like bowlers butting into the lane when it isn't their turn, distracting the bowler on deck, and scooping the ball off the lane before it reaches the pins!

    1. Re:Japanese conversation style by homejapan · · Score: 1

      I've lived in Japan for 30+ years (hey, I'm here now!), and conversation here is conversation. Silly, contrived anecdotes by self-described "experts in cross-cultural communication", who need to fill their books or speeches with *something*, just make me laugh. "Tennis vs bowling"? Aye yi yi.

      I know, you're just repeating what you've heard. No harm there. Just be skeptical of claims, especially those involving unmeasurable, fluffy things like "conversational ballgames".

    2. Re:Japanese conversation style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason America is the World's leader is our refusal to submit to an English king; i.e. a refusal to be in "harmony" with the rest of the World. This also applies to France, India, and the former Soviet Eastern bloc. Not to mention disruptive leaders like Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandella. The Japanese culture is fine for Japan, but not for the rest of the World.

  69. Oh I get it... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    STFU or I'll shoot you....

  70. As an american.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I fear that me and my kind will be targetted by this

  71. This would be useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be great for implementing a progressive stack, which is, like, the opposite of silencing people.

  72. Delayed feedback won't work by Animats · · Score: 1

    Hearing your own voice with a slight delay won't confuse people any more. Bad cell phone interconnects and VoIP with failed echo suppressors produce that effect all the time. Today it just makes people talk louder.

    (Sometimes I think ISDN did telephony right. Rigid timing, no compression, full duplex, digital end to end. ISDN voice never caught on in the US, but it's widely deployed in parts of Europe.)

  73. Earplugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    earplugs would negate this device, as would a bit of training to learn to ignore the delayed "feedback."

  74. Physics is a 2-way Street by Phoenix666 · · Score: 1

    Are the principles behind this only known to the incredibly advanced race of Aliens from Planet Xorg? No. Are the components of this device only available to government agencies with their massive budgets? No. Are the physics behind its function an alchemical secret, wrapped in allusion and allegory, plain to only a select few Initiates? No.

    Like the LRAD cannon, drones, tasers, and other means governments have recently employed to silence opposition to their policies, there is nearly equal access to the same means among the disgruntled. It will not be long, months if not days, for the disgruntled to turn the weapons of the enemy against itself. And there are so many more of the disgruntled, with greater resolve, than there are among the government's forces.

    Imagine an array of targeted audience members with smart phones, w/ speakers, running the same app timed precisely such that they can warp the effect back upon the smart ass gov shill pointing this gun at them. Imagine the shill running from the stage with his/her/its hands over its ears, ears bleeding.

    That app doesn't exist, yet, but it's technically possible and achievable with current hardware and tech.

    The governments' days of silencing discord are over. Their days of steamrolling the people are over. Their information-control and physical means to compel compliance are running down to zero rapidly.

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  75. what good is a phone call when you can't speak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what good is a phone call when you can't speak

  76. Are Deaf People Immune? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, would $2 earplugs be the countermeasure?

  77. Pretty easy to defeat...am I missing something? by DSS11Q13 · · Score: 1

    all you would have to do is plug your ears

  78. Silence telemarketers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can this be adapted to work with a telephone to silence telemarketers and political calls?

  79. reminds me of a short storry by rmelton · · Score: 1

    reminds me of a short story.

    A professor in a pub tells a story about a student that doesn't pay attention to details in class. This student builds a sound canceling box... He puts it in a concert hall on a performance night. The crowd erupts into applause and there is nothing but silence. The professor explains that the student forgot that energy could not be created or destroyed. The sound had to go somewhere. So this little box was not just canceling the sound, it was "absorbing" it. The box explodes...

    Fiction of course but I remember really liking the stories because they always had some different perspective. I read the book years ago and can't remember the title or author?

  80. The Fenton Silencer, at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indeed

  81. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A way for someone to get a word in on a Bill O'Reilly interview.

  82. Just in time! by Sez+Zero · · Score: 2

    Excellent! Just in time for election-year debates.

    Moderator: No, Senator, your time really is over.
    Senator: Marg garbele gabble gabbblarp!

  83. Most importantly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it can be used on Ann Coulter or Bill O'Reilly, I can only see this invention as a positive for mankind.

  84. A better use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if I can use this to stop my wife's snoring. :-)

  85. Plug your ears? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could you just plug your ears while you speak? I think this could block the annoying feedback and allow you to continue speaking.

  86. Practical... by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

    Does it work on girlfriends? Where can I get one?

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    1. Re:Practical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wallmart. Look for Ducktape.

  87. Good application to with this technology by fluffythedestroyer · · Score: 1

    Why all the bad press about this technology.

    I can see some good use with this technology with more research of course. I may go too far but think about the good use. You could impliment this technology in homes, appartement to cut the noise level. Lots of people are complaining in apparments and homes because tenants are too loud (sex ?, yelling at kids ?). With this, no more noise complaints. Same thing with houses, impliment a similar device near your home to cut the traffic noise, this way your home value won't go down. I know lots of houses looses value because of traffic noise.

    Noise pollution is not something to avoid or underestimate, this is a big in cities. Lots of cities are building big walls near highway to cut the noise. With more research I guess this could be used and could save some millions and probably lots of structure maintenance since it could be a small (smaller than those walls anyway).

  88. Agent Smith: by WilyCoder · · Score: 1

    "What good is a phone call, Mr Anderson, if you are unable to speak?"

    MMMM!!!!! mmm!!!! MMMM!!!

  89. So what happens if.... by mark-t · · Score: 1

    ... the person they are trying to quiet is also carrying one of these and points it at somebody pointing one at him? Would it not create an ever-escalating volume of noise, akin to microphone feedback?

    1. Re:So what happens if.... by Schz · · Score: 1

      I'm envisioning two of these pointed at each other, one modified to have, say, a 1.9s delay. Then clap your hands between the two of them.

  90. dream come true. by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

    It sounds like a conservative gun-nut's dream...Use the 2nd Amendment to violate the 1st Amendment from up to 30ft away.

  91. Being able to go to family gatherings... Priceless by Cyberia · · Score: 1

    Speech Jammer? Just a few words to calculate it's worth: Mother in-law

  92. Science museum? by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    Many science museums have an exhibit that does much the same thing. You wear headphones that feed your speech back to you with a delay. What is unique about this device is the apparent ability to send the delayed sound in a focused beam over a substantial distance.

    Any nerd who has tried one of the museum exhibits this has surely also learned to defeat it. It takes a bit of concentration, but in very few tries you can talk while ignoring what your are hearing. Perhaps not as fluently, but it is possible.

    Nonetheless, this invention can be - and will be - misused to silence political speech.

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    1. Re:Science museum? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Nonetheless, this invention can be - and will be - misused to silence political speech.

      I think it more likely that the thing will never be used at all.

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  93. so... by rocket+rancher · · Score: 1

    ...anybody know a deaf person that wants to make some side cash by attending political rallies with me? The pay will be commensurate with their auditory deficit. Wait, scratch that -- just found my Sennheiser buds with the active noise canx.

  94. simpler countermeasure: earplugs. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    n/t

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  95. A bag full of it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't need this gun, I have a bag full of sshhh, with your name on it...

  96. Married Men Rejoiced in the Streets Today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the greatest invention since ear-plugs department...

  97. Talk to the hand... by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

    From TFA:

    "...an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you might’ve experienced the same effect if you’ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). According to the researchers, DAF doesn’t cause physical discomfort, but the fact that you’re unable to talk is obviously quite stressful."

    I thought it did something neat like send out sound cancelling vibrations that actually stopped the sound from traveling through air but this gadget actually relies on a psychological reaction to hearing your own voice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_Auditory_Feedback). Might work on nice polite Japanese people, not sure it would work on people who just don't care or who care enough about what they're saying to tolerate the 'stress' of the audio feedback. It also doesn't seem very difficult to get around to me...a decent set of earplugs should do it.

    Failing that, if this does actually work I'm sure someone could come up with a voice jamming jammer :-) /facepalm

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  98. THIS WILL NEVER WORK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was going to make a post in all caps poking fun at this but apparently Slashdot already implements similar technology.

  99. An excellent defense... by dsvilko · · Score: 1

    against spellcasters!

  100. Easy workaround by sarysa · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read TFA and there seems to be a really easy workaround, and politicians making speeches can easily utilize it.

    The speaker can simply block their ears. The gun works by sending the speaker's audio back to them with a delay.

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    1. Re:Easy workaround by rainmouse · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The speaker can simply block their ears. The gun works by sending the speaker's audio back to them with a delay.

      True but for silencing people who love the sound of their own voice this may be a godsend. Imagine staggering home at 4am to find the angry wife waiting up to give you hell and you pull this beast out and silence her.
      So far I have not found one on ebay yet..... I'll check again tomorrow.

    2. Re:Easy workaround by sarysa · · Score: 2

      Plan B is always rushing the gun owner, grabbing it out of their hand, smashing it, and then yelling at them. She'll probably figure that out pretty quickly.

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      Charisma is the measure of someone's ability to lie with a straight face.
    3. Re:Easy workaround by camperslo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The speaker can simply block their ears. The gun works by sending the speaker's audio back to them with a delay.

      Ahhh yes... people that listen to themselves delayed tends to slow down to nothing and stop. It messes up people on call-in talk radio, and some in radio too. People in broadcasting often listen to themselves as heard on the air in headphones and there many be a significant delay when net latency and satellite links are in the loop. They learn to cope, but it isn't easy. Even phase flippers can drive a person nuts. Voice is rich in even harmonics due to a lack of symmetry in the waveform which has a spikier character in one direction. In a.m. broadcasting some audio processing gear senses the stronger peaks and on the fly inverts the signal to make the higher level modulate the a.m. carrier up to 125% modulation. The signal can't go below nothing when the audio is reducing the r.f. envelope, but there's no limit other than an arbitrary regulation in the other direction. Anyway, an announcer hears a combination of his voice directly and what comes through the headphones, and the combination is awful when the phases don't agree. It jumping back and forth is torture for them. But if they listen to unprocessed audio, they don't have as good a feel for the mix so they usually endure.
      And people thought only the audience was tortured by radio...

    4. Re:Easy workaround by sarysa · · Score: 1

      You know, this inspires me to another possible workaround: talking slowly. Ttthhheee dddiiifffeeerrreeennnccceee aaattt ttthhhiiisss rrraaattteee might not be mentally jarring enough to trigger the effect.

      I bet something similar (albeit with reduced range) could be put together with off-the-internet parts. Seems more like a great way to be a pain in the arse than for [insert your least favorite politician here] to take over the world.

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    5. Re:Easy workaround by camperslo · · Score: 1

      There are inexpensive chips that were intended for things like concert hall effects etc for rear channels in audio systems that could likely be configured to do what was described. Some of the chips used for time compression might be fun, delaying the echo, but it streaming faster at normal pitch once it started. That could allow a time window to insert additional speech. Tourette Syndrome?

      I'll would also be fun to do speech recognition, and change certain words, maybe have the delayed audio come back in another gender or strange voice. It could be like mocking someone. A digital heckler. Hmmmm. People might actually buy those.
      Something handy for the last word in arguments? There might be a product liability issue though, if people were annoyed enough to become abusive.

      Even a simple version for the car might be popular, honking back automatically. But if two people have them.... A good twist for sci-fi. All of the Earths' people died off, but the conversations keep echoing. Throw in a smart machine or to. Eliza, where are you? Okay, a neurotic machine.

    6. Re:Easy workaround by RobDollar · · Score: 1

      "I've already told you to shut up with my mouth"

    7. Re:Easy workaround by mjwx · · Score: 1

      The speaker can simply block their ears. The gun works by sending the speaker's audio back to them with a delay.

      True but for silencing people who love the sound of their own voice this may be a godsend. Imagine staggering home at 4am to find the angry wife waiting up to give you hell and you pull this beast out and silence her.
      So far I have not found one on ebay yet..... I'll check again tomorrow.

      I want one just to silence the sales drone 3 cubes over.

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    8. Re:Easy workaround by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed this thing is crap - the reason people stop talking on the phone when there is a delay isn't some limitation of human perception or some hard wired response - it is because they know there is a technical malfunction with the technology they are using and that they need to slow down their speaking to figgure out that problem / ensure they are intelligible on the other end. If you know that this thing is being used, you simply don't pay attention to the sound coming back and continue talking, problem solved.

      crap!

    9. Re:Easy workaround by adolf · · Score: 1

      Yep.

      See also: Haas effect.

    10. Re:Easy workaround by Metabolife · · Score: 2

      Try it out on yourself:

      http://www.speechmonitor.org/

      I can still talk though...

    11. Re:Easy workaround by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine staggering home at 4am to find the angry wife waiting up to give you hell and you pull this beast out and silence her.
          So far I have not found one on ebay yet.....

      You won't find a wife on eBay. Try Craigslist.

  101. Should I have patented my "Cone of Silence?" by jerryjnormandin · · Score: 1

    When I was a little kid there was a show called "Get Smart".. it was in syndication but I watched it after supper. When I was 18 years old I designed gadgets. One gadget had a microphone, amplfied what it picked up and inverted the signal 180 degrees. I used an OpAMP to invert the signal, and also there was a potentiometer in the circuit so I can vary the signal phase. If you pointed a speaker connected the amp to the sound source that the microphone was pointing to you can cancel out most of the sound. I used a horned loudspeaker.. kind of like a megaphone. microphone was mounted below the speaker. OK so it looked kind of like a sound canceling gun. I made a lot of crazy gadgets when I was a kid. I also made a remote controlled fire alarm so if you are cooking and the alarm goes you can hit the remote and disable the alarm for 10 minutes.

  102. User of voice silencer gun silenced by real gun by wbhauck · · Score: 1

    So the idea is that someone in an audience is going to point this thing that looks like a hand-held mini missile launcher at a politician and silence them. How are they aiming this device? Oh, a laser pointer. Like you might find on a rifle.

    If you happen to be by this person I suggest you move before the real guns with their laser sights start firing.

    1. Re:User of voice silencer gun silenced by real gun by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      I don't think it would be all that difficult to build one that looks like a camera.

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  103. Dumb (pun intended) idea. by DLG · · Score: 1

    The article uses a technique to basically cause discomfort for a person trying to speak, by creating an audio feedback directed at them. They point out that it is similar to the annoying experience of hearing yourself during a skype (or conference call) which can disrupt your chain of thought.

    The goal is to silence someone who is speaking to establish presence rather than contribute ideas.

    In my experience what this does is disrupt the ability to keep track of what you are saying, but for someone who is speaking to hear their own voice (as we say idiomatically) this is entirely counter-productive. Furthermore a person who is a good speaker learns to concentrate through this. Anyone who has ever spoken in a hall where there is large enough space to create an audio delay, has heard their voice come back to them. Basically you learn to filter it out.

    I am not saying it isn't annoying. I am saying that anyone who has a prepared statement can easily bypass it and anyone who is just ranting without concern for making sense, can do so. It is only someone who is actually trying to think about what they are saying, that will have some hardship.

    This is pretty much the technically equivalent of someone echoing you (which siblings do).

    I hope they got lots of money to develop this.

  104. copyright infringement by aenigmainc · · Score: 2

    if what i say is copyrighted, and they play it back without my consent, can i sue? or better yet just use music then get the RIAA involved. they seem to have a lot of lawyers.

  105. Mildly effective by ArmchairGeneral · · Score: 1

    When I first read the headlines I thought it was some amazing technology, but then after reading it, I saw it was merely a psychological trick. It would only affect you momentarily while you gather your wits, and even less time now that you know they've made a 'gun' to do just this.

    When they create a gun to do this , then we'll be really onto silencing people.

    1. Re:Mildly effective by jvkjvk · · Score: 1

      You are pretty funny.

      "Merely a psychological trick".

      I hope you know that it's not a "trick" it's an observed result of stimulus to a human being. Repeatable and effective, even if you know about the "reason" behind it.

      You seem to believe that once you know about it you would be immune - "affect you momentarily".

      This simply does not make any sense. It's not the type of thing where you go "Ha ha, oh, now i see the trick - just do *this*!"

      It's probably more the type of thing where it takes experience, practice and a conscious effort of will to continue speaking. Even then, I would suspect that your brain is taking up a bunch of extra cycles that you could have used to be more effective in the communication.

      I suggest you find a way to try it and report on how easy it was before posting something like this again.

      Regards.

  106. what a BRILLIANT IDEA by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

    Oh, I love the consensus bunnies!

    Silence the stronger, louder voices!

    Let everyone's solution to the math problem have its time on the board-- no matter how whacked!

    Let a thousand flowers bloom! The oppression of those who are more correct, must end!

    Equal turns for all, even if it means putting weights on the strong, and silencing the eloquent!

  107. The Obligatory harry potter spell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Silencio

  108. I learned to defeat this in high school by Skapare · · Score: 1

    I did some of the football announcements while in high school. We had to learn to ignore our own voice. I did suggest ear plugs, but was told it wasn't hard to learn to ignore the PA system echos. And he was right. Just a little practice and you no longer hear it. So for people like me, this device will be ineffective. If it gets used widely, I suspect its effectiveness will, over time, wear off.

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  109. Please use this in political debates. by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

    Every bloody time I watch one, there's always the one idiot the moderator has to argue with for hours that his turn is up.
    Would be so much easier just to go "Time's up!" *zap*

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    1. Re:Please use this in political debates. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Each of the idiots has a microphone. The moderator could turn it off. He doesn't.

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    2. Re:Please use this in political debates. by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

      Really now? We need harsher moderators then -,-

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  110. Political Speeches? by AdamJS · · Score: 1

    This seems like a great tool to make a debate opponent screw up.

  111. working around a technical problem by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    I understand that's a way of 'amplifying' speech without (enough?) equipment

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  112. Read the article, internet atheists by kubernet3s · · Score: 1

    Sweet Jesus. TFA itself makes it very clear exactly what this is, and yet STILL has the same stupid, overblown reaction as this thread. All the gun does is beam a slightly delayed copy of your own words back at you, so if you try to start talking out of turn, you will have the urge to not speak. Should you wish to continue being a loud jackass, for example when you are telling the kid from the mailroom how great Ron Paul is with such effort as to shake pieces of Rice-Krispie treat from your neckbeard, you can of course power through the discomfort, or plug your ears, which you do anyway. This is not a silence spell, it simply makes it more difficult to speak when it is not appropriate for you to be speaking, with nothing other than a lingering feeling of discomfort. And it can be circumvented by wearing earplugs. Any totalitarian government trying to mobilize this for nefarious purposes will be sorely disappointed

  113. great idea! by jmb1990 · · Score: 0

    this invention will piss women off around the world but the best part is we won't hear them moan!

  114. If only... by Reasonable+Facsimile · · Score: 1

    ...they could combine it with this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note

  115. Pardon me.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For being so rude as to attempt to speak while you were interrupting.

  116. How to defeat it by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

    Just...pretend...that...you..ARE..Shatner. Or speak. Like someone. Reading autocue.

  117. You have the right to remain silent by gstrickler · · Score: 1

    by our choice.

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  118. teleprompter by necode · · Score: 0

    Can somebody please attach this device to the teleprompter of current occupier of the White House? As a public favour.

  119. Native Americans by merxete · · Score: 0

    The natives used a stick to determine who talks. Leave it to those industrious (nerdy?) japanese to rely on some electronic gadgetry. ;)

  120. Congress by ClosedEyesSeeing · · Score: 1

    Anyone who watched the House debates on SOPA would appreciate this in keeping the representatives in line when attempting to make points during their 5 minutes.

  121. A recording of this effect in action by DarkSkiez · · Score: 1

    This clip if of a radio presenter trying to speak when this effect is applied, its quite astounding:

    http://radiofail.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/dj-in-delayed-headphones-fail/

    1. Re:A recording of this effect in action by DarkSkiez · · Score: 1
  122. Well there goes our Constitutional rights by StillNeedMoreCoffee · · Score: 1

    For those of us in the US the right to free speech could be abridged with this. The Republicans have tried "Free Speech Zones", Throwing people out, limiting who is allowed at a venue, but at the same time delivering hecklers to town hall meetings. It seems someone wants it both ways.

    The obvious next step in the arms race is a speech jammer jammer. Which could use active sound suppression like the noise canceling headphones. Where my patent application, its here somewhere.

    1. Re:Well there goes our Constitutional rights by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

      eh, who knows.

  123. Excellent idea! by golodh · · Score: 1
    I have long been frustrated by anti-social elements who blithely refuse to shut their goshdarn trap in the library (public or university), the silence centre in airports, silence compartments in trains, near the "focus cublicles" at the office, the theatre, the opera, concerts, etc..

    Then there are those boorish churls who insist on loud-mouthing at meetings when they have not been given the floor or when their speaking time is up.

    This technological stop on irritating, boorish, anti-social yapping is exactly what I suspect many people have been waiting for. Highly recommended!

  124. Silence noisy neighbors by johnb10001 · · Score: 1

    I could use something like this to silence the neighbors barking dogs and the sound of the "big foot" stomping around upstairs.

  125. Missing /. meme by IwantToKeepAnon · · Score: 1

    Come on someone. Let me start you off:

    In Soviet Russia the (_____) (_____)s you.

    Choices: govt, guns, silence, KGB, mafia, etc...

    The way most Russians talk (animated, loud, etc...) is sometimes sounds like a screaming and fighting. Does that make it right to use the gun on anyone you feel like?

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  126. I want one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be great for silencing a couple of blowhard rightwing nutcases at the coffee shop every morning.

  127. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Best way yet to shorten THOSE speeches.

    "First off, I would like the thank the academy...."

  128. But will it work on the ASBO chick? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 1

    Will it work for that lady who got hit with a court order because she was too loud during sex, causing the neighbors to complain. Or does general moaning and screaming get past it?

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  129. Simple workaround: wear earplugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's actually not effecitve for suppressing dissent, as there are simple workarounds. Just turn up your headphones and listen to the hiss or anything to drown out the delayed echo, and the problem goes away. (The same techniques help stutterers, who have this problem innately.)

    It's a very effective "annoyer" or "hassler", but it's not effective in the face of moderate effort to overcome it.

  130. Harrison Bergeron by digitect · · Score: 1

    Yet another tool in the arsenal of the Handicapper General.

    (Obligatory reference to Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s Harrison Bergeron .)

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  131. Simpler solution by craigminah · · Score: 0

    I have a speech-jamming fist that is effective from 1.5 meters. Cost nothing in R&D or O&M and it is very effective.

  132. Hmmm by zmollusc · · Score: 1

    How long would it take to learn to talk through this kind of interference? People learn how to talk over others' interruptions so, with practice, I reckon it should be possible to overcome this device.

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  133. Godsend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A godsend for this administration

  134. the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    law will make it a felony to point it at an official, while if you are off the street it's open hunting season.

    People should condsider this an invisible attack on your physical body.

  135. Skype and AT&T by rullywowr · · Score: 1

    Doesn't Skype and AT&T sometimes have this feature built in already?

  136. Fatal Flaw... by David_Hart · · Score: 1

    I'm willing to bet that this device has the same fatal flaw of most electronics, water... I'm thinking that throwing water at this device could render it useless pretty quick....

  137. Speech Jamming Gun? by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

    I always thought a .357 could accomplish this already...Just displaying it causes people to shut the F up.

    1. Re:Speech Jamming Gun? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I always thought a .357 could accomplish this already...Just displaying it causes people to shut the F up.

      Using a .357 to enforce silence in a library is kind of counter productive wouldn't you think.

      It wont work in the long run, people who are big enough douchebags to shout in a library will just stare at you with their cap turned sideways and say "dont shoot me bro".

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  138. Perfect tools for Political Speeches!!!! by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

    We can effectively stop the nonsense from being uttered by backwards, Bible-thumping, anti-technology politicians. We just need to make sure those with half a brain in the heads bring these to the various Republican conventions and use them EXCEPT when Ron Paul speaks. Maybe, then his voice and superior intellect will be heard by even the most backwards of Americans.

    Yes...I am NOT a Republican...but would consider Ron Paul.

  139. Would have been a great marriage gift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every couple needs one of these

  140. There's no need for the 200ms delay by grumpyman · · Score: 1

    If it's about annoying the speaker... just fire off Lady Gaga's latest hit directed at the speaker.

  141. Great for all the Husbands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the husbands will buy this for that peaceful time at home :)

  142. Por que no se calla! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If only this was developed 13 years ago when Chavez took over in Venezuela...

  143. Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit.

  144. Speaking of clichés... by homejapan · · Score: 1

    Seriously? The invention is about some Hollywood-cliché Asian "loss of face" thing?

    How about this instead: Some researchers experimented with a technology for the sake of discovery, and in doing so, listed potential applications that reflect the researchers' own brainstorming, and not necessarily the opinions or ideas of "the Japanese" (who, I wager, were most definitely not consulted in the matter).

    It's a more reasonable scenario than people developing technology expressly to combat "unspeakable loss of status".

    (Incidentally, why is Mr Akusake shouting so much, anyway? Maybe he's demanding to know how he got that un-Japanese name. : )

  145. Bullhorns are cheap. by jcr · · Score: 1

    Taking a quick look around the web, I find that I can buy many different makes and models for under $50. Problem solved.

    -jcr

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  146. Won't it work the other way around? by layer3switch · · Score: 1

    Especially for people who just "love" to hear themselves talk, won't this device actually "amplify" their own voice and take pleasure in hearing their own voices... besides, people like that barely listen to anything anyways, to implement this in US style town hall meeting, that thing better have a bullet.

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  147. Adapted for internet? by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    Just to silence all the trolls? Please?

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  148. Won't work on frequent internet telephony users by OneAhead · · Score: 1
    From TFA

    The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker. This triggers an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you might’ve experienced the same effect if you’ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). According to the researchers, DAF doesn’t cause physical discomfort, but the fact that you’re unable to talk is obviously quite stressful.

    Yes, I've experienced this phenomenon, and yes, it's amazing just how badly it affects one's speech... for a while. Just one hour per week fighting with one's own echo for a few months, and one gets used to it, which would most probably imply immunity to the speech-jamming gun.

  149. Bah humbug! by Auldclootie · · Score: 1

    This would never work on me - I Skype too much to be deterred by my own echoes...

  150. Dr. Evil says "Zip it!" by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

    Zip it! ZIP IT! Look it's, Zippy Longstockings! When a problem comes a long, you must zip it! *whoo-tchk!* Zip it, and zip it good!

    Please tell me I'm not the only one who thought of that when they read the description.

  151. Obvious Use: Wizards by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Also Captain Marvel... Possibly a weapon against Justin Bieber.

  152. perfect for a home invaded by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    american idiot

  153. I find ti difficult to believe this sentence by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

    The gun has two purposes, according to the researchers: At its most basic, this gun could be used in libraries and other quiet spaces to stop people from speaking â"

    Which is perhaps the single weirdest sentence I've ever read on Slashdot.

  154. neutralize the gun with earplugs and practice by ffflala · · Score: 1

    The gun works by listening in with a directional microphone, and then, after a short delay of around 0.2 seconds, playing it back with a directional speaker. This triggers an effect that psychologists call Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF), which has long been known to interrupt your speech (you mightâ(TM)ve experienced the same effect if youâ(TM)ve ever heard your own voice echoing through Skype or another voice comms program). According to the researchers, DAF doesnâ(TM)t cause physical discomfort...

    Privacy issues aside, as a practical matter the DAF effect can be neutralized with training. What the "gun" does is replay your words back at you with a short delay.

    One can quickly get used to speaking through this kind of interference. While it's confusing for common speech, delay is frequently intentionally used in musical contexts. With a delay and a microphone, you can practice talking over yourself until you're used to the interference. It doesn't take long at all to get to the point where DAF will not interrupt your speech..

    And since they're blasting a directed audio signal at you, earplugs would reduce or eliminate the effect of the DAF.

  155. Regular gun by kmoser · · Score: 1

    Surely a regular gun can be used to accomplish all of these same things.

  156. Hehehe.... by wvczombie · · Score: 1

    If you don't shut up, I'll shut you up!

  157. For Parents? by laerh · · Score: 1

    Imagine what parents would pay for such a device. I would have forked over a least a months pay...

  158. I can silence the abuse by NSN+A392-99-964-5927 · · Score: 1

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  159. Perfect ! by leadfile · · Score: 1

    I want this for my next anniversary gift. I wonder if we can give them in advance this year...

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