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LinkedIn Profiles Contain Fewer Lies Than Resumes

RichDiesal writes "New research reveals that personal information provided on LinkedIn may contain fewer deceptions about prior work experience and prior work responsibilities than traditional resumes. However, LinkedIn profiles contain more deceptions about personal interests and hobbies. This researchers believe this may be because participants are equally motivated to deceive employers in both settings, but perceive lies about work experience on LinkedIn as more easily verifiable."

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  1. bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    my linkedin has me working at aperture science as a research facilitator and a security guard at black mesa

  2. Trust, but verify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reagan said it best: Trust, but verify.

    1. Re:Trust, but verify by toadlife · · Score: 2

      An empty and contradictory phrase. The need to verify implies the absence of trust.

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    2. Re:Trust, but verify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reagan didn't coin that. He was quoting a famous Russian expression:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify

  3. Bullshit on your bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even it were true, folks who were checking up on you would find folks linked to you and well to make a long story short, eventually they'd find out the truth.

    Then you'd be known for the bullshitter that you are.

    1. Re:Bullshit on your bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, he's not bullshitting. I remember working with this guy at Black Mesa. He kept fraternizing with one of the scientists and got fired for it. It was strange because that scientist never said a word...

  4. Different target audiences by belthize · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A resume is typically viewed by an employer so the incentive is to be honest about hobbies and lie about experience.

    LinkedIn is typically viewed by friends and acquaintances so the incentive is to be honest about work and lie about hobbies.

    Nothing terribly profound.

    1. Re:Different target audiences by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A resume is typically viewed by an [personnel department screeners who know almost nothing at all about the work which would be done for the] employer so the incentive is to be honest about hobbies and lie about experience.

      LinkedIn is typically viewed by friends and acquaintances so the incentive is to be honest about work and lie about hobbies.

      Nothing terribly profound.

      The goal of a resume is to get a foot in the door. After that, it's backing it up in interviews.

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    2. Re:Different target audiences by Cederic · · Score: 2

      I'm currently job hunting. I check up the people that will be interviewing me on LinkedIn. I find out who I know that knows them, or knows their contacts.

      The UK only has 60 million people in it. Narrow down to people working in my field, in the industries I have experience in, in the regions of the UK in which I've worked, and LinkedIn interconnects around two-thirds of the people I search for.

      So my CV aligns to my LinkedIn profile. Same jobs, same timeframes, and my LinkedIn contacts are available if people want to verify my history.

      More interesting are the number of potential employers and job agencies that approach me because of my LinkedIn profile. So yeah, they're already aware, and they will notice if my CV differs, on work experience or hobbies.

      My hobbies are diverse and cause a degree of interest in other people anyway, so they're easy to tell the truth about. That's not why they're my hobbies, but it's a nice way to end your CV anyway.

  5. Skill checkbox by griff199 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Although not a lie per se, what does checking a box labeled "Troubleshooting" mean in the context of an automation engineer? I've been at this since 2003 and have seen a *wide* range of troubleshooting skills both high and low. LinkedIn encourages everyone to go ahead and check that box. So while it isn't full of lies, I believe is full of exceedingly watered down truths.

    1. Re:Skill checkbox by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Funny

      what does checking a box labeled "Troubleshooting" mean in the context of an automation engineer?

      You just generally have to hit 'em about center-mass. Not a lot different from most other engineers. I usually shoot when they mention "unit testing."

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  6. One lie to rule them all by lucm · · Score: 2

    Since LinkedIn is there, it has become much more tricky to lie on a resume because there is always the possibility that the recipient of the lies stumble upon the discrepancies.

    So for the last year or so, whenever I have to send a resume I simply send the PDF that I can get from my LinkedIn profile. And if I have to lie (like hiding my VB6 experience or the fact that I used to work for Enron), I do it on LinkedIn.

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    1. Re:One lie to rule them all by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      Since LinkedIn is there, it has become much more tricky to lie on a resume because there is always the possibility that the recipient of the lies stumble upon the discrepancies.

      So for the last year or so, whenever I have to send a resume I simply send the PDF that I can get from my LinkedIn profile. And if I have to lie (like hiding my VB6 experience or the fact that I used to work for Enron), I do it on LinkedIn.

      I have a bogus name on my LinkedIn account. I've about half filled in my stuff, stopping when I felt it was too intrusive. I look once in a while, to see what garbage is on there for me to look at. LinkedIn == Myspace for "professionals"

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    2. Re:One lie to rule them all by lucm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a bogus name on my LinkedIn account. I've about half filled in my stuff, stopping when I felt it was too intrusive. I look once in a while, to see what garbage is on there for me to look at. LinkedIn == Myspace for "professionals"

      If you don't take it seriously and you just put in bogus info and/or collect connections like business cards, then yes, it is useless and noisy (unless you are a headhunter). But if you take time to setup a proper profile, disable noisy features and maintain a relevant network of connections, it can bring interesting opportunities. For my last two contracts I was contacted via a LinkedIn reference and never sent a resume. (And I'm not talking about mass-mailing from head hunters but contacts from actual connections).

      I don't buy much into the "give a reference" feature, but I know that potential (and current) clients have been looking at who are my connections to get an idea of who I am. Which is why I have only a handful of high-quality, relevant connections.

      But hey, if you enjoy doodling around in Word every time you want to switch jobs or apply for a RFP, be my guest.

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    3. Re:One lie to rule them all by tero · · Score: 4, Informative

      The "privacy is for old people"-line from LinkedIn founder made me quit the site - there's nothing profesional about LinkedIn - jut another "social" site hoovering info about you.

      http://www.cenedella.com/job-search/privacy-is-for-old-people-says-linked-in-founder/

  7. Guilt Keeps People Honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    LinkedIn profiles probably contain more accurate info because you're still connected to past employers and co-workers, many who you may look to for endorsements. I believe the guilt of lying or embellishing and having your former peers and bosses see it is enough for most to avoid doing it. I once had a former co-worker request an endorsement from me. After reading through their profile I couldn't do it. Not only did they lie about their experience but much of the experience they claimed to have matched real experience I possess. So I'd be endorsing their fake work experience and building up a potential competitor for future jobs.

    1. Re:Guilt Keeps People Honest by uncqual · · Score: 3, Insightful

      building up a potential competitor for future jobs

      I would hope that this would not be a factor in recommendations or endorsements among technical colleagues. Of course, the inaccuracies would be more than enough to decline giving a reference.

      When giving a reference, I try to imagine that the person I'm talking to hires the person we are talking about (independent of if I give a positive, lukewarm or, even, a negative recommendation) and, two years hence, I'm interviewing with the same company and they remember both the content of my reference and how the person turned out. I'd like to hear:

      Oh yes, I don't recall if you remember giving a reference for Jake a couple years ago. We hired him and it turns out you were spot on with the reference you gave. [ "We are so happy we hired him as you recommended." | "We really wish we had weighed your reference more highly and not hired him." ]

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  8. People and Places Vouching You? by Walt+Sellers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can say "I worked there" but its harder to get a bunch of other people to say the same, especially people with active profiles.

    I trust a LinkedIn reference more when a person has several links to people who also worked there.

    I heard someone say the looked at candidates' "net tracks". They looked for forum contributions, blog entries, Google results, etc.

    1. Re:People and Places Vouching You? by someonestolecc · · Score: 2

      This is true, but consider that in the company I am currently working in we have an ex-staff member that wasn't that great. In fact, not so great that over a year onward he still appears in our company page as one of the higher ups (at least by title). I've tried to flag it multiple times but LinkedIn support came back with something to the effect of "yeah we get it but every time you say he's not in the company, we tell him to update his details.. ultimately it's user generated however".. the inference is if you get flagged they just ask you to update your profile. Obviously he's choosing to keep this active for what ever reason (or just ignoring it all) - but I think no matter what it looks as if he's associated with the company for anyone who looks at us on LinkedIn. Pretty shit.

  9. It's easy to lie on linkedin by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody really believes the stuff on linkedin will be checked.

    We used to look at our former coworkers profiles and laugh. Sure, they're full of exaggerations, lies, etc. The problem with verifying them is that most employers have a strict policy that they will only verify the start and end dates an employee worked, nothing else. In some places it's the law, in other places they just don't want lawsuits from former employees. And in some cases, they're just hoping that their biggest competitor hires the t*rd and ends up costing them a bundle.

    If someone called, there was no way we would say "that's a lie." We would confirm only the duration of employment, say that they left with no hard feelings, we wish them the best in their new endeavors, thank you very much have a nice day click!

    There's nothing to stop a dozen people creating fake linkedin profiles, as well as a phony website (what - $8 a year?) and giving each other references.

    They want to call head office? A burn phone is $25 a month. Split the cost among the dozen and it's $2 a month each. Or just list your former employer as a recent corporate bankruptcy - there's enough of them around.

    Faxes? "We don't do faxes - what is this, the stone age?" Create the head office in some area far enough away, and all they can do is google earth it.

    "But if the employer finds out, they can fire you!" ... so what - in the meantime, you have a job. And they won't even bother if you list a bankrupt biz no longer in operation as your former employer.

    To paraphrase Tennyson:

    I hold it true, whate'er befall;
    I feel it, when I sorrow most;
    'Tis better* to have had a job and lost
    Than never to have had a job at all.

    *or at least more profitable.

    Now, would I lie? Are you kidding? The truth is awesome* enough :-p

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    1. Re:It's easy to lie on linkedin by roc97007 · · Score: 2

      > If someone called, there was no way we would say "that's a lie." We would confirm only the duration of employment, say that they left with no hard feelings, we wish them the best in their new endeavors, thank you very much have a nice day click!

      That's very commendable.

      A former boss, after a 3 month break-in period, called the entire team into a conference room, shut the door, and told us quietly that as these things required his approval, none of us would ever transfer out of the department, would never be promoted, and if we quit, he knew how to handle employment verification calls in such a way as to give the other party the impression we were worthless, while staying within the letter of the law. He made no bones about it, demonstrating to us the way to handle a call in such a way that the hiring manager wanted to hire you, and in such a way that the hiring manager would not hire you. He made it very clear that we were absolutely at his mercy.

      I got out, and got a real job elsewhere. But as far as I know my former compatriots are still there, and their lives are a living hell.

      Just saying'.

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    2. Re:It's easy to lie on linkedin by deadhammer · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't have made it to the end of that meeting. I'd have left and been out the door the very second this douchenozzle opened his mouth. Well, at least the very second he mentioned the whole thing about the bad references.

      Of course, I do recognize that there are good economic reasons for not being able to do so. But hell, telemarketers are always hiring and will give you a million times more job satisfaction than working under someone like that.

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    3. Re:It's easy to lie on linkedin by RsG · · Score: 2

      Second that. I've had bad bosses (and a few good ones), and I would never, ever trust the worst of them to be an employment reference.

      If an employer tries to assert control by intimidation, to the effect of "quit and you'll never get a job again", they're bluffing. They know that the moment you turn in your notice, their control over your future goes out the window. They don't want you to realize this. Mostly because, if they're the sort who resorts to intimidation, they're also the sort who can't afford to rely on employee goodwill.

      Most future employers will not expect to speak to all of your previous employers, and as long as you yourself aren't the problem, there will be other references you can use. Plus, if you apply for a job while holding an existing one, they generally won't insist on contacting your current employer, meaning the best time to jump ship from a toxic boss is while still employed.

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  10. Example of a LinkedIn lie by reason · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had a grad student last year who stopped showing up after the first few weeks, and eventually had his studentship discontinued.

    Being a student here gave him an email address here and one at a university with which we had a collaborative arrangement.

    While he had it, he created a LinkedIn profile listing himself as a "Research Scientist" here and a "Software Development Consultant" at the other university. He then proceeded to connect through LinkedIn with others who work at both organisations who didn't know him, but who probably thought they should, given the relevant email address and link requests. He was careful not to try to link this fraudulent account with anyone who did know him and his real position here.

    The profile is still there. I don't know whether it is to protect his ego (he seems to have problems in that area) or whether he is using it to fraudulently get consulting contracts. Guess I should do something about it, but I don't want to stir up trouble.

    1. Re:Example of a LinkedIn lie by SydShamino · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is a serious problem for companies under SEC regulation. Everything said by a company representative (including associates like independent advisors) has to be pre-approved and logged. They even have to scan social media sites for people who mention the company name to see if they are giving advice or implying a recommendation for a product or service.

      My understanding is that LinkedIn and similar (Facebook) have varying degrees of support to clamp down on such fraud, ranging from annoying (USPS-mailed official letter on company letterhead by an executive, notarized, to the social media site) to nonexistent (no ability to remove the fraudulent profile).

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  11. Anecdote about Linkedin lies... by hiryuu · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the aftermath of an acrimonious divorce, someone pointed out my ex-wife's Linkedin profile. (I don't do social networking of any kind, so I never see nor go looking for these sorts of things.) Said ex-wife was an unemployed/underemployed "small business owner" with a penchant for dishonesty. For some time on Linkedin, she'd been listing the fictitious "John Smith Construction" (with my name in place of the obvious) as her employer, with "owner/wife" as her position. Yeesh.

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  12. I agree, its definately better by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 2

    Although people can game the system, at least there is a system. It is certainly better than just trusting a piece of paper.

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  13. Answers a lot. by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am on the "interview" team at work (interviewing candidates,) and I usually try to search for each applicant on LinkedIn, etc. I have noticed that when job titles differ from resume to LinkedIn, they are almost uniformly less-inflated on LinkedIn. (One applicant's resume read as almost completely different than their LinkedIn history - it even took effort to realize that the LinkedIn profile showed the contract agency, with the client company in the small print, while the resume showed only the client company, in nearly every job.)

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