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One Sci-Fi Author Wrote 29 of the Kindle's 100 Most-Highlighted Passages

An anonymous reader writes "Today Amazon announced that a science fiction writer has become the Kindle's all-time best-selling author. Last June Suzanne Collins, who wrote the Hunger Games trilogy, was only the fourth author to sell one million ebooks, but this month Amazon announced she'd overtaken all her competition (and she also wrote the #1 and #2 best-selling ebooks this Christmas). In fact, 29 of the 100 most-highlighted passages on the Kindle were written by Collins, including 7 of the top 10. And on a separate list of recent highlights, Collins has written 17 of the top 20 most-highlighted passages." It's pretty interesting to go through the top-100 list and look at the passages people think are worth highlighting. Taken out of context, many of them could be patched together and re-sold as a self-help book. None are quite so eloquent as #18 in the recent highlights.

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  1. great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I read book one of the series, and it was quite good. Much better than I expected. I have no idea how they are going to make the movie rated PG-13, considering all the awful stuff that happens to the kids in the book.

    1. Re:great book! by danbuter · · Score: 2

      Crap. I wasn't logged in. My comment. Great book for those interested. Kind of like The Running Man, but in many ways, much crueler.

    2. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Crap. I wasn't logged in. My comment. Great book for those interested. Kind of like The Running Man, but in many ways, much crueler.

      And a complete rip-off of Battle Royale. Skip it and just watch that instead.

    3. Re:great book! by MBCook · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree. I needed something to read early last summer. Based on hearing about it from a friend or two and all the promotion, I decided to give it a try. I was quite pleasantly surprised by the three books.

      I'm interested in seeing the movie. Some of the bits in the trailers look great to me, although I imagined District 12's town to be less rural and the fence more imposing. I agree that PG-13 is going to be an interesting challenge. Given it's a book in which, just based on the jacket, you know 23 kids should die means they're going to have to deal with violence issues. Of course there is no way they could make it R, it would cut out the movie's target audience.

      The movie has a big enough budget that they certainly should be able to do a good job. I hope it at least turns out decent.

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    4. Re:great book! by Ambvai · · Score: 2

      That was my first reaction, though I've seen plenty of entertaining books inspired by others. Has anybody that's read both Battle Royale [novel] and Hunger Games care to comment?

    5. Re:great book! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      Violence is OK. They just have to keep sex out of it.

      'The Gun is good. The penis is evil'

      (Anybody remember Zardoz? You do? I'm very sorry.)

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    6. Re:great book! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have no idea how they are going to make the movie rated PG-13, considering all the awful stuff that happens to the kids in the book.

      As the relieved father of a young woman who has finally made it into her twenties, I am keen to read some books where awful stuff happens to teenagers.

      Especially goths. Does anyone know if these books have awful stuff happening to goths? Oh, and horny teenage boys who are always hanging around. I could do with a book about awful stuff happening to horny teenage boys with adams apples and their parents' cars who are always hanging around trying to get daughters to go to parties at the homes of absent parents. That could be very entertaining. Dismemberment, maybe brutal beatings with baseball bats, like that. I may have to check out these books.

      Hey, they're making a movie of this Hunger Games stuff, right?

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    7. Re:great book! by khallow · · Score: 1

      As long as you don't start projectile vomiting piles of guns (pun not intended, but appreciated), I think you can survive exposure to Zardoz.

    8. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you read it? Good literature is good regardless of your age, and despite my initial doubts, this trilogy is actually good literature.

    9. Re:great book! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, I survived it, but I think it permanently scarred me.

      Sean Connery in a pink diaper with suspenders - one of those horrid images that pop into my consciousness at inappropriate moments.

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    10. Re:great book! by khallow · · Score: 2

      Sean Connery in a pink diaper with suspenders - one of those horrid images that pop into my consciousness at inappropriate moments.

      Legend has it that Connery was concerned that he would be forever shoehorned in the "suave spy" role of his James Bond movies and used Zardoz to shatter that stereotype utterly. I also imagine it was a lot more fun to be in the movie than to watch it.

    11. Re:great book! by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's much better to see kids die horrible deaths than to hear the F word a few times. (see the controversy over the R rating for "Bully")

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    12. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't worry, no one here is impressed with your intellect. You're free to read something purely for enjoyment.

    13. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Which was a rip-off of some Star Trek episode or Asimov story.

      No new ideas in the hopper.

    14. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Battle Royale was nothing like this, except "a bunch of kids are confined in an area and forced to kill each other". Why are they there? Who are they? How did they get there?

      Both books were completely different.

    15. Re:great book! by __aancvu2993 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't bother (or do, if you must). These books exploit the stupidity, the covardice of the masses revelling in violence because they are afraid of a society without it. Throw some 'wisdom' into it to give the text a resemblance of an intellectual edge and 95% of the rest can be violence, latent or explicit, which is what they understand, what they think they can manage. These poor excuses for a human being are the same who love the crap of Ayn Rand, or think The art of war or The prince are the pinnacles of human wisdom. Kierkegaard noted that men die for freedom of speech but happily forgo freedom of thought. Let them suffer if they cannot stand social pressure. I think everyone can agree on the effect time has on this garbage: not quite the same as it has on Aristotle, Democrit, Schopenhauer or -to name a contemporary- Einstein. But let the poor souls have their armchair violence, anything to appease the mildly horrifying feeling of having to be alive.

    16. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were probably all inspired by "The Lottery," a short story from 1948 that most all of us read in high school.

    17. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, it's a great book. If you're still in middle school.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit

    18. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, Zardoz wasn't a Bond film?

    19. Re:great book! by danbuter · · Score: 1

      And Battle Royale was a complete rip-off of Stephen King. Yet it's still very different from his story. Same with this.

    20. Re:great book! by khallow · · Score: 1

      If it was, then Bond shot Q twice (not that that's a bad thing). And there is an HMS Zardoz floating head roaming around the English countryside forever vigilant against the forces of evil, particularly that of sexual promiscuity.

    21. Re:great book! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he got to get up close and personal with Charlotte Rampling and a few other attractive actresses. Such sacrifices....

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    22. Re:great book! by danbuter · · Score: 2

      There's a very well-made (10 mins) fan movie of the Hunger Games that happened 24 years earlier than the one in the book (and the upcoming movie). No spoilers are included for the book and it will give you a great idea of what to expect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUjssn86h4

    23. Re:great book! by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      Ah come on! Zardoz is crap bit it's great fun. Really funny!

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    24. Re:great book! by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Read what you enjoy. That's the key to enjoying reading in general.

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    25. Re:great book! by FrootLoops · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What an asshole you are. You make up your own cultural norms by presumably abstracting from your personal experiences and then you passionately insult anyone who doesn't follow the limited views that result.

      Norm 1: people read books to be "enriched" by them as efficiently as possible ("Why go through all the trouble reading the Harry Potter or Hunger Games series when you could read Dr. Seuss's books and become three times as enriched in a fraction of the time?"). This is patently ridiculous. Books can be enriching, but they can also be guilty pleasures, pure entertainment, sleep-inducing material, or a host of other things. Moreover, books are different things to different people. Your own view of a book will probably not be very universal, and that's not a bad thing.

      Norm 2: an "adult or literate high-school upperclassman" should not promote a children's or young adult's ("Dick and Jane") series. Screw you; I'll recommend The Hobbit or Harry Potter or whatever I think is appropriate for whatever reason I feel like to whomever I wish. You're in no position to pre-judge the quality of my reasons in such a hypothetical case you judgmental prick. You're similarly in no position to judge the value of everyone's reasons for reading a particular book.

      You do have some good points--calling Twilight "good literature" is pretty silly using the usual definition of "literature"; most people on /. are literate adults; and Dr. Seuss' books are remarkably enriching, especially to the young. Your good points are buried in crap and shrouded in assholery today, though.

    26. Re:great book! by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Indeed. One of the original horror stories, so far as I'm concerned.

      Why? Because when you're in high-school, you believe that it's just a story. Later on, you find out it's a commentary on communities in general -> everyone goes along with a tradition / way of thought, because it's how they've always done things. The only people who call for change are those who find themselves the odd-man out, and typically only after they've been selected as a sacrifice; the people throwing stones are just happy it isn't them.

      To that end, Brave New World and 1984 are nightmares in their own right. Change = death, usually to the heretic. Just once in my lifetime, I'd like to see the gods say "No" to the status quo (and someone please protect me from the consequences of that wish, as someone who has read the HHGTTG might say (Arthur Dent and the Seer comes to mind)). A tale comes to mind, of the Babylonian king selecting another to be king for the day, only for said person to be sacrificed at the end of the day -> instead, the real king died, and left the other guy on the throne; apparently he ruled well. But I'd prefer a stronger, lasting dose; perhaps my own life is filled with too much bitterness.

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    27. Re:great book! by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      One of my favorite books to this day is Gemini Game, which is all about virtual reality games and a minor criminal conspiracy. It's set in a dystopian sort of future where nothing is really pointed out as bad but a smart kid will realize the implications (such as police being able to open any door by putting their badge against the lock).

    28. Re:great book! by arth1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was my first reaction, though I've seen plenty of entertaining books inspired by others. Has anybody that's read both Battle Royale [novel] and Hunger Games care to comment?

      I doubt there is a great overlap of audiences. The Hunger Games readers are, in my judgment, going to be Potterheads, not weaboos.
      Some of them might be old enough to have seen Schwarzenegger in The Running Man, but fewer will have read the book or have seen Series 7: The Contenders. And like with any fad, the majority will think it's new and groundbreaking.
      As long as it gets kids to read, I won't complain. Perhaps they'll pick up some other books later, and one day develop critical thinking.

    29. Re:great book! by arth1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Both books were completely different.

      As opposed to only one of them being completely different? Yes, I can believe you're a Hunger Games fan with that feat of logic.

      The two are as similar as "Ca Plane Pour Moi" and "Jet Boy, Jet Girl". That is, they're indistinguishable for an outsider, but different for those who are fans. But when you boil away the fat, the exact same riff or plot remains.

    30. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best. Post. Evar.

    31. Re:great book! by iamnobody2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      i've read battle royale 2 or 3 times and seen the film, and the hunger game trilogy. they have a number of striking similarities in events, situations, and themes, (of which i won't get into due to spoiler concerns) but are stylistically quite different. hunger games is more informed by celebrity culture and reality tv, and written for a young teen audience, battle royale is japanese pulp written for adults and gets more cerebral among a wider variety characters. hunger games is larger in scope then battle royale. running man, truman show, lord of the flies all sorta come from this tradition too, and share themes and situations as well. i enjoyed them both, found they were written competently and had fun, i wouldn't mistake either for high literature though

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    32. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This post goes to 11.

    33. Re:great book! by Krishnoid · · Score: 3, Funny
      The underpants gnomes were working way too hard.
      1. As the relieved father of a young woman who has finally made it into her twenties

      2. Identify target market
      3. I could do with a book about awful stuff happening to horny teenage boys with adams apples and their parents' cars who are always hanging around trying to get daughters to go to parties at the homes of absent parents.

      4. Write a book that can be as bad as a cheap romance novel and still appeal to your target market
      5. I may have to check out these books.

      6. Profit!
    34. Re:great book! by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People say the same about Harry Potter and Twilight. Those people should be smacked in their mouths with a rolled-up newspaper.

      You got modded troll, but you're right.

      People don't feel this way about Twilight because of the quality writing.

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    35. Re:great book! by ryanov · · Score: 0

      And so did my Firefox right after reading this post. Well done!

    36. Re:great book! by wickedskaman · · Score: 1

      ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU!

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    37. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To quote a notable writer on Twilight @ Dragon*Con a couple of years ago, "I can't write that bad".

    38. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glad to see somebody else appreciates this film for the sparkling gem of madness that it is!

      I've only found one review that does Zardoz justice.

    39. Re:great book! by Rational · · Score: 5, Funny

      How do you know if someone has read Schopenhauer? Don't worry, they'll tell you.

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    40. Re:great book! by santax · · Score: 1

      So true! I tell people all the time I have read Schopenhauer. I often leave out the part of not getting through the 150+ pages of pre-word though... That guy makes me want to go all Zen on motorcycles. Then again, Nietzsche is even worse. Fascist idiot that was.

    41. Re:great book! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2

      I find http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/">this to be a pretty good analysis of just how bad the writing is. My wife is a librarian at a middle school here in Virginia, and she makes a point to keep up with popular fiction for middle-schoolers. She said that while the writing is awful, some of it was actually really good, but most of it was just padding.

      We watched the first 3 movies together... well, at least sat in front of them while surfing on our laptops. I couldn't even get through the first one _with_ Rifftrax. The second and third were a little better; there was at least some decent action to break it up. But I just cannot understand being excited about a story where the main character's motivations are so illogical the only reasonable conclusion is that she's mentally ill... but the way it's portrayed I don't even think the author sees it that way. Plus Kristin Stewart is pretty, but she always looks like she's strong out on Quaaludes or something. She seems to only have two emotions: dull petulance and vacant infatuation. Sparkly boy is just pasty and creepy. At least Jacob had some redeeming qualities and doesn't look like someone who would sit around drinking absinthe and quoting Shelly purely for effect.

      Meh. If I'm going to watch girl stuff, I'll stick with Jane Austen adaptations. The "Pride and Prejudice" with Colin Perth is really good. Superb production, acting, and music. My wife watches it about once every couple months or so. I mean, yeah, I'd rather be watching something like "Burn Notice", but I can appreciate stuff based on "real" literature. "Twilight" will be nothing but a historical footnote in a few decades while people will still be making new adaptations of Austen.

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    42. Re:great book! by garaged · · Score: 2

      I have seen battle royale 1 and read 2.7 of the hunger games books, there are a lot of similarities, but I think hunger games is much more reallistic, in the sense of depicting a society the has actually happened before, and could happen again.

      Although I would guess that there are or have been recently a few lunatic groups doing stuff like battle royale too, so that would be pretty realistic too, but kind of different

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    43. Re:great book! by garaged · · Score: 1

      By following the same logic, spartacus series is another rippoff for this.

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    44. Re:great book! by mcneely.mike · · Score: 0

      It was an 'okay' book series, not one i'd probably read twice though.
      A 'great' book is 'A Canticle for Leibowitz', not hunger games.
      Not sure where hunger games is even sci-fi.........

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    45. Re:great book! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's nothing so sad and useless as an English Literature major. What did you really think you were going to do after four years? Tell people how great Schopenhauer is while you bag their groceries?

    46. Re:great book! by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Meh. If I'm going to watch girl stuff, I'll stick with Jane Austen adaptations. The "Pride and Prejudice" with Colin Perth is really good. Superb production, acting, and music. My wife watches it about once every couple months or so.

      Quote to her from it every once in a while. Especially the romantic parts. She'll love it, for some reason.

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    47. Re:great book! by hey! · · Score: 2

      Sometimes I think in our eagerness to pass judgments on books, we neglect to actually *read* them. At least not with real critical objectivity.

      When *Twilight* became a phenomenon I bought a copy and did my best to read it with enjoyment. While it was not *my* cup of tea, I think I saw why fans feel it's special. It's not just the obvious reasons; it's clear to me that Stephanie Meyers is actually quite a talented writer. What she's not is a *skillful* writer, at least at the time she wrote tha book. *Twilight*'s dialog meanders painfully and its characters are wish-fulfillment automatons who lack nuance and surprise; but *Twilight* also contains flashes of quite good writing that you'd miss if you were skimming it solely to find material to pillory it with. These flashes of talent are what earn the book its fans, despite its flaws.

      We all tend to overlook faults in books we love, but all books have them. So I don't feel the need to prove to people who love this book that they're contemptible for doing so. In fact I don't see the point.

      Frankly, the mania for correcting the mistakes of others, even when those "mistakes" have no conceivable bearing on us, strikes me as a kind of mental illness. Evidently it's a common form of insanity.

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    48. Re:great book! by Tragek · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have to respectfully disagree on 'A Canticle for Leibowitz'.

      'A Canticle for Leibowitz' is self-indulgent tripe.

      No vote on Hunger Games, haven't read.

      Just needed to balance your comment out.

    49. Re:great book! by Daetrin · · Score: 1

      Well first of all, it's not like the basic idea was original to Battle Royale either. Before that the same or similar concepts were explored by "The Most Dangerous Game," "Running Man," "Lord of the Flies," and i'm sure numerous other works that i'm not as familiar with. There is room for multiple stories about Deadly Games just like there is room for multiple stories about any other trope. (Or do you think Star Wars shouldn't have been made because it was just reiterating ideas that originated in things like Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and the Lensmen?)

      I've never read Battle Royale, and i've only seen parts of the movie, but from what i understand it was all about the arena. It starts with the kids going on a trip, getting gassed, and waking up in the games. From there on out it's all about them trying to kill each other. It theoretically takes place in an alternate timeline, but there's not really much detail given about that alternate timeline. Either you've got to watch a lot of kids trying to kill each other or there's not much point to it.

      There are numerous differences in the Hunger Games. First, we spend a lot of time in the outside world before the games start, allowing us to see what the world is like and giving the reader time to bond with the protagonists. First we're introduced to a post-apocalyptic world where most of humanity has been wiped out and the survivors are struggling to get by. Except more observant readers will notice that there isn't any obvious reason why everyone should be struggling. Whatever wiped out so much of the human race before doesn't seem to be a problem now, and the environment seems to be in perfectly good shape. It's only the oppression of the capital that's preventing a perfectly reasonable economy from being established in which everyone has enough to eat. Then after the "winners" who will participate in the games are chosen the view moves to the capital, where the reader is allowed to see the comfort and excess the people running the system live in. It also shows how while the districts as a whole have a complicated love/gate relationship with the games (because the districts that win the games get free food) the capital just views it as entertainment and a chance to gamble on the outcome.

      So even before the combat starts you're more interested in the world and the characters than you were with Battle Royale. Then once the games start there are again several differences. First the games are being televised to everyone in the capital and the districts. (The capital watches for the fun of it, for teh districts it's compulsory.) And people watching the game are allowed to donate money towards their favorite for the use of providing them with gifts, and a heavily escalating cost depending on the usefulness of the gift. So all the competitors know that they should be putting on a good show if they want to be rewarded. Conversely if things get too boring, instead of a silly "we'll just kill all of you if no one dies within 24 hours" the people running the game will start manipulating the environment, either to put the competitors into dangerous situations or to maneuver them into conflict with each other. So even though after the games start there's no direct communication with the outside world there is information traveling both ways, and it makes the games seem much "larger." Also even when the managers aren't influencing the environment of the games directly, each arena was specifically designed just for that competition with various traps and pitfalls, so it's more interesting than just being dumped in a jungle somewhere.

      So after hearing about Battle Royale and seeing bits of the movie i thought "i'm not that interested in just reading about/watching a bunch of kids try to kill each other." After hearing about the Hunger Games i was interested enough to try it, and after reading the first book i wanted to find out more about the world they lived in.

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    50. Re:great book! by The+Rizz · · Score: 1

      A 'great' book is 'A Canticle for Leibowitz', not hunger games.

      No comment on Hunger Games's quality (I've never read it), but I'm really not a fan of Canticle. I can see why some people like it (especially those looking for Christian Sci-Fi), but I found it to be fairly boring and largely pointless.

      Not sure where hunger games is even sci-fi.........

      This coming from someone who brings up Canticle?

      However, from summary/comments I've read about it in the last 10 minutes: Dsytopian future, high-tech environment control, use of technology to comment on present culture... sounds pretty much like Sci-Fi to me.

    51. Re:great book! by FrootLoops · · Score: 1

      Sometimes I think in our eagerness to pass judgments on books, we neglect to actually *read* them. At least not with real critical objectivity.

      Yes, and this generalizes. Political discourse is filled with people passing non-objective judgements with incomplete information, both on each other and on policy matters. Talking heads often fall into an "us vs. them" mentality which is partly fueled by this error. Very few people are all good or all bad, and very few smart people have no good points whatsoever.

      Frankly, the mania for correcting the mistakes of others, even when those "mistakes" have no conceivable bearing on us, strikes me as a kind of mental illness. Evidently it's a common form of insanity.

      Interesting. I can't help but feeling the pot is calling the kettle black here, though--you're at least in part trying to correct a mistake you see people make, even though those mistakes don't affect you personally in any real way. The main reason why I bother trying to correct someone (as I did in the GP) is in hopes of slowly increasing the quality of reasoning in the general population, which eventually may affect me. Being human, I also find it satisfying to "be right" when someone else is wrong, especially when others agree with that assessment, but that's mostly a convenient by-product. I correct people in the same way even one-on-one.

    52. Re:great book! by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Clearly someone does not understand the meaning of the word redundant.

    53. Re:great book! by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      There's nothing so sad and useless as an English Literature major. What did you really think you were going to do after four years? Tell people how great Schopenhauer is while you bag their groceries?

      A lot of English Literature majors go on to work in Finance and earn considerably more than most scientists, if that's how you want to measure success. This is ignoring the fact that studying literature is something all educated people should do for pleasure anyway.

      If you think a university education is just glorified job training, I really do feel sorry for you.

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    54. Re:great book! by jc79 · · Score: 1

      Meh. If I'm going to watch girl stuff, I'll stick with Jane Austen adaptations. The "Pride and Prejudice" with Colin Perth is really good. Superb production, acting, and music.

      Do you mean the 1990s BBC adaptation with Colin Firth? Mr Darcy coming out of the pond with his shirt all wet was a defining moment in the sexual development of many female Brits born in the late 70s/early 80s.

    55. Re:great book! by V+for+Vendetta · · Score: 1

      Kind of like The Running Man [...]

      Running Man gets mentioned a lot here, though my first thought was The Long Walk and then Running Man.

    56. Re:great book! by stasike · · Score: 1

      He is going to teach other English Literature majors.

    57. Re:great book! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      "Perth"?! I must have had Australia on my mind. Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

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    58. Re:great book! by NoseyNick · · Score: 1

      They're all a rip-off of the original https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minos ;-)

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    59. Re:great book! by hey! · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I can't help but feeling the pot is calling the kettle black here, though

      Well, I hold myself to the same standard, which isn't so much about advising others, or even correcting them, but spoiling their harmless pleasures.

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    60. Re:great book! by Stuarticus · · Score: 1

      A lot of English Literature majors go on to work in Finance

      I thought I recognised you, you're the clerk from the local bank, aren't you?

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  2. How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    What is going on here? Amazon is collecting data on what passages we highlight?
    What other data are they collecting?
    I am going to re-read their end user agreement again before I buy any more books from them.

    1. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      How else did you think they let you see passages that other people have highlighted?

    2. Re:How did they collect this data?! by NicknameAvailable · · Score: 1, Informative

      What is going on here? Amazon is collecting data on what passages we highlight? What other data are they collecting? I am going to re-read their end user agreement again before I buy any more books from them.

      It's stored on their cloud you dumb shit, of course their collecting it.

    3. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Home -> Settings -> Popular Highlights -> Turn Off

    4. Re:How did they collect this data?! by MBCook · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are you trolling?

      If you have a Kindle, it's dead obvious they do this.

      As soon as I started reading on my Kindle, I noticed underlines on things. Amazon shows you the most popular things to highlight in the books you read, and tells you that. It's one of the features of the Kindle (I turned it off, as I found it distracting).

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    5. Re:How did they collect this data?! by artor3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When you highlight a passage, you have the option to share it. When you're reading, you'll see highlights that other people shared as dotted line underlines, along with a number indicating how many people shared that bit. You can turn off the display of shared highlights in the menu. Anyone who owns a Kindle would know that, so I suspect you're lying when you insinuate that you're a Kindle owner. Most likely a shill/fanboi for some other company.

    6. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's good you can turn it off. Amongst people who choose not doing anything beyond reading, highlighting, xor taking notes, highlighting is the only warning sign I might not like their personality. It's like the lazy but ostentatious (and, physically, destructive) way of pretending you're reading intently, without the actual benefits of taking notes (which improve knowledge retention just by making them).

    7. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Speaking of dumb shit: it's `they're,' not `their'

    8. Re:How did they collect this data?! by thejynxed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Kindle Reader app does not make the ability to disable this visible or obvious.

      It's also not visible or obvious on all versions of the Kindle.

      I think you need to go take a better look at the software on the different Kindle models.

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    9. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Salgak1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uh, since you apparently found the Constitution to be TL:DR, allow me to point out something: the Constitution limits the actions of the Federal Government. Amazon may be near-omnipresent, but they're NOT the Feds. The operative document is your Kindle User Agreement, which, no doubt, you clicked through because it, too, was TL:DR. Lesson is, read the agreement, for that which the Large Print giveth, the Small Print usually taketh away....

    10. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you highlight a passage, you have the option to share it. When you're reading, you'll see highlights that other people shared as dotted line underlines, along with a number indicating how many people shared that bit. You can turn off the display of shared highlights in the menu. Anyone who owns a Kindle would know that, so I suspect you're lying when you insinuate that you're a Kindle owner. Most likely a shill/fanboi for some other company.

      Typical rude, offensive comment.
      I am using Kindle software on an iPad 2.
      The setting descriptions are very vague.
      I had popular highlights turned off but not annotations backup. I have sinced turned that off.
      Please, let's keep a civil discussion.

    11. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      This is why you hack the living shit out of a kindle 5min after taking it out of the box. The "kindle" sucks. A hacked kindle on the other hand, is a marvelous device and what Amazon should be selling in the first place.

    12. Re:How did they collect this data?! by sdnoob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Anyone who owns a Kindle would know that

      anyone? doubtful. most? also doubtful.

      amazon tracking and collecting this sort of data is not any different than tivo and cable companies doing the same with dvr's (and not any less spooky), what programs are recorded and watched, when they're watched, what parts get replayed, skipped-over or paused on. and like tivo, amazon defaults to opt-in instead of opt-out (which is not exactly convenient to do with tivo.. and near or completely impossible with cable company boxes). tivo took a lot of heat after that most unfortunate of superbowl half-time performances -- amazon should here as well.

    13. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Obvious trolling and / or retard. Kindle makes it pretty clear this is what is going on.

    14. Re:How did they collect this data?! by milkmage · · Score: 1

      don't your highlights get sync'd to all copies on your devices?

      some would consider that a feature.. and how else are they going to do that if they're not watching?

    15. Re:How did they collect this data?! by milkmage · · Score: 2

      spying? please.
      you VOLUNTARILY gave them your name and billing address when you ordered the damn thing.

    16. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and that it's optional. I don't see what the kerfuffle is about.

    17. Re:How did they collect this data?! by MBCook · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I'm not generally a highlighting person. It has it's place, and if I was reading some reference book it might be nice. But when I'm reading fiction I'm not interested in finding out what sentences 8500 other people think are poignant.

      Amazon did a good job with it. And having turned off other people's highlights, I can still put my own in (even though I don't).

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    18. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      Hmm, haven't noticed that on the books I have on my Kindle. Of course, I have books on Iraq, Afghanistan, and scholarly books like the sinking of the Biskmarck and the Wehrmacht on the Western Front. So, guess the books I read just arent all that popular.

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    19. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Speaking of dumb shit: it's `they're,' not `their'

      Really? "It's stored on they are cloud"...

      I'll let you decide who the dumb shit is here.

    20. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since you wrongly chose which one of the two occurrences of the word 'their' my comment applied to, you are truly a dumb shit.

    21. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who enforces breach of contract? Seems to me that would be the government? How can they enforce any clauses in a contract that violate the constitution? Their actions would be limited in that regard aren't they?

    22. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

      How does a private entity violate the constitution, which is a document that has to do with the government and not private entities?

      Do you think a no talking rule in the theatre equates to a violation of your First Amendment rights?

    23. Re:How did they collect this data?! by lexsird · · Score: 1

      Ha ha! Let me address my loving readers all at once here.

      I always say, "Say what you want on the Internet, if you are wrong, you will be corrected with great enthusiasm." I liken it to being married.

      Ok, here's my perspective. I got a Kindle. I just want it so I can read. My eyes aren't so well these days, and I can make the print big enough I don't need my reading glasses. Honestly though, for me it's still backwards. I spend most of my time on the computer and not reading a book. I haven't read fiction, (other than the news) for a long time, and most of what I am interested in, I can read off of web pages as I want it ala carte*.

      So, I have read ONE book on it. So far, it's the most expensive copy of Fear and Loathing in Vegas, that I an think of. I am sure I glossed over the "highlight" stuff, but only on my way to reading the damn book. I'm sure there is plenty of bells and whistles I have skipped over, and or don't know about. But I didn't marry the damn thing, and it's here for me, not the other way around. Right.....? (Holy Shit, I didn't marry it. Did I? FUCK!!! I need to read those TOS papers after all.)

      Part of my brain when I read this article was happy about the advances in tech that would help give authors feedback. But it wasn't louder than the part of my brain screaming WTF? Because that did a rabbit hole into data bases and just how much lovely data could be mined off my innocent looking Kindle, just laying there in it's cool black leather jacket, just whistling to it's self.

      I then switch channels to "Who's Looking At My Data" starring Facebook, and all the rumors of everyone from the FBI to the Israelis sniffing through it from company side. Which quickly cycles through the Conspiracy De Jour that is peculating in my brain. All the while, my fingers have ran off without brain editing some post of "WTF??". And by posting early on in the tread, so there is nobody else to tank the first idiot "WTF" for me, so I can sagely stroke my beard and toss in some smart ass remark.

      I set myself up for it.

      Then I write a TLDR explanation of it. Sweet Jesus, this means you will read it, and have wasted almost an equal amount of time. Damn, there isn't any winning is there? It's like the Kobayashi Maru of /..

      Don't shoot, I surrender!

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    24. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ridiculous. There is a no talking rule in courtrooms and that isn't a breach of the First Amendment, is it. Free speech is not absolute.

      Now tell me, who enforces breach of contract?

    25. Re:How did they collect this data?! by MadMaverick9 · · Score: 1

      and this is marked as "troll", because ... ???

      i asked myself the very same question when i first read this article.

      but then i also do not understand why people still keep buying devices, where "they" can remotely delete files (ebooks) on that same device, without your consent. this is exactly the same as "them" sending a burglar to your house and steal one book, because "they" think that book is not appropriate for you.

      you wouldn't be happy with that now, would you?

      google for "amazon erases orwell books from kindle".

    26. Re:How did they collect this data?! by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Be honest--you didn't read the user agreement in the first place. Not that I don't sympathize.

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    27. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why bother reading the agreement? every time you buy anything like this you're getting fucked. you know it and i know it. just click accept and get on with your life.

    28. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've decided. It's you.

    29. Re:How did they collect this data?! by GodGell · · Score: 1

      Wow.

      Just wow.

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    30. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I am going to re-read they are end user agreement..." Wow, just wow, indeed.

    31. Re:How did they collect this data?! by houghi · · Score: 1

      for that which the Large Print giveth, the Small Print usually taketh

      What it should be is that the small print should be the law that protects the people and the large print the agreement/contract.
      That way no matter what you write in the contract, the law will be able to take away.
      In some cases this is true. Making a contract to kill your SO does not make it ok, as the small print (the law) will taketh away.
      The problem is that the law does not protect the people. It protects those who made/bought the law.

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    32. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...xor taking notes...

      What about people who nand take notes?

    33. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are either a magnificent troll, or a true dumbfuck.

    34. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Newsflash: Your rights aren't given to you by the Constitution.
      Amendment IX: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. "

    35. Re:How did they collect this data?! by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

      You didn't even respond to anything I said.

  3. Required reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a recent publication that is required reading in a lot of schools. Of course a lot of it is highlighted, those are the answers to the tests.

  4. Hmm. What a co-incki-dinck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gee, how shocking. A book which is getting a lot of advertising push in the run-up to a movie release just happens to be getting highlighted in an Amazon bookstore function designed to let you see what's popular. Gosh, I guess it must just be practically scientifically, objectively the most read book right now. You should probably buy it and check it out!

  5. Which #18? by Ambvai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Which #18 is the summary referring to?

    "Press and hold, then drag your finger across text to select it. A dialog box will appear that lets you highlight the text, add a note, and so on. If several other Kindle users have highlighted a particular passage in the book you are reading, you will see that passage underlined. You can turn off these Popular Highlights in Settings. Notes appear as superscripted numbers within the text. To view a note the next time you visit that page, simply tap on the number."

    or

    "“Panem et Circenses translates into ‘Bread and Circuses.’ The writer was saying that in return for full bellies and entertainment, his people had given up their political responsibilities and therefore their power.”"?

    They're both oddly appropriate for self-help...

    1. Re:Which #18? by Soulskill · · Score: 2

      The former, definitely.

    2. Re:Which #18? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      And neither one is good writing.

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    3. Re:Which #18? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I rather preferred this one, as I see it in the workplace everyday:

      "People who know what they’re talking about don’t need PowerPoint."

    4. Re:Which #18? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Which is clearly just full of shit, because in the workplace most powerpoint documents are a handy accessible form of information transfer intended to standalone with no need for presentation.

      You may indeed present the material, but you do so briefly and covering shit that's not on the powerpoint so that people get context and greater understanding. Then let them take the doc away with them for future reference and further information.

      It's an information rich world out there, most people don't have perfect recall and most people will read through a 12 page powerpoint rather than try and read the 40 page written document it's summarising.

      But hey, even TED talks often use powerpoint, and some of those speakers are truly fantastic.

  6. +/-1 Snarky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Agree with the sentiment. Disagree with the tone.

  7. What Else Could be Found? by Walt+Sellers · · Score: 1

    Its nice for an author to be recognized.

    It would also be nice to see success for eBooks that can't succeed as paper.

    1. Re:What Else Could be Found? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Informative

      Interestingly, the Hunger Games series is one of the few on Amazon that is significantly cheaper on the Kindle (and apps) then the paper version. And for some bizarre reason, they're the only Kindle books that I've seen that aren't plastered with typos.

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    2. Re:What Else Could be Found? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the typo issue:

      Low-paid interns and temporary workers employed solely to rapidly copy the text from the dead-tree version into .pdf files, etc. English as your primary language, optional.

    3. Re:What Else Could be Found? by __aancvu2993 · · Score: 1

      And here I was thinking my collection of pirated books had typos because of sloppy idiots not loving them enough but someday... someday I'd find a torrent with Kindle or B&N editions, perfectly formatted and proofread like the paper ones I've had the audacity to become used to.

      Then you shatter my bubble and Google quickly confirms that editions people pay money for have more than a fair share of errors, formatting extravaganzas and strange ASCII combinations whenever an accent or, say, finnish letter were.

      At least I was right in what I do: if the author is alive I buy a real book, have it cut, scan it at 300 dpi, 1 bit depth, every page is about 2-3 KB and perfect. If the author is dead, I do the same but torrent it afterwards. I am astonished that people would pay for mistakes. Why do they do it?

    4. Re:What Else Could be Found? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      It used to be that when you bought a hardcover, you had a reasonable expectation of it having been proofread. Not so, anymore, apparently. My guess is that proofreading these days isn't done on paper, where it was easy to insert corrections and get the author's feedback, but are now done in electronic format as a one-step-job, and a lot slips through the cracks.

      Point in case: C. J. Cherry's latest Foreigner novel, "Intruder", which has a fair problem with uncorrected typos and transpositions.

  8. Re:Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not relevant to the topic at hand, but I notice my submission is listed as being authored (yes, Slashdot news crew, I wrote the content myself - you should try it, it's liberating) by "Anonymous Coward."

    I'm part British, so I do see the humour in it (along with the humour in pulling someone's pants down in public, placing a live mouse in a freshly-prepared meat pie, kicking someone who has just fallen into the horse trough, and other displays of hilarity taken straight out of the 15th century. However... I wish to point out that at no time during the process of submitting my previous comment was I invited to create an account on your site. So which of us does that show as being cowardly?

    Regardless, thank you for the site. I occasionally find mentions of articles here that I find worthy of reading. And, after I click on the link to go to the page on the site where the article actually is, I often do read the article. And leave comments where both the author(s) and the people the article is directed to are likely to have a chance of seeing them.

    Have a nice day.

  9. Nice passages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Astro-turf. Pop culture feel good quotes, coming to a theater near you, and and mindless platitudes. The Harry Potter star-maker machinery is at work again, I see.

    'bloomers' for the win. Ben Franklin would have loved that, the ol' whore monger.

  10. Depressing by macraig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seeing what statistically significant humans think is highlight-worthy is incredibly depressing. Is it any wonder the One Percent can manage to stay in control? Humans have opposable thumbs and can manage language, but wise they aren't. They can't discern platitudes and doublespeak from actual wisdom.

    1. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thanks for posting that and saving me the trouble. When I saw the link to the 100 most highlighted passages, I thought great--a few new gems for my personal collection. Wow, was I wrong. Almost none of the passages were insightful or even interesting. For some real insightful and interesting quotes & passages, check out Robert Heinlein's "Notebooks of Lazarus Long". (FWIW, IMHO, YMMV and other standard disclaimers apply)

    2. Re:Depressing by tomhath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know what else is depressing? There will always be a Top One Percent. No matter what. There will always One Percent that has more than the other Ninety Nine Percent. Deal with it.

    3. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.

      And to the parent: even in former/current socialist/Marxist/fascist/etc "utopias," is not the 'ruling elite' in China; Cuba; the former USSR; N. Korea; etc. the Top One Percent?

    4. Re:Depressing by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 2

      You know what else is depressing? There will always be a Top One Percent.

      Yeah. And half of you are below average. THAT'S depressing!

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    5. Re:Depressing by martin-boundary · · Score: 2

      That's not depressing at all. There are 100 different 1 percents. Let's make sure that each of them gets to be the 1 percent that matters, over the course of human history.

    6. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean half are below the median (and that's a tautology). The average can be higher than 99% of the population. For example, take 99 ordinary people and 1 Bill Gates. His fortune alone makes everyone else's below average.

    7. Re:Depressing by MBCook · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wait, you mean the most highlighted things come from the books the most people have? Say it isn't so!

      Hunger Games isn't a bad series. Would you prefer the top highlights be from Twilight? Or some terrible self help book by the latest fad guru? Or the newest diet sensation?

      Don't forget that not only have the Hunger Games book sold incredibly well, they were one of the promoted books for the "one free book a month for Prime subscribers" program.

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    8. Re:Depressing by digitig · · Score: 2

      Seeing what statistically significant humans think is highlight-worthy is incredibly depressing.

      But it's at least least warned me not to bother reading The Hunger Games -- the quotes all seem trite and badly written to me, so it seems that the books are not for me.

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    9. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Let's not. Most of you haven't done a thing to earn it. Despite current popular thinking, "being born" doesn't cut it.

    10. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the only reason to highlight is to get words of wisdom...not to make it easy to track with the plot/story or anything...

    11. Re:Depressing by voidphoenix · · Score: 1

      The mean can be higher than 99% of the population. For example, take 99 ordinary people and 1 Bill Gates. His fortune alone makes everyone else's below the mean.

      FTFY. Both mean and median are averages. Mode as well.

    12. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, 'cause only the One Percenters deserve to be born rich!

    13. Re:Depressing by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Yeah. And half of you are below average. THAT'S depressing!

      When you know what the average is, yes. It's not exactly below average genius, if you get my drift...

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    14. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a fan of Heinlein , what I find depressing is that its 2012 and Rick Santorum is a possible nominee for prewsident. See the similarites to Nehemiah Scudder?

    15. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      If that's the primary reason that people are doing this, then I might retract my rant... or at least the motivation for it. Humans are still stupid by and large. ;-)

    16. Re:Depressing by wanzeo · · Score: 2

      They can't discern platitudes and doublespeak from actual wisdom.

      How do you think the bible got so popular? Now excuse me while I duck.

    17. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      At least you said it before I did. I get to keep eating for once.

    18. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you actually looked at these highlights? People are obviously marking them because they think they're particularly good or meaningful quotes (they aren't). They have very little to do with following the plot.

    19. Re:Depressing by KaimaraZatar · · Score: 1

      Seeing what statistically significant humans think is highlight-worthy is incredibly depressing.

      Yes, it is depressing to see what a "statistically significant quantity" of humans think. However, I don't believe this has taught us anything about what "statistically significant humans" think.

    20. Re:Depressing by dougmc · · Score: 2

      Yeah. And half of you are below average. THAT'S depressing!

      Yes, but ...

      "Approximately 99% of people have more than the average number of legs".

    21. Re:Depressing by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      {1, 2, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7}

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    22. Re:Depressing by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "There will always One Percent that has more than the other Ninety Nine Percent. Deal with it."

      Yep,but sometimes the 99% take the guillotine out of the shack.

    23. Re:Depressing by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      With the exception of a couple wealthy families (Walton and Mars come to mind), most people in the US who are millionaires were not born into their wealth.

    24. Re:Depressing by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, the Kindle hasn't been around long enough to be a real sample. Do you really think "The Hunger Games" is going to stay the most popular series of all time? No, in a few years it will be a memory, replaced by whatever comes next, and the quotes that ARE timeless will stick around, and move more and more to the top.

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    25. Re:Depressing by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      The story is decent, but I'm not a fan of first person narratives. It's a rare writer who can pull it off without it detracting from the novel, and Collins isn't such a writer.

    26. Re:Depressing by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Of-course they do, and when the 1% is departed with their wealth and their heads, the next ones in line are those, who were just below them.

      Eventually you can be that 1%, it's not like it takes too much to be in that category given enough murder. It happened many times, and just a little while ago the 1% were people with metal roofs above their heads (not that it helped them to escape the 99% with the guillotines).

    27. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pretty good and it takes a surprisingly dark tone for its target age group. Taking anything out of context can make it seem trite. The strength of the story is in the portrayal of the characters, the mood, and the action.

      While it's no Harry Potter, it's no vapid Twilight by a long shot either.

    28. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      No matter, there's still plenty of corroborating evidence that people are stupid. ;-)

    29. Re:Depressing by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Seeing what statistically significant humans think is highlight-worthy is incredibly depressing

      Sample bias.

      The only thing we know for sure is that child-murder-curious readers tend to highlight things on Kindles.

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    30. Re:Depressing by badbart · · Score: 1

      I'm glad I'm not alone in hearing "The Sound of His Wings" in Santorum's campaign speeches. If Santorum gets nominated, or God forbid wins, I will consider it proof positive that Heinlein was in fact a time traveler.

    31. Re:Depressing by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Be happy, it's only because of that you can easily become rich!

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    32. Re:Depressing by ryanov · · Score: 3, Informative

      69% earned it according to a study. 6% completely inherited it, and the remainder was a mixture. That's not exactly "only a couple of wealthy families."
      http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/most-affluent-americans-earn-their-wealth-feel-more-secure-during-economic-downturns-pnc-survey-reveals-57351597.html

    33. Re:Depressing by koxkoxkox · · Score: 2
    34. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      I'm even more stupid, because I never really wanted to be rich. Apparently it's the one psychiatric disorder they can't treat.

    35. Re:Depressing by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      Seeing what statistically significant humans think is highlight-worthy is incredibly depressing

      The cure is to read what led to those passages. But then you will become depressed for a different reason.

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    36. Re:Depressing by drdrgivemethenews · · Score: 1

      Researchers are finally nailing down what you already know intuitively: people are good at perceiving when others are dumber than they are, but terrible at perceiving when others are better/smarter. Extrapolating from that, I'd posit that most people (present company excluded of course) are also terrible at selecting quotations that are much above their level. If that's true, a list of quotes selected by the masses in the manner of Kindle will likely have little to recommend it on a pure "quality of quotation" basis.

      See http://news.yahoo.com/people-arent-smart-enough-democracy-flourish-scientists-185601411.html for a bad summary with an even worse title.

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    37. Re:Depressing by hywel_ap_ieuan · · Score: 1

      Very misleading statistics. Those percentages are based on the number of people with $500k in investable assets. That excludes primary residence, but according to most definitions I could find does not leave out retirement accounts(US IRAs, 401Ks, etc.). The figures you provide are a measure of the top ~15%.

    38. Re:Depressing by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      Speaking of double-think, #25 is a doozy of double-think considering which book it comes from.

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    39. Re:Depressing by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      And if the top 1% holds 2% of the wealth, which means they hold double their proportional share, I will be satisfied.
      But when the top 1% hold 40% of the wealth (and thus the power), we have a problem.

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      - For the complete works of Shakespeare: cat /dev/random (may take some time)
    40. Re:Depressing by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

      It isn't that there is a Top One Percent that most people get pissed about. If they were just wealthier than everyone else, most people would be okay with that. It's the manner in which they appear to have rigged the system to their benefit, and our detriment, that has everyone all pissed. "The system" is no longer working for a growing number of people, so a growing number of people are getting pissed at "The system" and those that it benefits.

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      ...sometimes, in order to hurt someone very badly, you have to tell that person terrible lies. - PA
    41. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50% of the population is below 100 IQ. Forrest Gump was suppose to be 75. Why do you think religion is so strong among the simple people?

    42. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except you're wrong. (Arithmetic) Mean == Average, Median != Mean.

    43. Re:Depressing by digitig · · Score: 1

      First person doesn't bother me, but present tense does. Novice writers often use it because they think (wrongly, IMHO) that it makes the narrative more "immediate". All it really does as far as I can see is make control of the pace very difficult, and the writers who use present tense tend to be precisely the writers who can't handle that.

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      Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
    44. Re:Depressing by timeOday · · Score: 2

      No matter what. There will always One Percent that has more than the other Ninety Nine Percent. Deal with it.

      You are simply wrong. There are vast differences among societies in how unequal they are, and it's ever-evolving, even within any-given nation. Wealth distribution is not physical law, it's political will. It can and does change, constantly.

    45. Re:Depressing by Nethead · · Score: 1

      Is there still time to sign-up for the Orphans in the Sky ship? I think now might be a good time to leave the planet.

      --
      -- I have a private email server in my basement.
    46. Re:Depressing by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      What? Think of all the good you could do with it. You could spend all your time working on interesting open source projects, instead of fixing the bugs of your braindead coworkers.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    47. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      Or Kickstarting the next episode of L5 single-handedly.

    48. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      Good Lord, didn't see that one. The eugenicists had the right idea, they just rounded up and culled the wrong people, eh?

    49. Re:Depressing by macraig · · Score: 1

      Dirty Harry said it best: "A man's gotta know his limitations." People are taking Harry's advice, are they?

    50. Re:Depressing by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yes, exactly!

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    51. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coming soon, the Hunger Games diet cookbook! with photos of cats! for christmas!

    52. Re:Depressing by kiwi_jackal · · Score: 1

      Really? 15% of the population have over half a million dollars in assets that don't include their primary residence?

    53. Re:Depressing by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 1

      Seems reasonable, and possibly lower than I would have guessed. The average age of the US population is a bit older now with the aging baby boomers. If they have been saving for retirement since they started working, $500k isn't very much money for them to have put away.

    54. Re:Depressing by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      I knew there was something else that bothered me about it, but it's been a while since I read it. Yes, present tense narratives are irritating for the most part.

    55. Re:Depressing by voidphoenix · · Score: 1

      Except I'm not, and you are. Average. If you read the post I was replying to (and corrected), you might have understood what I was saying. Of course, given your post:

      (Arithmetic) Mean == Average, Median != Mean.

      maybe you won't.

      TL;DR; There are 3 kinds of "average": (arithmetic) mean, median and mode. Most people say "average" but actually mean "(arithmetic) mean".

    56. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment manages to be both cynical and naive. The popularity of this self help / feel good thing tells us a lot about the human race. And when we (that is, the average slashdotter and/or the average kindle owner) talk about the human race, what we mean is the middle class westerner. It doesn't necessarily tell us that people are idiots. What it tells us about the middle class westerner is that we're lost in a morass of want of irrelevant extrinsic satisfaction that we believe we desire and yet can never achieve. Everyone's looking for an easy answer; nobody's willing to work for it.

    57. Re:Depressing by V+for+Vendetta · · Score: 1

      Why do you think religion is so strong among the simple people?

      Not simple (minded). Uneducated. The higher a society's education, the lesser religious it is. And we're not talking about "rocket science" here as education. Some basic reading & writing & math & science does the job. Topics even "simple minded" (=below average IQ) people can grok.

    58. Re:Depressing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's worth a read. Quite compelling. Got "film" written all over it. It's a nice take on the "children fight for survival in world gone mad" thing. On a scale of "The Silver Sword" (classic) to "The Stainless Steel Rat" (fun), it's definitely at the Jimmy DiGriz end...

  11. obligatory snark by mako1138 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From my own highlight list:

    How much of old material goes to make up the freshest novelty of human life.
      --Nathaniel Hawthorne, House of the Seven Gables (1851)

    1. Re:obligatory snark by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      I highlight typos.

  12. And everything new is good forgotten old by siddesu · · Score: 2

    One can find the origin of these rather shallow "deep thoughts" in much older literature. The requirement is just a little knowledge. E.g. the first on the "recent list" is a seriously dumbed-down Faust:

    When I say to the Moment flying;
    'Linger a while -- thou art so fair!'

    And so on.

    1. Re:And everything new is good forgotten old by Ambvai · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bah. That's clearly just repackaged from:

      "Hello, my friend! Stay awhile and listen..."

    2. Re:And everything new is good forgotten old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for the nostalgic flashback. I think I'm going to fire up the game just to here that again.

    3. Re:And everything new is good forgotten old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Another visitor. Stay awhile, stay forever!"

  13. history repeating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When it was Battle Royale it was garbage, but some white lady "writes it",and its a literary masterpiece.], with a multi-million dollar movie & advertising campaign.

    wtf?

    1. Re:history repeating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The only thing good about Hunger Games is some kid curious enough is gonna find Battle Royale and join the Dark Side. We have cute Japanese girls. (Fuck cookies. Oh my.)

  14. What?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazon knows what I highlight in my eBooks?! Scary......

    1. Re:What?! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I use a highlighter. Amazon can't track that, but I go through Kindles like socks.

      --
      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    2. Re:What?! by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      When you see passages underlined with a little note that says "19 people highlighted this," what did you think? People sent Amazon a postcard to let them know?

  15. Why highlight anyway? by bulletman · · Score: 1

    I highlight to come back to a passage. I don't choose the most poignant prose to highlight, but the most descriptive for where I am in the book. It seems like a lot of the highlighting that is going on is just piling on -- people highlight passages because other people do.

    1. Re:Why highlight anyway? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      If you look at the #1 entry, with about 50% more highlihgts than the following entries, and bother to read what was highlighted, it's pretty clear that this is highlighted because people somehow were convinced by others to highlight it. It isn't something that stands out at all, with no profound wisdom, and nothing that defines the story.
      As for the top 25, any random entry from the old Unix "fortune" program will be more profound. Let me try:

      "There is nothing new under the sun, but there are lots of old things we don't know yet."
        -Ambrose Bierce

      Ayup.

    2. Re:Why highlight anyway? by bulletman · · Score: 1

      I guess the only way to get around this is to highlight without other's highlights being turned on.

  16. Oxford American Dictionary #124 by kscheetz · · Score: 2

    The highlighted text:
    The New Oxford American Dictionary Contents About this book

    Truly inspiring

  17. The sample size seems way too small by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else find this list to be a bit sparse. There's only a handful of books represented, which makes me wonder how many people are actually using this feature. Most people aren't even familiar with "The Picture of Dorian Gray," yet it has a half dozen quotes selected from it.

  18. Robert Scheckley by js_sebastian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Crap. I wasn't logged in. My comment. Great book for those interested. Kind of like The Running Man, but in many ways, much crueler.

    And a complete rip-off of Battle Royale. Skip it and just watch that instead.

    And all of the above got the idea from Robert Scheckley's 1958 short story "The Prize of Peril", which is not only the first depiction of this type of game, but also of any form of reality television in fiction, decades before it materialized in the real world. I have not read the hunger games, but I wonder how much all of these add to the original concept...

    1. Re:Robert Scheckley by kcitren · · Score: 2

      The reality TV aspect of the the Hunger Games doesn't really appear to be that hugely important, at least in what I've read so far [book 1 and half of book 2]. While the games may be looked at as entertainment for some, it's stated early on that the main reason for the games is as a form of punishment for a rebellion years before. It's a form of social control, a pure display of power by the capital. The game makers want the games to be entertaining, 1) because the capital likes entertaining games and 2) because the districts are forced to watch their children get slaughtered and it's more torturous this way. There's a major theme about keeping up appearances for the audience and playing a somewhat assigned role, but that's not just a reality TV mechanic, that's just life.

  19. Am I the only one then...? by Lord+of+the+Fries · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That read the first book and thought "Really?? This is what all the excitement is about?" I didn't care for Hunger Games at all. It was an engaging read admittedly. I kept turning the pages. But the foreshadowing of where things were headed seemed pretty shallow to me (no, I did not cheat and peek at the ending). My closing thoughts were "well, someone's hoping to cash in on a screenplay here" and a sort of dirty feeling. I felt like one feels when you slow down at the sight of a roadside accident to see if there's anything gory.

    I read the next two books just to see if it would get any good.

    I have this vague sense of irony about the whole thing. As I listen to people tell me why they just like this book so much, some times I feel like a big part of the reason they liked it was because everyone else seems to as well. It's cool, because if you're read it, you're in the club. And the club says it's good. Given that a major theme of the book is humanity's ability as a collective to ignore stuff that is wrong, this seems hugely ironic to me.

    If you enjoyed it, no offense meant. I respect that. To each his own. I liked the Mistborn series and Terry Pratchett novels far better than this among recent reads, and maybe you don't care for those.

    Am I the only person that didn't care for Hunger Games at all?

    --
    One man's pink plane is another man's blue plane.
    1. Re:Am I the only one then...? by Boronx · · Score: 1

      "I read the next two books just to see if it would get any good."

      Bless you. This is the slashdot I know and love.

    2. Re:Am I the only one then...? by arkhan_jg · · Score: 1

      I've just finished reading the series myself (on a kobo, natch). I liked them. They're not going to win any awards for great literature, but they're significantly better written than Harry Potter or the first couple of chapters of the first twilight book (I couldn't stomach any more than that). I wouldn't even classify them as young adult; they're pretty violently brutal with quite a few analogies to our current day politics. It's only that the protagonists are teenagers that makes it 'young adult' really.

      OK, I found the story interesting. the characters fairly well written and it was a page-turner; you do want to see what happens next, even if you can see it coming. It's hardly Asimov or Neal Asher or Iain M Banks or George R.R. Martin - but then sometimes it's nice to read a book that's more about the people in it than the hugely complicated and imaginative world that they're living in, and is more about entertainment than being weighty literature.

      Oddly enough, I'd rate them about the same as one of Pratchett's latest, say Snuff in terms of fun to read. Though I love him and his work dearly, and feel deeply sad about his illness, it's clearly affecting his books.

      People do read all sorts of crap and enjoy it though; Twilight, for example, or some of those dreadful self help books, or Andy McNab's fiction. It takes all sorts, and I'd rate Hunger Games considerably higher than that kind of dross - so if that's all they're comparing it to, you can see where they're coming from. While any reading is better than no reading, I'd rather people read something that isn't total crap, and there's nothing wrong with populist material in and of itself.

      I admit, I read the series because of all the fuss (and I needed some new books for my new kobo touch!) but I don't regret the time reading them, which is all that really matters for me. I read enough 'great literature' to allow myself some lighter reads in between the weightier stuff.

      --
      Remember kids, it's all fun and games until someone commits wholesale galactic genocide.
    3. Re:Am I the only one then...? by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 1

      I must admit I haven't read Hunger Games, but what you're saying reminds me very strongly of my experience reading The DaVinci Code. That was in my opinion a truly dreadful book, but back in 2004 it was the "must read" book of the year.

      You're right - people like these things because they're "cool", and if you've read the book then "you're in the club". Marketing plays a big part, hyping up a book to generate sales, getting book clubs to push it. It's nothing more than fashion.

      In the case of Brown's crud, I think the reason why it was marketable, and why it became popular is that the plot is quite intriguing. (The writing is disastrously bad, and Brown's "style" of cutting action at completely arbitrary points to swap to a different plot-line just for the sake of generating artificial suspense I found incredibly irritating.) Had the plot been dull, then it wouldn't have stood a chance.

      A big part of the success of such books is that most of the people that read them only read fashionable books. They've not read anything that's genuinely good, so they can't tell how bad they are. Since they don't know any better and have enjoyed the plot, they'll rave about the book, which perpetuates the myth that it's a "good" book. It's highly unlikely that they will expand their reading to any decent authors; at best they will read other books by the same author, keeping them away from genuinely good reading material.

    4. Re:Am I the only one then...? by tinkerton · · Score: 2

      ut they're significantly better written than Harry Potter

      I've read all the Harry Potters and I think from the third book on they're quite well written. The reasons people will say otherwise, in order of appearance, would be
      1. empty posturing
      2. they've only read the first book
      3. more sincere posturing - based on attitudes of what serious literature should be and disdain of the rest

    5. Re:Am I the only one then...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely young adult. Simplistic sentence structure, short sentences, sentence fragments, first person by a young adult persona. Fairly straightforward plot (compare to Michael Crichton's mid-career work or Dan Simmons' Hyperion books for examples of tight and complex plots) and simplistic descriptive technique (compare to anything by Patricia McKillip). Robin McKinley's Chalice was put in the young adult section, but was infinitely better written than these. These books read like the kind of thing you get linked to a comic book or kids tv series or major motion picture (compare Jurassic Park the novel, inspiration of the movie, to its post-blockbuster sequel), like I Am Number Four, that hadn't been on bookshelves for more than a few months before the movie was in theatres.

  20. The Lottery contains no lotto winning tips. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a rather chilling tale of conformity gone mad!

  21. +2 snarky, -1 unsubstantiated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agree with the sentiment and tone of GP, disagree with parent.

  22. Yeah. Hunger Games. by Zadaz · · Score: 2

    If there was any doubt that The Hunger Games are young adult novels, just read through the list.

    I'd weep for the youth of today but I was a youth of yesterday and I was a giant idiot too. I mostly grew out of it. They will too. It's how it works.

  23. Huh, that explains a lot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wondered, while reading the series, why there were so many damned highlights in it.

  24. Guilty pleasure by rve · · Score: 1

    Seeing what statistically significant humans think is highlight-worthy is incredibly depressing. Is it any wonder the One Percent can manage to stay in control? Humans have opposable thumbs and can manage language, but wise they aren't. They can't discern platitudes and doublespeak from actual wisdom.

    I like to highlight completely inane random passages taken out of context on my kindle

  25. Lame by dargaud · · Score: 1

    I expected some kind of great quips, something similar to all the great Heinlein quotes that come out of his books. Although I don't like his writing style, dialogues and ideas particularly, his quotes are great. But those ?!? it can't get any lamer than this I guess: "I just want to spend every possible minute of the rest of my life with you". Or this "I wish I could freeze this moment, right here, right now, and live in it forever". "At some point, you have to stop running and turn around and face whoever wants you dead". Come on !

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    Non-Linux Penguins ?
  26. The top one makes a lot of sense, actually. by glwtta · · Score: 1

    I really wouldn't expect the things that happen to be equipped to deal with people.

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    sic transit gloria mundi
  27. Re:Hmm. What a co-incki-dinck! by glwtta · · Score: 2

    Not really sure that you need to resort to conspiracy theories - the book is crazy popular right now; and yes, partly because of the massive advertising push for the movie (then again, it's getting a movie because it's crazy popular).

    If they did this 3 years ago, it'd be full of Twilight nonsense.

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    sic transit gloria mundi
  28. if conspiracy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you view this as true, wouldn't you want to meet and talk to the fucking genius brilliant marketer who thought up this strategy and then implemented it?

  29. Thank you, Slashdot. by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article came at a fitting time as I had recently picked up the bad habit of writing. It's a peculiar problem I have; it sneaks up from time to time, usually as the result of a new gadget which had the misfortune of including a keyboard. The impulse afflicts me for a few days or weeks until I finally convince myself, in no uncertain terms, that I am really a irredeemably terrible writer and should, in a just universe, have long ago been issued a restraining order against the whole of the English language. As this is, alas, an entirely unjust universe, over the years I have left a terrifying path of half-finished video game plots, reimagined TV shows and fan-fics in my wake.

    But I digress. When I stumbled upon this article I thought that it would be my rescue, as my recent purchase of a Bluetooth keyboard for my smartphone had me again fancying myself an auteur while the tiny rational part of by brain helplessly fought the controls. While I had never read any of Suzanne Collins work, surely anyone capable of penning a third of Amazon's top quotes must have a rapier wit and a stunning insight into the human condition. It would be a delightful chance to reaffirm my own incompetence and move on with my life. And I'd even get a new collection of bon mots to use at the water cooler. What could possibly go wrong?

    Oops, I'm starting to digress again and souls don't crush themselves, after all! Bring on the quotes!

    Because sometimes things happen to people and they’re not equipped to deal with them.

    Ah, well, that's...very true. Very applicable to lots of...things.

    It takes ten times as long to put yourself back together as it does to fall apart.

    That's true, too! I've heard the same message plenty of times before, but that doesn't make it less insightful.

    “I wish I could freeze this moment, right here, right now, and live in it forever,” he says.

    Okay, maybe a bit trite, but still a nice sentiment.

    “I just want to spend every possible minute of the rest of my life with you,” Peeta replies.

    Ah...um, okay, now my secret My Little Pony fan-fic is starting to look good. Uh...moving on...

    We’re fickle, stupid beings with poor memories and a great gift for self-destruction.

    ...Dear...

    “Having an eye for beauty isn’t the same thing as a weakness,” Peeta points out. “Except possibly when it comes to you.”

    ...God...

    Life in District 12 isn’t really so different from life in the arena. At some point, you have to stop running and turn around and face whoever wants you dead.

    ...this...

    The berries. I realize the answer to who I am lies in that handful of poisonous fruit. If I held them out to save Peeta because I knew I would be shunned if I came back without him, then I am despicable. If I held them out because I loved him, I am still self-centered, although forgivable. But if I held them out to defy the Capitol, I am someone of worth. The trouble is, I don’t know exactly what was going on inside me at that moment.

    ...is...

    I am not pretty. I am not beautiful. I am as radiant as the sun.

    ...all...

    “District Twelve. Where you can starve to death in safety,”

    ...complete...

    That what I need to survive is not Gale’s fire, kindled with rage and hatred. I have plenty of fire myself. What I need is the dandelion in the spring. The bright yellow that means rebirth instead of destruction. The promise that life can

    --
    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    1. Re:Thank you, Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your fanfic mailing list.

    2. Re:Thank you, Slashdot. by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, this post was so terribly written that I stopped reading after the first paragraph.....

    3. Re:Thank you, Slashdot. by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      Bless you! Oh, bless you, Peter! Your small kindness helps draw this poison from my veins. Ah, if only all Slashdot would join together, clap their hands, and say quick that they do not believe in me!

      --
      How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
  30. Last June Suzanne Collins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that some kind of native american name?

  31. Missing the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While the discussion is revolving round the books themselves, it's of more interest to ask 'why these books'.
    Might I suggest that the greater percentage of e-reader users are technophiles to some extent, thus probably biased to Science Fiction.
    What are all the technophobes using for reading devices. Surely not the, soon to be extinct (we're told) books.....

  32. Privacy? by LS · · Score: 1

    How many of these people knew that their highlighting history was being uploaded to Amazon? creepy if you ask me.

    LS

    --
    There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
  33. But Is It The SAME One Percent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course there will always be a top 1%. The question is whether that 1% is achievable by the other 99% through hard work and education. At this time, it isn't. You can't end up with $20M in your IRA like Mitt Romney through hard work and education - you only get it by positioning, connection, loopholes in the tax code, and pushing "structured bankruptcies".

  34. That's only because... by MYakus · · Score: 1

    ..."The Notebooks of Lazarus Long" isn't in the Kindel store.

    “Being intelligent is not a felony, but most societies evaluate it as at least a misdemeanor.” - L. Long

  35. Required reading? by moodel · · Score: 1

    LOL I bet if it wasn't required reading it would have been Philip K Dick.

  36. Why was this post modded to troll? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    If google did something like this, there would be dozens of posters here going absolutely ballistic.

  37. She has gamed the system by cjonslashdot · · Score: 1

    Collins has obviously gamed the system in some way. I have looked through the "highlighted" passages, and they are not so memorable that they would be highlighted as often as claimed. I don't know how she did it (software maybe?), but her books have more highlights than longstanding works that have much more thought-provoking and memorable content. It is somehow a scam.

    1. Re:She has gamed the system by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
      Surely the pieces that an individual would choose to highlight (aside: highlight? why? not being an ebook person I don't understand this behaviour. I've never felt the need to highlight any passages in any of my proper books) would depend on the level of understanding one has of the passage. A section that one individual considers a revelation may be thought of as blindingly obvious, or boringly mundane, but others.

      Maybe this behaviour tells us about the intellectual profile of the books' readers - or maybe just that some educational establishment somewhere had them on a reading list and the Cliff's Notes equivalent noted those paragraphs for the lemmings to follow?

      --
      politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
    2. Re:She has gamed the system by cjonslashdot · · Score: 1

      Very insightful. I suspect that your reading list theory is the explanation.

    3. Re:She has gamed the system by The_Steel_General · · Score: 1

      I did a search for "Hunger Games" and instead found ... the Cliff's Notes for The Hunger Games. That lead me down the same path as you: It's not that these are great lines - or lines that a lot of people think are great - but they are lines that are important if you want to understand the themes of the books well enough to discuss them.

      I mean, one of the Top 20 is "The rules of the Hunger Games..." which is interesting and useful if you want to know something about the book. It's also something for which the gist could be memorized after reading it twice: 12 districts, 2 Tributes, fight to the death. No way someone reading it on their own would need to keep track of what is going on or where this is revealed. It would be like highlighting the paragraph where you find out that Moby Dick is a whale. "What! I'll have to keep track of that - it might be important later."

      And just as additional support, a couple of the other top 10 items are from "Pride and Prejudice": The first line of the book, and a comment deep into it about what "pride" is. Both of those, similarly, reveal much of what the book is about. And nobody who isn't reading for school would bother to highlight the first line of any book.

      TSG

  38. Re:Hmm. What a co-incki-dinck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was simple sarcasm, not a conspiracy theory.

  39. The Taylor Swift Effect in Action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Millions of 12 year olds can't be wrong!

  40. Selection Bias? by dbpatterson · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else think that these are ridiculous statistics? The kindle underlines passages that are already highlighted, which has the potential to make it a lot more likely that someone else will highlight the same passage. In any case, if amazon thinks this is an accurate measure of what passages people are interested in, I think they need to go back and learn a little bit about conducting studies. More likely, they think it is a gimmick that lets people feel like they are interacting with other readers, and value it as such.

  41. Why? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    It's pretty interesting to go through the top-100 list and look at the passages people think are worth highlighting.

    Why does Amazon think it is OK to look over my shoulder as I read a book, and then publish the results of what it sees?

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you agreed to it, along with millions of others?

  42. The number one word? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    Huh. I would have expected "eskimo" to be the number one highlighted word.

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    Chelloveck
    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  43. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Talk about the dumbing down of American literacy.

  44. How To Lie With Statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are these numbers normalized by number of readers or books bought? If not, it's just a "Most Popular Book" contest. You can't highlight what you don't own and haven't read.

  45. I am really sorry about this. by neiras · · Score: 2

    Her house brooded behind partially trimmed hedges, an island of shadow under willow trees. Ryan Davenport, 18, shuddered as the sun passed behind a cloud. Sophia was in there. His Adams' apple bobbed as he swallowed, unease shadowing his handsome face.

    His mind was made up. It was time to meet the parents.

    The drone of unseen hedge trimmers somewhere nearby dulled his roiling mind. "Keep it together, R-dawg. Keep it together." Breathing slowly wasn't working. His pounding heart moved oxygen-deprived blood through even the most engorged of organs. Images of Sophia's svelte form flickered in his minds' eye, and he gasped for breath. Soon.

    One step, then another. Through the hedge gate, into the shadow of the trees. He seemed to float towards the door. He was going to do it. As Ryan reached for the bell, a deeper shadow fell. The hedge trimmer had fallen silent.

    He tried to turn, but it was too late.

    At the scream of suddenly-right-behind-him electric trimmer, Ryan froze. His vision blurred and his head was whipped back and forth in a motion that reminded him of the paint-can shaker at the hardware store. There was a curious ripping sound. Tatters of bloody ear whacked warm, sticky tracers across his face, again and again.

    "I told you never to come back here, you horny bastard." said the shadow, raising the now-dripping trimmer. Ryan staggered away. Sophie's naked form receded from his mind. He couldn't speak. The world outside the hedge gleamed in late afternoon sunlight, beckoning, beckoning. Unattainable.

    A blow fell, and Ryan fell with it.

    1. Re:I am really sorry about this. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's pretty good. Let me know when the ebook comes out. You've got at least one customer.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
  46. Probably so by anyaristow · · Score: 1

    Amazon reviews are so thoroughly gamed it wouldn't surprise me one bit to learn there's a campaign/reward system in place for highlighting passages in ebooks that Amazon is more than happy to ignore. Some of their "top reviewers" sell search optimization services and are brazen enough to advertise them in their Amazon profiles.

  47. Re:Hmm. What a co-incki-dinck! by Herve5 · · Score: 1

    To some extent, this kind of bias may also be an actual self-fulfilling prophecy, exactly like a pessimistic financial prediction would be in the mouth of a country's minister of finances, but in another, more intellectual (??) domain ;-)

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    Herve S.
  48. Re:Hmm. What a co-incki-dinck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eBooks and eBook readers weren't nearly as prevalent 3 years ago as they are now.

  49. MOD PARENT UP by Jamori · · Score: 1

    A big part of the success of such books is that most of the people that read them only read fashionable books. They've not read anything that's genuinely good, so they can't tell how bad they are. Since they don't know any better and have enjoyed the plot, they'll rave about the book, which perpetuates the myth that it's a "good" book. It's highly unlikely that they will expand their reading to any decent authors; at best they will read other books by the same author, keeping them away from genuinely good reading material.

    This is one of the most insightful sentiments expressed in this thread...