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UK ISPs Ordered To Block Pirate Bay
Barence writes "Five of Britain's biggest ISPs have been ordered to block access to The Pirate Bay. Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media have been told to block access to the site. Britain's biggest ISP, BT, has been given a few further weeks to 'consider its position.' Music lobby group, the BPI, welcomed the move, saying music creators 'deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else' and calling for those who use The Pirate Bay to illegally download content to 'explore the many digital music services operating ethically and legally in the UK.'"
http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-unblock-the-pirate-bay-111004/
nuff said?
who where what when now?
Because, you know, TPB is the only torrent site on the Interwebs. People won't use other sites or find a work-around. Nope. Not at all.
Yet again, we have another example of an inefficient government being too slow to act. Now, the question should be : Is it inefficent AND slow? Or just inefficient?
Quartz Extreme and Core Image. Are there any other real reasons to spend all that money on generic hardware?
I'm not with one of the "big 6" ISP's but I'm with an independent LLU that uses their cable.
Will they be forced to block it as well?
Not a big problem for me, as their is always a way around it!
Laters Sol "Have you found the secrets of the universe? Asked Zebade "I'm sure I left them here somewhere"
That's piracy sorted, what's next?
Do the BPI members use the same Hollywood accounting methodology to pay their contracted artists, like charging "breakage" against digital music download sales? If so then the BPI concern over the artists getting paid is hypocritically laughable.
There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
"explore the many digital music services operating ethically and legally in the UK.'"
Yes, and you "can have any color of model T, as long as its black." Please. The popularity of the pirate bay suggests that the 'many digital music services' are woefully lacking in something the pirate bay provides; And study after study have shown that it's not the price that's driving people to those sites, but the ease of use and lack of DRM. People are, in fact, willing to pay to be entertained... they just don't believe that the pricing model accurately reflects the entertainment value of the product -- and when every song is priced the same at the various digitla music stores, that's pretty good evidence they're right; Nobody would say that Manos, Hands of Fate is of equal value to say, The Dark Knight. Well, nobody except the entertainment industry...
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
Music lobby group, the BPI, welcomed the move, saying music creators 'deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else'
I agree. It's just unfortunate that when you buy mainstream music only a very tiny percentage goes to the music creators. Most of it goes to record label fat cats and towards lobbying for shit like this ban.
Everything Everywhere changes name to Most Things Almost Everywhere
Every single artist on the promo bay should sue the monopoly for anti competitive business practices.
They think they are punishing TPB by blocking it, and that other torrent sites will be afraid because of the example they make of TPB. It is the sort of thinking that comes from politicians who grew up in a pre-Internet age.
Palm trees and 8
As a British citizen I am getting more and more sick of the incompetent morons who govern this country.
Maybe instead of takings bribes from the likes of Rupert Murdoch, outmoded business like the recording industry and the fundamentally failed banking sector they could do some of the following:
- Financial transaction taxes. Stop the crazy gambling in the financial sector
- How about cutting fuel taxes (paid for by a 1% increase in corporation tax.) Everyone needs stuff moved around so making it cheaper can only be a good thing.
- Invest in actual industry rather than bailing out the failed financial sector. You've spent hundreds of billions on this and have nothing to show for it.
- Build fucking nuclear power stations. Solar, wind, wave, etc are completely impractical so stop wasting money on them
- Stop wasting money on wars
- Open up the government and stop fucking with your people
I'm not even sure who is worth voting for anymore. The Conservatives are as corrupt and sleazy as they were under Thatcher, Labour offer nothing more than "we wouldn't do what the Conservatives are doing but we won't bother to offer any ideas of our own" and the Liberal Democrats have sold themselves out to the Conservatives. Not one of these parties is willing to take any risks or do anything that requires telling the banking sector "NO!" The political class in the UK is completely rotten.
Blocking sites? seems a little familiar, what's next?
The Spanish Inquisition!
Nobody expects to see the Spanish Inquisition.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
capitalism
Music lobby group, the BPI, welcomed the move, saying music creators 'deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else'
"Just like everyone else" means "once".
Indeed. We need a name for the situation in which a company does something beneficial not for any altruistic or ethical reasons, but simply because the most profitable path happens to be aligned with the interests of the users.
Once upon a time, that was called "doing business".
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
It will now be easier to justify/implement blocking other unapproved sites.
The main problem with doing this for piracy is that so many people do it. They are fighting a large proportion of all people.
Censorship should be limited to only the most egregious things, if that, or it WILL be expanded.
expandfairuse.org
I've taken to hanging around HMV and tutting disapprovingly when I see anyone take a CD to the check-out. Don't they realise that money is going to fund a terrorist organization that seeks to censor the proletariat?
"Oh, no! I'm being called out for my straw man!"
You don't have to run a Tor relay/exit. In fact, it's off by default.
Posted this on the Guardian site but no reply so thought I'd ask here. As far as I know this ruling is only applicable in England and Wales as Scotland and Northern Ireland, while part of the UK has their own legal system. So therefore the block should not apply to customers in Scotland and Northern Ireland? I'm sure it would be easier for the ISPs to attempt a blanket block for a technical point of view but if so could their Scottish and Northern Irish customers have grounds to complain?
They already had it.. It was supposed to be limited to the most egregious things, it was expanded, and it WILL be expanded.
Music lobby group, the BPI, welcomed the move, saying music creators 'deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else'
Then maybe there should be some laws against the record labels which don't even pay the artists shit?
and calling for those who use The Pirate Bay to illegally download content to 'explore the many digital music services operating ethically and legally in the UK.'"
I invite those slimy pigs to make a legal and ethical living themselves.
I have left slashdot and am now on Soylent News. FUCK YOU DICE.
The slippery slope is real.
Keeping a child rapist from moving next to a school to victimize the children seems like both a noble goal and easy to implement and with only good consequences. (*)
Only now you've empowered government to decide where you can live. Where you live is a revokable privilege, not a right.
That will only be used against those monsters, right? right? Good people have NOTHING to worry about.
WRONG.
Las Vegas bans even misdemeanor drug offenders from even entering a major portion of the city.
Google "order out corridor". OOPS!
Precedents are a dangerous thing.
Creating infrastructure is a dangerous thing too.
Onstar can be used by the government to listen to your conversations and even to disable your car, by making it think it is stolen - it will refuse to start.
(*) Life without parole for the real monsters would eliminate the need for this stuff AND protect the children!
Or a 38 cent bullet.
But they don't want to protect the children, they want to control society with an iron fist. Letting molestors out of prison makes people fearful and then they pass these laws, and get precedents, and eventually you have weed heads being banned from huge parts of the city (ironically the Las Vegas order out corridor is so big - drug offenders are more restricted than molestors! Then again, molestation makes the politicans stronger, and drugs reduce their power.)
Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
The more pressure is being put on those highly visible sites, the sooner truly distributed anonymous censorship-resistant and highly resilient p2p systems would not only emerge, but gain widespread adoption. And the more legitimate mainstream sites start appearing on those p2p networks as well, the more those networks will become indispensable and necessary part of everybody's infrastructure. THEN, and only then, governments won't be able to outlaw anon p2p, and we will have won this war, against all odds and against formidable opponents with seemingly unlimited resources. That would be the victory of the free human spirit.
Or, to put in another way: we've grown too lazy by sticking to existing, but highly vulnerable file sharing mechanisms. Only effective pressure from the MAFIAA will help us move forward towards next generation better and more robust architectures. Maybe these Copyright Taliban are doing us a favor, by forcing us to develop and migrate towards a communication system that will be truly uncensorable and that will be our main channel for free speech in the not so distant future.
cpghost at Cordula's Web.