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Rare Operating Apple 1 Rakes In $374,500 At Sotheby's Auction
coondoggie writes "It's not one-of-a-kind, but it's pretty darn close. Sotheby's this week auctioned off a rare, working Apple 1 computer for $374,500 to an unnamed bidder. The price was more than double the expected price listed on the Sotheby's web site. Sotheby's notes about the Apple 1 say it is one of six thought-to-be-operational boxes and one of about 50 known to exist."
Sounds like a pretty run of the mill Apple mark up...
Still cheaper than an iPhone
Imagine a.. wait, I can't. there's only 6 of them.
I'd definitely want AppleCare for this one, those Apple 1 computers are notoriously fragile.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Very scarce and unique item, that thing should be pretty hard to copy as all the chips on the board are impossible to manufacture nowdays. Who does MOS at that big scale today ? Or the other rare electronic components inside..
Such an artifact might be worth millions in a few decades, should be a good anti-inflation bet.
It's even user upgradable.
Ewwwwwwww
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
...a retail price of $666.66, a number that garnered complaints among conservative Christians
A new Apple I, $666.66. Upsetting conservative Christians, priceless.
There are a few replicas available for those of us who can't afford a real Apple 1. The least expensive is Briel Computers' "Replica 1" which is not a cosmetic replica but more of a "work-alike" computer. Applefritter.com's Tom Owad wrote a book based on that kit. On the other extreme is Mike Willegal's "Mimeo 1" which is an extremely accurate reproduction. I know the people behind these kits/sites and they're all very hobby-centric.
I have a TRS-80 in my attic. Haven't powered it on for a few years, but it worked last time I tried it. It was made in 1977. To be fair, there was no reality distortion field model released with this particular brand.
Was apple evil back then? Or did that only happen later?
...if you take that puppy to a 'Genius Bar'. Most of those geniuses wouldn't even know what it was, and that the Woz actually built it with his bare hands.
Silence is a state of mime.
They didn't make everything out of CRAP in those days. I've got electrolytics over 50 years old in an R-392 surplus tube type receiver that still work fine - the whole receiver works fine, dozens of tubes, intricate geared ganged tuning slugs and all. If you contracted to build that thing today you would probably pay north of $100,000 per, even using surplus tubes from ebay.
I've got a 10,000 uF 15 V electrolytic I bought around 1960 or so, somewhere. Or was it 100,000? If I can find it, I can test it with a DVM and a resistor.
There are other, rarer items from that era that consistently sell for much less. I won't speculate on the other possibilities, but technology enthusiast can safely be ruled out.
Not that hard it seems...
http://www.brielcomputers.com/wordpress/?cat=17
I've got better things to do tonight than die.
Of course they did. It's just that the crap stuff isn't here anymore, so the survivors were the better ones.
Same deal with houses, when some idiot says that they make worse houses now, they're forgetting about all the crap houses from back then that don't exist anymore.
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
It is only selling due to nostalgia.
I honestly doubt it will be worth much in 100 years.
One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / the next it's rolling over me / I can get back on / I can get back on
They didn't make everything out of CRAP in those days
Average build quality may have been higher (though it wasn't always), but that doesn't change the fact that old electrolytic caps will still fail. If you read a guide on troubleshooting an old solid-state pinball machine from the late 1970s or early 1980s, one of the first things it will tell you to do is replace the filter caps. They can and usually do go bad over time, causing unstable operation.
You realize that there are only SIX known operating Apple 1's, right? The production run was around 200. That means roughly 3% survived - the rest are either in a landfill, or non-operational. And who knows what condition they are in - for all we know, they could've had parts replaced (including capacitors).
Heck, the original Apple 1 hanging at 1 Infinite Loop might not even work anymore. (It's sitting in a plaque marked "Our Founder").
You might want to look into the difference between a Linux kernel and a BSD kernel (which is what OSX is based on). The differences are not... trivial.
Women are like electronics: you don't know how damaged they are until you try to turn them on.
While that is certainly true, i'd add that back then there simply weren't that many manufacturers for chips and caps so you didn't get really chip shitty dodgy parts like you do today. back then the boards were thick, traces thick, caps were made by a few companies for primarily industrial uses so were built tough, there just wasn't tons of truly cheap shitty parts to build something like that out of.
This is why I'd argue that its easier, when comparing number existing VS number made of course, that its more likely that old VIC or Atari VCS will work well VS say your average PC from 1994 or the first Playstations, because by that time it was a LOT easier to cut corners by using cheap chips than it was in the late 1970s. There is a good reason why a lot of today's stuff is called 'designed for the dump" and that is because the parts are so thin and cheap that you can practically look at it funny and kill the damned thing whereas i can't even count how many times i knocked my old VIC off my desktop into the floor and it was still working when it disappeared during my last move 5 years ago.
Finally i have to wonder whether we'll have anything THAT old still working 36 years from now thanks to the new solder and tin whiskers. I have an engineering buddy and you want to hear an all day rant just bring up the new solder, he says he can't count the number of times he's opened up something fairly new that failed and couldn't trace it back to the new solder. So while I wouldn't be surprised if you'll be able to find PCs from the 70s and 80s still running i have to wonder if we'll see anything from our current era or will it all be in the dump.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Nostalgia won't exist in 100 years?
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Awesome analogy! I really want to learn that soliloquy from Devil Wears Prada..
For those who don't get it, http://youtu.be/1LVptO7o4L8#t=1m25s
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OSX is NetBSD with a propitary UI, supposedly based on next (ATT/SCO Unix System 4?) ... usually by people who have not used a next machine for any significant amount of time, anyway you can download the open source version called Darwin, with no apple code what so ever from Apple's website. To date the only unix operating system in a very small segment of consumer desktop computing ... either way not nearly as innovative as people like to think, it was over a decade old idea when it came out.
Also it wasn't really the Ipod that changed the music industry, its just a player ... during a time when everyfuckingbody had a MP3 player on the market, it was iTunes, the application and marketplace that allowed you to get qulity music virus free without stealing that changed the music industry ... maybe ... kind of sort of ...
And if you were not aware, those millions of jobs are in China, which compared to civilized work conditions are a dungeon, though slowly getting slightly better.
Anywho, I just think you should know some facts before getting all buthurt because people dont like apple... I dont like them because of their games going all the way back to their 8 bit systems with incompatible hardware for their own computers, moving on to proprietary ram and device bios's, onwards to prams that would lock up, and the manual says you need to take it to a dealer so they can hit the button hidden under the cpu for you (8500 I am looking at you) to today, where if you just happen to bought a small selection of apple computers you need a fucking magic SATA plug no one makes.
Piss on that, no thanks
If you kill this Apple 1, will all the other Apple devices around the world revert to a move open and less evil state?
I know a guy still on his first Xbox 360!
It truly warms my heart that someone caught the reference, and the humor. And yes, the people who marked me down didn't get it; they were too busy feverishly googling BSD and Linux history to see that my post was actually a rant from a 2006 film about the fashion industry. Please stop being so serious, SD'ers :)
Actually, it has solid-state storage, no DVD-R, no BD support, not much on gaming, and it HAS a retina display (if you stand back far enough)...
Its the same in the software industry. You make so much money from support that it doesn't pay to make things that last (see my sig).
http://michaelsmith.id.au
Depends on whether Apple's still a force to be reckoned with. If Apple's dominating the electronics-implanted-directly-into-your-eyeball trade the way it dominates phones a working Apple I assembled by none other the Woz's sister is gonna be pretty damn valuable.
Heck even if it isn't a force to be reckoned with if Apple is recognized as a pivotal and important company it's products will be valuable as antiques. Stradivarius violins ain't cheap.
thats true indeed, my only point was that it is not "just os-x" did not want to open that can of worms.
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Ahhh, I dream of the day that leaded solder is used again in electronics. Got to love brain-dead environmentalists who don't bother researching WHY some things are done the way they are.
Lead paint in kids toys? Yea, no good reason for that.
Lead solder in electronics? VERY VERY VERY GOOD F*****G REASONS FOR USING IT.
Any environmental savings is more than made up by the lowered reliability and shorter lifespans. Anyone who thinks lead-free solder has been a good idea is either ignorant of its problems or an idiot.
I wonder how often the working ones were powered up over the years? Generally speaking, electrolytic capacitors will last longer if they are used occasionally.
I don't have to read anything. I have first hand experience with many kinds of antique electronics. I'm not going to tell you that electrolytics never failed until crap manufacturers started using crap constituents and crap manufacturing in the late 90's, but I CAN tell you they didn't practically always fail after a piss-poor life like they did after that. And I CAN tell you a lot of mil surplus stuff from Vietnam, Korea, and WW-II still works, original electrolytics and all. That's not a guess; that's first hand experience. I CAN tell you that it's not uncommon that computer equipment from the 70s and 80s still works, but it IS uncommon that stuff from the late 90s through at least the mid 2000's works for more than a few years, and there is still a lot of crap being built, though it is starting to recover a little from the nadir of around 2000.
I find it amazing that the three 2,400uF electrolytic capacitors are still working after 36 years! These capacitors slowly degrade over time--I wonder what their capacitance is today?
Mine still work. And the capacitance of those computer-grade caps stays pretty good, even after all this time.
Having said that, I still brought my Apple 1 up on a Variac, with all the chips removed, the last time I fired it up.
Ahhh, I dream of the day that leaded solder is used again in electronics. Got to love brain-dead environmentalists who don't bother researching WHY some things are done the way they are.
Lead paint in kids toys? Yea, no good reason for that.
Lead solder in electronics? VERY VERY VERY GOOD F*****G REASONS FOR USING IT.
Any environmental savings is more than made up by the lowered reliability and shorter lifespans. Anyone who thinks lead-free solder has been a good idea is either ignorant of its problems or an idiot.
Yeah. And they didn't even replace it with some known-inert metal, either.
Twenty years from now, they'll be bitching about all the Bismuth and Indium leaching into the water table.
Mark my words. You heard it here, first!
You realize that there are only SIX known operating Apple 1's, right? The production run was around 200. That means roughly 3% survived - the rest are either in a landfill, or non-operational. And who knows what condition they are in - for all we know, they could've had parts replaced (including capacitors).
Heck, the original Apple 1 hanging at 1 Infinite Loop might not even work anymore. (It's sitting in a plaque marked "Our Founder").
I think that one got sold, didn't it.
Oh, and it's SEVEN now. My one-owner Apple 1 still works, and it isn't in the Apple 1 Registry. Mike Willeagal (who runs the Apple 1 Registry site) says he can't figure out where Sotheby's came up with the "Six working" figure, except maybe they counted the ones on his site that mention that they have BEEN working.
I'm curious if the buyer was a technology enthousiast, Apple lover or simply someone making a future investment? With all the craze for Jobs, it feels like such an item would probably rise in value in the future.
I dunno; but I just hope there's another one JUST like that buyer when it comes time for me to sell MY WORKING APPLE 1
Anywho, I just think you should know some facts before getting all buthurt because people dont like apple... I dont like them because of their games going all the way back to their 8 bit systems with incompatible hardware for their own computers, moving on to proprietary ram and device bios's, onwards to prams that would lock up, and the manual says you need to take it to a dealer so they can hit the button hidden under the cpu for you (8500 I am looking at you) to today, where if you just happen to bought a small selection of apple computers you need a fucking magic SATA plug no one makes.
Ok, I'll bite.
As the owner of a working Apple 1, that I have personally owned since May, 1977, and as owner of many, if not all, of the Apple computers you mention in your off-base rant, I wish to dissect your infantile and incorrect diatribe one sentence-fragment at a time:
8 bit systems with incompatible hardware for their own computers
WTF are you even talking about here? What "incompatible hardware"? Are you talking about the Apple 1, Apple ][, or what? Because there aren't any other 8 bit Apple computers.
proprietary ram
Again, WTF? Are you speaking of the fact that they tended to use "non-parity" RAM? Hardly "proprietary"; just not the usual PeeCee standard.
[proprietary] device bios's
Incorrect use of the apostrophe aside, are you talking about Open Firmware? Because, if you are, that happened to be a PUBLISHED STANDARD that was largely spearheaded by Sun. And Apple hasn't used OF since the switch to Intel in 2005. That's seven years ago. Let it go... Oh, and the EFI standard that Microsoft and the PeeCee world had to be drug into kicking and screaming was ALSO a PUBLISHED STANDARD created by (IIRC) Intel and others. Hardly "Proprietary". But do rant on...
prams that would lock up
The PRAM wouldn't "lock up". It would occasionally (but FAR less often than people thought!) get corrupted data, necessitating a USER action to clear it up (Hold Down Command-Option-P-R on Bootup. Wait for the chime. Release keys. Done).
and the manual says you need to take it to a dealer so they can hit the button hidden under the cpu for you (8500 I am looking at you) to today
Oh, NOW you're conflating the PRAM reset (which I detailed above) with the FAR less common CUDA/Systems Management Reset. I think I've had to hit that one ONCE in over THIRTY YEARS of owning Apple computers. And that was when the next door neighbor's garage caught fire and burned through our overhead power lines, causing the AC line coming into my G5 tower to do all SORTS of interesting things before I finally flipped the main breaker on my house, about 30 seconds before the main "drop" into my house burned in HALF and dropped to the ground. I located the Systems Management button, pressed it, and my G5 tower? Well, I'm typing this post on it.
I NEVER had to press the CUDA button on my 8500, even after the mice (I mean REAL mice!) crawled into an open PCI slot-hole, and started to LIVE IN MY 8500, eventually ruining the CPU card by pissing on it. Replaced the CPU card, cleaned up all the mouse "droppings" (ewwwww!!!) Rebooted, and the 8500 still worked when retired a few years back...
f you just happen to bought a small selection of apple computers you need a fucking magic SATA plug no one makes.
WTF are you talking about?!? Thunderbolt? Or are you talking about the iMac hard drives with the thermal sensor integrated? Because the former doesn't make sense, and the latter was a case of Apple being ahead of an industry standard that appeared not to end up taking off.
If you wanted to bitch about something being "proprietary", then you SHOULD have been bitching about Apple's ancient, odd, penchant for TRULY proprietary Video connectors. But, being the ignorant fucktard that you are, you completely missed the ONE "Proprietary" thing I would have actually AGREED with you about!
Idiot.
About 10 years ago I saw an Apple 1 sell for a little over $9,000 on eBay including the original wooden case and I thought that was marginally justifiable. This auction result is just ridiculous, it's simply too high.
So, I can take you off the potential bidder list for my Apple 1, then?
Nice to see i'm not the only one who thinks its retarded. I've been recently sorting through the stuff in my late sister's trailer with a neighbor who asked to rent it and it really shows what a difference lead solder makes when we were firing up all this stuff that had been sitting for years and damned near everything fired right up. the late 70s TV, the old microwave, VCR, hell just about every damned thing we plugged in fired right up despite being in an abandoned trailer with no heat for a couple of years.
Compare this to I don't know how many electronics I've tossed a month or two passed warranty, after i got to be buds with an ex NASA engineer i'd swing them by his place and sure enough, tin whisker death. Doesn't matter how well a device is taken care of either, those things are like ticking time bombs and when they go they usually do enough damage to make it not worth fixing.
So I'd personally love to see the figures, i think the only ones that have gained from this "designed for the dump" solder has been the manufacturers. That neighbor that is taking my sis's place is gonna use all that gear because even after all this time it works like brand new, yet thanks to the new solder damned near everything i get now won't last 6 months past warranty. that is one of the reasons I'll never let go of my Trace Elliot bass amp, i got one of the last Brit made ones that used the old solder. My guitarist has had to take his amps into the shop at least 3 times in the past few years, in each case? Tin whiskers. I swear that shit is nothing but useless as far as i'm concerned.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
1) apple II, disk drives, disk II, unidisk, duo disk and the 3.5 inch variants, depending on what you happen to own may or may not work, I have a IIC it works with the unidisk, some cable hacking it will work with the disk II, but not with the apple 5.25 disk without a rom upgrade. On the IIe a unidisk wont work with the disk 2 controller and etc, its a fucking dumb device why incompatible?
2) no I am talking about weird shit, name one other computer that used 168 pin 3 volt edo ram with a propitary dimm socket with the slot cut 2 pins away from standard
3) no I am talking about the stupid ass video bios, hard drive bios and cd rom bios you had to have or bypass in order to avoid the apple tax on otherwise standard hardware
4) bullshit, it would lock up every time you booted the computer with a slightly different hardware configuration, and I have personally had to reset it over 30 times ON one machine while fighting with video drivers cause I dared to change monitors, and re-arrange hard disks, the keyboard shortcut didnt make it in every version of the mac roms
5) oh so using a standard sata drive with a non standard pinout and connector that you could only get from apple is now being ahead of the curve, I call it being fucked over
6) video connectors? yea its a pain in the ass, but if you have delt with their bullshit above a 99 cent adapter is the least of your problems. I am not the retard here, I am the abused broken free, you on the other hand...
I see its apparent you are an appliance user, when apple tells you to jump to the new model you have zero problems plopping down another 2-3 grand shelving a perfectly good unit obsoleted by a rom upgrade while shouting "yes sir!"
In case anyone is wondering, here is a list of failures cause by Tin whiskers.
http://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/failures/
Note that we are talking about failures a bit more serious than your netbook, we are talking about communication satellites and NUCLEAR REACTORS. Yes, the people who say nuclear power is unsafe are working to make nuclear power unsafe.
Reminds me of the worldwide Chlorine ban that Greenpeace was proposing in the 80's. (Patrick Moore left Greenpeace over this.) Yea, go drink non-Chlorinated water for a year, I call dibs on your stuff when you're dead from Cholera. People need to THINK about these things.
Then there is the fact that mining Tin is VERY damaging to the environment, much more so than mining Lead.
Great, not only more billions crapped away but more space junk two, /double facepalm/. what pisses ME off is it isn't like we didn't already have precedent for simply having a reclamation fee, I'm sure most would have agreed like me to happily pay an extra $5-$10 a device to have it last for years instead of tossing all that money not to mention toxic materials into our landfills. I can tell you I've seen a hell of a lot of laptops and netbooks killed waaay too damned early by the whiskers, hell i got a nice mobile Athlon I need to take by my NASA buddy to see if he can salvage that wasn't even old enough to lose the shine to the plastic, about 4 months passed warranty and zzzt. i have NO doubt when he opens it it'll be those damned whiskers.
But frankly I've always know the tree huggers were retarded, I've seen them protest our nuke plant and I've been in the thing and taken a tour, those two plants are as nice as the day they were built and talking to a former HS classmate that works there they constantly run scenarios for every possible emergency on a full size simulator built next door yet the tree huggers will have a fit, while ignoring the ONLY way to replace it in this area would be a coal fired which of course leaves much worse radiation and toxic sludge. I've taken a tour of a coal plant and frankly those things are just nasty, that shit gets everywhere.
But I can tell you that the ROHS solder is just a fricking disaster, my NASA buddy helps the local college with its rocketry and robotics programs and he's is having to pretty much build everything from scratch because those higher stresses just make that shit fail that much quicker. I've got him looking into BeagleBoards and Arduinos but frankly i can't blame him for being gunshy, not with all the damned failures he's had to deal with that comes down to that craptastic solder. he says there is just no way in hell to make that shit safe to use, its just worthless.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Since you have nicely enumerated the list, I won't go through the pain of in-line commenting.
//c (I never owned a //c, so I may be wrong about the slots). What are you calling a "Disk II"? That's the Shugart (ribbon cable) drive. The unidisk was a completely different beast, being a 3.5" drive. It actually DID use the (at that point, Integrated) Woz Machine at the controller end (which is why you could plug it into a //c) but in an ENTIRELY different way. The UniDisk (actually UniDisk 3.5, IIRC) actually had a microcontroller on board the drive (the Liron Controller), which basically just used the computer-side's controller as a Serial Bus (rather than a raw "nibble" bus). In fact, when I first got my hands on a UniDisk, I immediately wrote an assembly-language program that ran IN THE DRIVE to do dump the Drive's ROM out, and also wrote a few other things that ran in that drive.
//c. So, stop being so butthurt about Moore's Law, willya?
1. Time does march on. The original Apple ][ (Shugart 400) drives and the later DuoDisk (Alps) drives were essentially the same, internally. That is to say, except for the connector, there was really nothing different about the controller card, data format, etc. Although I personally hated the Duo Disk, it was the only real way to get an external drive onto a "slotless" machine like the
But NONE of that was INTENDED to screw over users; in fact, the reason why the UniDisk was so complicated internally was PRECISELY so that it could work with an UNMODIFIED
2. Since it was part of the STANDARD, I assume you don't know what you are talking about here. And the proof is that those RAMs were READILY available from, oh, just about everybody. And that is while Apple had a single-digit marketshare. So, again, NOT "proprietary". Next!
3. Now you're just making shit up. WTF are you even talking about? Seriously. WTF? I have personally used commodity RAM, commodity Hard Drives, commodity VGA monitors, commodity optical drives in/with ALL of my Macs since they were "expandable" (so, since about 1988). So I repeat, WTF? There simply IS no such thing as a "video BIOS", or "Hard Drive BIOS" of "CD-ROM BIOS". Never heard of them.
4. Perhaps you had a bad machine. Happens. As I said, ONCE in 30 years and SEVERAL Macs. Both my own, and hundreds more that I have administered. There IS no Keyboard Shortcut for the CUDA/Systems Management MCU (actually, I think that there was one on ONE laptop). Are you conflating the PRAM with the CUDA again? But moving right along...
5 and 6. I really don't think Apple had "lock-in" in mind. At worst, they were pushing the industry to incorporate the pesky thermal sensor, and the cost-sensitive HD industry didn't want the extra cost, since other OEMs didn't seem to be interested in making it easier to swap hard drives (by not having to mess with a thermal sensor attached with STICKY TAPE). But, we'll call this one a draw; because I really don't know why they did that on some of the iMacs. What you don't consider is that sometimes Apple does things to make it easier for themselves to manufacture, OR (like the ADC) to make it easier for the USER (in the case of the Apple Display Connector, Jobs was trying to reduce cable clutter), that APPEAR to be about "lock-in", when in reality, is just their way of doing things in a different (and if the industry would follow) often BETTER way. But you go ahead and spin everything in the most negative light possible.
I am anything BUT an "appliance user" (but that DOES describe about 99% of the userbase of ALL computers!). I am an embedded design engineer (both hardware and software). And I HARDLY jump when Apple brings out a new model. In fact, the ONLY "new" Apples I have purchased have been my Apple ][+ (1980), and my G5 tower (2005). Everything else has been purchased through eBay (575, 6100, 8500), fished out of a dumpster and fixed by me
Where did he say anything like that? he said it's a pretty good estimate.
Mike Willegal, an engineer with a major technology company, says “That’s probably a pretty good estimate of original Apple-1s that have been operated in the last four or five years.”
I was paraphrasing from an email exchange I had with Mike. Here's my queston, and exactly what he said in response:
The TUAW article I saw the news about the auction last week stated that this was one of six WORKING Apple 1s. Where did they arrive at that number?
And Mike responded:
Not sure where they got that number, but probably from counting the units on my registry that I know that have been operated within the last few years - I don't think the number is too far off - though getting a dysfunctional unit or unit that hasn't been powered on in years working again, shouldn't be rocket science.
It will probably dominating in the same way that AT&T does today. It will be dominant, but hated.
Given inflation, if eveyrone kept using "the good stuff", we'd be paying over $10,000 for a low-end PC still. Given you can buy a PC for $500 all in (or much less), the loss in quality is probably justified when you consider back in the 70's, you probably were talking about a PC costing under $100. With monitor, keyboard, powersupply, etc. You'd be laughed right out of the room as NO ONE could do that. The MOS 6502 was popular because it costed only around $20 or so alone (the Motorola 68000 - easily $200+).
Then there's the usefulness factor. That PC from 1994? Most probably still worked when they were junked as they got obsolete by the turn of the millennium, if not earlier. (My parents still have one from the era, they use it to play one game (which I copied off and put onto DOSbox). Hell, I have a PC from 2000 I'm having to replace because Windows 2000 is dead, Firefox won't run on it anymore, and 512MB of RAM just isn't cutting it (and it can't run XP because 512 is barely adequate).
Most of what we have will be in the dump purely because there's no reason to keep it around. Or more precisely, at a recyclers because there's so much that can be reused and smelted. Rightfully so as well - most of the stuff isn't really worthy of saving - there just isn't anything special about them, and as people move about, more are recycled as it's not worth moving them about. Doubly so when you consider that modern day emulation is good enough that once the hardware dies ,the software can still live on.
Of course, there will still be the occasional one someone buried deep in their house and forgot all about until they went cleaning it years later.
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