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World's Most Powerful x86 Supercomputer Boots Up in Germany
Nerval's Lobster writes "Europe's most powerful supercomputer — and the fourth most powerful in the world — has been officially inaugurated. The SuperMUC, ranked fourth in the June TOP500 supercomputing listing, contains 147,456 cores using Intel Xeon 2.7-GHz, 8-core E5-2680 chips. IBM, which built the supercomputer, stated in a recent press release that the supercomputer actually includes more than 155,000 processor cores. It is located at the Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (Leibniz Supercomputing Centre) in Garching, Germany, near Munich. According to the TOP500 list, the SuperMUC is the world's most powerful X86-based supercomputer. The Department of Energy's 'Sequoia' supercomputer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., the world's [overall] most powerful, relies on 16-core, 1.6-GHz POWER BQC chips."
My fatass almost got excited for a second.. a supercomputer fueled by BBQ... :(
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powerful and x86 are oxymorons. Try the i860 architecture now THAT's a processor, it's ancient I know.
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I need to find myself some of these Power BBQ Chips mentioned in the summary. Fast and tangy without the downside of Cheetoh fingers.
crysis won't run on highest settings. Sjeez.
A few fries short of a happy meal eh?
But the real question is, can it run bitcoin mining software? See, you thought I was going to say Linux or Crysis, didn't you? lol.
;-)
P.S. most miners are run on Linux btw
If it was instead running Itanium (yes, I know that nobody uses Itanium any more) it would have been well suited to be called "Power BBQ" just by the heat output.
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Now if the Fed can just loan them our financial modeling software,
maybe we can save Spain.
On 2nd thought Goldman-Sachs might be a better place to shop for software.
I skimmed the article and couldn't find mention of what it's going to be calculating.
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It's EUROPE's fastest supercomputer - but the topic title says "World." Last time I checked, Europe wasn't quite THAT big...
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Now go and brush up on your German. Jeeeez.
That's quite a heater! Mine only goes up to 1.5 kilowatts.
So is Xeon a faster CPU than the i7?
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1) Does it run Linux?
2) I for one, would like to welcome our new register constrained overlord.
3) Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these?
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> actually includes more than 155,000 processor cores
Scientists and engineers toyed with putting Windows 8 on it, but Windows 8 with 150,000-200,000 core support was over $73 trillion.
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I think it's designed to run complex calculations on how the price of tea in china is related to everything.
play a game?
Has anyone created a 'super computer' out of raspberry pi's yet?
Can you send a screencast?
At those settings, it must be better than real life.
Every year I keep reading that there are these new technologies that allow processors to go up to 128, 256, 512 and 1024bit computing (and beyond) or at least should be seen in the next year or two but that never happens. I've been hearing about this since the turn of the century. So could somebody be kind enough to explain this to me please and whether or not this has a use for anyone?
I really hate how the focus these days is on more cores, not faster cores.
Not every task is trivially parallelizable, and even with those that are, the speedup you get from running on N cores is always going to be less than Nx.
I'd be much more impressed by a supercomputer running, say, 1/4 as many 4.0 GHz+ processors.
Also: if what you're going for is massively parallelizable tasks, x86 is so last century--GPGPUs are where it's at.
with all those cpus. :)
Something that can boot Windows 8 in a reasonable amout of time...
Xeons are available in 8 and 10 core models (this computer uses the 8 core version) whereas i7s are only 4 and 6 core.
I'm glad they didn't use Cyrix CPUs.
The 16, 32, 64, 128-bit computing refers to the standard register size for integers and pointers in a processor. Specifically, a 32-bit computer can generally access 2^32 locations of memory, which is 4GB. A "true" 64-bit processor would be able to address 2^64 (18 quintrillian) bytes of memory. However, x86-64 only use 40 bytes for addressing, which will handle 1 TB of RAM. Additionally, doubling the data size makes every operation take significantly longer, so clock speeds have to suffer. Since very few applications actually need 64-bit or higher math functions, its more efficient to implement higher order stuff in software, and have a faster executing processor.
64 bits are enough to perform any kind of needed computation. More bits would imply larger instructions, larger memory pointers, less usable cache space; basically a waste.
Just think that now there's a proposal of switching many applications to use 32 bits pointers (on Linux) even if using 64 bits registers, so that more space is available for L1, L2 and L3 cache.
Hope this helps, cheers
Don't mix up addressing and computing.
The whole internet would fit in a 64 bit address space, there is really absolutely no need at all for more than 64 bit for addresses in CPUs, that's why x86_64 and other 64 bit archs are here to stay, and you'll probably never see "128 bit" processors at all.
On the other side, today's x86_64 CPUs are capable of 128 bit (SSE) and 256 bit (AVX) computing. The width of the compute units is also bound to increase for some time, with Intel already planning to go 1024 bit in the not-so-far future.
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x86 hasn't been limited to 4GB of ram since the Pentium Pro!
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Not always true. The 68000 has 8 x 32bit address and 8 x 32bit data registers, with a 24bit address bus. Nearly all operations can be performed as 32bit. Yet it's reguarded as a 16bit cpu.
will consume 50% of the CPU. If they run windows, 80% of the rest will be consumed by DPCs. That leaves 10% for the intended function.
World's Most Powerful x86 Supercomputer Boots Up in Germany
So, how fast does it boot?
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Not always true. The 68000 has 8 x 32bit address and 8 x 32bit data registers, with a 24bit address bus. Nearly all operations can be performed as 32bit.
Yet it's reguarded as a 16bit cpu.
The 68000 had a 16-bit external bus and 32-bit internal architecture.
It was regarded as a 16/32-bit processor.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of SuperMUCs, or a cluster of clusters which would be semantically reduced to just 'cluster'....so just imagine a beowulf cluster.
But what sort of video card has it got?
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Sure, it takes a while to manufacture the physical components, but they should have switched to a Flex configuration even midway in the installation process - would have saved money in the long run.
The CPU core is Sandy Bridge so the processor is 64-bit i.e. X86-64. I guess that since you would be hard pressed to find a non 64-bit X86 system today they skipped that bit. This is what used to happen in the past as well. We have had X86-16, X86-32, X86-64 up to now. Besides the addressing space is not of the utmost importance since this is most likely a cluster with message-passing.
However, x86-64 only use 40 bytes for addressing, which will handle 1 TB of RAM.
40 *bytes* would be overkill and more than a TB, and 40 bits is outdated information:
"Current implementations of the AMD64 architecture (starting from AMD 10h microarchitecture) extend this to 48-bit physical addresses[9] and therefore can address up to 256 TB of RAM. The architecture permits extending this to 52 bits in the future"
So without a new architecture, can hit a petabyte of ram. There are systems with multiple terabytes of ram on a system already (see IBM x3850 x5 for example)
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My first reading of the article:
"1.6-GHz POWER BBQ chips."
Well, that is some fast barbecue.
What is the most powerful 1 processor machine?
There are problems that many processors can't handle as well as single processors, so I was wondering what is the KingKong of processors.
Some problems are inherently best handled by many processors (weather, seismic analysis, 3D processing, keeping websites up when having DOS attacks, come to mind) so the many little processors are great. Still I admire the large processor that can crunch more than anything else.
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The traces in the chips are 2.5 atoms thick, the distance between traces is 22nm for the most modern production technique, there is some room for squeezing it down a bit more, but there aren't many more significant drops in size that can be made.
GPGPU has a long way to go to be flexible enough for general purpose work.
Besides the real push needs to be the push for less power per op, at 1GF/watt, exaflops are a problem.
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