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Mac OS X Mountain Lion Gets Three Million Downloads In 4 Days

hypnosec writes "Apple has announced that its latest Mac OS X version, Mountain Lion, has had three million downloads in just four days thereby making it the most successful OS in Cupertino's history. Philip Schiller, iPhone maker's senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing, said, 'Just a year after the incredibly successful introduction of Lion, customers have downloaded Mountain Lion over three million times in just four days, making it our most successful release ever.'"

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  1. Re:Actual title should be by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Just a year after the incredibly successful introduction of Lion, customers have downloaded Mountain Lion over three million times in just four days, making it our most successful release ever."

    or?

    We were all very eager for a path forward that offered fixes and completion for Lion's half-realized and sometimes infuriating design / implementation choices. :-)

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  2. Ok... but why? by Kenja · · Score: 2

    Not seen a reason to upgrade myself. What feature is it that people are after?

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    1. Re:Ok... but why? by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Airplay that can mirror anything on you see on the Mac to an AppleTv was the killer feature for me. Also time machine backups can be set to rotate between different targets

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    2. Re:Ok... but why? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      For me, it was the AirPlay Mirroring, which lets me stream my desktop in 1080p with audio from my Mac to my Apple TV in a different room. I had in the past looked into getting a dedicated "wireless HDMI" device, but that tends to run into the hundreds very quickly.

      Other than that, they added iCloud, Notification Center, Reminders, and a lot of other niceties from iOS. For the new features, Gatekeeper is getting the most press probably, and while I find the trend that it might be indicative of to be a frightening one, I do think that it, taken alone, is a great feature that helps to keep novice users much more secure while keeping hassle to a minimum, and since it can be easily circumvented without needing to be a pro user, I don't see it as problematic. Also, unlike Lion, which changed a lot of things in ways that weren't necessarily for the better, I haven't seen anything yet in Mountain Lion that I've felt was a step back. Instead, I'm finding minor, but nice, touches here and there. It makes for a pleasant experience.

      So, basically, it feels faster, has a handful of new features, offers a more consistent experience across the Apple ecosystem, and clocks in at $20. I thought it was worth it, but as I'm sure anyone can see, I'm a bit of a fanboy.

    3. Re:Ok... but why? by dingen · · Score: 4, Informative

      The real killer feature is that ML is faster than Lion and runs better on systems with less than 4 GB of RAM.

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    4. Re:Ok... but why? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      Gatekeeper is getting the most press probably, and while I find the trend that it might be indicative of to be a frightening one, I do think that it, taken alone, is a great feature that helps to keep novice users much more secure while keeping hassle to a minimum, and since it can be easily circumvented without needing to be a pro user, I don't see it as problematic

      Well, with good reason, because people fear that the "Anywhere" optoin can be removed at any time.

      Which is very unlikely for many reasons.

      First, gatekeeper only applies to applications downloaded off the Internet which have been tagged as downloaded (extended attribute). "Local" applications don't have that (and the attribute can be removed). Interestingly, applications you compile don't have that attribute. This can be the makings for an OS that enforces open-source by ensuring applications are distributed open-source...

      Second, various policies make the Mac App Store unsuitable. E.g., a maximum price of $1000 for an app may be far too low for more specialized apps (E.g., AutoCAD 2012. The LE version is on the MAS, but the full package is not because it costs a lot more than the limit). Plus, apps have to be self-contained (no utilities, exnteions, or other stuff - so menubar things, drivers and the like have to be distributed elsewhere. Also, no demo apps.

      Finally - well, there's Adobe and Microsoft, who have shown very little interest in the MAS and are unlikely to do so for various reasons.

      The only reason to use MAS is access to iCloud, which also enforces sandboxing. Why regular apps can't is probably easy to see from a security perspective - if an app gets infected through some mechanism, that app can infect its own iCloud documents (reminicient of Word infections). If iCloud was available to all apps, it can result in basically a Mac that can never be cleaned of malware since a vulnerable app (without sandboxing) would read the infected iCloud document, get infected and infect the rest of the Mac (assuming the developer doesn't update the app and the user didn't download an updated version - with boxed software, this is common). With MAS sandboxing, the infection stays with the app alone. I suppose you can ask why not sandboxed apps - well, sandboxed apps can easily request every permission because the developer is lazy, and Apple can verify MAS apps for excessive permission usage.

      As for the enforcing open-source, well, like I said, Gatekeeper doesn't apply to non-internet sourced apps. So if you compile it yourself, gatekeeper should be out of your way. If you use open-source, skip the binary and build from source....

    5. Re:Ok... but why? by Huge_UID · · Score: 2

      It was the killer feature for my son as well. But then he found out Airplay mirroring isn't supported on his 2010 MacBook Pro. He's a little pissed at Apple. I figure he's getting a lesson in tech obsolescence. I'm happy - Airplay mirroring works great on my 2012 Air. :-)

    6. Re:Ok... but why? by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      "runs better on systems with less than 4G of RAM"

      Tempted to add my own remarks but this kind of speaks for itself.

      So which is it? Bash Apple for leaving usable hardware behind with forced obsolescence, or bash Apple for improving performance on older machines?

      You have to pick one troll direction and stick to it or you look wishy washy. I've seen you do better.

    7. Re:Ok... but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was the killer feature for my son as well. But then he found out Airplay mirroring isn't supported on his 2010 MacBook Pro. He's a little pissed at Apple. I figure he's getting a lesson in tech obsolescence. I'm happy - Airplay mirroring works great on my 2012 Air. :-)

      If he's techy at all, tell him why.

      You can't send HD resolution video across WiFi (or even Gigabit Ethernet) uncompressed, so AirPlay mirroring requires compression. AppleTV hardware only supports the H.264 codec, so the format has to be H.264. While it's very efficient in terms of compression ratio, it's also very difficult to implement in software -- as in, it probably takes almost all of a quadcore CPU's cycles to encode 1080p in realtime. Since that would be pointless (you want to use your computer normally while mirroring, not have its fans howling just to send its display to the TV), Apple requires hardware H.264 encoding to implement AirPlay mirroring.

      On Macs, that hardware is the QuickSync H.264 encoder / decoder block. QuickSync is a feature of Intel HD 3000 (or better) video, introduced in codename "Sandy Bridge" CPU models (aka "second generation Core i3/i5/i7"). Earlier Intel CPUs didn't have a hardware H.264 encoder. Sandy Bridge CPUs first shipped in 2011 Macs, so 2010 Macs cannot support AirPlay mirroring -- they do not have the required hardware.

    8. Re:Ok... but why? by teg · · Score: 2

      You can't send HD resolution video across WiFi (or even Gigabit Ethernet) uncompressed, so AirPlay mirroring requires compression. AppleTV hardware only supports the H.264 codec, so the format has to be H.264. While it's very efficient in terms of compression ratio, it's also very difficult to implement in software -- as in, it probably takes almost all of a quadcore CPU's cycles to encode 1080p in realtime. Since that would be pointless (you want to use your computer normally while mirroring, not have its fans howling just to send its display to the TV), Apple requires hardware H.264 encoding to implement AirPlay mirroring.

      This would be a decent reason if the source material was uncompressed HD video.

      However, it almost certainly is not. It's ridiculous (for multiple reasons) that if you have an existing H.264 encoded file, you need a Mac capable of realtime H.264 encoding to stream it to an AppleTV.

      If it is a H.264 encoded file, you can stream it directly from iTunes already. The new feature does full screen mirroring - perfect for streaming those services who are desktop only (Hulu and other flash players). There is a non-apple solution with some some technical trade offs if you have an older Mac or a Windows system.

  3. Depends on Why... by localman57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember that Windows 7 was Microsoft's most successful OS ever, in terms of adoption speed. Part of it had to do with the new features that 7 introduced, but part of it also had to do with how incredibly craptacular Vista was. Not saying that's neccesarily the case here; just saying you have to think a bit past the marketing hype.

    1. Re:Depends on Why... by Dynedain · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're absolutely correct. And I think the fact that it was a painless upgrade through their App store made it so quick for adoption.

      Compare to Microsoft's download options for Win7 where you had to find which online store you could actually purchase a download from, then download the disc image, find and download another app to turn that into something you could boot from, reboot the machine, and pray things would choke during the reformat. Not to mention the multiple price points and versions.

      The Mountain Lion upgrade on the other hand was:
      1) Open App store.
      2) Click install next the Mountain Lion.
      3) Pay $20 (or redeem an install code between steps 1 and 2)
      4) After download completes, launch the App from you Applications Folder
      5) Click ok, ok, agree, ok
      6) Wait for restart.

      Easiest OS upgrade I have ever seen. Even Windows service packs are more complicated.

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    2. Re:Depends on Why... by ninjacut · · Score: 2

      the data shows Windows 7 is most successful, 3 times all of OSX, iOS put together http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-microsofts-massive-windows-sales-compared-to-apple-2010-7

    3. Re:Depends on Why... by El_Oscuro · · Score: 3, Informative

      In Linux, the equivilent of the registery is stored in the users $HOME under hidden directories. I haven't got into that level with OS/X on my new Mac yet, but since it is Unix, it is probably done the same way.

      So when I got tired of messing with Unity on Ubunu, I deleted the O/S partition and installed Linux Mint. Imagine my suprise when after booting it for the first time, not only did I have my desktop settings and icons, but Firefox even remembered my last opened tabs!

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    4. Re:Depends on Why... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know that reading is hard, but Phil Schiller said "Just a year after the incredibly successful introduction of Lion, customers have downloaded Mountain Lion over three million times in just four days, making it our most successful release ever."

      No one made a direct comparison between Mountain Lion's sales and Windows 7's sales, until you just did right before disproving it. This is what we call a classic straw man argument.

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  4. Re:Actual title should be by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Haterade Addicts get Another Opportunity to Bitch About Apple!

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  5. Re:Huge initial release does not mean sucess by tsa · · Score: 3, Funny

    All Apple users are fanboys/girls. You just become one after having used such marvellously perfect hardware and software for a while. Face it: there is nothing better!

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  6. Re:Actual title should be by localman57 · · Score: 3, Funny

    We were all very eager for a path forward that offered fixes and completion for Lion's half-realized and sometimes infuriating design / implementation choices. :-)

    Ah, yes. Going forward, I propose that we call this the "Windows Vista Hangover effect."

  7. Why not? by Missing.Matter · · Score: 5, Informative

    Barring comparability and performance regressions, at $20 why not upgrade? From my usage, Mountain Lion doesn't offer any real drastic changes, just some polish and some optional features, some of which are welcome, some which I'll probably never use. I haven't run into any showstopper bugs, and it's generally just a run-of-the mill upgrade with some nice features. Apple always claims they've added hundreds of new features, but their threshold for a "feature" seems to be lower and lower with each release, with even the lowliest check box being counted as a "feature" right next to full applications like iMessage or Reminders or Gatekeeper. When you separate the features by magnitude, there are only really a handful that stand out. I know every release of OSX is a "point" release, but Mountain Lion really captures the meaning behind the phrase.

  8. Re:Actual title should be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

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  9. Re:All of them by vux984 · · Score: 2

    Yes, and everyone who bought mac in the last few months had it ship with lion, but was entitled to upgrade and download mountain lion for FREE.

  10. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    The average Sales Man often gets the title of VP of sales. Because they need to work with the other companies higher ups, having a VP in their title makes them seem important, not just a normal sales guy.

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  11. Re:Actual title should be by Torp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know about the 2999999 other sheep, but i will be upgrading my laptop from snow leopard to mountain lion indeed. I liked some features in Lion, but they sounded like they needed improvement. Mountain Lion may be it.
    Also, it's cheap.

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  12. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where I work people can enter their own job titles on the internal 'phone book' on the intranet.

    As you can imagine everyone is senior this, senior that etc ... except for one of the sysadmins in India who is the 'Most Senior Systems Administrator'

  13. Re:Sounds impressive, but how many are paid.. by Dynedain · · Score: 2

    Hard to claim?

    Click on link on Apple homepage. Fill in contact info and serial number (Apple Menu->About This Mac.... copy/paste). Click submit.

    A day or two later, get an email with a redemption code for the App store.

    Input redemption code, click install.

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  14. Re:Huge initial release does not mean sucess by Gaygirlie · · Score: 2

    Actually, Waterworld-reference works exceedingly well for bringing about his point. Waterworld a lot of money in the beginning, but eventually failed to satisfy expectations.

  15. Re:But the big question... by Missing.Matter · · Score: 2

    I thought we all agreed that a desktop OS was a terrible idea on a tablet. OSX doesn't even have the touch amenities that Windows 7 does.

  16. Re:Actual title should be by DJRumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't agree more. /. is becoming a joke as a 'news for nerds' site. They turn into the trollfest we see above. Every single post above is flamebait.

    The fact that OS X broke out of the marginal OS arena is good news for any non-windows platform, regardless of who makes it. It's also of interest to the enterprise crowd looking for alternatives to Windows 8, and not only due to the fact that this happens to be OS X but also because they may look at other alternatives if Windows grip on the computer market isn't rock solid.

  17. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by dingen · · Score: 4, Informative

    He answers only to the CEO, as do all senior VP's. There are just nine of these guys and they're each responsible for a fundamental aspect of Apple's operation.

    I agree most corporate titles are complete bullshit, and I'm sure there are also lots of these folks running around at Apple Inc. But imho Apple's Senior VPs aren't really part of that nonsense as their titles actually show their responsibility and function pretty well.

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  18. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wish we had that. I'd be High Potentate And Head Muckety Muck.

    No, wait... SENIOR High Potentate And Head Muckety Muck.

  19. Re:Actual title should be by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FileVault2 is worthwhile.

    So is multi-destination Time Machine.

    There's a bunch of better integrations to iCloud - which are interesting - and make Time Machine less valuable, at the same time. ;-)

    The other cloud/SaaS plugin services are no use to me, as I don't Twit, etc.

    I like airplay mirroring. It makes my 1080p TV a big display via Apple TV - without cabling.

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  20. Re:Actual title should be by adlib24 · · Score: 2

    Mod up parent. The main reason I moved to Lion was to FINALLY be able to resize windows by selecting anywhere on the frames. This was an obvious and long overdue feature, but they changed many things that didn't need changing. I can think of no reasons to stay on Lion as the grass certainly looks greener on the Mountain, but maybe that's just because my boots are covered in mud.

  21. Re:Sounds impressive, but how many are paid.. by Desler · · Score: 2

    Yes on the day of release most people either couldn't get a code or Apple was sending out duplicate codes that other people had already redeemed.

  22. Other ways than torrents to save bandwidth by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    would have saved them quite a bit of bandwidth

    So does Akamai, which is what Apple uses.

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  23. Re:Actual title should be by FreshlyShornBalls · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Indeed. It boggles the mind as to why they finally fixed that feature, but still have not enabled simple file operations (copy / paste / rename / etc.) in the File Open and File Save dialogs. I can't tell you how pissed I get when I have to stop what I'm doing, open a Finder window and then navigate all over again to a location just to rename a folder, for example.

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  24. 2007 Mac Mini couldn't be upgraded by mpetch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yesterday I went to the App Store, only to learn that my 2007 Mac Mini (Purchased in 2008) didn't have the hardware requirements to run OS/X Mountain Lion. I have a 64bit CPU, 2GB ram, but only have 32bit EFI. Apparently the video in this unit isn't supported. I was a bit surprised that 5 year old equipment just isn't worth it to Apple to support. If someone asks why I needed to upgrade - it was required to build and test some open source projects I work on.

    1. Re:2007 Mac Mini couldn't be upgraded by Dynedain · · Score: 2

      So the entry-point machine from 5 years ago doesn't run the latest and greatest? Big surprise.
      My 2007 Macbook Pro will run Mountain Lion just fine.

      I challenge you to find a $600 PC from 2004 that would run Windows7 when it launched in 2009. You can even ignore 64bit Win7 and just focus on Win7 32bit Home Basic if you want. (As you yourself said, Mountain Lion is exclusively 64bit).

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    2. Re:2007 Mac Mini couldn't be upgraded by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      Never? Windows 8 will run on a 10yr old computer. It might not run the best... but it'll run. Linux will run on just about anything as long as you get the correct drivers for it. Maybe you'll need to use an older GUI... or none at all... but it'll run.

      Apple is the poster child for locked in environments, less user choice, aggressive tactics to get users to upgrade as often and as frequently as possible... etc...

      Because Apple profits off of both the OS and the hardware, they have a very strong incentive to make new OS's require new hardware... as well has New hardware that requires new OSs.

    3. Re:2007 Mac Mini couldn't be upgraded by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have a Sempron 2600+ (64-bit too!) machine I assembled back in 2004. It runs Windows 7 just fine.

    4. Re:2007 Mac Mini couldn't be upgraded by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why did she not simply re-install Snow Leopard?

      There's no reason she had to upgrade any of that...

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    5. Re:2007 Mac Mini couldn't be upgraded by Telvin_3d · · Score: 2

      Never? Windows 8 will run on a 10yr old computer.

      Only (some) 10 year old computers that have since had upgrades. The oldest Intel processors that W8 will support had just come out and the earliest AMD processors were 2003. And it would be a damn rare thing to find a 2002 graphics card that meets W8 support requirements.

      So, yes, if you bought the most expensive computer possible a decade ago and continued to upgrade its RAM and Video Card it would now run W8 at a minimal level.

      If you bought anything but the very cheapest models OSX 10.8 is good back to 2007. Which considering that Apple only started switching to Intel in 2006 is pretty good.

  25. Re:Actual title should be by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why Apple? This has very little to do with Apple actually. This is more about a lame tech press that treats every Apple press release like something that's going to win them a Pulizter.

    "Apple sees record downloads after it pushes users to downloads"

    That's not news, that's the kind of math that PolySci professors think you don't need to learn.

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  26. Re:Can't justify the price of hardware to run it by repetty · · Score: 2

    Good on you, Apple and all those who live in glass and stainless steel houses who can afford to keep buying the beautiful and sleek Apple hardware on which to run Mountain Lion....

    Hmmm. I'm reading your gibberish on a used $400 iMac that can certainly run Mountain Lion.

  27. Re:Actual title should be by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...just poking MS with a stick to amuse yourself?

    It's the simple things that make you smile.

  28. Re:All of them by SomePgmr · · Score: 2

    Well and, it's $20 for those three machines, right? I'll say this for Apple... the OS upgrades are reasonably priced, given the margins they get elsewhere.

  29. Re:But the big question... by Pieroxy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You must be joking... Steve Jobs spent more than half a decade to design an OS from the ground up (UI wise) to make it useable on a tablet, and you think, citing Jobs, it would be a good idea to bring Jobs's other OS to a tablet?

    I honestly cannot think of anything more ridiculous. That's basically what Microsoft tried before the iPad which failed so miserably that everyone forgot tablets existed before the iPad.

    You're looking for a job? Try applying to the CEO position of Miscrosoft. You seem to be as smart as he is.

  30. Re:Actual title should be by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

    That's an awesome turn of phrase, I'm surprised Apple did not trademark it.

  31. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by Ed_1024 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "There are just nine of these guys"

    Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne...

    Ooooerrrr! Jony Ive must have made them out of Aluminium, maybe Titanium for the Tim Cook's One!

  32. Re:Actual title should be by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hear there's actually a few competing products for your operating system money that do just that. In fact, it's safe to say that limited power user oriented features have been one of the chief complaints with apple operating systems for years.

  33. Re:icrap by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    Who cares about Apple OS's?

    139 comments and counting.

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  34. Re:Actual title should be by jbolden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have tried OSX ages ago, if only Apple let me install it on hardware I already owned instead of purchasing new hardware which is spec'd damn near the same as what I've already got.

    I would have tried Black Berry OS 10 if only RIM would let me use it on iPhone. Huh?
    Apple is not Microsoft, they do not sell operating systems. If you are unwilling to buy an Apple then why would they care if you try OSX?

  35. Re:All of them by jbolden · · Score: 4, Informative

    You don't need a tool. If you open up the package that comes with mountain lion there is a file which is mountable / burnable as a stand alone installer. Very typical of Apple: hard enough to stop people who don't know what they are doing from shooting themselves in the foot, easy enough that if you do know what you are doing you can make your install media.

  36. Re:Sounds impressive, but how many are paid.. by raydobbs · · Score: 2

    As with some online rebate redemptions - the system will pick random submissions for additional verification in order to verify that the people applying for the rebate are those intended to get said rebate. Otherwise, they would have to hire dozens of temps to go through millions of submissions of physical articles they'd have to track and ultimately dispose of to handle the rebate. 24-72 hours for the former method, 6-8 weeks (if your lucky) for the other.

  37. Re:Actual title should be by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of the house-keeping of multiple destination was left to the user. If you want round-robin or first available, etc.? You'd make this manually. But HEY! Time Machine is automatic, right? There is a plethora of AppleScript and even Cocoa Apps to manage this. These are pretty much obsoleted.

    I'll defer to the Ars Technica description:

    Time Machine can now back up to multiple volumes. When more than one volume is selected, Time Machine will do a full backup to each selected volume, taking turns each time it runs.

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  38. Re:Actual title should be by jbolden · · Score: 2

    I don't know if it does limit their OS sales. Lots of people do sell operating systems only. And OpenStep which was essentially an earlier version of OS X was available. People didn't buy OpenStep. Mac OS X Server 1.0 was the first version of OSX available only for Apple hardware and sales have been much much better since they stopped selling OSes.

  39. Re:Apple by Phrogman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was *so* impressed with Apple years ago. My wife had an older OS/X laptop and had just bought a new one. The old one was running when she booted up the new one and during the setup process (all of about 3 minutes to be on the web), it popped up a dialog stating it noticed another laptop was running nearby and would we like to transfer the user settings and data from that machine to this one? Click yes and it was done in no time.
    After years of fucking around with Windows systems, it was a joy to see something like that done right. Actually, thats the way I think of OS/X mostly - it works the way I want it to most of the time, and the rest of the time I pay it no attention because its not malfunctioning. I readily admit MS has made great leaps and bounds between Win7 and WinXP, but its still not as polished.

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  40. Re:.. in other news ... by ktappe · · Score: 2

    .. in other news, Apple's new bot downloading cluster works perfectly. 2.8 million test downloads in 4 days.

    Cute.

    Whether it was being downloaded by bots or humans, this story was interesting to me from a distributed payload distribution angle. At 4.1Gb a copy, that many Mountain Lions comes out to over 12 petabytes transferred in under four days. That had potential to clog up Ted Stevens' series of tubes, but I've not heard of any problems.

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  41. Re:Actual title should be by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

    Before I bought my iMac I did look at Windows machines, and a similarly specced Dell XPS with an IPS 2048x1536 screen would've cost a whopping 25GBP less, would have had a much more annoying OS on it and would not have been so easy to carry up and down stairs. So I wasted the extra 25GBP on an iMac. You only find a similar specced machine for less if you have a shit screen. I quite fancied not having a shit screen for a change.

  42. Re:Huge initial release does not mean sucess by jbolden · · Score: 2

    http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0&qpcustomb=*1

    Take a simple example: OSX share June 2012.

    10.4 3%
    10.5 (Oct 2007) 12%
    10.6 (Aug 2009) 38%
    10.7 (July 2011) 47%

    Conversely on Windows
    XP 47%
    Vista (Jan 2007) 7%
    Windows 7 (July 2009) 45%

    In other words almost 1/2 of all Mac users had upgraded their OS within the last 11 mo. 10.6 and Windows 7 are about the same age 85% of Mac users were that far updates as contrasted with 45% of windows users. Almost 1/2 of Windows users use an OS older than 5 years as contrasted with 3% of mac users.

    Because Macs are so much more expensive than PCs their users historically did not upgrade as often.

    Not true. Mac users upgrade their hardware more often. They may brag about being able to use their old computers but in practice they don't.

  43. Re:Actual title should be by marcello_dl · · Score: 2

    > you are aware -why- there was such a gap between xp and vista, right?

    You should measure gaps between final releases, not a release and a beta.

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  44. Re:Actual title should be by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 2

    Truly Powerful Users have the Terminal, BASH and Apple scripting, C/C++ and Java compilers, etc etc. I often rename files in my ever-open iTerm, since it is often much faster than using a GUI - the real beauty of a 17" MacBook Pro is the resolution (and multi-monitors) allow you to have so many xterms open at once :)

    The Mac is at least as good as Linux for almost all of this (I say this after starting to use Linux a little in 1992 onward and heavily in 1996 to present). Hence, our office of Java developers have mostly migrated from Ubuntu (after the loss of focus on workstation practicalities to chase tablet dreams) to Mac.

    Apart from removing the OpenGL pbuffer (which some libraries require) Mountain Lion has been a noticeable improvement over Lion for the guys at our development office.

  45. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    why does the title need to mention "worldwide"?

    Many manufacturers sell items to foreign markets, but only wholesale, and leave the marketing to the retailers or importers, in which case a "Marketing" guy is actually going to have a very different job description than a "worldwide marketing" guy.

    Also Phil probably has the title in his contract.

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  46. Re:senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing by KhabaLox · · Score: 3, Funny

    VP of middle eastern marketing,

    Read this as "VP of middle earth marketing."

    One veep to rule them all,
    One veep to find them,
    One veep to sell them all and with an iPad blind them,

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  47. Re:.. in other news ... by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

    Well, if you do the math....

    4 days = 345600 seconds
    4,100 MB * 4 million = 16,400,000,000 MB
    Converting to Mb for bandwidth purposes = 131,200,000,000 Mb
    That would average to 379,629 Mb/s, or 370Gb/s

    Well, that is still impressive. I'm sure they were serving it off of tens of thousands of machines, spread across many CDN nodes, which would have lowered the impact on the Internet at large.

    I just wouldn't want to see their data services bill. :) I'm sure a few someones got filthy rich off of that.

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