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West Nile Virus Outbreak Puts Dallas In State of Emergency
Penurious Penguin writes with news from the BBC that the city of Dallas "is experiencing a widespread outbreak of mosquito-borne West Nile Virus that has caused and appears likely to continue to cause widespread and severe illness and loss of life," and writes that the city "has declared a state of emergency. West Nile virus can be asymptomatic or produce multiple symptoms, but can also lead to fevers, and the potentially fatal meningitis or encephalitis. Birds are the most common carriers and mosquitoes are the vector for human infection."
Buy DEET, 50-90% concentration, apply liberally. The higher concentration stuff is rather strong, but you can spray it on your clothes (ie. Socks, shoes, sleeves).
I guess all the other would-be first posters have died of West Nile.
Rising temperatures, increase drought, more importantly, increased rain and flooding, will all ensure the spread mosquito vectors. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the newly mutated strains of Malaria to make a resurgence. Par the course, all we can do is adapt to this new life.
West Nile can't be stopped by hordes of rednecks with CCWs. (kidding on the square)
But West Nile can stop the hordes of rednecks :-)
It is in area news, but it hasn't hit the national airwaves yet. However, the local news doesn't describe it as a "state of emergency" like the BBC does. Maybe though they just don't want to get people overly scared. What is happening is pretty much the same as what happened in New York a couple years ago.
Big apple, new Yorik, undig it, something's unrotting in Edenmark.
Is is that you didn't look or just aren't willing to?
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I live in Dallas. People are not dying in the streets. We are not living out Monty Python's "Bring Out Your Dead" sketch.
The "emergency" was declared primarily so we could gain access to 5 pesticide-spraying planes from the Texas Department of Emergency Management.
Nylon is fine, but it will destroy other stuff. Permethrin should only be sprayed on clothes, but it does a good job too, actually kills the things.
I think we should bring back DDT worldwide, they have lost some of their developed immunities by now. Once they start developing immunities we can start with the organochlorides, then the organophosphates, then the pyrethrins, and by then they should be vulnerable to DDT again. Sure, we won't have any birds or flowering plants, but we can get by on wind pollinated crops. Probably need to devote some extra money to cancer research too.
refactor the law, its bloated, confusing and unmaintainable.
Uh, no we're not. The liberals you speak of are mostly California refugees that are fleeing the product of the choices they've made, laws and regulations they've mandated and politicians they've voted in. They're broke and it's their fault, but they'll never understand nor admit that it's the result of the choices they've made. Now they're spreading and they're going to fuck the rest of us the way they've fucked themselves.
Here in Maine, the Mosquito's will drain your blood long before the West Nile Virus can do any damage. It's been an unusually humid, and wet summer.
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Won't someone think about the poor endangered malaria mosquito? This majestic creature used to roam the plains in the billions, but thanks to eradication efforts and habitat encroachments in now roams the plains in slightly fewer billions! You know what the problem is? It's fair weather environmentalists! Oh sure, it's easy to get behind an endangered animal when it's cute and fuzzy! But they're nowhere to be found when it has six legs, sucks human blood and helps spread a deadly disease! I suppose if another spraying program is enacted, they won't be down at city hall protesting! Won't someone think of the mosquitoes?!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
I was visiting family there last couple of weeks and they are freeked out about. Its all over there news.
We get here in orlando in the summer all the time so we are use to it.
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What crack have the Dallas County Commissioners been smoking that John Whiley Price has been dealing around the County Courthouse? We've had West Nile outbreaks every year since 2002ish (as I recall) and the city used ground spray trucks previously. We've had approximateley 100 people every year contract the issue and about 20 die from it. I agree with the above comment that the emergency is manufactured, but I suspect it's so that the county can get access to cheaper to purchase pesticides that have a higher chance of side effects.
Those that get infected are already on the watch list for diseases (Young, Old, Immune system compromised). It's quite simple how to avoid it
1. Don't go outside at dawn/dusk
2. Drain standing water pools
3. Wear a decent bug spray.
4. Wear clothing over most parts of your body if you must go outside for extended periods of time
Needless to say that the night when they overfly my neighborhood I'm going to shut all my windows/doors and not think about what's happening outside.
Actually, the reason California has its debt load is because of following a Conservative anti-tax policy. That, and their electricity deregulation which gave boatloads of money to companies like Enron all in the name of a free market.
You'll never understand nor admit that it's the right-wing policies that harmed California, nor that the fix is relatively simple.
BTW, if California is broke, then so is Texas. They both have huge debt loads.
This is a bunch of fearmongering BS. There were dire warnings on national news this morning, too.
So what is the extent of the "widespread outbreak" that is causing all the disease, mayhem and death that "appears likely to continue to cause widespread and severe illness and loss of life"?
Almost 700 cases have been reported across the country
WOW! Almost 700 cases across the country! Just this year! They don't actually say how many in Texas, or Dallas. Does that mean 700 deaths? No. 700 serious illnesses? No. 700 people, though, right? No.
There have been cases of infection reported in people, birds or mosquitoes
Ah. This is cause for a panic and a state of emergency? What for?
The move clears the way for aerial spraying to kill infected mosquitoes that transmit the disease.
Ah - there we go. Hmmm. "Don't worry about the stuff being sprayed out of those planes, citizen. It's for your protection!"
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
Severe West Nile is treated with supportive care. It makes a tremendous difference to survival rates and, since you're hospitalized, potentially for quite a while, it's probably fairly expensive in the US.
I live in an area that has had West Nile since 2002. We are constantly finding dead crows. Even though we have been severely inflicted and were one of the first in Canada to have it, we still only have a handful of cases and only two of those were fatal. There was one old man that died in 2002 and then a second, old lady that died in 2011. That's it for the whole region. About 20% of the people exposed to West Nile virus develop "West Nile fever". West Nile fever's symptoms include headache, body aches and a fever. Not enough to send you to the doctor though, as it only lasts a few days. Also, the end result is you wind up producing antibodies that keep you from getting it again, for the rest of your life. The majority of people exposed to the virus, show no symptoms whatsoever. Of the folks who are exposed, less than 1% suffer from any sort of problems, beyond flu symptoms. West Nile can be fatal in very rare cases but then so can driving a car. It's not the monster killer the press is making it out to be. Don't be fooled.
There broke because conservatives change taxes without changing services. It's their overall approach is to divorce the idea of taxes from services, cut taxes and then watch everything fail.
It's nice to know you live up to the Texas reputation of inbred morons.
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That post was not insightful. deserves -1 ignorant.
So you are saying we shouldn't worry about it until thousands die?
How about you let the smart people handles and you just worry about getting your ticket to the 'B' ark.
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Get out of the air conditioned cave, during the day, and emptying any standing water of more than 1/4 depth *anywhere* you find it.
Dengay is coming to the US as well. But ignorant dipshit want to stop an effective way of limiting.
http://www.pusware.com/quackcast/quackcast97.mp3
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Come to the Old East in the coming weeks, whargoul. I'd guess 4 out of 5 yards with signs in them will be repping D, going by previous elections.
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It's not that bad. the disease is mostly affecting people with weakened immune systems, the really young and the really old. This is not too different than the flu in that regard, except it's much more difficult to control the spread of it and it has some really nasty side effects if it goes untreated.
That said, I think treating it like a dire emergency is not the right way to go. I really don't want me or my children breathing in any chemicals unnecessarily. If any of us get sick from the virus, we'll go to our doctors that we trust or a emergency room. With all the pollution we already have on top of allergens, I really don't want to know what adding those chemicals to the mix will do, but there's a chance that it may be even less treatable than the disease.
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It's no state of emergency here, but the city is set to start aerial spraying.
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Contrary to car accidents or lightning strikes, the West Nile virus is contagious and its spread may accelerate.
I don't want to hear from the Dallas Cowboys that this years season was a wash due to the West Nile Virus......Everyone knows Romo isn't a true quarterback. Anyone who parties with Mr. Belding from Saved By The Bell is not a top notch QB.
There are hundreds of spray planes here in Texas, privately owned, all sitting idle and their owners/pilots are dying for work right now due to the nationwide drought that has killed off most of the farm crops this year and eliminated this season's work for the pilots. One of my best friends owns and flies an Air Tractor and the past two years he's only gotten about half the spraying contracts he normally gets so he's desperate for work so he doesn't have to sell the plane. He's looking into the mosquito spraying contracts, but the state is making it so difficult to get the extra licenses needed for spraying mosquitoes that it seems like they're deliberately protecting someone's monopoly or something.
There must be a lot of Californians there. That explains all the In-N-Out Burgers I saw when I was there this summer.
"the reason California has its debt load is because of following a Conservative anti-tax policy"
Good grief! The stupidity of the things I read on this site continues to astound me. How can you possibly say these things with a straight face?
Because they're true. I'm familiar with Proposition 13 even if you aren't. I noticed what really happened in California after its power deregulation and who profited from it. See I know it's the Conservative Mantra that liberals, especially those California liberals, are evil, and do things wrong, but you never check the facts.
You just go with what you think you know. Because it must be true.
ALL the liberal run cities and states are going broke one after the other with California and New York at the top of the list. Anti-tax? Are you high? California has already had what three cities declare bankruptcy and still the liberals tax and spend like there is a money tree growing on every street corner.
Cities, huh?
And what have those cities been doing? Have they been keeping their tax policies sound, or have they been following right-wing ideas of keeping taxes low, relying on growth, and hoping it didn't blow up in their face?
Do look it up.
Besides, chances are some of the bankruptcies are the result of financial improprieties, much like say Birmingham in Alabama or even Orange County back in the 90s.
It's hard, I know, to blame the bankers, for screwing a government entity over, but they can and do. And then the conservatives give them medals and cheer them for being the REAL producers.
http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/california
"California's Top Individual Income Tax Rate Is Second Highest in the Nation
With seven brackets and a top rate of 10.3 percent for those earning over $1,000,000, California's individual income tax has the second highest rate and one of the most highly progressive structures in the nation. In 2010, California's state-level individual income tax collections were $1,229 per person, which ranked 5th highest nationally. Since most small businesses are S Corporations, partnerships, or sole proprietorships, they pay their business taxes at the rates for individuals. That makes California's taxes on small businesses some of the most burdensome in the nation."
C'mon, you can't possibly be *this* stupid are you?
C'mon, you can't possibly be stupid enough to think that analyzing things in a vacuum is valid. You're just throwing out statistics and hoping they'll lead things how you want.
No wait, you're listening to TaxFoundation.org, a group with its own slant on things. Oh sure, they insist they are non-partisan, but others disagree. Maybe you don't realize that California's tax burden includes massive payments to the federal coffers that they don't get back. You don't bother to check how much revenue California actually gets from its taxes, or how it's allocated. You don't see that California's corporate tax revenues have dropped as a result of changes in tax policy, not business operations. You don't see the price of tax cuts, you just think that if only they cut them, then magically revenues would go up without consequence.
Compare California's net tax burden today, to what it was before Proposition 13. Make sure you control for inflation.
You'll see a different picture than the one the Tax Foundation wants to present.
Yet...
Uhh... look at Arizona too, so broke they sold their capital building and they are about as conservative as you get. The whole argument is just stupid, the most prosperous states in the union were always left leaning. Oil put Texas and Alaska in a status of their own. Of course that's still no reason to base a decision. Instead you have to look at the retarded methods used to deal with a budget issue. Until the Bush tax cuts, revenue was looking pretty good, we were on track to be debt free. Now you see people arguing to continue tax cuts and cut spending which millions are relying on during an economic down turn.
Of course the conservative agenda says personal responsibility and blah blah, really not a bad ideal for an individual to live by but insane to expect everybody to follow. So casting all those people with medical bills to the wolves and depressing already low-income people is supposed to lead to what? More jobs? Why would a corporation hire more people if their wasn't demand for more product? That's why I can't stand hearing about tax rates and jobs in the same sentence. There is a level of taxation that is burdensome but we're no where even close to it.
Last I checked too, California was still the best place to get venture capital, I wonder why?
So a few people are getting a mild illness from mosquitoes. Let's spray the entire city with carcinogenic pesticides! See? Now EVERYONE is affected by West Nile!
It's a pretty safe bet that no chemical will ever eliminate the mosquito. As long as there is water on which to lay eggs, and animals with blood for them to eat, there will be mosquitoes. Spraying for them, even if the poisons weren't doing more damage, is at very best an exercise in ignorance-fueled futility.
Oh, that DDT was great stuff, it killed the little buggers, right? Except it destroyed the amphibians and bats that ate the mosquito, too. So the first few years when the spraying stops, there's nothing to keep the mosquito in check. Same thing goes for every insect pest. The chemical "answer" kills the predators too, but the pests bounce back faster.
I'm not a rabid environmentalist. It's a shame that a few old folks with weak immune systems die from West Nile. But that is not a good reason to wage chemical warfare on the public.
That I'm right, and you don't like it, doesn't mean I'm a troll.
... It would take a whole lot of bats to make any appreciable dent in the mosquito population.
On the plus side, though, then we'd have a whole lot of bats!
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Don't we have a sustained unemployment problem nationwide? ...check! ...check!
Wouldn't it be a burden on taxpayers to have to provide supportive care to people who are just making the unemployment figures high?
Is there a way we can make this West Nile Virus a national epidemic, and maybe increase it's potency? (I kid, I kid!)
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Let's ignore the presence of Turtle Creek and other somewhat stagnant bodies of water in the vicinity, or the age of that population compared to the city as a whole. All it takes is a collection of infected vectors in a natural, or semi-natural, body of water, and all that takes is a collection of infected carriers in the trees. Lots of trees in the park cities. Lots of birds. Lots of ponds and creeks. Lots of old people. Maybe Jerry Jones...
So you are saying we shouldn't worry about it until thousands die?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Let the CDC worry about it. Worrying and/or panicking over some disease you have almost no chance of contracting is just pointless.
How about you let the smart people handles [sic] and you just worry about getting your ticket to the 'B' ark.
Did you just make that up, or is that an expression? Either way, it's not very clever.
Fine though, you worry about West Nile. Maybe doing so will raise your blood pressure and cause you to have a heart attack, killing you. Which is certainly much more likely than you contracting and dying from West Nile.
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DDT it is good for you and it is good for me!
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I've seen this so many times it amazes me. Think you have a lot of mosquitoes on your property? I bet you have a lot of stagnant water pools. No, it isn't your neighbors pond because if they have fish, they're eating the pupa. Most likely, it is that bird bath or that wheelbarrow or that childrens see-saw with the foot wells that collect rain water or, as I see almost all the time, that tarp you have over your firewood that has ever so small puddles of water (like half a cup). Those little wiggling specs of dirt? You better believe they're flying tonight!
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