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Apple Wins Again — ITC Rules They Didn't Violate Samsung Patents
An anonymous reader writes "A preliminary ruling from the International Trade Commission found that Apple did not violate four of Samsung's patents in the design of the iPhone. 'The patents in the complaint are related to 3G wireless technology, the format of data packets for high-speed transmission, and integrating functions like web surfing with mobile phone functions.' The complaint was filed by Samsung in 2011, and a final confirmation is due next January. Apple has similar claims against Samsung awaiting ITC judgment; the preliminary ruling is expected in mid-October."
Wow, just wow. This level of being deluded is on level with someone who is indoctrinated by a religion.
I guess I won't even bother trying to put holes in your arguments because they kind of speak for themselves.
Check his post history. Single comment from a first time poster. A flame baiting troll if ever there was one
Watch those corners
More like: DevIA actually doesn't like Apple, but knows how to troll and bring out the breathless Slashdot nerd rage posts.
Don't forget that God is just a representation of human weakness/suffering.
The sort of character which would otherwise go to Church every Sunday can manifest itself in other ways.
HATE! HATE! HATE!
Software patents are evil!!!
But HATE! HATE! HATE!
Apple is teh evil!
What's a confused Slashdotter to think?
Ditto......Samsung and others are just trying to be patent trolls to defend themselves from copying. They need to go do their own R&D and come out with original products and keep innovation alive instead of copying Apple and playing follow the leader or building off of what they have set in place.
I'd be curious to know the details regarding this technology because it seems to me like it covers very specific functionality. I mean, how does Apple win here but Samsung loses on something as ambiguous as design. It gets me wondering if judges and juries aren't approaching these cases with the preconceived notion that Apple is an "innovator" and couldn't possibly have used someone else's technology. It seems most people's sense of innovation is dictated by how nice industrial design looks and feels.
If i ever get in trouble, I want Apple's lawyers defending me. They can't seem to do wrong.
It is cowardly to set up an account just to troll. A good troll does not fear alternating between insight and subtle nonsense using the same account.
Domestic company wins.
If this were an American company suing an American company, the ruling would be done around 2020. Then the damages would be minimized when a new government is sworn in.
Apple Wins Again
Nobody wins. We all lose.
It's harder with the MS posts, as there are three likely possibilites. There is the possibility of paid shill, troll, or in some circumstances, true fanboy. With Apple posts, I think the rate of paid shill is extremely low, if at all, but you could never tell the difference between paid shill and fanboy anyway. Same sort of problem with trolls ... some people actually believe the same statements a troll would make. It's getting hard to tell who's who around here.
Funny how Slashdot as a whole can miss sarcasm even if it slaps them in the face, hard.
-- Cheers!
*in his best prof farnsworth voice* Samsung and Apple finally settled their patent war in combat slaying each other. Now i've invented a new phone and we have to deliver the packets using this new ray I made that will transform the ship into radio waves.
Woosh! that was supposed to be (and is) funny :)
Never antropomorphize computers, they do not like that
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I don't think apple makes the 3G chips in their phones. I think they buy them from someone else.
It's too close to what actual rabid fans spout to be funny. You can also freely swap the company names and get to the other end of spectrum.
In other words, it's not outrageous enough to be clearly sarcastic - not that I believe that being sarcastic was the reason to get a new account and first minute first post here.
Apple does not make their 3G chips, they buy them companies like Infineon. And of course companies like Infineon would have licensed the patent from Samsung.
But imagine if Apple had lost, then samsung could licenses the same patent to chipset manufactures and from every company that uses those chipsets.
With 600B+ market cap, whole market moves every time Apple moves. And with 600B+ market cap everyone expects Apple to grow even bigger. In a world driven by money (and only money) the only possible outcome will be Apple winning on all fronts, regardless of how much harm will it cause to everyone else (including consumers). Looking forward I expect judges mysteriously ruling in favor of Apple dubious patents and punishing competition every time regardless of their arguments. And even if tables turn in this debacle and Apple gets burned for the first time, I see Congress quickly passing a law "fixing it" - basically setting competition in an uphill battle against Apple or even outright graning monopoly on consumer electronics to Apple in some way.
Welcome to crony capitalism.
With 0.3-0.6% of GDP directly attributed to Apple and its basically unlimited funds for lobbying (bribing) politicians, your lovely (US) government cannot afford letting them lose their current market cap - it would harm whole market and trigger an avalanche of failing pension funds (lots of them also heavily invested into Apple itself) which in turn would bite government crooks in their lazy asses. Wall Street crooks also cannot afford Apple bubble popping exactly for the same reasons. Given that the biggest thread to Apple's profit is margin compression caused by maturing smartphone/tablet technology, I bet that both government and wall street will do everything they can to keep competition out of this space, heavily influencing courts, panels and commisions dealing with Apple's cases.
Like Dr. Bob!
I miss him so....
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
It's getting hard to tell who's who around here.
Hi,nice to meet you. I'm neither a shill nor a fanboy. I'm an ass - I don't expect you'll have any difficulty trouble telling me apart from the others. ;)
In the US court, it was decided that the US company Apple did not violate any of Korean company Samsung's patents. In the Korean court, it was decided that the Korean company Samsung did not violate any of US company Apple's patents.
I wonder if someone had the idea to patent the three dots in menu items to inform users that another selection window will open instead of an action being performed. I mean, if "rubber banding" and "rounded corners" are all patentable, why not other obvious things?
I also don't know how to check for typos...
It's too close to what in my whiny Slashdot nerd imagination rabid fans spout to be funny.
FTFY
Actually I tend to think many of these trolls are in fact Android fanboi's hoping to get exactly the response that the second poster did, or possibly just a true troll hoping to stir up a flame war.
Check his post history. Single comment from a first time poster. A flame baiting troll if ever there was one
Poe's Law, man. This is Apple we're talking about, after all. Steve's acolytes aren't known for being sensible or subtle in the first place...
Everyone should note that this is not about LTE patents. We're still waiting for that smackdown to begin. Perhaps it should be like football... watch the lawsuit unfold... bring your own beer and popcorn or whatever! =)
Nice to meet you Type44Q. I'm a Fast Turtle and I never check for typo's. See I'm always tryen to get a frst prose
Mod me up/Mod me down: I wont frown as I've no crown
I wonder how much it cost Apple to bribe the ITC?
To say the I dislike Apple and Apple products would be a massive understatement!
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
Don't forget they stole Java from oracle. This is no surprise given the fact the founders are communists one of which coming from the heart of the USSR. They're savages that just don't know how to live in an respectable society.
Hmm. If they keep this up we're going to have to revise that old joke about IBM's hoard of lawyers.
Apple should be sued by Gene Roddenberry's estate for the look and feel of the ipad being ripped off from Star Trek Data Pads.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Apple
You know, of course, that that person was actually Grub. Check Grub's history from around that time, he made a post and signed off Dr Bob, and then admitted the whole thing when it was pointed out.
(Unless I'm thinking of someone else, and not Dr Bob, but it is certainly the case that Grub is a troll.)
Some of us also don't really mind microsoft, and actually like some of their stuff. I do like their dev tools myself. But atm MS's biggest positive feature is that it's not Apple.
"So what you are saying is that a guy who pours significant amounts of time into developing an algorithm, making it space and time efficient, modelling it to resolve concurrency issues, etc... should not get patent protection and that you are 'entitled' to use his algorithm without compensating him for all his hard work? "
There is a whole branch existing around that same concept of not getting money for algorithm you think of : that's called mathematic. You might have heard of it. Try patenting any mathematic cocnept even advanced one. A software is actually only a mathematical application in the very end. What you should be entitled to is to protect a specific implementation of such algorithm and it is called copyright. What you ask for, aptent of software, is akin to selling your cake (copyright) and then eating it (patent).
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Samsung: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your breast, and the wind in your hair...
WRONG! Apple, what is best in life?
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.
Huh? Nobody has slapped me in the face.
A good troll has several accounts set up just to troll, but he actually re-uses them, and each of those has a distinct and well-developed personality, complete with a posting history going back years, that makes him look genuine even after an in-depth check. This allows for truly masterful trolling, such as having those separate accounts actually argue between themselves, calling each other shills etc, lamenting about the sorry state of Slashdot groupthink moderation, and so on. If you pick your topics right (e.g. Apple vs Google), you can get a string of +5, Insightful posts that way for both accounts, and spawn a 100+ comment follow-up thread from all sorts of folks. It's hilarious.
Ahem. Not that I'd personally know that. Just people sayin'
Apple abuses the patent system, Google does not.
We can't all agree apple is innovative. It's not even something that is upheld around apple, http://news.yahoo.com/former-apple-exec-apple-haven-t-invented-anything-151548130.html It's just something for fanboys to latch on to, so they feel like they are on the cutting edge of tech. Being successful and innovative are not necessarily linked at all.
Rocket Surgeon.
...i went into a shop because i wanted to buy myself a new samsung galaxy s3 phone. when i unpacked it at home i realized that i got an iphone 5. they made it look like a samsung phone because these sell like warm rolls... just kidding, i'm happy with the sgs2 running cm10...
Nope. Apple is a cunt. Everyone who buys apple products is a cunt. Don't be a cunt.
Nice to see another Australian in here?
Umm... it's flamebait if people are against innovation. Are you against innovation?
Wonder if the judge(s) at the ITC got a free iPhone?
The day Microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck, it will be known as the Microsoft Vaccuum Cleaner!
If apple is so good than it can win in the market instead of hitting below the belt by suing where it cannot compete.