Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name
Qedward writes "Freedom to go under a pseudonym is, miraculously, one freedom to survive the security lock-down of the previous decade. Now Facebook wants to change this. James Firth shows Facebook is clamping down on pseudonyms, with an interesting screenshot of being asked whether a friend is using their real name."
If you have comments you should post them as Anonymous... because we can.
nobody ever won a war with their customers
Get stitches.
In my case some of these people are expert army sharpshooters and/or former paratroopers
So no, I'm not snitching
John imsoclevercauseichangedmymiddlename Smith is targeted under this new scrutiny. There are probably 20-30 people on my facebook who do that.
My last name isn't Coward; it's actually Smith.
Anonymous is my real given name though. Life has not been kind to me ever since 4chan took off.
Please help us understand how people are using Facebook:
Is this your friend's real name?
Do you really like this friend?
Has this friend ever sent you any revealing pictures?
How much do you think this friend spends on entertainment? clothes? shoes? online services?
Please estimate the odds that this so-called friend might be a terrorist?
If you had to describe this friend to Facebook and the DHS, which of the following descriptions would you use: creative? avant-garde? obedient? disruptive?
Facebook appreciates your answers and respects your privacy. Thank you.
Fake date of birth, fake profile picture, fake location details, ...
This could be a good little snitching exercise, but then Fakebook would lose so many under-13s* that their userbase would practically halve. And that's just tackling DOBs, let alone the other details.
(*I'm not condoning under-13s being on the website, only stating the fact that there are a lot of children who signed up with fake DOBs.)
Just look at how it's designed. It's designed to encourage snitch culture.
Let me make it clear, telling the truth isn't the same as snitching. Witnessing isn't the same as snitching. And helping the police isn't the same as snitching. Snitching is telling on your own side.
The problem with Facebook itself is it doesn't care about ethics or the risks associated with making everyone stalkable. Facebook is a stalker friendly application while at the same time snitch friendly. That combination isn't a good mix. For example if you have a friend who has a stalker maybe you shouldn't reveal their last name on Facebook even if you know it, and maybe you shouldn't tell Facebook whether or not they are using a pseudonym.
On the other hand maybe they shouldn't be on Facebook.
While its true that Facebook's customers are those purchasing ads, the rest is not quite right.
Facebook users are suppliers, not products. Their attention is the raw material for the product, which demographically targetted advertising.
The utility (in the economic system) provided by Facebook's system to the users is the payment from the product vendor to its suppliers.
Ask Apple.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
And Wal-Mart.
And of those, how many bear no resemblance to you?
I have six accounts in all. Only two are even remotely real. One has all the usual crap, the second is scrubbed for use with potential employers. The other four were used for varying purposes where I did not want to contaminate the real thing. I am about to create a seventh, just to see how outrageous I can be.
God, I hate Facebook.
I got a similar request asking if one of my female Facebook friends was really female. It's a strange question too, because she's not the kind of person you'd expect this question for. She's always posting pictures of cupcakes from Pinterest and pictures of her nephew and things like that. I wish I'd taken a screenshot of it, it was a lot like this question. I responded in the affirmative because I didn't see what kind of harm it could do. I've never heard of someone getting kicked out of Facebook for listing inaccurate personal information or anything like that.
I can understand why they'd want to get rid of "fake" users. I don't think their interest is in eliminating pseudonymity, but rather in eliminating spammers. I think they're thinking if they show you something like this for something they suspect is a fake account, it will you cause you to question whether or not you really know the person and to report them as a spammer if you don't know them. I'm thinking of those friend requests I get with pictures of attractive looking women I've never met. If you accidentally accepted one you may be unwittingly letting spammers abuse Facebook's system, so I can defiantly see why they'd want to get rid of those accounts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0
I think the epiphany comes when one watches it and doesn't laugh.
Forward! -- Emperor Norton, 2012
Facebook is not "clamping down on pseudonyms" and /. should be ashamed for posting a story that suggests it is. The questions Facebook sends to users are used for statistical purposes and are not used to punish those using pseudonyms. Pure FUD.
"I'm so moist I'm sticking to the leather." -Kermit the Frog on The Late Late Show
I used to read many a stories in which a young girl will get free drug from a neighbor. After she is hooked, he will only give if she takes off the shirt and then if she takes off her all clothes and so on. By this time, the girl is so much hooked to it, she will do anything. Facebook is just like it. You get it for free. Next you are asked to remove your shirt, next all your clothes and next.... I am happy, I don't have facebook account.
Sorry, that doesn't work with Facebook. When I gave the cute girl across the hall my Wifi password so she could check her Facebook, she refused to take off her shirt (or any other item of clothing) for me.
That would actually be an epic thing to see. It would make for a beautiful legal decision "you can't change your name to one that causes social confusion". The Artist Formerly Known As Prince could submit an amicus brief on it too.
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
Facebook users don't care, and get angry when you try to eduucate them. They think I'm crazy,, but mostly I post inane rubbish just to keep the data miners off kilter.. Spam away!
Just don't post anti-big-government opinions and Canadian rap song lyrics if you're a military veteran, or you could get the "Soviet dissident" treatment, and get thrown into a mental ward without warrant or due process.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/citizen-warrior/2012/aug/22/can-government-detain-you-over-facebook-posts/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/29/former-marine-facebook-sue-fbi
Thankfully for Raub, someone caught his detainment on video and it went viral. What if nobody had taken video? Would he still be doing the "Thorazine shuffle" and drooling on himself in a tranq'ed-out stupor in some mental ward doing a real-world remake of Jack Nicholson's role in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"?
Scary times we live in.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Nein! You must show us your papers...
Nobody said Facebook was a democracy.
Another good reason to stay away from Facebook.
I have an account that I idiotically once made to join a group to get notifications.
That group is gone but then an idiot from my school 30 years ago put connected me to people from then.
I almost never log in, and I tell people I don't like Facebook when they ask me if I'm on it.
For some reason even intelligent people seem mindless on FB.
I recently saw a publicly available discussion thread on the well, an interview with charles stross and cory doctorow iirc and others.
It was a really refreshing and considered dialogue over a week, it was great and after reading that it makes me almost physically ill to think of FB and the way it analyzes you and your friends and then hooks this spying apparatus into a targeted advertising engine. A typical asshole idea by another psychopath billionaire.
I have sometimes found it useful to get more insight into the activities of a person or company but I do not contribute to FB.
After a similar discussion on Slashdot, a year or two ago, I was inspired to post a group photo from the 1800s and invite all my friends to "false tag" themeselves. It is part of my "digital camouflage" campaign. Nature doesn't really evolve invisibility very often, camouflage and false data is much more common. After reading this post I went to see if my "false tag group" was still on facebook.. and found it has disappeared. But I won't give up. "camouflage" is the answer, not anonymity. We need more bad data on Facebook. False tag a friend today. http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2010/09/simpler-ideas-cookie-camouflage-digital.html
Gently reply
...given the number of automatic SPAM appeals to join Facebook that service generates.
PS: I'm glad this story made you uncomfortable enough about your insidious 'investment' in FB to lash back. FB must really be pouring on the charm these days for its critics to be labeled 'dehumanizing'. LOL!
This line, buried in TFA (!) says enough:
That, ultimately, is what lies behind this kind of thing: Facebook wants to make money. If it knows exactly who you are, it thinks it can make more money from you.
This should be obvious enough, but sometimes the obvious needs pointing out:
Facebook can't make any money out of you if you don't use it.