Is Oprah Cheating On Her Microsoft Love?

Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:12 · Score: 5, Funny

This should really come as no surprise to anyone, as there are basically no apps available for WM8. At least M$ had the foresight to deploy their compatibility layer iOS Bridge Application (tm) allowing users to seamlessly use well-written apps from the Apple App Store on their shiny new non-Apple devices.

Browser by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:13 · Score: 5, Funny

I wonder if she used Opera?

Re:Browser by Sponge+Bath · 2012-11-20 02:03 · Score: 1

It's not over until Oprah sings.

zaPP? by mwvdlee · 2012-11-19 23:14 · Score: 3, Funny

zaGG.

I know P and G are nearly identical, but this is still has to be one of the most stuggid, poddamn tygos ever.

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Re:zaPP? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:14 · Score: 0

You write stupid with 2 p's? :(

EPIC by xming · 2012-11-19 23:14 · Score: 2, Insightful

Fail.

Re:EPIC by arth1 · 2012-11-20 00:44 · Score: 2

EPIC Fail.
It may be a failure, but what makes it epic? Where's the epos? Are there tales of how Oprah has travelled around the world conquering microhaters, only to fall on her sword this way during the home run?
Re:EPIC by xming · 2012-11-20 00:57 · Score: 1

MS PR/marketing, not Oprah.
Re:EPIC by gmuslera · 2012-11-20 01:26 · Score: 2

This is not in the range of epic fails for MS PR standards, just a minor scratch. It can't be compared to Bill Gates getting a BSOD showing Windows 98 or, more recently the Surface version with Steven Sinofsky. And there were a lot of intermediate fails in the last 15 years.
Re:EPIC by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:47 · Score: 0

EPIC Fail.
It may be a failure, but what makes it epic? Where's the epos? Are there tales of how Oprah has travelled around the world conquering microhaters, only to fall on her sword this way during the home run?
This is a simple case of a celebrity paid to endorse a product and then not using the product themselves. Oprah endorsing anything will boost its sales, though the price of a Surface RT will sting many Oprah influenced households if it fails to deliver the level of quality (or in this case, user experience and usability) that Oprah followers have come to expect from her "blessing". This may be a moneymaker for Oprah, but if the Surface RT devices can't do what users expect - the way users have come to expect it - then it will tarnish Oprah endorsements in the long run.

Sure, a Surface RT can do the basics if you're willing to learn new things and compromise on features and available applications at the moment (which is the moment the new users expect it to "just work"), but it's not deserving of a "ringing endorsement" yet.
Re:EPIC by ericloewe · 2012-11-20 02:03 · Score: 1

Well, Oprah does give out free stuff like the people in the studio had just survived an epic voyage.
Re:EPIC by sumdumass · 2012-11-20 02:40 · Score: 4, Insightful

The epic part would be where it appears Oprah's open and honest endorsement of a product appears to simply be a shill for something she couldn't even be bothered to use while shilling for it.
Oprah seems to have this cult following (less now that she isn't on regular TV) that trusts her words in ways that would make Paul Harvey appear like a used car salesman and they seem to do whatever she tells them. That is why Oprah's endorsement in and of itself is newsworthy- let alone why this seeming deceit is.
Re:EPIC by arth1 · 2012-11-20 06:02 · Score: 1

The epic part would be where it appears Oprah's open and honest endorsement of a product appears to simply be a shill for something she couldn't even be bothered to use while shilling for it.
That's not epic. Epic doesn't mean "incredible", "noteworthy" or "big" - it requires a long story behind it. That's what makes something epic.
Re:EPIC by thetoadwarrior · 2012-11-20 07:54 · Score: 1

She no doubt still has a big check from Microsoft. So I'm sure she's not crying about it.
Re:EPIC by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 09:00 · Score: 0

Is it not valid for someone to not be a mindless fanboy and actually like more than one device? Like maybe she already has an iPad and now she tried the surface and liked it as well, but instead of replacing her perfectly usable tablet, she has bought them for friends, while continuing to use what she already has. What would be so wrong with that?
Re:EPIC by Darinbob · 2012-11-20 09:43 · Score: 1

The fail is that people allow their applications to advertise themselves when they are used. I have even sent some email back to people who use the "Sent from my Toy" signatures to remind them to turn that off. People are sheep, even Oprah.
Re:EPIC by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 12:46 · Score: 0

Yeah it's such a fail that there are people that have multiple devices and don't have a braindead religious fanboy devotion to one of them like you, funny how you're so entrenched in that mentality that you can't even fathom the possibility that people aren't as retarded as you.

Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:16 · Score: 5, Insightful

Who gives a fuck??

Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:44 · Score: 1

Despite what the 24 hour talking head cycle may lead on about or even what you may think, all news doesn't have to be earth shattering seriousness every moment. Personally, I find stories exposing celebrity endorsement hypocricy mildly entertaining. I always knew Oprah was a fraud especially when she came out so strong for the whole "The Secret" nonsense. Now I have evidence to show any acolyte of hers I may come in contact with, that shows she's a bold face liar. Ha.
Re:Let me be the first to say... by TapeCutter · 2012-11-20 00:23 · Score: 3, Insightful

Nobody, but me and little woman think it's amusing.

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Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:50 · Score: 0

Ugh, little woman likes when I hit her with my club. Little woman bake cookies. Me go eat.
Re:Let me be the first to say... by SternisheFan · 2012-11-20 00:55 · Score: 3

Newsflash!!! Oprah Winfrey's a paid shill for Microsoft, but really uses Apple products!! Melissa Gates uses an iPod and not a Zune to listen to her music!! I, for one, am shocked! Shocked, I tells ya'! (ran out of exclamation points on this post)
Re:Let me be the first to say... by thoth · 2012-11-20 06:48 · Score: 2

It's Melinda Gates, BTW.
Besides, she's so rich she doesn't need a Zune or iPod, she just hires the band to come play their music live in her in-house concert hall. ;)
Re:Let me be the first to say... by Mike+Buddha · 2012-11-20 07:18 · Score: 2

She's a bold face liar for liking more than one tablet? Wow, the criteria for denigrating someone has degraded considerably.

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Re:Let me be the first to say... by SternisheFan · 2012-11-20 10:58 · Score: 1

It's Melinda Gates, BTW. Besides, she's so rich she doesn't need a Zune or iPod, she just hires the band to come play their music live in her in-house concert hall. ;)
Oops, you're right. So, in one post I've managed to piss off two of the world's most powerful women. Meh, what could they possibly do to --- *connection terminated*
Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 14:54 · Score: 0

We know for a fact she was pretend tweet-gasming over the Surface when in reality it was the iPad she was twiddling her fingers over. Has the woman ever verifiably even been in the same room with a Surface tablet? She's a fucking liar.

People care about Oprah? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:18 · Score: 3, Interesting

I think it's time to forget about her and her radical opinions about things. If endorsing surface wasn't enough, wait until you hear what other things she's endorsed...

Re:People care about Oprah? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:49 · Score: 0

Opera endorsing whatever is a good reason to stay away from that product.
Re:People care about Oprah? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:09 · Score: 0, Interesting

Opera endorsing whatever is a good reason to stay away from that product.
Considering she's using her iPad in her scheme shilling for the Surface, the only logical thing at this point is to get a Nexus 10! I've been thinking about getting a tablet and this is just the excuse I need to push me off the fence!
Re:People care about Oprah? by geminidomino · 2012-11-20 00:54 · Score: 2

Almost jumped onto the Nexus 10 myself, until

Google has explained that Nexus devices only offer fixed storage as the company wants to avoid "techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing".
Source

Since I'm personally trying to "avoid marketing nonsense heralding the gilded age of walled gardens," I'm giving the Nexus a pass, and still on the lookout.
Re:People care about Oprah? by ByOhTek · 2012-11-20 01:32 · Score: 1

Aren't those made by Samsung? Does google do the drivers and only leave Samsung the hardware?
If not, I'll take a Toshiba Thrive or Excite, or an ASUS thanks.

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Re:People care about Oprah? by ByOhTek · 2012-11-20 01:34 · Score: 2

She's nothing more than a cheap shill, whoring her opinion out to the lowest bidder.
Yes. I said lowest.

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Re:People care about Oprah? by oakgrove · 2012-11-20 01:50 · Score: 1

Aren't those made by Samsung? Does google do the drivers and only leave Samsung the hardware?
Yes, Samsung makes the 10, however, AOSP hosts the factory images and drivers since it is a true Nexus device. The AOSP site is always my first stop when I'm planning a new Android purchase.

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Re:People care about Oprah? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:10 · Score: 0

Samsung Note then.
Note 2 if you are cool with a PDA.
Note 10.1 if you want a big screen.
Re:People care about Oprah? by geminidomino · 2012-11-20 02:17 · Score: 1

If that's the one with the real stylus and the Wacom digitizer tech, then I've been waiting for that one for quite some time.
Re:People care about Oprah? by anon208 · 2012-11-20 04:48 · Score: 0

Oprah is useless and misguided. For example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOyqpKXJBXw. Tad bit hard to look at. She goes on in the show about how she wants to help Rudine then proceeds to do absolutely nothing of help and Rudine dies.
Re:People care about Oprah? by Mike+Buddha · 2012-11-20 07:20 · Score: 1

Because a person can only love one product, and they have to use that for everything.

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Intresting by nssy · 2012-11-19 23:24 · Score: 5, Insightful

Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters

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Re:Intresting by 1s44c · 2012-11-20 01:53 · Score: 5, Interesting

Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters
The news is the Microsoft astroturfing trolls that have so flooded slashdot are not just on slashdot, they are everywhere. They include TV personalities that the unwashed masses idealize.
Anyone that watches Oprah will believe anything, even that Microsoft products are worth buying.
Re:Intresting by Rogerborg · 2012-11-20 03:26 · Score: 1

14,800,000 people just received the order to "Buy a SURFACE" from their witch-queen.
14.8 of those people then went on to hear and understood and care that it was a shoddy astroturf.
Now, how many Americans choose to use Linux on the desktop? If it's fewer than 15 million, then I guess they don't really matter, right?
The crib notes are that we're engaged in a battle to save the general purpose computing device for nerds of the future. Every time someone chooses to buy a locked down, walled garden device, that's another slither down the slippery slope to Right To Readville.
Numbers matter. This matters. Maybe you don't think so, but your kids might, with hindsight.

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Re:Intresting by ArcadeMan · 2012-11-20 04:22 · Score: 1

Do you realize the irony of your comment, in relation to your username?

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Re:Intresting by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:26 · Score: 0

O?
When did the cult of personality become a topic that matters to geeks. Did Oprah start buying up advertising spots around the Big Bang Theory?
C'mon Slashdot... get back to the program.
Re:Intresting by westlake · 2012-11-20 05:10 · Score: 2

The news is the Microsoft astroturfing trolls that have so flooded slashdot are not just on slashdot, they are everywhere.
Anyone that watches Oprah will believe anything, even that Microsoft products are worth buying.
Microsoft tends to spend its time and money in places where the grown-ups hang out.

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OneNote has been one of my favorite applications since Microsoft began bundling it with Microsoft Office. I like that it syncs my data through SkyDrive so my notes and information are available from just about anywhere. Microsoft has also developed native apps for the iPhone, iPad, Windows Phone, and Android devices--making OneNote one of the most accessible, cross-platform tools Microsoft has.
My single favorite feature of the new OneNote, though, is unique to OneNote MX--the Metro-ized app version of OneNote designed for Windows 8. Tapping the radial menu button opens a circle containing different formatting options. On some options an arrow is available that lets you dive deeper and access more options. At any point, you can click the back arrow in the center of the radial menu to go back to the previous menu.
The radial menu is brilliant. It is an innovative approach to working with information on a touchscreen mobile device, and I hope the radial menu is also a staple of the Office apps that come with Windows 8 RT, and/or that Microsoft extends the radial menu concept to the rest of the Office suite soon.
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She did pimp fakes before by thammoud · 2012-11-19 23:25 · Score: 1

James Frey.

Re:She did pimp fakes before by Andrewkov · 2012-11-20 03:44 · Score: 1

Dr. Phill.

Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:28 · Score: 2, Insightful

Why is this even here? Is this Gawker? People Magazine? I don't give a flying fuck what Oprah is doing and this doesn't even remotely have anything to do with technology or nerds. You might as well be posting articles about what kind of phone Justin Bieber was spotted using last night. Nobody gives a fuck.

http://gawker.com/178280/the-mystery-of-non+blogger-theodp

Re:Who gives a fuck? by somersault · 2012-11-19 23:33 · Score: 4, Interesting

It's just a funny story. Chill. It's hilarious that even people being paid by MS to promote their products don't use them.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by mwvdlee · 2012-11-19 23:40 · Score: 3, Insightful

It's imporant news to the multitude of paid MS shills operating on Slashdot.
Since they make up a significant portion of first-posters, Slashdot should cater to their needs too.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:46 · Score: 0

Agreed. The shit is effing hilarious. How cynical we have become that we don't even blink at out and out lies being told by highly influential people? It's kind of fucked up if you think about it.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:52 · Score: 0

I almost feel bad for them. Everything they try to shill from Windows Phone to Window 8 to Surface to Zune, etc. just flops that much harder despite their obvious earnest efforts. As was once said, the universe is not without a sense of irony.*
*My name is Alanis Morissette and I approve this message!
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Seumas · 2012-11-20 00:21 · Score: 2

Has Oprah seriously influenced your life? Other than this story, I can't think of the last time Oprah even came up in my life. She was totally a thing back in like the mid 90s, though.
And I honestly don't give a shit what anyone endorses. What, without the demonstrated contradiction of loving the Surface via an iPad, I'm supposed to think "gosh, this Oprah chick is really sincere about her endorsement!". C'mon.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:30 · Score: 5, Insightful

Has Oprah seriously influenced your life?
It's not my life that I was talking about, it's the legion of over 35 housewives that hang off her every word. When Oprah speaks, her followers listen. With one offhand comment, she can shoot a book up on the bestseller list. All I'm saying is if you bear that kind of social responsibility then at least keep it real. Surely if the woman is going to shill for the Surface, she can at least bother to use the one Microsoft assuredly furnished her for the task. The shit is free. Pick the damn thing up and tweet on it. Hell, get a lackey to do it. Don't be a fucking hypocritical liar heaping praise on a gadget when the very lying words you are writing are being composed on the competitor's product. When people get busted lying like that they need to at least be clued in that somebody noticed. Maybe one day, a modicum of shame or, God forbid, decency might enter the public discourse.
So, does Oprah "influence" me? Hell no. That doesn't mean she should be given carte blanche to tell bold faced lies to the people here words do effect.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by miknix · 2012-11-20 00:34 · Score: 1

If this is indeed true, then in my opinion it only reflects the desperate situation Microsoft is in..
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:40 · Score: 2, Insightful

MS earned $69+ billion last year. Hardly sounds like a company that's flopping, or selling flops.
I didn't say MS was flopping so you can sit on that strawman and spin. Had you the capability of actually comprehending what you read, you'd see that I mentioned 2 products that are definite flops, namely the Zune and Windows Phone, then I threw in a couple of other products that aren't off to a great start possibly fortelling a future flop, namely Windows 8 and the Surface. That 69 billion dollar figure doesn't mean shit anyway, since what they actually made was 27 billion. That money was made primarily in two places, Office and Windows licensing with some rounding errors accounting for the XBox and a few other things.
A ton of shit MS comes out with flops hard and just throwing up an income figure like some fucking fanboy moron isn't going to change that.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by 91degrees · 2012-11-20 00:53 · Score: 5, Funny

I'm a paid Microsoft Shill. Honestly, it's excellent money. We just spend all day posting to Slashdot. Clearly this is well worth it to Microsoft, because just a few well worded comments will make the notoriously Microsoft-hostile Slashdot readers suddenly change their minds, and immediately decide that they're going to use an inferior product.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:03 · Score: 0

Bieber wasn't using a phone. It was a touchscreen shoe.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:07 · Score: 0

Is Tom your liaison officer or is it Jim ? I used to work for Tom but shilling for Jim gets me way more money !
Re:Who gives a fuck? by cygnwolf · 2012-11-20 01:17 · Score: 1

This made me fall out of my chair laughing. And I'm all out of mod points.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:18 · Score: 4, Insightful

If this is indeed true, then in my opinion it only reflects the desperate situation Microsoft is in..
Desperate ain't even the word for it. Fucking scared shitless is more like it. Here, let me paint this iPad shaped picture for you. The WinRT Surface is the epitome of pointless me-too shite. For all the supposed "innovation" in the UI, all one has to do is take two steps back and really look at the situation for what it is. The Surface and the entire Windows on ARM initiative is a desperate attempt to copy the iPad and in true cargo cult fashion, MS thinks if they lock the app store down just so, and get just this many content partners then they can through sheer will somehow ape the iPad formula and *hand wave* beat Apple at their own game. Ha! What they're forgetting is the iPad is not just another competitive device from any old company. The iPad, when you look at it from the typical consumer perspective, is fucking fantastic. It has hundreds of thousands of apps, it's relatively cheap, it has a jaw dropping high-res screen (you know, that thing you'll be looking at when you use it), it has an interface that, again assuming the consumer role, is sublime in its simplicity.
Basically, the iPad is ridiculously better than the Surface in practically every way that matters to the market. The entry level price is cheaper, it has tons more apps, it has an interface that is not nearly as confusing, and on and on. Basically, the iPad is what people expect a tablet to be. Android through sheer virtue of looking and acting so much like iOS is acceptable to many people as well. Trying to pawn off WinRT as a legitimate alternative to the general consumer is laughable in its current state. And the back and forth desktop/metro mode is pure comedy. The thing is a joke. And an expensive one at that. The days of divine providence where if you were using a consumer device that could be confused with a computer, Windows as OS was a given, are quite simply over. MS know Windows and by extension Office are the keys to the kingdom and tablet by tablet and smartphone by smartphone, that providence is being revoked. Yeah, they scared.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:29 · Score: 0

I wouldn't say they earned it.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:30 · Score: 0

If anyone praises Linux, it's because of liberty and choice. If anyone praises Windows, it's because they're a paid Microsoft shill. Is that right?
Go fuck yourself.
Ha ha. Did Linus Torvalds embarrass you in a game of horseshoes or something so now you have to make it a point to drop some turd of an insult to the man's kernel in the middle of otherwise polite conversation? Whatever it was, I hope you get over it soon. Harboring resentment is a leading cause of strokes you know. Seriously, man. People are staring at the crazy rabble rousing Linux hater you otherwise affectionately know as your little old self. It's just a piece of software, not worth spending your hate on.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:40 · Score: 0

Hmmm, interesting, tell me more....
I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter....
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Jose · 2012-11-20 01:42 · Score: 1

t's the legion of over 35 housewives that hang off her every word
I always heard that she had an army..but I never heard an actual number put to it.
so she has roughly 37 ladies who will do what she says.
these must be some very rich ladies!

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by 1s44c · 2012-11-20 01:57 · Score: 1

Has Oprah seriously influenced your life? Other than this story, I can't think of the last time Oprah even came up in my life. She was totally a thing back in like the mid 90s, though.
She influences the lives of a large number of the kind of people who watch Oprah's TV trash. They are the target audience of this deception, not You and I.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by 1s44c · 2012-11-20 02:00 · Score: 2

..and only one person over 35.
Hey! I know plenty of people over 35 who read slashdot and have productive careers in IT.
Troll Oprah not us 35+ year olds you whipper-snapper and get the hell off my lawn.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by 1s44c · 2012-11-20 02:04 · Score: 1

Minor correction:
"Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony" - Morpheus
Alanis Morissette doesn't even know what irony is and wrote a whole song proving this.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by 1s44c · 2012-11-20 02:10 · Score: 3, Insightful

If anyone praises Linux, it's because of liberty and choice. If anyone praises Windows, it's because they're a paid Microsoft shill. Is that right?
If someone praises a product that has been hammered by review after review it's likely a paid marketing attempt.
If someone praises a product within seconds of a new story being posted they are either the world's fastest typist or they are copy and pasting something.
The Microsoft astroturfers are all over slashdot and we all know it, but as you point out not everything pro Microsoft is a paid astroturfer.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:15 · Score: 1

Just how old do you think 35 is?
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:53 · Score: 0

Minor correction:
"Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony" - Morpheus
Alanis Morissette doesn't even know what irony is and wrote a whole song proving this.
Yeah, I went for the lowest fruit on the joke tree, internal consistency be damned. Blame it on the acute lack of caffeine at the time. Anyway, funny thing about the Morrissette song is there is not one single example of irony in it anywhere. Not one. Just case after case of inconvenient to profoundly bad luck. Take the guy who's "afraid to fly..." then "as the plane crashes down, he thought, isn't this nice". Earth to talentless hack, that's not irony! Had he drove rather than flown thinking he was safer, then a plane actually crashed into his car killing him anyway, well, that would be pretty fucking ironic. Not nearly as poetic but, dammit, lexical precision is worth maintaining!
Re:Who gives a fuck? by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:27 · Score: 1

"I always heard that she had an army"
common misconception.
Just remember this rule of thumb:
Armies are good legions are evil.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:16 · Score: 0

So you really were ROTFL?
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:24 · Score: 0

Oh woes me there be AstroTurf here as well?
Re:Who gives a fuck? by ArcadeMan · 2012-11-20 04:24 · Score: 1

There are a total of 0 housewives reading Slashdot, and only one person over 35.
We'd need to have some hard numbers to confirm this, but I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of the Slashdot readers are over 30.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by kaatochacha · 2012-11-20 05:40 · Score: 1

Jesus, if you're going to keep rambling on about how much you hate Microsoft's products and lust after Apple, at least have the decency to post as something other than AC.
It makes you sound like the creepy stalker lurking, unknown, outside someone's bedroom window.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 07:10 · Score: 0

I know someone who works in marketing at MS. Trust me, they don't even know what slashdot is.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 07:26 · Score: 0

if you're going to keep rambling on about how much you hate Microsoft's products and lust after Apple at least have the decency to post as something other than AC.
Sorry dude, no karma whoring for your amusement. Besides, I don't own the network nor the computer I'm on and the surest way to ensure the safety of my precious Slashdot login details is not to type them in. Ta da. Or in your case, Ta "duh"! I'll tell you what, skippy, if you can effectively refute one single point made in my previous post, I'll log in and thank you from my actual account. Or, if you're feeling extra froggy, why don't you reply back in some detail on why I'm wrong rather than boring me with your worthless uninspired 2/10 ad hominem, which frankly is the lexical equivalent of the fat kid and the retarded kid furiously battling it out in a one armed slap fight in the second row seat of the not yellow but red short bus. The short bus that, may I remind you, only has 2 rows. And the real kneeslapper is me pointing out that the retarded kid and the fat kid are actually the same person. After reading a few of your scribblings culminating at the nadir with your pathetic attempt at insulting me, its clear that any metaphorical distinction between you and a random retarded kid slapboxing with himself is meaningless and, in an almost artistically inspired harmonic balance with your aggregate self-presentation, completely, laughably, absurd.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by westlake · 2012-11-20 09:10 · Score: 2

If someone praises a product within seconds of a new story being posted they are either the world's fastest typist or they are copy and pasting something.
or they might be a paid subscriber
or they might have taken a drink from the Firehouse.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by PyroMosh · 2012-11-20 10:06 · Score: 1

If someone praises a product that has been hammered by review after review it's likely a paid marketing attempt.
Or it's likely a differing opinion. As someone who enjoys (some) Microsoft products, and occasionally defends that position here on Slashdot, the whole "shill" thing gets tiresome.

If someone praises a product within seconds of a new story being posted they are either the world's fastest typist or they are copy and pasting something.
This is fair. If it's happening. I read Slashdot daily, and either these are getting moderated down to -1 SUPER quick (I read at 0) or it's not happening enough for me to notice. Can you link to examples?

The Microsoft astroturfers are all over slashdot and we all know it, but as you point out not everything pro Microsoft is a paid astroturfer.
No, I don't think we all know it. I see this idea parroted a lot. I don't see examples cited, other than people saying "Hey OneNote is pretty good! You should give it a chance!" followed by ten replies calling the poster an astroturfer.
It gets really old and frankly is embarrassing to watch.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 10:57 · Score: 0

or they might be a paid subscriber
Yeah, except paid subscribers are pretty easy to spot since they have the little decal by their username. Very few of the freshly minted first post pouncing copy-pasta in tow MS cheerleader accounts are paid subscribers. As a matter of fact I haven't noticed a single one that is.

or they might have taken a drink from the Firehouse.
Taken singularly, that would be plausible. Unfortunately based on the well established pattern of abusive first post pro-Microsoft shilling via new accounts with usernames either predictably generic like "GoogleFan1" or a small variation on an older shill account, i.e., "TechNY" and "TechLA". Even the posts themselves are predictably formulaic as if the product of some Google hating MS loving Eliza bot.
Of course, if it makes you happy to play dumb then so be it but we both know that's all you're doing. Playing dumb.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 11:28 · Score: 0

If someone praises a product that has been hammered by review after review it's likely a paid marketing attempt.

Or it's likely a differing opinion. As someone who enjoys (some) Microsoft products, and occasionally defends that position here on Slashdot, the whole "shill" thing gets tiresome.
Shill posts, or at least the ones written by intelligent shills are intended to blend in and avoid detection (though with some of the blatant stunts pulled on here I'm tempted to look into "shill theory"). I visit Slashdot on a very regular basis sometimes daily or even hourly. Like a cop who knows his beat, it's not that hard to see when a post or pattern of posts are out of the ordinary. The repeated 2.7 and 2.8 million UID instant paste Google hating first posts are shill garbage. Play dumb all day if it suits you but at least be honest with yourself.

This is fair. If it's happening. I read Slashdot daily, and either these are getting moderated down to -1 SUPER quick (I read at 0) or it's not happening enough for me to notice. Can you link to examples?
Here you go. Now impress me with how dumb you can act swearing up and down that "GoogleFan1" having posted a whopping three times on this site is a legitimate poster with no gilded axe to grind. Oh, and that post is +5 so there goes your mod down theory.

No, I don't think we all know it. I see this idea parroted a lot. I don't see examples cited, other than people saying "Hey OneNote is pretty good! You should give it a chance!" followed by ten replies calling the poster an astroturfer.

It gets really old and frankly is embarrassing to watch.
Personally I don't give a rat's ass how many shills Slashdot has. There isn't a perspective I can't take devil's advocate on whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent and not make a convincing and cogent argument for or against whatever is up for discussion. So, bring on the shills. It makes me smile to stomp professional spinmeisters into the ground. It's just so damned satisfying. Why? I don't know. Probably a dominance thing. At any rate, I will pit my argumentation skills against anybody and bet money that I can win. However, the fact is that aside from the pleasure of watching them run with their little shill tails tucked 'twixt their nethers, shilling is a net increase of informational entropy. Even when they are telling the truth and the best ones always tell the truth or something indistinguishable from it, they aren't really adding information. Towing a party line is fine but the constant switching off of accounts sacrificing pseudonymous continuity significantly restricts conversational dimensionality. Some posters on here I truly despise. APK is one. Hairyfeet is another. But at least when "Hairyfeet" makes a post I can put it in context with my previous interactions with the personality controlling the account. When GoogleFan1 does his 3 post drive-by, shilling along his merry way only to resurface days later as somebody completely different you lose all context. That is classic shill behavior and it detracts significantly from any forum it happens on including this one. Really, that's my one and only gripe with the phenomenon. Other than that, get to waving those dickbeaters on your keyboards, bitches. I'm always on the lookout for a new favorite chew toy.
Re:Who gives a fuck? by bingoUV · 2012-11-21 05:27 · Score: 1

My theory of shill spotting is simple. If a poster always has good things to say about a company, be it about CEO sexual preference, stock buy-worthiness, product quality, customer service, ethics, and every other imaginable subject; it is too much of a coincidence. If there are hundreds of posts, with most devoted to the company in question, statistical confidence increases.
I don't distinguish between fanboy and shill, and nor do I want to because both kinds of opinion are equally worthless.
Though the sibling post's AC does make a valid point about hit and run.

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Re:Who gives a fuck? by Macgrrl · 2012-11-21 14:04 · Score: 1

One has to wonder if the lack of any genuine examples of irony is intentional and is of itself ironic.

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SurFAIL by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:32 · Score: 0

n/t

Do not anger Oprah. by Guano_Jim · 2012-11-19 23:34 · Score: 1

Or she will unleash the bees.

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Irony or Dispair by tuppe666 · 2012-11-19 23:40 · Score: 0, Flamebait

Its oddly Ironic reading Apple propaganda, about Microsoft Propaganda. In fact it makes my head hurt. Thank heavens both these ghastly companies are losing relevance. I notice the Nexus 7 is optimistic about selling 5 Million tablets by new year [For reference Apple sold 14million tablets last quarter]

The sad second part of the the story celebrity endorsement is simply business as usual, I was reading about Adidas and Puma http://www.neatorama.com/2012/11/19/Family-Feud-Adidas-vs-Puma/#more just today, and how part of their success was getting Jesse Owens to wear their shoes. The only thing that has changes is the world is giving more power to celebrity endorsements as people "like" what they are told to like books; movies; products...and you have to go along to fit in. I personally believe the hipster fashion is simply a way of liking thinks and pretending they are irony [although to be fair I'm the only one that thinks so].

Re:Irony or Dispair by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:02 · Score: 5, Insightful

I notice the Nexus 7 is optimistic about selling 5 Million tablets by new year [For reference Apple sold 14million tablets last quarter]
As with the smartphone market where up until the Galaxy S3, no Android phone outsold the iPhone yet Google is mopping up the market share, so will the tablet market go. No time soon will any single Android tablet outsell the mighty iPad but believe that very soon Android will ship on more tablets than iOS does and when the tipping point is reached, the iPad will find its rightful place in the inevitable high margin//small share niche Apple seems to love so much on the desktop.

I was reading about Adidas and Puma http://www.neatorama.com/2012/11/19/Family-Feud-Adidas-vs-Puma/#more just today, and how part of their success was getting Jesse Owens to wear their shoes.
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That doesn't bother me so much. I hope Owens loves his leather and rubber Adidas/Puma amalgamation since at least he actually wears what he is endorsing. If he thought the shoe would slow him down, no amount of money would put a pair on his feet. Compare that to what Oprah (a highly influential personality) is doing. The woman is basically lying her ass off pretending to be a Surface user when the reality is she wields an iPad. It's sad that the generation of cynics will just think business as usual. The woman is a hypocrite and a fucking liar. Simple as that.
Re:Irony or Dispair by tuppe666 · 2012-11-20 01:05 · Score: 0

What is ironic is that he claims that Apple and Microsoft are loosing relevance.
:) Sorry the reference was about, in the old world, on the Market shares were Desktop 90% Microsoft; 5% Apple; 2% Linux respectively in the New Mobile world its 70% Linux; 15% Apple; 2% Microsoft respectively.
In the context of this article the Apples tablet market share has dropped from 70% to 50% in the last quarter, and Microsoft have yet to have a successful product.
There is nothing ironic about those figures they are simply facts. Its a new world. :)
Re:Irony or Dispair by clarkn0va · 2012-11-20 01:08 · Score: 3, Funny

I personally believe the hipster fashion is simply a way of liking thinks and pretending they are irony [although to be fair I'm the only one that thinks so].
So let it be noted that you though so before it was cool to think so.

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Re:Irony or Dispair by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:12 · Score: 0

How come you post shit all the time and it's all so fucking inanely stupid? Here's a bright idea: Take a fucking economics class.
Re:Irony or Dispair by thoth · 2012-11-20 02:55 · Score: 1

That doesn't bother me so much. I hope Owens loves his leather and rubber Adidas/Puma amalgamation since at least he actually wears what he is endorsing.

Loves? Wears? More like past tense... this is the Jesse Owens from the 1936 Berlin Olympics, not a current athlete.
But yeah, getting caught shilling for a product you don't even use. That's kinda like that old ad campaign from Microsoft about how great WinXP Pro (I think?) was, written on a Mac.
Cut Oprah some slack, maybe she tried tweeting from her Surface but found out there weren't any twitter clients for Windows RT. ;)
Re:Irony or Dispair by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 03:03 · Score: 0

Cut Oprah some slack, maybe she tried tweeting from her Surface but found out there weren't any twitter clients for Windows RT. ;)
Since I'm so proud of it, I'll paraphrase my response above to a similar comment...
Oprah: Where the tweeter?
Offscreen Disembodied Voice: OPEN THE FRIGGIN' BROWSER AND GO TO TWITTER DOT COM, DUMBASS!
Were they entertaining an audience of one, that one being myself, they would o' brought down the house with that one.
Re:Irony or Dispair by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:21 · Score: 1

Fasle dichotomy.
It's the same one that Apple fanboys use with the Mac.
Completely forgetting that one is a diverse eco system, and the other is completely vertical
You should compare all current version android tables of the current version to iPads
Otherwise it's like when people would say 'Mac is doing better becasue there are less HP computers being sold.
". The only thing that has changes is the world is giving more power to celebrity endorsements as people
nope. Celebrity endorsement have always held sway.
Whether it's a popular person selling shoes, or tablets, or a popular person selling a new philosophy at the step of the Parthenon.
That is one of the most important reason to teach people critical thinking.
IT's also why I believe that a parent should deconstruct commercials for children. SO the children learn there are insinuation, and presentation. Not substance.

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Re:Irony or Dispair by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:25 · Score: 1

" I hope Owens loves his leather and rubber Adidas/Puma amalgamation since at least he actually wears what he is endorsing."
That's not the point.
The point being other non-superstars will by them simple becasue Owens uses them. I'm going out on a limb here, but I am going to say the vast majority of Adidas wearers are not Owens level of performance. So why buy them?
As it turns out, good shoes are very important to a happy retirement. So, buy good shoes. Just don't base your decision on what some whose parameters for buying are different then yours.

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Re:Irony or Dispair by willy_me · 2012-11-20 05:30 · Score: 1

the iPad will find its rightful place in the inevitable high margin//small share niche Apple seems to love so much on the desktop.
This would be fine. So long as there are multiple players in the mobile OS space, everyone benefits. Should any one player, even Android, hold over 90% then innovation will stagnate. It's great that both iOS and Android are doing well. Having Windows 8 enter the market is also great as it gives developers another reason to think about cross platform compatibility when writing their applications. With developers creating inherently cross platform apps, there is always the possibility of new mobile OSes entering the market. This was not possible on the desktop as everyone was tied to Microsoft and Intel. What we are seeing now is a market develop without those ties - and that's great for everyone.
Re:Irony or Dispair by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 06:00 · Score: 0

Should any one player, even Android, hold over 90% then innovation will stagnate.
If Android held 100 percent share, innovation would be alive and well. Every OEM's take on the OS is a bit different. Even devil's advocate arguing of the compatibility requirements being some impediment to innovation, an OEM would still be free emulate Amazon's strategy with the Kindle Fire completely eschewing Google's governance altogether.

Having Windows 8 enter the market is also great as it gives developers another reason to think about cross platform compatibility when writing their applications.
Developers will think about cross platform compatibility if there is some cross platform money to be made. Even then, some people have a preferred platform and don't venture over, while other dev shops are so small that they do well keeping up with one platform at a time, much less 2 or more. Consider also that while there are general similarities between a windows 8 tablet, an iPad, and an Android tablet, the details of each platform are very specific and varied. To make an app with a lot of complexity that can take advantage of and properly implement the unique features like the "back" button on Android and Windows, or the charms bar on Windows, sadly, is all too often a recipe for lowest common denominator trash apps. Just look at the some of the many "ports" from the iPhone to Android that do nothing but bring a bespoke iOS UI over complete with redundant back button at the top and total disregard for Android UI conventions. Those apps are pure trash yet they represent a large contingent of development under the pretense of "cross platform". I'm not saying that it isn't a laudable goal but you can rest assured that the mere presence of Windows 8 in the tablet space isn't going to be some great cross platform tipping point. More likely it will just add to the fragmentation that already exists.

With developers creating inherently cross platform apps, there is always the possibility of new mobile OSes entering the market. This was not possible on the desktop as everyone was tied to Microsoft and Intel. What we are seeing now is a market develop without those ties - and that's great for everyone.

It is much easier to write cross platform desktop apps since you aren't limited to programming language or toolkit. Compare this with mobile where, for example, on Windows you have to use Direct3D, everywhere else it's OpenGL. To a limited extent, you can reuse code in the mobile world but it is relatively limited. For each platform, there is the blessed language, 2D graphic markup, and 3D accelerated frameworks. Step outside this and documentation gets progressively poor, support for hardware api's starts hitting snags, and support for platform framework integration like app lifecycle gets tricky. Basically, you will be writing your app 3 times, once for each platform if you want a quality experience for your users and 4-5 star ratings. That's just the way it is.
Re:Irony or Dispair by shmlco · 2012-11-20 11:42 · Score: 1

"If Android held 100 percent share, innovation would be alive and well. Every OEM's take on the OS is a bit different. Even devil's advocate arguing of the compatibility requirements being some impediment to innovation, an OEM would still be free emulate Amazon's strategy with the Kindle Fire completely eschewing Google's governance altogether."
Would it? Or would more people do as you suggest and emulate Amazon, forking off their own systems in order to differentiate themselves from one another and -- in the process -- leaving Google high and dry.

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Re:Irony or Dispair by oakgrove · 2012-11-20 12:00 · Score: 1

I think Amazon can pull it off on the strength of their own ecosystem. Very few players that are both in the phone/tablet business can boast such. As soon as the HTC's and the LG's of the world broke bad they and their customers would get cut out of Google Play pretty much dooming their devices to rot on store shelves. Of course you can keep going with it and consider the small players cutting content deals with Amazon or even Microsoft but it gets so speculative that it's completely outside of the context of this thread.

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Re:Fake news? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:52 · Score: 3, Informative

Twitter web interface doesn't, Twitter API does:

source String Utility used to post the Tweet, as an HTML-formatted string. Tweets from the Twitter website have a source value of web.

Re:Fake news? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-19 23:54 · Score: 0

Okay, I'm just dying to know... Are you really that stupid?

Paid off or what? by pointyhat · 2012-11-19 23:56 · Score: 4, Interesting

In the UK at least, they've been paying for various celebrity trolls to say "OMG WINPHONE8 IS TEH WIN" all over advertising. I assume this is the same forces at work trying to undermine the intelligence of the masses.

A more realistic assessment is walking into my local Currys/PC World shop (like a UK version of Best Buy which is less interesting) and watching the various people milling around. One guy was buying a Samsung Smart TV, another guy a dryer, some woman was buying a USB internet dongle and asking if it worked on her MacBook and another guy was buying a Galaxy Tab and some overpriced HDMI cables.

Windows 8 love? Absolutely sod all. No one gives a flying fuck.

Now I could be considered to be a Microsoft shill. I work for a well known Gold Partner in the UK, are a certified Microsoft software dev, have used every MS OS from DOS5 and know their shit inside out, but fuck me no one cares about them any more, me included. I'm even jumping ship with my vested and historically expensive interest in them and leveraging the 15 years of Linux experience I've picked up on the side.

Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:20 · Score: 5, Interesting

In the UK at least, they've been paying for various celebrity trolls to say "OMG WINPHONE8 IS TEH WIN" all over advertising. [...] A more realistic assessment is walking into my local Currys/PC World shop [...] Windows 8 love? Absolutely sod all. No one gives a flying fuck.
Much the same over here in the US. Just like with the Zune, MS are shoveling piles of marketing dollars pimping a product that quite simply due to vastly superior choices already on the market, nobody wants. Nobody gave a shit about windows phone 7 when they could just get an iPhone or Android and it's probably pretty safe to say the same fate awaits windows phone 8. Metro is a disaster, that while blog pundits wax ecstatic over it, the man on the street just isn't impressed. I have an HD7 windows phone and I just don't like the damned thing. Something about it. Maybe the tiles are too "flippy" or it's too restricted but I vastly prefer my Nexus S over it and that's where my sim card stays. Windows 8 sucks ass too. It's only saving grace is what appears to be slightly better performance than 7, but you know what? I don't give a fuck. My computer is badass and a few percent here and there doesn't mean shit when I have to put up with the hideous Metro screen and ridiculous gestures everywhere. I think many people will agree.
Basically, MS has finally found itself in a highly competitive market and, guess what, the ersatz bully is floundering. Badly. Imagine that.
Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:54 · Score: 0

You slashdot market experts are a riot. People said the shame shit here about the iPhone and the iPod, lol.
Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:22 · Score: 1

You slashdot market experts are a riot. People said the shame shit here about the iPhone and the iPod, lol.
The shame shit, huh? Yeah, I guess it is a "shame" the Surface is such a piece of "shit".
Re:Paid off or what? by Inda · 2012-11-20 01:28 · Score: 2

If James Kimberley Corden dances to dubstep with his W8 phone, I want one.

Wait, no, that's not right. I want to get pissed on Christmas day and ruin it for everyone.

Easy mistake to make, ay?

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Re:Paid off or what? by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:06 · Score: 1

No, the are people leveraging the undermined intelligence of the masses.
For people actual undermining it, look at anyone cutting schools, and saying things like 'Balance' and 'controversy' when there is neither.

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Re:Paid off or what? by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:13 · Score: 1, Interesting

Metro isn't a disaster. Sorry you can't be bothered to learn it, but it's the best OS they have released, ever.
I can say 'Ever' because I have used them all.
I was a huge Android fanboy. After what I just went through? I will be looking at a windows phone for my next phone.
At least keeping it current won't be a stupid cluster fuck.
"and that's where my sim card stays.
you seem to miss the point of having a sim card.
Slightly better? no, massively better. Win 8 added 20 fps to my games.
As much as I enjoy the word 'Ersatz', it doesn't apply here. It isn't an inferior substitute, it's an inferior status quo.

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Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 03:38 · Score: 0

Keeping it current won't be a clusterfuck? You mean like the flagship Windows Phone 7 Nokia phones that didn't get upgraded to 8?
Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:16 · Score: 0

No, this is more like a repeat of the network effects that consolidated the pc industry in the 80's but with MS now on the losing side.
Re:Paid off or what? by spire3661 · 2012-11-20 04:43 · Score: 1

The most likely explanation is that you got better/updated drivers, nothing more.

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Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:44 · Score: 0

So how much is Microsoft paying you to shill for them? You sound just like the other idiots MS is paying to go around sites posting positive things about it, when in reality the OS sucks. I call BS on the "best OS ever". I mean really dude, best OS ever? So I gotta ask, how much is Microsoft paying you?
Re:Paid off or what? by pointyhat · 2012-11-20 07:35 · Score: 1

Metro is a disaster. Its a land grab/app store/advertising platform/cloud lock in spun as a major operating system upgrade. And they have the fucking cheek to ship it with our 800GBP server licenses. and I haven't even started on how shitty it is to use (I've used it for three months solid - it doesn't grow on you, well it does if you compare it to a wart.or a cancerous growth). For those of us who don't give a shit about 20fps, its a ball and chain.
Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 11:47 · Score: 0

Yes, the woman with a net worth of $2.7 BILLION must be on MS' payroll.
Re:Paid off or what? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 12:03 · Score: 0

Yes, the woman with a net worth of $2.7 BILLION must be on MS' payroll.
Inking an endorsement deal is not being "on the payroll", dufus. Are you really that stupid or is this some kind of bizarre flirting?
Re:Paid off or what? by ImprovOmega · 2012-11-20 12:36 · Score: 1

Slightly better? no, massively better. Win 8 added 20 fps to my games.
Which doesn't mean a thing when the interface is so clunky that I'd rather use anything else to get the game up and running. If Windows 8 SP1 includes some options for turning off "Metro", "Modern" or whatever the hell it's being called now, and gives me back a start menu (you know, so all the applications aren't hidden by default) then maybe upgrading will be an option. For now all of the under the hood fixes are vastly overshadowed by the suckstorm that is the UI.
Re:Paid off or what? by bingoUV · 2012-11-21 05:49 · Score: 1

One needs to "learn" metro? So not ready for prime time yet.

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Hussy by puddingebola · 2012-11-20 00:12 · Score: 1

Cheating on Surface!

"Have bought 12 already for Christmas gifts." by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2012-11-20 00:17 · Score: 4, Funny

"Oprah, this sucks."

"Jay Leno's relatives all are getting new cars for Christmas!"

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Give her a break by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:22 · Score: 1

Maybe Surface doesn't have a decent Twitter app yet.

Got any more mangled similes? by wonkey_monkey · 2012-11-20 00:22 · Score: 2

In what would be akin to General Petraeus pledging fidelity to his wife from the Gmail account he shared with his lover

Yeesh.

Betcha

is not a word.

...who fesses up to Tweeting on her boss's behalf!

"His" is the gender non-specific pronoun.

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Re:Got any more mangled similes? by wonkey_monkey · 2012-11-20 00:24 · Score: 2

I'm being unfair. All of the above is forgiven since the submitter actually wrote their own submission (or at least went to the effort of not copy-pasting from either of the linked articles).

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Re:Got any more mangled similes? by SleazyRidr · 2012-11-20 02:37 · Score: 1

When your comment came up abbreviated for me it didn't show me the quotes so I saw:

Yeesh. is not a word.
Which made me think, "that is correct, yeesh is not a word, what other tidbits of grammar wisdom will this poster share with me?"
You've let me down. :(

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Re:Got any more mangled similes? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:42 · Score: 0

I thought "his" was the gender non-specific pronoun.
Re:Got any more mangled similes? by Biotech_is_Godzilla · 2012-11-20 05:04 · Score: 1

...who fesses up to Tweeting on her boss's behalf!
"His" is the gender non-specific pronoun.
I thought "Their" was the gender non-specific pronoun. If it weren't for that "who", it'd be the right word to use here.
Re:Got any more mangled similes? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 07:40 · Score: 0

the submitter actually wrote their own submission
But..but...you said "his" is the gender non-specific pronoun!

Easy to verify.. by Spottywot · 2012-11-20 00:32 · Score: 5, Funny

If she really did buy 13 Surface tablets, all we need to do is check for a spike in the sales figures.

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Re:Easy to verify.. by SparkyMartin · 2012-11-20 01:00 · Score: 1

Thanks for the morning laugh. :)
Re:Easy to verify.. by SternisheFan · 2012-11-20 01:11 · Score: 1

Yes, deserves to be modded up laugh out loud funny :-)
Re:Easy to verify.. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 06:34 · Score: 0

She bought 12. The surfaces are for other people. No one would buy a surface for themselves.

well, duh! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:33 · Score: 1

the staffer that sent it hasn't got their christmas present yet.......

I am... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 00:45 · Score: 0

... a bit surprised to see this here. I mean, seriously? Oprah? Why would anyone care?

Re:I am... by SternisheFan · 2012-11-20 01:03 · Score: 1

Does anyone remember when Drew Barrymore went on David Letterman's show to say how she "Rocks the Kraft grilled cheese!". Same shit here. The whole point of advertising is to get us to buy shit we don't really need.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by alexgieg · 2012-11-20 01:02 · Score: 2

This should really come as no surprise to anyone, as there are basically no apps available for WM8. At least M$ had the foresight to deploy their compatibility layer iOS Bridge Application (tm) allowing users to seamlessly use well-written apps from the Apple App Store on their shiny new non-Apple devices.

It'd be nice if they actually tried sending the tweet from Surface but couldn't figure out how after Twitter blocked Tweetro.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Forty+Two+Tenfold · 2012-11-20 01:03 · Score: 4, Funny

"get a real fucking tablet, it's called the iPad"

Really! From day one I deemed iPads to be some kind of sanitary napkin.

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Astroturfing at its finest! by 1s44c · 2012-11-20 01:14 · Score: 2

These are the people who go public proclaiming love for MS products, people who are paid to, people who don't use the stuff themselves.

WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:23 · Score: 0

"...Betcha Steve Ballmer has a shiny new Surface for the Oprah staffer or intern who fesses up to Tweeting on her boss's behalf!"

You mean to say Oprah doesn't post her own tweets????

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by ByOhTek · 2012-11-20 01:29 · Score: 0

Nice idea...

but, honestly, I'd cheat on the Surface (or any RT tablet) as well. Lets face it, if the only options were a Windows 8 RT tablet and an iPad... I wouldn't get a tablet.
(If, for some reason, they were free, or I had no choice and HAD to get one, I'd begrudgingly go for the iPad).

Thankfully, we have Androids.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:34 · Score: 1

Oh, yeah, thanks for reminding me! That was some funny, albeit pathetic, shit when the haters all had themselves convinced the iPad's name would somehow blunt its landing in the market and the MS hegemony on personal computers would continue unabated.

Oops.

Re:Errrrrrrrrr by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:38 · Score: 0

Is this Slashdot or Shitdot.

Both. They haven't been mutually exclusive for a long, long time.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 01:40 · Score: 0

It'd be nice if they actually tried sending the tweet from Surface but couldn't figure out how after Twitter blocked Tweetro.

There's a joke in there somewhere with the Aflac duck offscreen yell-quack-ing, "OPEN THE FRIGGIN' BROWSER AND GO TO TWITTER DOT COM YOU FUCKING DUMBASS". Alas, 'tweren't meant to be.

No surprise at all by wjwlsn · 2012-11-20 01:44 · Score: 3, Interesting

I actually saw much of Oprah's 2012 "Favorite Things" show, including the ridiculous hour long leadup showing how Oprah picks the stuff to give away. Watching this wasn't entirely by choice, as I happened to be sitting on the sofa working on my laptop while my wife and daughter were watching. (I must say though, the actual giveaways are priceless... from the over-the-top OMG OMG OMG craziness when it's something good, to the valiantly concealed "Meh!" when it sucks.)

Anyway, Oprah didn't actually choose the Surface. It was selected by one of her producers (probably after prodding by Microsoft) and shown to Oprah for a grand total of about 2 minutes. Why did she then choose it? Probably because of the kickstand and the magnetic keyboard attachment.

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Re:No surprise at all by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:21 · Score: 0

If NBC weren't such doooshes, you would be able to look up and view the classic Oprah give-a-way show skit from SNL.
I'd post a link here, but then again - dooshes.
Re:No surprise at all by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:03 · Score: 1

douche, not dooshe.
And yes, NBS, and others, are still living in the 'compete for time and spectrum' world.
Sadly.

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Re:No surprise at all by bickerdyke · 2012-11-20 04:27 · Score: 1

Anyway, Oprah didn't actually choose the Surface. It was selected by one of her producers (probably after prodding by Microsoft) and shown to Oprah for a grand total of about 2 minutes. Why did she then choose it? Probably because of the kickstand and the magnetic keyboard attachment.
Or perhaps simply because tablets are cool and no one offered a truckload of iPads to their production company.

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Re:No surprise at all by hondo77 · 2012-11-20 04:30 · Score: 1

Do you mean this clip on NBC.com?

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What I want to know by DrXym · 2012-11-20 01:56 · Score: 1

Is who are these morons who suddenly find a product desirable just because a daytime TV host has been paid very large sums of money to say they are.

Re:What I want to know by geekoid · 2012-11-20 02:57 · Score: 1

The same morons who didn't get their children vaccinated becasue they heard lies about vaccines on the Oprah show.

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Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 03:29 · Score: 0

They're akin to those morons who believe anything that a scientists spouts but minus the pale skin.

Get real... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:04 · Score: 0

While the story is funny:

- Oprah didn't send that tweet, some flunky/intern did.

- Working for a company that has had a product included in "Favorite Things", the way products get included is that you GIVE them enough to pass to everyone, to include all staff/relatives/whomever PLUS you pay up to millions of $$$ to get included...

SLASHDOT SHOCKED by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:09 · Score: 0

HEADLINE: Person Likes Both Apple And Microsoft Products. Slashdot Shocked, Appalled; Normal People Do Not Care

When will we be seeing these on Woot for $200? by supremebob · 2012-11-20 02:16 · Score: 1

At this rate, it's only a matter of time until Microsoft does a liquidation sale on this product to get rid of excess inventory.

Has anyone been able to hack this tablet and get Android on it yet? If so, I might pick one up when a liquidator like Woot starts selling excess Microsoft Surface inventory as "refurbished" for around $189,

Re:When will we be seeing these on Woot for $200? by dccase · 2012-11-20 03:30 · Score: 1

I'm holding out for a HP-style $99 fire sale.
If it can run Android or something.
Re:When will we be seeing these on Woot for $200? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:27 · Score: 0

they are betting the farm on these things and their Windows Phone phones so don't hold your breadth for fire sales. They will keep this thing alive and pay vendors to market and sell it to the clueless for years. They have the cash to do it too.

Oprah... Seriously? by Jawnn · 2012-11-20 02:17 · Score: 1

On /.
How the hell is anything about Oprah news for nerds? And no, "news" about what tablet she may, or may not, use is not "stuff that matters". Millions of people use various different tablets. Which one Oprah uses means dick.
Jesus wept.

Re:Oprah... Seriously? by geekoid · 2012-11-20 02:56 · Score: 1

Becasue Slashdot has shed the last of it's Nerd pretense and now is just another media site spiraling around the drain?

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Re:Oprah... Seriously? by Rogerborg · 2012-11-20 03:04 · Score: 1

I like to think of Slashdot as a sort of pop-culture twitter feed now. Granted, tweets can have up to 140 characters of original content in them, which is where the analogy falls down.

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Re:Oprah... Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 06:03 · Score: 0

"Jesus wept."
Why? Was he having trouble starting the mower again? Maybe you should talk to Julio, he has a newer mower that starts right up, he never weeps.

Has Slashdot jumped the shark? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:46 · Score: 0

Yup, in fact it did so at least 5 years ago. Even Malda had the sense to finally leave. The site has recently been sold to a two bit job search site, which will probably shut Slashdot down within a year or so after its advertising blitz on the site fails. So long Slashdot, you used to be something.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 02:50 · Score: 1

Yes, in an effort to try and make this seem relevant or interesting to slashdotters. Let's talk about user agent strings and other things. If twitter identifies the posting client based on what the software reports only, then it's sort of meaningless isn't it? After all, Firefox has addons that allow you to alter your user agent string to several pre-configured standards including different brower and OS identities, Konqueror does this natively. In fact most every modern browser can self identify as a toaster running on Irix if it wants to. But hey I didn't expect Oprah was the sort of tech savy individual who's blunders were worth snickering at...

OWN is doing bad so she needs the funds from M$ by Joe_Dragon · 2012-11-20 02:52 · Score: 1

OWN is doing bad so she needs the funds from M$ to say Microsoft is a GOOD BUY.

It's becasue she is a hypocrite by geekoid · 2012-11-20 02:55 · Score: 1

who is responsible for the deaths a disease of many children.
You read that right: Children are dead becasue of her.

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Re:It's becasue she is a hypocrite by Rogerborg · 2012-11-20 03:07 · Score: 1

To be fair, many of those children would have grown up to become Hitler.

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Lesson 1 by poofmeisterp · 2012-11-20 02:58 · Score: 1

When you pay people off for promotional material, create a manual of operation that includes a self-destructing secrecy clause and a 30-day refund policy if the operational guidelines aren't met.

LOL!

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Reverand+Dave · 2012-11-20 03:06 · Score: 1

MS hegemony on personal computers would continue unabated.

It pretty much has. Microsoft still has a considerable margin of the market share in the personal computer arena. Tablets are not personal computers, they are tablets, and if you really want to compare mobile devices, well I have bad news for you there too.

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Re:That's Racist! by jareth-0205 · 2012-11-20 03:26 · Score: 2

Yet *you're* the first one to mention race...

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by geekoid · 2012-11-20 03:36 · Score: 1

What a silly choice.
The Win 8 will be easier to hack and put a different image on.

Duh.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · 2012-11-20 03:41 · Score: 1

IMHO, you just defined the usecases for *all* tablets regardless of manufactorer.

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In other words... by pak9rabid · 2012-11-20 03:44 · Score: 1

So what your'e saying is Oprah was paid off my MS to endorse their product, even though she doesn't prefer it? I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.

Or maybe... by jockm · 2012-11-20 03:54 · Score: 1

Her iOS loving assistant tweeted for her? Or she uses multiple devices? Or one of a number of explanations that don't involve her being a shill? Or maybe she is? No one here has enough data to say, not that that is anything new on /., but at least theoretically this is a group of people who should know better...

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Confused by tuppe666 · 2012-11-20 03:57 · Score: 1

Fasle dichotomy.

I'm not confident in what you are referring to. You seem a little confused. https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23772412 I am comparing like with like from your example"current version android tables of the current version to iPads", What may be wrong is comparing a 7" tablet with a 10" tablet or not including 5" and above phones as tablets, but nobody every argues those points, because Apple would look even worse.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:12 · Score: 0

So, "a real fucking tablet" is a device that is worthless for anything where you're doing more than reading the news, playing games or watching videos of cats on the internet?

Though your impudence casts you undeserving, it stands one wiser than yourself has stooped to honor you with a well administered mod paddling. I, in the same vein and in the interest of posterity, will deign to answer your simpleton's question. This moment, abandon your pathetic station. Bring your foul lips upward to accept precious liquid from the cup of discerned understanding. Now drink, fool. A "real fucking tablet" is what happened upon discovering trying to shoehorn a desktop OS onto a touch native handheld device was never going to propel the form factor to mainstream success. A real fucking tablet is what you get after starting with a blank sheet of paper, (no, not a blank Windows desktop and no, not the reverse. that is, starting with a desktop OS and removing vestigial touch unfriendliness) tuning everything from the first pixel to the very last one and everything in between from system settings to OS navigation to first party apps, in an uncompromising vision culminating in the asymptotic fusion of intuitive manipulation and 2 dimensional plane imbued with precise finger to pixel capacitive multi-touch and only capacitive multi-touch. The embodiment of insight subtle yet so profound, the unassuming iPad would herald a revolution in personal computing the tablet now in full emergence from the smoldering ash failures of electronic defilement Microsoft for so long had vandalized the IT landscape with. I'll spare you the rest of the behind the scenes iPad triumph but I will leave you with this. Pick up the next stock WinRT or Win8 tablet you see and click the desktop tile. Then marvel at how a 70 billion dollar a year company that owned personal computers lock stock and barrel for going on 2 decades could be so goddamned oblivious to the difference between what constitutes a "real fucking tablet" as produced by their competitor and their pathetic franken-kludge cock up, so absurdly bifurcated the chief focus group complaint being the abrupt confusing switch between not one but two paragons of excrement dubbed euphemistically as "desktops". I mean, what? What the fuck? It's a tablet! Desktop need not apply. The Surface is DOA. As you were, cur.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by ArcadeMan · 2012-11-20 04:16 · Score: 1

Sure, browsers have the ability to change their user-agent. But really, what's the percentage of users who does that? It's probably statistically insignificant.

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This is why I'm not a subscriber by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:19 · Score: 0

It's stories like this that make me not want to subscribe. I can't even bother to log in anymore.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bickerdyke · 2012-11-20 04:21 · Score: 1

I'd get the one matching my desktop OS

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Oprah is not for sale - right, I've got swamp land by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 04:24 · Score: 0

if anyone is dumb enough to think Oprah is not for sale then they deserve to buy Microsoft's lame excuse for a tablet.

From what's going around, they are redefining Ctl-Alt-Del with it so there yet another thing to figure out on your own.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by spire3661 · 2012-11-20 04:30 · Score: 0

I was out the other day using Apple maps and on the map were some yelp reviews. So i click on one, which opens the app store asking me to install the yelp app. I wanted to scream at the yelp apps " REALLY? you couldnt just pop open Safari??????????? You want me to install and load up your app, while in the field, just to get a couple of lines of text?????? Just use the fucking browser if the app isnt on the device, all they did was make me never want to use yelp again.

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Article Summary by Andrewkov · 2012-11-20 04:30 · Score: 1

Hello everyone! The new Microsoft Surface is wonderful! It's one of My Favorite Things(tm)! Everyone should buy one!

Your friend;
Oprah

-Sent from my iPad

"sec-re-tary" by westlake · 2012-11-20 04:34 · Score: 1

Definition of SECRETARY

1

: one employed to handle correspondence and manage routine and detail work for a superior

secretary

Definition of SLASHDOT

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Fox News For Nerds

Plausable explanation by advantis · 2012-11-20 04:46 · Score: 1

My guess is that she picked up an iPad, she liked it, but thought it was a Surface (a staffer is laughing on the floor in a closet right now), and tweeted that crap (directly, or via intern/secretary), and she'll go like "WTF is this shit?" when she receives her real Surface order later on. Don't attribute to malice (or shilling) what can be explained by stupidity or somesuch, right? It could have been more than speculation if she specified that she tweeted from her Surface, so I wouldn't have to write this at all.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by MouseTheLuckyDog · 2012-11-20 05:15 · Score: 2

What?

Microsoft is doing everything it can to prevent users from replacing the Win 8 on their devices.

Oh wait. I see your logic...
yeah of course it will be easier to hack.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bennomatic · 2012-11-20 05:16 · Score: 1

Nice. I have a nice article with pretty pictures, too.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 05:36 · Score: 0

I doubt Oprah posts these herself. More likely her assistant posted it for her.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by lister+king+of+smeg · 2012-11-20 06:09 · Score: 1

i would but there aren't that many gnu/linux/x11 tablets on the market with descent specs

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bickerdyke · 2012-11-20 06:17 · Score: 1

Android has a *nix base..... and the rest is OS independant "in" "the" "cloud".

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by ericloewe · 2012-11-20 06:30 · Score: 1

Anything with Ultrabook (maybe even Netbook) hardware is capable of being more than a tablet.

That means Windows (not RT), or maybe a suitable Linux distro in more limited cases.

The day I saw... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 06:43 · Score: 0

the name "Britney Spears" on digg's headlines, was the day I knew I should abandon digg.

Seems the same time has come for Slashdot. Been here since 1999.

It was nice.

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 06:44 · Score: 0

Yes, apple has a larger profit share than the others, which is both unsurprising and unrelated to what the gp said.

Maybe... by sootman · 2012-11-20 06:48 · Score: 1

... she had to because Twitter are becoming complete assholes and the only decent Metro Twitter app no longer works because it hit its limit.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 06:57 · Score: 0

Forgeef mai brahthur, hee's eh... not no smart...

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by BitZtream · 2012-11-20 07:20 · Score: 1

Android has a GNU/Linux base. Linux is not UNIX. UNIX is a specification that you can't just arbitrarly apply to your clone to make you feel better about yourself. Your clone doesn't meet the UNIX specification, intentionally according to Linus.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Reverand+Dave · 2012-11-20 07:50 · Score: 1

Apple sells overpriced shiny garbage manufactured by slave labor so of course they have a higher profit margin, but that has nothing to do with market share. So while you may have pretty pictures, you obviously are lacking a coherent argument. Good day sir.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by Reverand+Dave · 2012-11-20 07:55 · Score: 1

Way to come out and fight for your cause AC. If in fact, the claim of

A personal computer may be a desktop computer or a laptop, tablet, or a handheld PC.

Then the numbers are still in my favor.

Skate to where the puck will be not where it is.

No one was arguing about the future numbers, we're talking about the present and with roughly 41% of all computational devices running a windows base OS, then obviously the claim of apple dominance of the market patently false. If you're only defense is to resort to personal attack and hurt feelings then I'm obviously not the one with a problem here.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by aristotle-dude · 2012-11-20 07:59 · Score: 1

I'd get the one matching my desktop OS

Windows 8 != Windows RT. Windows 8 can run windows apps whereas Windows RT can only run third party WinNT apps. MS Office is the exception but that is a Microsoft product.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bickerdyke · 2012-11-20 08:26 · Score: 1

That's not the point.
Common data formats and apis are important.

I'd bet that whatever App WinRT and Windows8 use for e.g. calendar, the event form will have matching fields.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bickerdyke · 2012-11-20 08:28 · Score: 1

But commonly *nix refers to a wide range of OSes.

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Giving a fuck by manaway · 2012-11-20 08:58 · Score: 1

That doesn't mean she should be given carte blanche to tell bold faced lies to the people her words do effect.

I think you misunderstand modern marketing techniques, of which she is a famously notable expert.

It is our duty as technical experts to counterract that, to not tell lies. Which leads to awkward situations where a client's social learning is confronted with fact-based expertise. Requiring tact, patience, and some teaching skills if you want a better informed client. Same as when you go to a patent attorney, doctor, mechanic, accountant, or other expert after reading Slashdot discussions about their field.

Re:Giving a fuck by Anonymous Coward · 2012-11-20 10:38 · Score: 0

a client's social learning is confronted with fact-based expertise.
Having written many of the highly rated and, at least to me, lexically interesting AC comments in this thread today (I was at work and couldn't log in), I must confess to an almost obsessive penchant for witty turns of phrase. I'm really digging what I quoted from you. I can see it now, right as Obnoxiously Boring Co-Worker Du Jour winds up to launch into the 56th monologue of legendary yak shaving, I bust out with with the Little Boy of consummate bullshit deflation. It might sound something like, "You see, dear post-menopausal tragically pear-shaped person we henceforth called simply Alice, while I oft marvel at the sublime verisimilitude permeating my feigned interest a perfectly mimicked facsimile indistinguishable from an interested party, riveted, spellbound, hanging on every word of your excruciatingly, disgustingly, described anecdotes, Hours frittered away poring over the most ephemeral minutia of your chihuahua's heroic albeit futile struggle with the dreaded Parvo, In the interest of maintaining the vestigial remnants of my own "sanity" that just one more day self-control can stand strong between what has been and what has become the inevitable result of a mind letting go. When as if by their own volition, hands rise up in a single violent motion, fingers tensed, wrapping around the faceless disembodied neck until the hands deliver the only true mercy they can give. The infinite dreamless sleep. I require a special indulgence today. Having conferred with my esteemed Slashdot colleagues, and taking their uncharacteristically unanimous opinions in this regard under advisement, I have decided that, as will be reflected in official policy going forward, effective immediately, all future interactions in excess of my personal and entirely arbitrary proximity tolerance and facial observance, e.g., if I can see you, threshold shall be regarded as perpetual and irrevocable consent to ego deconstruction followed by methodical reintegration via atomic polyfurcation via discrete and select confrontation of your social learning with a little fact-based expertise. I repeat, Fact-Based Expertise. Now relax, this won't hurt a bit." Ha! I love it.

There are actually some decent Win8 twitter apps by elabs · 2012-11-20 10:40 · Score: 1

I don't know why the staffers didn't tweet from the Surface itself. I guess they weren't in on the giveaway.

Windows 8 RT User Study by YaddaMinski · 2012-11-21 09:22 · Score: 1

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html

Re:Surface iOS Bridge by swflint · 2012-11-26 02:52 · Score: 1

The ZaReason ZaTab will sooner or later.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bennomatic · 2012-11-26 11:02 · Score: 1

The point of the GP's post was that MS's hegemony would continue unabated. Considering the point of a public company is to generate profits, well, the charts provided by him/her only present a part of the picture. I remember when HP's tablet had a fire sale, going for a loss at $99, and people said even then that this was a signal of the coming end of the iPad, because so many people were willing to buy a failed product once the price was low enough.

I'm all for raw numbers, but context does help.

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Re:Surface iOS Bridge by bennomatic · 2012-11-26 11:13 · Score: 1

Part of a "market" in the context of capitalism is the money that flows from that market. So profit shares are indeed an important factor. This is all I'm saying. I'm not saying that MS won't continue to succeed, I'm not saying that Android is doomed. I'm not saying that Apple couldn't eventually fall to some yet-unknown black swan. However, the race to the bottom in terms of margins didn't play out well for several PC makers in the long run, so to suggest that entering a nascent market with razor thing margins in order to push units is a winning plan is, well, ignoring history.

And as to you other "points":
- Slave labor: Agreed, although it's not any different from that of their competitors, so to argue that this is a factor in their success is silly.
- Shiny: Sure. And many of their competitors sell shiny products as well. For the record, though, the newest iPhone has a matte finish for most of its surface.
- Overpriced: If it were overpriced, by definition, it wouldn't sell. Sure I'd like to have everything for free, but in a capitalist system, manufacturers get to charge what the market will bear.
- Garbage: You have every right to believe that hundreds of millions of users of iOS devices and Macs are stupid or delusional, but you just might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong. Apple's products may not fit your needs, or you may not like them for various objective and subjective reasons, but if they were truly garbage, the products would not continue to sell. Remember the Microsoft Kin Phone? That had some potential, and the idea was cool. But they were crap, and poorly timed at that, so the line failed and was cancelled within weeks of its debut. You just can't fool this many people for this many years. But I'm sure you know that.

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