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Australian Prime Minister's Spoof "Apocalypse" Speech Goes Viral In China

brindafella writes "Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, recorded a spoof speech about the Mayan calendar apocalypse several days ago, for radio station "Triple J". Gillard said in part, 'Whether the final blow comes from flesh eating zombies, demonic hell beasts or from the total triumph of K-pop, if you know one thing about me it is this: I will always fight for you to the very end.' The speech has been picked up in China on Sina Weibo (China's Twitter) and has achieved well over 23,000 repeats, without anyone picking up the irony." This comes on the heels of the online version of China's Communist Party newspaper picking up an Onion story about North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un being named the "Sexiest Man Alive."

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  1. stupid people by pbjones · · Score: 2

    it was also play on a different date, 7-12-12.

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    1. Re:Stupid People by Spottywot · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe you.

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    2. Re:Stupid People by Nyder · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe you.

      And you should because I posted it on the interwebs.

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    3. Re:Stupid People by blane.bramble · · Score: 1

      I read it on teh interwebs, so it must be

    4. Re:Stupid People by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I read that most of the stuff on the web'z is absolute garbage, but I didn't believe it.

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    5. Re:Stupid People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln

    6. Re:stupid people by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      No – it was 2005 years ago – give or take a few days for the Georgian calendar conversion.

    7. Re:stupid people by Bigby · · Score: 1

      It is actually 100 years into the future. Stupid Y2.1K bug...

  2. K-pop? by Platinumrat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then the apocalypse is already upon us and I for one welcome our Korean overloads.

    1. Re:K-pop? by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

      Op, op op, OP is correct.

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    2. Re:K-pop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I for one would rather have the hell beasts. After all, every once in a while you get a succubus.

    3. Re:K-pop? by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 5, Informative

      Korean pop has been called K-pop (and Japanese pop called J-pop) long before Gangnam Style was a twinkle in PSY's sunglasses.

    4. Re:K-pop? by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

      Korean pop has been called K-pop (and Japanese pop called J-pop) long before Gangnam Style was a twinkle in PSY's sunglasses.

      I'd missed all that... probably down to my age. I also can't hear the words! :D

    5. Re:K-pop? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Is there such a thing as S-pop, and if so, where does it come from?

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    6. Re:K-pop? by C0R1D4N · · Score: 1

      Well Chinese Pop is called C-Pop but if you wanted to get all Victorian in this hizzouse you could call it Sino-Pop or S-Pop I suppose.

    7. Re:K-pop? by 1u3hr · · Score: 2

      You have Mandopop on the mainland and Taiwan and Cantopop in Hong Kong. Never heard either called C-pop. Both equally vapid and dominated by pretty boy/girl singers and bands.

    8. Re:K-pop? by tenco · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome our Korean overloads.

      ... Gundam style.

    9. Re:K-pop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's Kopi-Luwak-pop. Made with caffeine extracted from coffee beans pooped by civets. True story.

    10. Re:K-pop? by ThirdPrize · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean big japanese robots prancing around as if they were riding a horse? That I would like to see.

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    11. Re:K-pop? by nevillethedevil · · Score: 2
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    12. Re:K-pop? by hierophanta · · Score: 1

      'Shit-Pop' the North America has a corner on the market

    13. Re:K-pop? by mrsquid0 · · Score: 1

      Canadian pop would be pop-can.

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    14. Re:K-pop? by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      That the hell did I just watch?

      More importantly, why did I watch three other videos of this Gangnam thing before I realised what I was doing? I need to go lie down.

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    15. Re:K-pop? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Oh christ just the thought makes me bored. What do they do, sing about their homework and fantastic marks?

    16. Re:K-pop? by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      Don't you dare talk about our Prime Minister that way!

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    17. Re:K-pop? by tenco · · Score: 1

      Didn't expect that comment :)

      Was more interested in the "overlords = evil; 'greet' with superior firepower"-angle (and try to make a wordplay out of it), but ok :)

  3. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I personally can't wait until North korea finally gets this news and starts the widespread news about a flesh eating zombie outbreak in Australia.

    1. Re:Well by Cryacin · · Score: 1

      At least they won't go Gang Nam Style

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  4. Stupid People by Nyder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    will believe anything on the interwebs.

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  5. Shit by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why did nobody tell me demonic hell beasts were an option. Why am I always last to get the memo? I'm all geared up for zombies, vampires, ice ages, meteorite strikes, pandemics and alien invasions. Now I have to go study Alice Cooper videos for vulnerabilities. Is salt good or is that just ghosts? Damn!

    1. Re:Shit by ciderbrew · · Score: 4, Informative

      Too much salt will make you a ghost and or zombie. High blood pressure is a killer!

    2. Re:Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, demonic tentacled hell beasts only go for the cute schoolgirls.

    3. Re:Shit by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry. Demonic hell beasts are handled like fast zombies. Firepower is key. Just don't rely on your anti-zombie shotguns. You want armor piercing capability. Minor upgrade to your gear, no big thing. Wait, don't you have at least one M82 for anti-alien action?? I thought you were prepared...

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    4. Re:Shit by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait, don't you have at least one M82 for anti-alien action?? I thought you were prepared...

      Please, my shit is next gen. I've got a powerbook running windows 95 on a virtual PC that I left exposed to the internet for a couple of days.

      Welcome to earth!

    5. Re:Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      What makes you think Intrepid imaginaut is not a cute schoolgirl.

    6. Re:Shit by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

      Pentagrams or other religious symbols tend to work against demonic hell beasts. I advice against using Alice Cooper videos as a reference, go for Ghostbusters or Buffy if you are desperate.

      <hng mode="desperate">I'd go for Buffy any time!</hng>

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    7. Re:Shit by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Shotguns vs. demons, shotguns win.

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    8. Re:Shit by azalin · · Score: 2

      Id Software released several training simulations with this topic quite a while ago. I guess them to be at the very least as enlightening as Mr. Cooper.

    9. Re:Shit by gman003 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But you're completely ignoring the variety of special strengths and weaknesses demons have. You can't just treat them like a subtype of zombie.

      For instance, zombies are generally flammable, and can be dispatched en masse with a flamethrower. Demonic hellbeasts, however, regularly withstand immense temperatures (theologians agree that Hell normally maintains a temperature of 666 degrees, although there is disagreement as to whether this is Celsius or Fahrenheit). Likewise, you should avoid incendiary ammunition, WP grenades, napalm, etc. for similar reasons.

      However, they also have certain vulnerabilities. Like vampires, they are vulnerable to religious symbols and holy water (although contrary to popular belief, demons have a non-denominational hatred of religion - even your Pastafarian symbols should work). And like lawyers, they can be bound by contracts, although (like lawyers) they generally get the better end of the deal.

    10. Re:Shit by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      Salt is good for setting up a barrier against evil spirits.

      However, I have found a BFG 9000 a better offensive weapon.

    11. Re:Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Don't cross the IOStreams, you'll get a buffer overflow".

    12. Re:Shit by 3.1415926535 · · Score: 1

      *Salt*?? Everyone knows you destroy ghosts with root beer.

    13. Re:Shit by Quince+alPillan · · Score: 1

      So now we know where Skynet started.

    14. Re:Shit by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I bet windows 95 is pretty secure again, though links may give a more up to date internet experience

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    15. Re:Shit by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      with her plaid skirt, sailor shirt, bobby socks, and five o'clock shadow

      Sounds good. Where shall I send the airfare so you can visit me?

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    16. Re:Shit by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      The scholarly treatment of the subject matter is very much appreciated. However, it just reinforces my point. Stand-off and armor piercing. Take them out at a 1000 yards and live the last days of the apocalypse in a relaxed manner, as a gentleman should ;)

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    17. Re:Shit by socceroos · · Score: 1

      Get it right fella. All you need is a macbook of some description. From there you should be able to hack into any alien technology in a couple of keystrokes. May need someone to drop off the virus, though.

  6. Sarcasm by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just like a sufficiently advanced parody can't be distinguished from a zealot, sarcasm doesn't translate. I'm sure they thought it funny and entertaining, but for completely different reasons than intended.

    1. Re:Sarcasm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      From my experience working with Chinese people, and I don't mean people of Chinese decent, but actually born, raised and lived in China most of their lives; they don't get sarcasm. Most of them, anyway. They don't.

      My boss is Chinese, and will stare blankly when I make a sarcastic remark about something, and most of the Chinese people around me are the same. They just have a different sense of humor, I guess it's a cultural thing. ...and it's not like I can write [SARCASM] on a notebook and hold it up like a sign. They won't get the reference either.

    2. Re:Sarcasm by alphatel · · Score: 1

      Apparently backlinks don't translate either. The link to the sexiest man alive article at huffpost doesn't even include a linkback to the original onion spoof.

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    3. Re:Sarcasm by saihung · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the usual sense of humor revolves around stuff like slapstick and wordplay. Sarcasm and satire aren't understood.

    4. Re:Sarcasm by mjr167 · · Score: 1

      Humor in general doesn't translate very well. Even between Americans and Brits and we speak the same language (more or less) and have similar cultural roots. Yes, we have a lot of common humor, but we still find different things funny. Simply look at how British TV shows are modified when ported to the US.

      Asians and Americans have entirely different cultural roots and languages that aren't related in the slightest. I'm sure there are tons of stuff they think is hysterical and we just don't get it.

    5. Re:Sarcasm by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      Just like a sufficiently advanced parody can't be distinguished from a zealot, sarcasm doesn't translate. I'm sure they thought it funny and entertaining, but for completely different reasons than intended.

      Yes, much like a sufficiently advanced ploy to discredit the intelect of the western world can't be distinguished from clueless Chinese reporters...

    6. Re:Sarcasm by Imbrondir · · Score: 1

      Not so sure about that. Perhaps they just weren't sufficiently comfortable with English. I met a girl from Hong Kong once, that was essentially the master of sarcasm. She had lived a few years in the US though. Another one living all her life Guangzhou also understood it well.

      But in my experience people with an intermediate English level mostly seems to reacts they way you mentioned. Not just sarcasm but with most humour.

    7. Re:Sarcasm by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      >sarcasm doesn't translate

      In this case there was nothing to translate. TIL that you can be goofy without being funny.

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    8. Re:Sarcasm by mikael · · Score: 1

      I've worked with people like that, and some of my relatives don't understand satire. They can understand something like "given how crowded our trains already are, introduction of third class tickets could only involve passengers hanging off the sides or sitting on the roof". But something like, "One day, Alice was walking back through the forest with a picnic basket full of sugar cubes for Dougal, when she met a couple of soldiers standing guard by the bridge. He said 'The king had instructed us to stand guard here, as a lot of sugar cubes have started to go missing. Have you seen anyone stealing sugar cubes?". "Oh no, haven't seen anyone." said Alice and walked across the bridge."

      They didn't understand what point that was making, the soldiers being unable to stop theft.

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    9. Re:Sarcasm by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Alice herself was stealing the sugar cubes?

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    10. Re:Sarcasm by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      That's not true. Do you actually speak Chinese, or did you just hear that it's a tonal language and make large (and incorrect) leaps from there?

      For another, sarcasm written in English does not include tones, and the sarcasm we are talking about here was written. If sarcasm *requires* tones, how does sarcasm work in written English?

  7. Shout out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bravo for the rare politician today willing to demonstrate some humour and humanity :). Can I get the hotline number in case those zombies show up?

    1. Re:Shout out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean karma whore for the youth vote? Politicians are karma whores first and foremost.

  8. A spoof by, not of, the leader by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is on a different level from the Onion spoofs of world leaders like Obama or Kim Jung'Un. This is the real Australian Prime Minister doing the spoof. US presidents have been known to pardon Thanksgiving turkeys and part of running for public office in any democratic country is to show your "lighter side" in front of the media, but Gillard's "speech" goes beyond the realm of a simple practical joke. That or the producers of the show have done some nifty CGI work worthy of a Hollywood disaster movie.

    1. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by dwywit · · Score: 3, Informative

      No - it was definitely her. I mean, "Brave" was pretty good, but I've yet to see a female ranga with a broad Aussie accent successfully rendered on a computer.
       
      And Gillard's got enough of a sense of humour to do this. Actually, some of our other PMs have said/done some funny things - Hawke's "bum" comment when we won the America's Cup, Howard's ability to take "The Chaser" on the chin - whatever else you thought of him, he kept on going for his morning jog, knowing they'd be waiting for him.

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    2. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't forget Julie Bishop's effort in outstaring a garden gnome.

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    3. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

      - United States President Ronald Reagan

    4. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by dwywit · · Score: 1

      Oh god yes - she's such a national treasure. Any politician, no matter what else I think of them, gets a bonus point for being prepared to look silly on national TV. Intentionally silly, that is. Not when spouting party policies. And Barnaby Joyce just makes my day whenever I see him giving a sound bite. I can't tell whether he's a master troll or just an idiot, and that's not sarcasm - I've actually heard some well-reasoned words escape his lips.
       
      Offtopic - anyone surprised about the outcome of the Peter Slipper court case?

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    5. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      To me Joyce seems like the broken watch of politics: for two seconds a day he's spot on, for the other 84,398 he's wrong in so many ways. Whether it's deliberate or just a result of living in rural Queensland too long is hard to say.

      No surprise with the Slipper case, and we're going to hear a lot about press releases and timestamps over the next few days.

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    6. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by Teancum · · Score: 1

      I take it that you've never seen an episode of Saturday Night Live? They've had several prominent politicians on that show including several presidential candidates and I believe a sitting U.S. President.

      That doesn't even get into movies like Contact that featured Bill Clinton announcing the discovery of an extra-terrestrial radio signal coming from the Vega star system. Yes, I do know what the press conference that Bill Clinton was responding to was actually about (and just as nuts) but that doesn't stop stuff like that from being used either.

      This kind of thing is hardly new, much less something to condemn a sitting Prime Minister of any country for having some fun.

    7. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      If the end of the world involves the Weeping Angels, I want her with me.

    8. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Fair call, typo on my part.

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    9. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Me too. I'm pretty sure I can run faster than she can.

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    10. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by mjwx · · Score: 1

      This is on a different level from the Onion spoofs of world leaders like Obama or Kim Jung'Un. This is the real Australian Prime Minister doing the spoof. US presidents have been known to pardon Thanksgiving turkeys and part of running for public office in any democratic country is to show your "lighter side" in front of the media, but Gillard's "speech" goes beyond the realm of a simple practical joke. That or the producers of the show have done some nifty CGI work worthy of a Hollywood disaster movie.

      Not in Australia.

      Gillard has something of a public image problem and in the election comming up next year she was trying to show her "larrikin" side to win hearts and minds. People in Australia have seen this as nothing more than a joke but that does require _some_ understanding of Gillards character (typically very dry) and a sense of humour... arguably something many nations lack.

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    11. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Offtopic - anyone surprised about the outcome of the Peter Slipper court case?

      nope

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    12. Re:A spoof by, not of, the leader by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      I'm so disinterested in australian politics that I pay my non-voting fines rather than turn up but I saw this clip on a website and was impressed. The root poster is right; this is on another level - it's the bravest, funniest thing I've seen any recent world leader do.

      In other words, you participate in destabilising democracy.

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  9. Humour and irony by gagol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it something lacking in Asia, or just in dictatorship?

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    1. Re:Humour and irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Living in China, I found that people here really don't seem to know about irony. They just don't use it and therefore don't notice it. At least that's what I got from the various misunderstandings I've expererienced. I found that being true for Koreans and Malaysians as well, so it might be applicable to whole East Asia.

    2. Re:Humour and irony by gagol · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thank you for your enlightning answer.

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    3. Re:Humour and irony by scottrocket · · Score: 1

      Thank you for your enlightning answer.

      Shocking. On a brighter note: All hail Cthulu, lord of the netherdark.

    4. Re:Humour and irony by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Living in China, I found that people here really don't seem to know about irony. They just don't use it and therefore don't notice it. At least that's what I got from the various misunderstandings I've expererienced. I found that being true for Koreans and Malaysians as well, so it might be applicable to whole East Asia.

      I hate to tell you this, but all over Europe it is well known that Americans don't understand irony.

      No, it isn't anything like silvery or coppery....

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    5. Re:Humour and irony by Platinumrat · · Score: 2
      Actually, I spent a lot of time in Taiwan, Thailand and Indonesia and can say that following is my experience:

      a) Chinese generally don't get sarcasm, except those brought up abroad

      b) Indonesians sometimes understand it, but seem to think more about the next meal

      c) Thais live for Sarcasm. They do it so well, you can't tell sometimes.

    6. Re:Humour and irony by Kergan · · Score: 1

      No, it isn't anything like silvery or coppery....

      British humor at its best. Love it. :-)

    7. Re:Humour and irony by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      Is it something lacking in Asia, or just in dictatorship?

      This was on the Chinese version of Twitter. Do you think the western version is any less credulous and ready to fall for hoaxes and rumours?

      Also, China isn't really a dictatorship any more, though it's also along way from democracy.

    8. Re:Humour and irony by invid · · Score: 2

      Part of the problem for Americans catching irony or sarcasm is that so many American's believe such a wide variety of crazy things it's hard sometimes to know if they are joking. For instance, if you knew me and heard me say, "Obama's raising taxes because he's a secret Muslim," you would know that I was joking. However, if you knew I was an American but didn't know me personally, it's entirely possible that I was being serious. We have to look for extra cues to see if someone is being serious or not, because in America you never know what someone actually believes.

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    9. Re:Humour and irony by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      so not understanding your culture's particular brand of humor is now seen as a way to look down on other people's culture

      here we have mostly americans snickering that the chinese don't get australian irony, and along comes a european saying the same about americans not getting british irony

      what a pointless circlejerk

      i await the chinese guy to show up and snicker that those silly europeans just don't get irony

      in other words, this entire thread is a crapfest of snugness and superiority

      an example of chinese subversive humor i just remembered off the top of my head:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKx1aenJK08

      what you don't get it? you barbarians and your lack of humor

      seriously, this entire thread pisses me off. it's blind stupid ethnocentric condescension. you all suck, you're a bunch of useless western douchebags, seriously

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu_10_Mythical_Creatures

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    10. Re:Humour and irony by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hate to tell you this, but all over Europe it is well known that Americans don't understand irony.

      No, it isn't anything like silvery or coppery....

      I hate to tell you this, but all over the U.S.A. it is well known that Europeans are prone to over-generalizing when it comes to Americans.

    11. Re:Humour and irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That because humor not funny! It distract greatly from work and bring great shame to family. You big Mr. Funny Man now, but you lose focus and get A- in school! You bring great dishonor to ancestors!

    12. Re:Humour and irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      actually,

      It's like good advice when you're already Late

      (think about it)

    13. Re:Humour and irony by Guppy · · Score: 1

      No, it isn't anything like silvery or coppery....

      Of course, even the most ignorant dung gatherer knows it's more like like goldy and bronzy.

    14. Re:Humour and irony by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 1

      Parent post was apparently moderated by people in Asia ;-)

    15. Re:Humour and irony by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      I hate to tell you this, but all over Europe it is well known that Americans don't understand irony.

      No, it isn't anything like silvery or coppery....

      I hate to tell you this, but all over the U.S.A. it is well known that Europeans are prone to over-generalizing when it comes to Americans.

      Sounds fair, since all over the world it is well known that Americans are prone to over-generalizing when it comes to non-Americans...

      (Wait, were we going for sarcasm, irony, or serious?)

    16. Re:Humour and irony by tg123 · · Score: 1

      so not understanding your culture's particular brand of humor is now seen as a way to look down on other people's culture

      ...

      seriously, this entire thread pisses me off. it's blind stupid ethnocentric condescension. you all suck, you're a bunch of useless western douchebags, seriously..../p

      ummm dude the video of Australia PM ... it's meant to be funny.

      In fact it's absolutely hilarious.

      The stuff about "ethnocentric condescension" have you been taking your "medication" lately?

      Maybe you need to talk to your "doctor" about that seriously.

    17. Re:Humour and irony by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Homophones and plays on words are hardly unique to China. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI

      Of course people who don't know Chinese or have the context of internet censorship aren't going to get the joke.

      You're making up the looking down and condescension, it'd just a discussion of how people from different cultures are different. It might be incorrect, people could have the wrong impressions entirely, but it isn't condescending. But of course you will see it that way, it's your normal bias.

    18. Re:Humour and irony by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      Sounds fair, since all over the world it is well known that Americans are prone to over-generalizing when it comes to non-Americans...

      (Wait, were we going for sarcasm, irony, or serious?)

      Yes. :)

    19. Re:Humour and irony by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      More importantly, why talk about Obama at all if you're not an American?
      As an American, I've always wondered why anyone else in the world bothers with out politics.
      Yes, I know the whole spiel on "What he does affects everyone", blah blah blah, but if I wasn't from the US I'd avoid US politics as much as possible.
      Just for reference, I'm NOT being sarcastic. or ironic.

    20. Re:Humour and irony by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      what a pointless circlejerk

      is it like, circlejerksquare?

      seriously, this entire thread pisses me off. it's blind stupid ethnocentric condescension. you all suck, you're a bunch of useless western douchebags, seriously

      Yeah, But At Least We Know When To Capitalise Letters, ironically.

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  10. What I would like to know... by Balinares · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I would like to know is how often we mistakenly take foreign news at face value.

    It can be so hard to read the cues from a different culture.I wonder if that has been studied?

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    1. Re:What I would like to know... by somersault · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hmm.. could be that all that stuff about the Great Firewall is just a practical joke. And North Korea is actually a real paradise with real unicorns. They just pretend to be a horrible, insane dictatorship to keep us out..

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    2. Re:What I would like to know... by peragrin · · Score: 1

      So the mine field and walls are to prevent poachers from getting to the unicorns? Like jurassic park should have been defended?

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    3. Re:What I would like to know... by abies · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I would like to know is how often we mistakenly take foreign news at face value.

      I know plenty of people who are still treating thousands years old news in Aramaic at face value.

    4. Re:What I would like to know... by somersault · · Score: 2

      Sure.. poachers, tourists, IP lawyers, that kind of thing.

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    5. Re:What I would like to know... by invid · · Score: 1

      We do it with the Iranians all the time. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is really just a popular comedian in Iran. Calling the United States the Great Satan and all this talk about nuclear bombs is just wry humor. Just listen to what he says about Israel and about homosexuality. The Iranians are really confused about the lack of laughter when he comes to America for his comedy tours.

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  11. Erm.. by philmarcracken · · Score: 5, Funny

    As an aussie. This was not funny the first time. And not funny the second on /.

    Im just glad she listened to the right people when it comes to fiber.

    1. Re:Erm.. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Im just glad she listened to the right people when it comes to fiber.

      Indeed, the last thing you want is a constipated PM.

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    2. Re:Erm.. by In+hydraulis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As an Aussie, you misspelled "fibre."

    3. Re:Erm.. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      There's a current politician who isn't?

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    4. Re:Erm.. by imroy · · Score: 2

      Ironically, you also mispelt "mispelt".

    5. Re:Erm.. by In+hydraulis · · Score: 2
    6. Re:Erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not true (alternative form), but ironically you did.

  12. I must remind everyone... by PhilDEE · · Score: 1
    1. Re:I must remind everyone... by gagol · · Score: 1

      I would not eat those plants ;-)

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  13. And the scariest part is... by FerretallicA · · Score: 2

    ...this isn't even remotely the craziest thing the witch has managed to convince people of as fact.

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    1. Re:And the scariest part is... by imroy · · Score: 2

      Ah, an Alan Jones listener?

  14. 23,000 repeats by lucmove · · Score: 5, Insightful

    23,000 repeats shouldn't mean much in China.

  15. Hehehehe, joking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You apparently never lived in totalitarian regime :D At least your total cluelessness suggests :D
    I would say that people in "genuine democratic countries" are several times more easily fooled by media (or government) than people that have to filter the pieces of truth from streams of propaganda as part of their lifes.

    1. Re:Hehehehe, joking? by brezel · · Score: 2

      it really depends. the czechs and slovaks used to be under a totalitarian russian regime and they have a very intelligent and subtle sense of humor and they pick up small humorous nuances, that lots of people from other countries wouldn't even get.

      then there's the germans who, though having been free people for quite some time, basically have absolutely no subtleness in their humor. everything is outspoken and nothing is left unsaid. austria is directly next to germany and austrians have an extremely playful and ironic sense of humor but the overall mentality of the country is completely different to germany.

      i think, that the regime plays a big role, but IMO the social environment is at least as important. people who are very organized and devoted to their leaders or their work tend not to develop a sense of humor, where irony and unsaid things are understood.

    2. Re:Hehehehe, joking? by gagol · · Score: 1

      If I am not mistaken, this is an austrian ad. We studied it in marketing. It is my favourite to this day! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nQ9lmriWOc&playnext=1&list=PLD6D9360E7688D8F0&feature=results_main

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    3. Re:Hehehehe, joking? by brezel · · Score: 1

      nope, these guys are dutch :>

    4. Re:Hehehehe, joking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I probably over-generalized. But I was speaking specifically about politicians in authority and public perceptions of them. I think there are wide swaths of people in totalitarian regimes that pretty much buy the party line. If they didn't, then the regime probably isn't going to last for long. Whereas in most democratic countries people are naturally very skeptical about any politician regardless of who they are or what they are doing. Yes, of course people can *always* be gullible, and politicians are well-practiced in trying to fool people regardless of whether or not they are in a totalitarian regime. But even with that skill, the default perception of authority is pretty different in a democratic country versus a totalitarian one, unless the latter is just about to collapse. I think in a lot of totalitarian regimes it might not even cross people's minds that the leader of the country could be joking. Usually dictators have to maintain a public image that is full-time serious in order to keep their hold on power, so it might not occur to people that they were having a bit of fun.

    5. Re:Hehehehe, joking? by gagol · · Score: 1

      At least I got the continent right!

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  16. aussie pm isn't the only one by etash · · Score: 4, Funny

    medvedev also recently trolled a bit, in a seemingly "i don't know i'm off camera" moment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo

    1. Re:aussie pm isn't the only one by pinfall · · Score: 2

      I bet what happened is some aussie DJs calledd the country that Kim Jong was staying at and after learning of the spoof the whole country committed suicide.

    2. Re:aussie pm isn't the only one by alphatel · · Score: 1

      I bet what happened is some aussie DJs calledd the country that Kim Jong was staying at and after learning of the spoof the whole country committed suicide.

      I bet that's what you wanted to happen.

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  17. Re:How 'bout them Aussie's, eh? by dbIII · · Score: 2

    There's a good point there though about the radio bullshit even if the poster got nationalities mixed up. Imagine a far right beyond the point of insanity, gay (yes despite the far right bit), woman hating, xenophobic suspected pedophile (rumoured to be quietly kicked out of several jobs as a teacher for that reason) that deliberately stirs up race riots and you've got what the leading "shock jock" in Australia appears to be. The pedophilla is just a string of yet unproven rumours since they tended to just move teachers on in those days at the first sign of suspicion (such as naked locker room antics with the football team which may have been innocent and may have been all that happened), but what comes out of his mouth is bad enough, and his political connections would make him untouchable perhaps even if it is true. So the message is put out there that truly vile and evil sells (even if he isn't really so evil) and it gets copied by others that want good ratings. Do we really need enough of a "shock" to stir up race riots, or on that other station, drive somebody to suicide with a pointless prank (let alone truly vile stuff from Kyle Sandilands from that same station that could have driven two other women to suicide if they were as fragile - joking about an underage girl's rape experience in front of them is going too far IMHO).

  18. Copying without thinking by e065c8515d206cb0e190 · · Score: 1

    Luckily this is something that happens only with news stories.

  19. Great wall of by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

    So basically, when it comes to the internet, China is like my nan?

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  20. Who is missing whose sarcasm? by guanxi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Humor can be hard to translate. Maybe instead of the Chinese speakers missing the Aussie's sarcasm, it's visa-versa.

    1. Re:Who is missing whose sarcasm? by brindafella · · Score: 1

      Humor can be hard to translate. Maybe instead of the Chinese speakers missing the Aussie's sarcasm, it's visa-versa.

      The article I originally quoted in my submitted story was by a Western-aware Chinese journalist based in China, who reflected on how the Chinese had missed the irony/humour in Gillard's speech.

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    2. Re:Who is missing whose sarcasm? by guanxi · · Score: 1

      Being a native speaker of English, I understand the subtext of your statement to be: RTFA :)

      My apologies. Someone should mod down my above statement.

  21. Don't make fun of China - Fox depends on this, too by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

    Don't make fun of China, 'cuz Fox depends on people making the exact same assumption to get away with their bovine scat: "If it wasn't true, they wouldn't be allowed to say it."

    When your government lets you down, you're a prime candidate to join the march of the lemmings.

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  22. Re:Don't make fun of China - Fox depends on this, by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

    Useful to China, by the way - when the news spreads that it was just a spoof, it in turn spreads "Western journalism is all lies, and only Chinese journalism is trustworthy.". Between China's superior manipulations at home and their ally in News Corp abroad, they're winning on the propaganda front.

    Quite obviously they've honed playing the greed of the West's few to a fine art, and so are far, far ahead on the industrial infrastructure/defense arsenal and financial fronts.

    It's been sad to watch, really...like watching Confucius pick on Western kindergartners.

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  23. Re:How 'bout them Aussie's, eh? by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    I don't know. From my point of view, both pairs of groups have more in common than not.

  24. but you shouldn't by nten · · Score: 1

    You shouldn't believe him, he is lying.

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  25. Our Monsters Over Time by assertation · · Score: 2

    When I was a kid there were many articles about how the increased number of UFO sightings was due in part to the anxiety of the Cold War and the bomb.

    These days it isn't enough to have a simple apocalyptic movie/show with almost everyone dead. It isn't enough to have survivors battling mutants. Now, the survivors have escape walking corpses.

    It would be interesting to read something about the unconscious hook zombie apocalypses have on us.

    1. Re:Our Monsters Over Time by DirtyLiar · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting to read something about the unconscious hook zombie apocalypses have on us.

      Easy.

      All apocolypse fiction / fantasy is about dissatisfaction with the real world and how it works. It's about breaking down society and starting fresh. It's about second chances.

      When I grew up it used to be Nuclear Apocolypse burning the world's sin clean. Then it was technology that destroyed us and our sinful ways. Or just ate us. Now it's themindless dead returning to consume our world.

      And, of course there arre the religious versions, be them Christian or Mayan or whatever.

      OUR facination with apocolypse, as I said, speaks to widespread dissatisfaction with our society, it's lack of justice and fareness, it's admiration and promotion of sociopaths, it's inharent injustice, it's dehumanization of the individual, it's open hostility to criticism, ect.

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  26. Doomsday Pie..... Mmmm! by dahl_ag · · Score: 1

    Well, any time there is an apocalypse story, I have to post a link to DoomsdayPie.com...

  27. It may be cultural by Sentrion · · Score: 1

    I had a Chinese friend, but she never understood my satire. While traveling on business I commented on how nice the pillows were. She agreed they were nice. Then I told her that's why I packed one into my luggage to take home. She really thought I was serious. I had to explain I was joking.

    Culture plays a big role in how people react to things. For instance, don't pull a prank on a total stranger, like a random nurse in a hospital. Depending on their cultural background you might prompt them to kill themselves.

  28. 444c by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

    No, Hell's tempure is 444c. Let’s try to be scientific here.

    http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/hell.htm

  29. Re:attention brindafella by tg123 · · Score: 1

    without anyone picking up the irony

    You are either:

    (1) a dumb ass fuck, and thinks this is actually true.

    (2) a condescending dumb ass fuck, that thinks people can't see through your feeble attempt at waving your obviously tiny penis.

    ...

    or (3) His Dick is so huge that you can only see a tiny fraction of it.

  30. because... by schlachter · · Score: 1

    when they assume a certain level of stupidity for their non-asian counterparts...sarcasm is not the their first conclusion.

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  31. Americans... by schlachter · · Score: 1

    Although the hundreds of millions of Americans outside of the USA don't really feel this way...

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  32. good throughput by schlachter · · Score: 1

    fiber has been shown to improve throughput significantly...which is helpful when you have a lot stuff to push through

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  33. "The tyrant fears the laugh..." by Suffering+Bastard · · Score: 1

    I'm starting to think The Onion has more power to bring down dictators than any military action.

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  34. This may interest you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    May you enjoy a short article on the subject.

  35. Get a car. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2

    I have it on good authority that the preferred way of dealing with the Devil is to run him down. Getting a car might be a good idea.

    Of course when dealing with the minions of hell in general I wouldn't have a healthier or more deeply-felt respect for any object in the universe than a shotgun. Or I'd just use a chaingun, the hell with respect! Whatever your approach is, you should have a good chance as long as your cause is just, your will is strong and your gun is very, very large.

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    1. Re:Get a car. by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      I'd bargain with him by offering to tell him the ending of the Bible, so he can screw up the entire plan by just staying in bed come armageddon.

      Seems he never got around to reading that far, or he's a bit dumb. If the latter, I'll hold a gun to my head and tell him to back off or the cracker gets it.

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  36. Best. Prime Minister. Ever. by buybuydandavis · · Score: 1

    That is awesome. A Head of State acting like a human being. Surely, that is a sign of the Apocalypse.

    1. Re:Best. Prime Minister. Ever. by brindafella · · Score: 1

      ... A Head of State acting like a human being. Surely, that is a sign of the Apocalypse.

      The Prime Minister is the Head of Government (not Head of State; that is the Governpr-General of Australia) [but, someone will point out that the Queen of Australia is actually the Head of State and the Governor-General is merely the 'representative'/proxy].

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  37. When DO the bombs start? by brindafella · · Score: 1

    Let the sarcasm begin:
    * Ronald Reagan's microphone test ("We begin bombing in five minutes") is a case in point. That could have been read much more benignly, I think, if the Rusians had a more 'Western' sense of humour.
    * North Korea's (Kim Jong-un's) recent launch of a satellite into orbit, passing over Japan, Philippines, Indonesia and Australia, could be read differently, too, if we folk from those countries had a better Korean sense of humour. Maybe the Chinese and Russians would have understood the North Koreans better, if the launch had been to the north.

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  38. Re:Erm.. NBNCo Fibre is a disappointment by brindafella · · Score: 1

    In my professional life, I have seen the type of 'commercial' deals that NBNCo is doing. Definitely as case of "sign them up then forget them", from my personal observation. And... foreward thinking? 0%

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  39. Re:How 'bout them Aussie's, eh? by brindafella · · Score: 1

    Them Aussie's and their pranks. It's all fun and games until some packy nurse tops herself.

    Good pick-up. My original post of this article drew the attention of readers to Gillard's speech being on the same day as the death of the Indian nurse as a result of 2Day FM's hoax call. The /. editors changed it to the North Korean link. Fair call, but the hoax in London also works. :-)

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  40. Re:I am a Chinese American... by brindafella · · Score: 1

    ... my parents (born in China) have never made any sarcastic expressions in their life, they don't get sarcasm - they take everything anyone says at face value... It just doesn't exist in the culture.

    Good point. Culture goes deeply through our life experience.

    An American friend of mine regularly travels to China for her work. She is heavily involved in teaching English to her chinese acquaintances. I will ask her about her experiences of humour there.

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  41. without anyone picking up the irony. by DirtyLiar · · Score: 1

    The Chineese love a good joke. Even the one's they don't get!

    This is hardly a new phnominum, they've been re-publishing Onion stories for years.

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