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An Oven That Runs Android
Google85 writes "Dacor is exhibiting an oven that runs Android at CES 2013: it pulls together a 1GHz processor, 512MB of DDR2 RAM and Android 4.0.3. It also cooks food. At the front of the Discovery Wall Oven, there's a 7-inch LCD touch panel. From the article: '...The oven-maker's Discovery IQ controller cooking app will offer up interactive cooking guides, recipes and all other things cooking, although you'll still be able to install more standard apps from Google Play. The built-in cooking app offers preprogrammed dishes and adjustable timings for several dishes, while you can even program the oven to cook food remotely from any Android device.'"
intel beats ARM! (at excessive heat production)
That's all I need, to have someone compromise my oven with malware and burn my roast.
If it'll just set its own clock... You can get Android now or wait for iOS. I think for the price, I'll stick with my $1k LG oven and set my own clock though.
Pull my finger for my public key.
will only cook recipes previously approved by Steve Jobs. Fanboys will quickly realize that all other food was crap anyways. It will cost $5,000 more than the Android oven.
Way over-clock it, then you get "Android that Runs Ovens".
Table-ized A.I.
It makes sense to put one on the fridge, but don't most of us have an oven below the range? If you use your oven a whole lot you might want it up higher, but in that case you'll probably want a more serious oven, too...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Maybe it's a feature, it'll use some surplus Pentium 4s hooked up to a convection loop heatsink to cook the food.
Better to have a $1 low-power embedded CPU with an API, an external interface (Ethernet, USB, WiFi, ...) and no display, so the oven can be integrated into a home network and controlled by a widget running on the user's own computer. Every appliance independently trying to do everything simply adds complication, with no benefit.
"I'm just gonna have a piece of that cake you just made. You have to! -- The licenses on derivative works, and all that..."
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Finally, I can upgrade from my NetBSD running toaster!
should be the first recipe on the free book that comes with the oven.
"Apples think too much of themselves. When beaten to pulp however, they are delicious to consume. Apple pulp ideally needs to be roasted slowly to a crisp, using our special Android program. Although this app is free, and we have not applied for any patents, it is unlikely you will get this on an Apple iPhone anytiime soon. So enjoy your daily dose of "Apple pulp cookies" to keep the doctors and lawyers away."
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
If it has custom profiles suitable for doing solder reflow, I could see getting one.
When android 4.0 is completely obsolete, and so is the hardware in the oven, what are you going to do? No apps will be compatible. This stuff needs to be modular, so you can remove it and upgrade it; the electronics will be outdated loooooong before the oven needs to be replaced
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Better to have a $1 low-power embedded CPU with an API, an external interface (Ethernet, USB, WiFi, ...) and no display, so the oven can be integrated into a home network and controlled by a widget running on the user's own computer.
Which would require the user to pace back and forth between the room with "the user's own computer" and the kitchen with the oven.
Now all it needs is some hot new apps!
*Ducks*
Windows 12 EB (EasyBake version) will be out of beta by then.
Android powered kitchen sink
Finally! Appliances that last less than two years. Regular shoddy merchandise cut the replacement time to about 5 years, but that wasn't good enough. We need appliances on a two year update cycle. This is especially true for the refrigerator. The damned things last for decades. Decades, I tell you! That lousy refrigerant that also lubricates the pump. Awful stuff. Finally we can get those on a two-year upgrade cycle too.
Oh, BTW, "we" are the manufacturers. Customers? I think we heard of those one time. We turned them into "consumers". They WILL comply.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I know the consensus on /. is going to be that this idea is totally silly.
But, I can think of a few features I wouldn't mind having on a smart oven:
* It joins my home network, and I can put a widget on my desktop showing current oven temperature and the value of any countdown timers running.
* It has optional temperature probes, so if you want to do your meat right, instead of cooking by time you cook until the meat hits the correct temperature. And the current temperature appears on the desktop widget I mentioned above, and an alert fires when the temperature hits a certain value.
I have a meat temperature probe that came complete with a remote display/alarm. (The worst thing about it: if you take it out of range, it never goes off. It really should have a "watchdog" feature where it says "hey, I haven't received a heartbeat in a while, I must be out of range or something" and the alarm goes off.) I would love having the oven on my home network, using open protocols; let's face it, if I'm waiting for a pie to cook or something I'm going to be at my computer.
I can think of sillier ideas.
* Lots of fancy cook cycles. I looked at TFA and it seems they already have this one covered.
* QR codes on foods you cook in the oven, and you wave them past a cheap camera on the oven and it sets up the cook cycle!
* Multiple, convenient, named timers. The "Pie0" timer is almost done, but the "Pie1" timer has another ten minutes on it. I wouldn't buy one just for this, but I'd use it if I had it.
* Voice input for things like setting timer names?
This isn't the hottest idea I've ever heard, but it's not completely half-baked.
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
A gun, an oven, what next? The toilet will run Android to help me aim...
How do you prepare Angry Birds in an Android oven? 450 degrees for an hour per every 4 lbs?
I assume they taste like chicken...
So, expect someone to cook your breakfast on your Birthday, etc (a nice enough event).
But, on Apr Fool's Day, someone could set-off smoke detectors (worse if they also open
fire-sprinklers, that could damage furnishings, etc.)
And, arsonists could set a fire remotely... from many Km's ago (creating a bullet-proof ...otherwise, a cool toy / tool.
alibi).
The cost of an ESC(kind of)/dimmer device that can be safely controlled without burning themselves to ashes. If the oven already has some kind of timer (chances are good if it is an electric oven, especially if it has microwave) then probably it hasmind-bending proprietary crap running in it you would have to cut in half to interface to it.
But yes, a simple electric oven could be controlled with a few relays and a dimmer. I would be scared to automate my gas oven/burners though. It is OK that sometimes my lights turn on/off (crap X10 and some custom arduino code), but if my oven starts leaking gas .. well .. that is just creepy and bad :)
I'm glad someone has finally found a use for Intel's Android port.
Am I the only one seeing a battery status incon in the bottom-right corner in that first big screenshot. Why in world would an electric appliance have a battery powered interface?!? Also, next to it appears to be a cell phone reception indicator. I can understand wifi (which is also there), but why does your OVEN need a MOBILE networking interface?!?
Of course, it's a troll: BSD is dying. But this one settles it once and for all.
After all, BSD can only run on a lowly toaster, now Android totally eclipses them by running on an oven! I don't think BSD can ever recover from such a smack in the face.
I'm sure there will appear an app which auto-orders delivery pizza in the event your dinner burns to a crisp....
I control my oven using DOS and DESQview with the command line. Weasels!
Oh, yeah! Wise guy, huh? Woob woob woob woob! Nyuk! Nyuk!
Should be forced to read "The Toaster Story". http://ronald.naweb.com/funnies/tech02-toast.html
No more christmas dinners to cook anymore, with the help from Google calendar :p
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Oh, you are WAY behind on the times, aren't you? Android toilet will be released in February: http://techland.time.com/2012/12/17/android-controlled-toilet-makes-your-non-android-toilet-seem-like-a-throne-of-spikes-sandpaper-and-lameness/. Don't you have your pre-order in yet??
I just have my gas grill in the backyard. Can't even play Angry Birds on it, or Pandora, or send a Tweet from it. It just sits there like a dumb hunk of metal.
Look, if you stick a probe into a piece of meat, and it then wanders out of the closed oven, your meat is to rare! Either kill it more or don't leave it outside the fridge for so long.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
"In the future, the proof of a person's technical skill will be based on their
ability to boot linux on random objects. Those who are able to get a bash
prompt on a toaster oven will be gods that walk among us, constantly harping
on our choice of distribution."
--deathbyzen (slashdot.org 14-Dec-05)
The cost of an ESC(kind of)/dimmer device that can be safely controlled without burning themselves to ashes
Cheapie cheapie. You should see what the CNC and PLC guys do cheap. At these "thermal mass" "thermal inertia" you don't do high rate PWM (well, actually thats pretty much what an induction cooktop is, but I digress). An opto isolated SSR is not much higher cost than a physical switch of similar quality / reliability / power level, crazy as that sounds to old timers.
My stove already has nice controls. Give me something new and useful.
I think controlling the oven is nearly useless to me. What I would like is 1980s era computation levels like "convert from C to F in a chart or whatever", the infinitely complicated sugar cooking temp level chart, and ESPECIALLY a nice GUI timer with individual timers for EACH burner and shelf of the oven. Also may as well install decent speakers so I can stream music. Basically this is all stuff I do while in the kitchen with my current array of tablets/phones, except this would cost a lot more money and theoretically be easier to clean and more food-proof.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
Soon there'lll be no device left which doesn't feature some
Its a fad thing. About a generation. In the 80s/90s you couldn't buy a kitchen appliance without a shitty two button clock that would never be set and was completely useless for everyone, although it meet the "checkbox" requirement for all appliances to have a shitty digital clock. Stove, microwave, breadmaker, stand mixer, coffee maker, old fashioned cord phone, fridge, heck I bet there were hand miixers and blenders with shitty digital clocks.
That is mostly dead and if you want a modern kitchen you only get a clock in the stove, or you buy one and hang it up. Thats it.
This will be the same way. Soon you'll have to wait 5 minutes for android to boot on your hand mixer and apply all recent app updates before you can mix some cake batter. Then next time it'll complain that you didn't properly spend 2 minutes shutting down before pulling the plug. Don't worry this all makes it convenient and "better". And a generation beyond that, people will be doing something equally stupid, yet different, and be all "WTF were you thinking?"
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
I'm just curious how the electronics would handle the excessive heat over the course of time.
It's never going to happen!
OK, maybe not never, but they've been pushing the idea of computers making life in the kitchen for Suzie Homemaker a breeze since practically the days of Bletchley Park and its never completely taken off. "It can keep an inventory of ingredients you have on hand! A full database of recipes! Develop nutritionally complete meal plans! Automatic shopping lists! Step-by-step cooking instructions with automated temperature controls!"
And the people saw these innovations, and thought....meh.
Probably everyone here has a microwave that let's you put in the time/power for dozens of food items with the mere push of a couple of buttons - "press Potato once for one potato, twice for two potatoes" - and we can barely be bothered to even use that. (I used the Water button on mine for my morning cuppa tea, but that's it.) We just go "eeeeehhh, three minutes sounds about right." Cooking is still a realm where people are perfectly comfortable with winging it.
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Now I can play Angry Birds on my oven while I roast an angry bird!!
or Bad Piggies while cooking a ham...
Perhaps there's a limit to the devices that actually need Android on them? I mean, I'm sure I don't need a toothpick with Android installed...
> What's to keep a resourceful person from rewiring their current oven to a spare phone in order to accomplish the same thing at a fraction of the price?
Your insurance company.
The price of freedom is eternal litigation.
They could be printed with food safe UV ink on the foods themselves. I've wondered why microwaves don't do this. I realize that cook times vary, but you could store the kWh to cook the food along with power levels and timing in the QR code.
"Cornish game hen? Yeah, I can do that. Let me call up the template..."
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
If this thing lets me check the status of my oven on my phone, and does things like ring me when the roast is cooked, I'm interested.
First there will be QR codes on food packages to set the oven's temperature and cooking time.
Then there will be people starving, because they threw out the package before scanning it.