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Plans Unveiled For Full Scale Replica of the Titanic

Hugh Pickens writes "USA Today reports that Australian billionaire Clive Palmer has unveiled plans for construction of Titanic II, a cruise ship designed as a 'full-scale re-creation' of the Titanic, adding that the ship will be built in China and begin carrying passengers in 2016. The Titanic II will be built 883 feet long – 3 inches longer than the original Titanic – and weigh 55,800 gross tons, according to Palmer, who stopped short of calling the vessel unsinkable. It will carry a maximum of 2,435 passengers and 900 crew members, and include a gymnasium, Turkish baths, a squash court, a swimming pool, a theater and a casino. Like the original ship, there will no TVs aboard and probably no Internet service, Palmer says. Passengers will be able to dress in 1912-style clothing, giving them an opportunity to step back in time, or pretend they are Leo DiCaprio or Kate Winslet, who starred in James Cameron's 1997 blockbuster movie. But industry insiders are skeptical about the commercial viability of the ship. 'Titanic II is a curiosity and may have a draw as a floating hotel, but the idea of spending close to a week at sea on a vessel built around such a thin premise is seen as a stretch, at least by many within the industry,' says Michael Driscoll, editor of industry newsletter Cruise Week. Driscoll adds that he is skeptical about the future of Titanic II in the aftermath of the Carnival Triumph fire and last year's shipwreck of the Costa Concordia off the coast of Tuscany. Paul Kurzman, whose great-grandparents, Isidor and Ida Straus, died on the Titanic, says he has 'no problem' with the construction of Titanic II. 'I don't think they would have had any problem whatsoever, as long as the Titanic II steers clear of icebergs.'"

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  1. Seperation of classes by matthewlw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would have to wonder if they will effectively separate classes on a ship as they did in that time, this hardly seems like it would be a popular concept in modern day, however it is hardly an accurate recreation if they ignore this aspect.

    1. Re:Seperation of classes by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Rose had plenty of fun in the the third class "Irish Jig" bar

      Plus it got her drunk/horny enough to grab Jack and do him in the back seat of a car so maybe it isn't all bad.

      The whole point of going on it is role playing so it should be a big hit in the orient even if whiny westerners don't think they can live a week without Facebook .

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    2. Re:Seperation of classes by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps passengers on this thing can get a taste of each. 2 days in 1st class, 2 days in 2nd and 2 days in 3rd. And 1 day shoveling coal into a furnace...

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    3. Re:Seperation of classes by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Clive Palmer is actually completely fecking bonkers. People here in australia treat him as sort of a scary/facinating madman who got all the dollars but none of the sense that one might associate with being a billionaire. Granted its not uncommon with australian billionaires to be a bit cranky (See rupert murdoch, gina rinehart, and so on).

      That said. I want someone to convince him to spend his billions on space travel. He's just far enough off his rocker to actually consider it.

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    4. Re:Seperation of classes by Frankie70 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What do you mean not a popular concept in modern day?

      Flights have cattle class, business class, first class etc don't they?

    5. Re:Seperation of classes by meddle99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      and another day floating in a life raft, you know, to complete the experience.

    6. Re:Seperation of classes by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The point is that she never would have been there...the movie was a work of FICTION. Imagine an elegant society woman going to a hoedown with the hillbillies to understand how ridiculous the concept is.

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    7. Re:Seperation of classes by pkbarbiedoll · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because historically, extreme concentration of wealth in the hands of a few coincides with recession/depression and high levels of national debt. This is not hard to understand. Redistributing wealth to a smaller group of people means the larger group of people have less to spend. The smaller group owning the majority of the wealth will not spend their money the same way someone from the lower classes will.

      The reason we had such a great economy in the 1950s was in part due to the low income inequality via high taxation on the rich. Capitalism worked beautifully then, lifting the standards of practically every American. One can argue the same is not true today.

    8. Re:Seperation of classes by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even during the Victorian Era, much interclass screwing around took place. Don't confuse the stereotype of exemplary chastity with, as they say, "the facts on the ground". Prostitution was all over the place. Etc.

      Prostitution generally involved higher class men screwing lower class women. The other way round was rather unusual.

    9. Re:Seperation of classes by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      As long as the wealth is created in a free market, that wealth is a reflection of merit, either of the individual in possession of the wealth or of someone who left it to them voluntarily.

      Remind me again how being born to rich parents is meritorious?

      You are clearly a deranged socialist who can't understand common sense. The wealth is meritorious in itself. Once created, it creates meritoriousness in all who are clever enough to touch it. An so a Meritoriocracy is created. You poor peasants wouldn't understand.

      Now get off my expensively manicured front lawn, you unutterable oik.

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    10. Re:Seperation of classes by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mod parent -5 for knowing any detail whatsoever of the plot of Titanic.

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  2. Please tell me it wont be an accurate replica... by jonwil · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
    Like the lifeboats.
    And the engines.
    And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems)
    And the kitchens

  3. Re:Please tell me it wont be an accurate replica.. by a_hanso · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
    Like the lifeboats.
    And the engines.
    And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems)
    And the kitchens

    And the iceberg itself. I don't think I'll be comfortable in a recreation of a scenario that ends in people freezing to death.

  4. Well spent monay, not. by u64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's next, Hindenburg replica?

    1. Re:Well spent monay, not. by heypete · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's next, Hindenburg replica?

      Why not? Traveling by airship would be a unique experience for many people.

      With proper precautions, hydrogen as a lifting gas is not considerably more hazardous than jet aircraft loaded with gobs of jet fuel /covering the fabric of the airship with highly flammable chemicals seems like a bad idea

    2. Re:Well spent monay, not. by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why is it 3 inches longer?

      Clive Palmer is standing on the front sticking his cock out pretending Kate Winslett is on the end of it.

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  5. Looney by hairyfish · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those outside Australia, Clive Palmer is well known looney tunes. He has a habit of making outlandish claims (such as the CIA is funding the Green (hippie) party purely to destabilise our coal industry), I'd be surprised if this ever sees the light of day.

    1. Re:Looney by mad+flyer · · Score: 4, Informative

      And nobody tell the guys that the titanic had -from memory- at least one sistership who went on with her own commercial career without anykind of troubles...

    2. Re:Looney by Alioth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Almost any kind of troubles. The Olympic did crash into a British warship, the collision holing her both below and above the waterline, but no one was hurt in that one and neither the Olympic nor the warship sank.

      According to Wikipedia, one of the passengers on the Olympic when it crashed later was later on the Titanic when she sank (and survived that ordeal), and later was on the Britannic when it sank (surviving that one too).

    3. Re:Looney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      According to Wikipedia, one of the passengers on the Olympic when it crashed later was later on the Titanic when she sank (and survived that ordeal), and later was on the Britannic when it sank (surviving that one too).

      Slightly luckier than the Tsutomu Yamaguchi who got hit by two nukes. (and survived that ordeal.)

  6. Re:Please tell me it wont be an accurate replica.. by leathered · · Score: 5, Funny

    They had British chefs.

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  7. Finally, the ship for the movie by Doalwa · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was wondering when somebody would step up to the challenge and finally build a ship based on that wonderful movie from a few years back: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/?ref_=fn_al_tt_9

  8. Re:Please tell me it wont be an accurate replica.. by Zaatxe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't worry, global warming took care of this one!

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  9. Nothing wrong with the equipment... by Kupfernigk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...or indeed with the iceberg detection. The problem was with the owners and the officers, and they aren't around any more.

    Here's a hint: there were other ships in the area and none of them sank due to icebergs.

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  10. Re:Dilation by Kupfernigk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Three inches extra dilation? She seemed to think it was important.

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  11. Re:Please tell me it wont be an accurate replica.. by MitchDev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, load the the ship with the "top 1%" and sink the bitch fast, no lifeboats.

  12. Re:I think by dbIII · · Score: 4, Informative

    He had a big event on this subject in New York yesterday.
    Of course he's well known in Australia for stupid announcements that have little to do with reality. It was just over a year ago that he called a press conference to announce that Australia's environmental groups were funded by the CIA.

  13. Re:I think by durrr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, the league of Irony and Evil have agreed to fund a life-size replica of the iceberg that sunk titanic.

    If you happen to know the formula of ice-coloured stealth paint and/or how to build silent diesel electric motors, please send you CV to titanic_reenactment@repeathistory.com

  14. Edwardian culture by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Prostitution yes. Affairs, no.

    Upper class women were often left at home for long periods while their husbands went off to rule the Empire. The result was a culture of affairs with men of similar social standing, and also of sex with the servants. The latter was in some ways a form of prostitution; in exchange for a clean indoor job involving standing around handing out food and drink and shifting luggage, all board, lodging and clothes provided, a footman was expected to service the mistress and perhaps her friends. In a divorce case (which was really considered scandalous) it was not done to cite other parties lower than one's own social status, i.e. bonking servants didn't count.

    Not in all cases obviously, perhaps not in a majority, but the rules have been well documented.

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    1. Re:Edwardian culture by Shinobi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In a way, that reminds me of the Clinton-Lewinsky "scandal" and some of the extreme reactions....

      The "good christians/family values wardens" in the US: "Omg, he's got a mistress!!"

      Italians, spaniards and french people I knew at the time: "Omg, he's got only 1 mistress!"

  15. How long will the line be for "King of the World?" by default+luser · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know every fucking passenger will have to "experience" it, but there's only one prow on this ship, and more people there just ruins the experience.

    Maybe they'll use FastPass to reserve your place in line?

    "My love, I reserved the King of the World ride at 6pm, followed by a frolic in the back seat of an old clunker!"

    So romantic!

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  16. Re:Please tell me it wont be an accurate replica.. by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah yes:
    Heaven - where the police are British, the chefs are French, the lovers are Italian, the cars are made by the Germans, and it's organized by the Swiss.
    Hell - where the police are German, the chefs are British, the lovers are Swiss, the cars are made by the French, and it's organized by the Italians.

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