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Google Reportedly Making a Smartwatch, Too

judgecorp writes "With Samsung and (reportedly) Apple already making smartwatches, Google has now joined the party, according to a (paywalled) report in the Financial Times. The Google Watch is apparently being made by the Android group, and could have some synergy with Google's other wearable tech — the Glass spectacles. The distinctive thing in Google's patent seems to be having two displays — one for public data and a flip-up one for more private stuff."

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  1. Watch! by meowgoesthecat · · Score: 1

    To go with my glasses?

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    1. Re:Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      When the rumor mill said Apple was making one, I thought it was really stupid. Now I think it's really cool.

    2. Re:Watch! by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I realize I thought the same thing about smartphones, then tablets. "I have a computer and a flip phone that makes calls. What do I want with a portable computer with no mouse?" My reaction just a few seconds ago was "What do I need a smartwatch for? I have a smartphone that tells me the time!"

      Sigh. Time to raid the kid's college fund again.

    3. Re:Watch! by ByOhTek · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Nope. Sucked when Apple did it. Sucked even more when Samsung decided to do it. Continues to suck with Google, and when Microsoft jumps on this overcrowded, watch-sized bandwagon... it will STILL suck.

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    4. Re:Watch! by turp182 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My "smart watch" performs basic watch features (the time, stopwatch, alarms) as well as altitude, relative atmospheric pressure, temperature (can't be on the wrist for that), and a compass.

      Smart enough, and it basically lasts forever as it is solar powered enough.

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    5. Re:Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goddammit, dad!

    6. Re:Watch! by Kelbear · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Until recently I had no tablet because I had no need for one. But recently I bought a refurb. Nexus 7 for $162, because since having a baby, I need to be where the baby is. For the 3 months after he was born I had pretty much no access to electronics outside of work. If I want to consume some content, the phone is too small, laptop too clunky, and desktop is somewhere else in the house.

      Thus the tablet is a perfect fit, it serves up the content at an ideal screen size as I walk around the house, and is held in one hand (especially important!), and serves as the video baby monitor I can take with me around the house.

      Tablets had no purpose in my home...until they did.

      Watches are probably going to be a harder sell. Possibly useful as a hands-free extension for smartphones, but I'm not a heavy phone user (living on a 150mb per month data cap), so it'll take a long time for me to find a use for a smart watch. But I'm sure there are plenty of people who can make use of them.

    7. Re:Watch! by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Apple didn't do it. It was just a rumour.

    8. Re:Watch! by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Apple didn't do it.

      Yet.

      It was just a rumour.

      Until it was confirmed by being repeated here.

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  2. Google Reportedly Making a Smartwatch, Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reinventing the watch

  3. The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Smartwatches are idiotic! Who would buy a smartwatch except some gullible Apple hipster?

    Smartwatches are idiotic! Who would buy a smartwatch except some gullible Apple hipster?

    Smartwatches are idiotic! Who would buy a smartwatch except some gullible Apple hipster?

    (An Android-based smartwatch comes out)

    ZOMG smartwatches are teh roXorz! (Buys and wears one)

    1. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Cenan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fanbois are abundant in every camp. Smartwatches remains idiotic.

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    2. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by cusco · · Score: 2

      But Dick Tracy wore one!

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    3. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm trying to grok the distinction between a phone and a watch that makes a phone a legitimate tool and a watch idiotic. Obviously, if the weight or battery life is sufficiently poor, there's a real problem for a watch, but other than that, what's the difference?

    4. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make a good point, and Cenan probably wants those kids to get off his lawn.

      As long as a charge lasts all day, and it includes fitness tracking/heart-rate monitor, I can use this device.

    5. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      You mean aside from screen size, right?

      I don't want to have to scroll ten times to read a three sentence email.

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    6. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by antek9 · · Score: 1

      Is everyone forgetting that Sony has had Android powered smartwatches available for quite some time now? It's not exactly rocket science, and anyway, who on earth wants to do smart things on a 1" screen? ;) Wake me as soon as someone starts selling a wrist-holder for my Galaxy Note II, so that I can turn it into a Pipboy 3000...

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    7. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      From what I've heard, screen size will be pretty comparable to average sized modern smart phones, just curved and flexible.

    8. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      What you've heard? Vaporware != actual products.

      Have you tried placing a smart phone on your wrist? Even with curved glass/plastic/screens you'd have to roll your arm back & forth just to read this post.

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    9. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      As UI's go, smartphones suck pretty bad too. I just have a hard time imagining a watch being much worse.

    10. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The useful implementation of a smart-watch would be as an add-on to a smart-phone. It would need to pair with the phone, and display notifications as they appear. It would also add the sensors that are in the various "fitness bands", and provide a redundant interface for controlling apps such as the music player and dialer.

      The use cases would be:
      1. People who like fitness bands, will likely appreciate the tighter integration that would come from using a smart watch and smart phone from the same manufacture.
      2. People who get a lot of notifications, (texts, calls they might not answer, calendar events, etc.) will be able to determine if the notification requires immediate attention without the disruption of pulling out their phone.
      3. Combined with a headset allows you to operate your phone and music without needing voice control or to take out your phone.
      4. makes checking the time slightly quicker.

      As long as they can keep the devices under $200 they'll probably sell.

      What will not sell is a smart-watch that's a smaller smart phone, and priced at $600. The screen will be too small to be worth using it for anything nontrivial.

    11. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So far they have been, but I'm going to wait and see what Google & Samsung come up, as I refuse to touch Apple products given their current consumer hostility and behavior.

      Somehow, I have more hope for something that might actually have some useful functionality from Google, while I fear that Samsung will head for the lowbar of functionality yet add all sorts of mostly useless yet expensive tech to their watch and [try to] sell it for $1k.

      My Hamilton auto is in need of repair/replacement(between repair cost and shipping to Switzerland it'd be just as cheap just to buy a brand new one which I've already decided against -- too bad Rolex doesn't make non-blinged to hell(and reasonably priced) watches any longer), so instead of just buying a Casio pathfinder series.

    12. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if it is rounded, I am sure Apple has a patent on it and will drive all their sheep, er customers, to buy their curvy watches. Maybe they will have troubles working and tell their customers that they aren't wearing their watch right?

    13. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by geekoid · · Score: 1

      define smartwatch.

      A watch the also monitors my heart beat? I'd wear that.monitors my daily exercise? hell I can thing of a dozen things I'd like to see in a smart watch.
      Link it to my phone, and a lot of possibilities open up.
      Like tell your watch to beep at a certain time. Literally telling it.

      I don't consider any of the idiotic.
      Hell, wear it on your right wrist, and it cold auto exchange info when you shake hands.

      You just lack the ability to think about something in any positive way.

      You will notice, at no time do I talk about the manufacture.

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    14. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Funny joke.

      Not dated at all.

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    15. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Vaporware != actual products.

      no shit Sherlock. let see what we currently hace, shall we.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqQnV5tlFAM
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJehexDPEsE

      People re working on flexible screens right now, and prototyping them. Good thing for use we have engineers and thinker with imagination and drive, and not just a bunch of people like you.

      Do not equate smartphone with smart watch. Smart[x] means doing more then it original purpose.
      A smartwatch might just be as simple as tracking your heart rate and sending the info to your phone.

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    16. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Modern Smartphone Is aren't really that bad at all. Of course, you need to keep it in context.

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    17. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Bartles · · Score: 1

      I agree. Mainly because it requires you to wear it on your wrist.

    18. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "As UI's go, smartphones suck pretty bad too. I just have a hard time imagining a watch being much worse."

      It's better since you can use only 1 hand.

      I guess it's time to patent that 'suck energy out of the arm' thingie.

    19. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Did you even read what I wrote? Or you just had to be a jackass?

      Of course smartphones != smartwatches. That was my point! The GP said something about reading email on a watch, which I said wasn't a good idea.

      But maybe you forgot the ~ at the end of your post.

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    20. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Like tell your watch to beep at a certain time. Literally telling it."

      Talk to the hand, just what we need. I bet you are no public transport user.

    21. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So far they have been, but I'm going to wait and see what Google & Samsung come up, as I refuse to touch Apple products given their current consumer hostility and behavior.

      Give Samsung a chance to buy a few Apple watches for their R&D and design guys. Anything before that is likely to be an iPad with a wrist-strap and bottle opener.

    22. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What joke? Sounds serious to me.

    23. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      My Hamilton auto is in need of repair/replacement(between repair cost and shipping to Switzerland it'd be just as cheap just to buy a brand new one which I've already decided against -- too bad Rolex doesn't make non-blinged to hell(and reasonably priced) watches any longer), so instead of just buying a Casio pathfinder series.

      Last time I was in Peurto Vallarta there were plenty of folks selling Rolex's.

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    24. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm trying to grok the distinction between a phone and a watch that makes a phone a legitimate tool and a watch idiotic

      The smartphone didn't attempt to replace another item I already have, that I wear for different reasons. A watch is partly a piece of jewelry. A smartwatch is not. When smartwatches become aesthetically pleasing enough that they no longer need the 'smart' moniker, I will get one.

    25. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've heard, screen size will be pretty comparable to average sized modern smart phones, just curved and flexible.

      So... not a smart watch so much as a smart ancient Egyptian bracelet, then?

    26. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 1

      The use cases would be: 1. People who like fitness bands, will likely appreciate the tighter integration that would come from using a smart watch and smart phone from the same manufacture. 2. People who get a lot of notifications, (texts, calls they might not answer, calendar events, etc.) will be able to determine if the notification requires immediate attention without the disruption of pulling out their phone. 3. Combined with a headset allows you to operate your phone and music without needing voice control or to take out your phone. 4. makes checking the time slightly quicker.

      All of those things have already been implemented by the current crop of smartwatches, although I don't think there is one that implements all 4 points at the same time. Motoactv does (1) and (3), Sony Smartwatch does (2) and (3), and Metawatch does (2), (3), and (4).

    27. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by farnham · · Score: 1

      Maybe you are entirely uninformed but the Sony product referenced above _did_ display notifications from a smart phone.

      I bought one for $20 on one of the one day deal sites. While it had some bugs it did work. However after using it for a week, I forgot about it on it's charger for a month and then decided the whole thing was dumb.

      I came to the conclusion that I don't really need notifications on my wist, I don't like a watch that has to be charged frequently, and I don't like non-waterproof watches.
      Further, these days I see a watch as a man's jewelry. I wear a Seiko automatic most days. It's a little old fashioned and "Accurate enough". Maybe someday I'll get the Ball Engineer or vintage Omega Speedmaster Moon I'd like to have.

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    28. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Some smart phone users buy cases to attach their phone to their arm. Some of these people will buy a dedicated device for that purpose.

    29. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I thought the pebble watch was a great idea... My biggest complaint is at the price would rather a leather strap, and a frame. Which is something Apple would probably do better.

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    30. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      But Dick Tracy wore one!

      But he's such a dick ...

      (running out)

    31. Re:The average Slashdotter . . . by Stubbyfingers · · Score: 1

      Well, it MIGHT not be so dumb. But CHILL dude--if somebody has an idea you don't like--you DON'T have to buy it. GEESH! you're acting like they're going to pick your pocket or something.

      A smartwatch certainly wouldn't replace my Google Nexus, but if it could just have a half dozen or so simple functions, it could be worth something.

      Tell me the time and date--that's a given.
      Bluetooth sync of the day's appointments from my calendar.
      Maybe a small subset of my playlist that'll transfer quickly with Bluetooth.
      Track a few easy peasy pieces of info, like current local weather. Stock indexes, maybe a few stocks from my portfolio.
      Automatic sync of important news headlines.

      Just a few little things to keep me from having to pull out my pad would be a good thing and maybe worth something to me.

  4. Tyranny of Age by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    The idea of a smart watch when you already have a smart phone sounds to my old man ears like sneakers that blink lights when you walk. Maybe you have to be young to want blinky sneakers.

    1. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fair enough.

      You have to be old to want an iPhone - I'll keep off your lawn and you keep just keep on buying that Apple gear. It's made for people like you.

    2. Re:Tyranny of Age by irreverentdiscourse · · Score: 2

      Or maybe you just want to see who is calling you and accept/reject calls or quickly read text messages without having to take your phone out of your pocket? Or get it off your desk or out of your jacket... I don't understand the fuss, old man... I've wanted and envisioned something like this since the first cell phone I owned in the 90's.

    3. Re:Tyranny of Age by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      imagine the watch is a bike computer, the nike fuelband or fitbit thingy where it tracks how much you walk, your heart rate, pulse, maybe even add blood sugar

      its for people who like to go outside and breath fresh air and not the basement dwellers who are always rooting or ROMing their phones

    4. Re:Tyranny of Age by jovius · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't really think so. Satellite devices like watches and glasses are the next layer of abstraction for smart phones, which have become so big and powerful. Basically you could just carry the cpu or a connectivity component (cpu power can too be shared), and wear yourself with various screens and other paraphernalia to make the device whole. The ubiquitous computing is steadily moving forward.

    5. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are bluetooth watches that already exist (and have for years, cost about $40-60 depending on style) that do the caller ID for you so you know if you want to answer your bluetooth headset.

      Maybe you should try looking for what you want instead of waiting for it to be provided by Google, etc.

    6. Re:Tyranny of Age by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      its for people who like to go outside and breath fresh air and not the basement dwellers who are always rooting or ROMing their phones

      Really? Because you can bike and run just fine without any of those.

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    7. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correction, that should have been $40-600.

    8. Re:Tyranny of Age by alen · · Score: 2, Informative

      if you bike say 20 miles on a good day you want to know exactly how far you went, how fast, how much calories, heart rate, etc

    9. Re:Tyranny of Age by irreverentdiscourse · · Score: 1

      If all I wanted was Caller ID I could have gotten a watch with a built in pager in 1995.

    10. Re:Tyranny of Age by Slyfox696 · · Score: 5, Funny

      if you bike say 20 miles on a good day you want to know exactly how far you went...

      My guess would be 20 miles.

    11. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm on the OP's side. I'd rather work out like Rocky than like Ivan Drago.

    12. Re:Tyranny of Age by Xemu · · Score: 1

      There are bluetooth watches that already exist (and have for years, cost about $40-60 depending on style) that do the caller ID for you so you know if you want to answer your bluetooth headset.

      Maybe you should try looking for what you want instead of waiting for it to be provided by Google, etc.

      You saythere is already a "smart watch" for 60 bucks. Anybody can afford that. What anybody can afford, nobody desires.

      Make a smart watch for 6000 bucks and a premium bling smart watch for $60,000 and see your sales skyrocket!

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    13. Re:Tyranny of Age by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      if you bike say 20 miles on a good day you want to know exactly how far you went, how fast, how much calories, heart rate, etc

      I'm well aware of what a cycle computer does and I used to have one before it fell off, years ago. But you still don't need those things to have a good bike ride. A map and watch will tell you how far you went and how long it took.

      Not wanting sports tech gadgets does not imply that you are a basement dwelling nerd. In fact wanting tham makes you a pavement pounding nerd instead...

      I, like the old guy prefer to get my dose of nerdiness through other means.

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    14. Re:Tyranny of Age by cusco · · Score: 2

      Nah, I'd just want to know that I went from Point A to Point B, had a nice picnic lunch with my wife, and then rode back to Point A. IMONSHO, exercise is for having fun, not accumulating statistics.

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    15. Re:Tyranny of Age by tech.kyle · · Score: 0

      Apple might sue you for leaking their business model.

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    16. Re:Tyranny of Age by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I already have the Nike+ app on my iPhone. Do I need anything else?

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    17. Re:Tyranny of Age by Annirak · · Score: 1

      Watches have some kind of an allure, much like fountain pens. Just take a look at the Tread 1. It's a beautiful watch and I want one, but I can't have one because it's $20,000. Some people like Rolex's too. Personally, I don't get that one, but that's fine.

      If you have a smartphone, you surely must have had at least on occasion where it alerts, but it's awkward to get at it. You'll fish it out if it's important, but you'd like to know if it's important before you do that. For me, this has happened in a few ways: 1) it's raining and I'm outside. 2) it's winter, and the phone is in my pants pocket, which my coat covers. Finding out what the alert was requires removing a glove, and fishing it out of my pocket. 3) I'm in a meeting.

      There's another use-case: Suppose you have bluetooth headphones. If you also have a smart-watch, you don't need to get out the smartphone to: 1) see who is calling and/or answer a call. 2) check which track is playing. 3) read a text message or email. 4) skip tracks, adjust volume...
      The list goes on. Some of these functions are also covered by the bluetooth headphones, but not all.

      Is it necessary for the smartphone to fulfill its purpose? Absolutely not. Can it be convenient to have a tiny UI strapped to your wrist? Absolutely.

    18. Re:Tyranny of Age by Beorytis · · Score: 1

      The idea of a smart watch when you already have a smart phone...

      When I read the summary, my first thought was, "can I get one of these instead of a smartphone?"

    19. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exercise is for having fun, not accumulating statistics.
       
      Sure if you're doing it for fun but if you're training for an event or you have health issues you want something better. A guy with a heart condition really should know how hard he's pushing himself. A person who's training needs to keep meaningful track of how well they're progressing.
       
      Not everyone is you. Get over it!

    20. Re:Tyranny of Age by necro81 · · Score: 1

      It depends on how far you want to take your data collecting abilities. Using the smartphone accelerometer, you can measure running cadence pretty reliably (I don't think Nike+ does that, but other apps do). The next step up would be to incorporate a wireless heart rate monitor, which is a strap that goes around your chest that sends your heart rate (and potentially other information) using ANT+ wireless. Most smartphones don't have a built-in ANT+ receiver, although there are dongles and apps you can buy to add that functionality.

      But if you are running, perhaps carrying your smartphone isn't what you want. So then you are looking at a heart rate monitor watch. But if you ditch the smartphone, then you lose your GPS capability (route, speed, maps, etc.). So then you are looking at a GPS watch. Are you a triathlete? Then you'll want to be able to have a device that can do speed, heart rate, etc. for both biking and running (tracking during swimming usually doesn't work, because the water attenuate the radio signals). But if you've got your ANT+ enabled GPS watch on your bike, then you can also use it to track your wheel speed (independent of GPS speed), pedal cadence and, if you've got enough money, instantaneous power supplied to the pedals. You can also add in temperature, relative humidity, barometric pressure. I suspect it won't be long before we see earlobe or fingertip pulse oximeters and blood gluscometers added to the mix. Automatic detection of collisions, falls, accidents, and cardiac arrhythmia is also available.

      Oh, wait, you just wanted to go for a run?

    21. Re:Tyranny of Age by Entropius · · Score: 1

      Not everyone -- actually, probably few people -- care about those things.

      I don't bike, but I hike; the idea is close enough. When I go hiking I don't really care how far I go or how fast or what my heart rate was. I care about "What a pretty sunset!" and "That's a nifty cactus" and listening to the owls after dark. Exercise isn't always a MMORPG character sheet.

    22. Re:Tyranny of Age by Entropius · · Score: 1

      OT: Can anyone read maps any more?

      I was riding DC's subway and came back up to the street level. It was heavily cloudy so I didn't know which way north was; I knew where I wanted to go, but not which way was which. A police officer was right there, so I asked him "Officer, which way's north? I just got off Metro and I'm disoriented."

      He didn't know. A bloody *cop* didn't know which way north was in his own city. I then asked him "In which direction am I more likely to get shot, this way *points*, or that way *points*. He tells me, and then I know which way I'm going."

    23. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enticing, sure. That said... it will be lovely to have my smart clothing and satellite accessories become unsupported as soon as the smartphone it orbits does. Kudos if they design this so bricking or losing / replacing / gifting the phone has drm-esque consecuences.

    24. Re:Tyranny of Age by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...exercise is for having fun, not accumulating statistics.

      But, but....how do you know if you're winning?

      ;)

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    25. Re:Tyranny of Age by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Oh, wait, you just wanted to go for a run?

      Yep. Just open Nike+, set to my favorite playlist, put phone back in pocket and I'm good to go. Songs, mileage, pace, tracking, cumulative stats, etc.

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    26. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a handheld GPS (for geocaching. A smartphone isn't as accurate, and uses data to try), which will inded tell me how far I went, and how fast. I imagine calories can be calculated manually the exact same way a smartphone would. The only plus would be a heartrate, of which if I'm not mistaken, there's a multitude of ways to get any smartphone to find. Or just pay the $20 to get a dedicated device that measures it.

      At least with my method, I can still find a geocache if I'm not near a cell tower.

    27. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, I can't even understand the statement "not know how to read a map". That's like saying one doesn't know how to read an analog clock.

      It's lines on a paper. What line were you on when you started? Follow the path you travelled, on the paper. Where'd you stop? That point on the paper is where you are.

      I can see it being confusing if you're using a topo map in the back-country or something, and have to orient yourself around hills and whatnot, but seriously, any map that has names for roads?!? If you're not illiterate, then you know how to use a map. Look at street sign. Find on map. Look at cross-street sign. Find on map. done.

    28. Re:Tyranny of Age by Zebedeu · · Score: 1

      For some people, statistics is part of the fun.
      Also, as others pointed out, some people participate in activities for reasons other than (or in addition to) having fun.

    29. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Officer, which way's north? I just got off Metro and I'm disoriented."

      Just be glad he didn't decide to interpret "disoriented" to mean "not sober" and find something to charge you with, using a "yeah yeah tell it to the judge" attitude.

      Cops wonder why people don't like them. It's because the friendly cop our grandparents grew up with is mostly a thing of the past.

    30. Re:Tyranny of Age by quacking+duck · · Score: 2

      ...exercise is for having fun, not accumulating statistics.

      But, but....how do you know if you're winning?

      ;)

      Whoever bites first. Biting's excellent. It's like kissing, only there's a winner.

    31. Re:Tyranny of Age by cusco · · Score: 1

      I work with people who can design an entire security system based on a set of building plans, but who can't read a map to save their life. If the address isn't in their GPS they can't find it. Frelling amazing. Before I taught my nieces and nephew how to drive I first taught them to read a map and follow directions, since none of the three had any clue. I grew up hunting and fishing so map reading has always been second-nature to me.

      I don't like using a GPS, since even though it will get me to my destination I don't get the same feeling of context or location that I get with a map. A lot (most?) of my coworkers won't open a map unless their phone with the GPS is broken. Maybe this is also why I know about the out-of-the-way parks and scenic vistas that none of them know about.

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    32. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that. How do your friends and the rest of the world including your employer and Kim Yong Un automatically know that you are winning???

      I mean, seriously, how can anyone not want his pulse rate to be posted online all of the time so friends can check in real-time on their iPhone whether you're currently masturbating?

    33. Re:Tyranny of Age by guantamanera · · Score: 1

      I am such outdoors person, and mostly near, in or on the water. I only use mechanical watches for diving since they have to be open less the integrity is better. But this is a choice I am more comfortable with them plus a watch is also fashionable and is the only piece of jewelry I wear. And just because they're old fashion does not mean they're not complicated. I got watches with slide rule that allows me to do calculations way faster than a calculator since I just quickly rotate the bezel. You can also use your watch to check you pulse just put some pressure on one of your veins and look at your watch and count, and not only you will see it but also feel it. You can also use your watch to find out where north is, this is an old boyscout trick. I sail many times a year to Revillagigedo islands, Clipperton Island or halfway to hawaii for fishing and I am not dumb to rely on any of those digital gadgets. I always keep an analogue chronometer running while moving. I can confidently say that I had to rely on digital gadgetry I would be dead sine I had them fail on me more than once. Salt munches on circuit boards.

    34. Re:Tyranny of Age by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      You don't do many sports do you? Anything like watches and jewelery are taken off before activity (usually). Most people want music when they do solo activities like walking. The phone handles that and more so the watch is useless with existing technology. Maybe a few years from now it will have potential.

      I'd love to see an idiot look down at his watch while he's playing hockey. Head down = Getting leveled.

    35. Re:Tyranny of Age by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Bike rider here. Thats true but I know a few formerly basement dwelling unfit people who bought fancy smartphone devices for exercise when they got into cycling.

    36. Re:Tyranny of Age by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      Map reading is almost instinctive - you just have to imagine seeing a place from the point of view of a bird. Map labelling is often kind of stupid though, and I find bus maps frequently very difficult to read, while subway maps tend to be much simplified but out of scale to the point where if you don't already know your destination stop's name, you're not going to find your route.

      An analog clock is very different. There's nothing intuitive about it at all. Why do circles measure time? It kind of makes sense for the hour hand if you imagine it following the sun around the Earth in a geocentric universe where you live at the equator, but the other hands? Why are there three different hands and which one represents what? You absolutely have to learn how to read an analog clock. It's not difficult, but it's not a basic tenet of literacy either, and I predict that the ability to read analog clocks will fade now that digital readouts are ubiquitous, even if I personally prefer an analog watch.

    37. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When would a cop ever interpret disoriented to mean not sober? This is a ridiculous strawman.

    38. Re:Tyranny of Age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you're not a programmer. That guess only holds for good days, what if it is a bad day or a mediocre day? See, you need a smart watch to tell you what sort of day it is so you know how far you've cycled.

    39. Re:Tyranny of Age by swillden · · Score: 1

      A map and watch will tell you how far you went and how long it took.

      Unless your route was fairly straight, determining the length of your ride with a map will be both tedious and inaccurate.

      And if you're interested in details like how much time you spent stopped vs riding, what your speed was at various points on your route (e.g. are you getting faster at climbing that hill? how much?), then tracking the data with only a watch will be both difficult and undoubtedly you'll find yourself wanting information about old rides that you didn't think to collect at the time.

      Having a perpetual log of detailed, GPS-tracked data makes it possible to learn a lot more about your progress. Of course, you personally may not care about that. Now. But others do.

      Personally, I mostly want the freedom to take varied and complex routes while still getting accurate, automatically-recorded distance logs so I can check my mileage logged against my goals. With a smartphone I tap an icon to start, tap an icon to end, and everything else just happens automatically; I get periodic e-mails telling me how I'm tracking against my goals. This is worth something, even if you're not a nerd (which, admittedly, I am).

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    40. Re:Tyranny of Age by hicksw · · Score: 1

      ...smart watch when you already have a smart phone ...

      I used to carry a pocket watch, until I understood my nickel metal allergy. I got a sports wrist watch with a cloth band that kept the nickel back from my wrist.

      Then the band failed.

      So now I use my cell phone to tell the time. It is in my pocket, and much bigger than my old pocket watch. This is what we call progress?
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  5. How is this news? by Tarmas · · Score: 2
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    1. Re:How is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one read it as "Google reportedly making a sandwich"... as it is getting time to eat, seemed like news to me!

  6. Re:fuck google by Thunder6ix · · Score: 1

    You haven't been reading the comments on /. lately. Google has been getting a ton of flak from the circle jerking nerds.

  7. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And it'll require an internet connection to use.
    And they'll dump the server in 3 years and you'll be left with a useless wrist strap.
    /bandwagon

    1. Re:Yep. by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Can you think of any other that they've done that with, or is this an assumption based only on software experiences?

  8. This just in, Google reportedly makes everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems that Google has its own prototype of nearly everything just waiting for the right moment to release it. What doesn't Google make these days?

  9. Re:fuck google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google *is* the circle jerking nerds.

  10. I guess tomorrow's headline has to be... by AdamStarks · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft Reportedly Making a Smartwatch, Too, Kinda, Okay-So-It's-Really-Just-A-Surface-Pro-Ducktaped-To-Ballmer's-Forearm

    1. Re:I guess tomorrow's headline has to be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering how "big boned" he is, it may look a little small.

    2. Re:I guess tomorrow's headline has to be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pipboy 3000

    3. Re:I guess tomorrow's headline has to be... by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Forehead would be a much funnier visual.

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    4. Re:I guess tomorrow's headline has to be... by robogun · · Score: 1

      They actually had one back in 2003, and Suunto and Fossil sold them, but nobody would buy them because they did not have the apple logo. MS recently pulled the plug on the server.

    5. Re:I guess tomorrow's headline has to be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, and after tomorrow Facebook and Amazon too...

  11. creepshot by markhahn · · Score: 1

    the purpose of google glass is obviously creepshots and/or the virtual naked filter. how does wrist-mounting help? maybe the pulse sensor at your wrist can trigger image/video capturs whenever your pulse is elevated? what could ever go wrong with that!?!

    pulse and galvanic skin response-driven advertising, where have you been all my internet!

    1. Re:creepshot by Quakeulf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know there is a lot of energy to be harnessed kinetically by rapid repeated forearm motions caused by the creepshots and the virtual naked filter...

    2. Re:creepshot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As well as taking occasional under the table candid snapshots of ladies "knees". Next up, Google Smart shoes with an up-skirt camera. Fun for ages 10 and up!

  12. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What doesn't Google make these days?

    Tools for protecting our privacy?

  13. Re:fuck google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It would be the first coming of christ, since I'm jewish, you insensitive clod!

  14. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by lxs · · Score: 1

    Friends.

  15. Barbra Streisand Effect? by pablo_max · · Score: 0

    I have to wonder if Apple was seriously ever even working on an "iWatch" before the 24hr news cycle pundits started the hype.
    Once that happened, no one wanted to let Apple get the upper hand and so started making their own watch, to which Apple said, hey, we need an iWatch too!

    I just cannot imagine this being successful. You would look like the biggest douche-bag in the world walking around with an iWatch. Fan boys of course will deny it and think about how cool they are, but nope...you really will be a D-Bag.

    Still, there are loads of people that will buy it just because they want to be seen having an Apple product, no matter moronic it is. So, maybe it will take off.

    Personally, I like a quality watch. Solid construction and precision movements with rhodium-plated finish. I like my watch to tell me the time and possibly the date.
    Mostly, it should be lovely.
    A smart watch is a hunk of plastic and metal crap on your wrist that has about as much precision construction as 1970's communist block apartment building.

    1. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the success of the Pebble on kickstarter had a bunch of companies realize there was a market where they didn't think there was one.

      The Pebble was a great big success, now the big boys want to cash in on someone else's risk.

      The trouble is they don't understand the point of the Pebble or why it would be popular or the scope of users who would strap one on, so I expect these offerings to be pretty weak from major competitors like Apple/Google/(and who knows) Microsoft

    2. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by c · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once that happened, no one wanted to let Apple get the upper hand and so started making their own watch, to which Apple said, hey, we need an iWatch too!

      It's not exactly rocket science.

      The interest in the Pebble shows there's a market. Sony's had a smartwatch out for quite a while, although apparently while it's great when it works, their software is buggy as hell. Too bad, because they jumped in early enough that they could have owned the market.

      The trend towards larger and larger phones means that the whip-out-ability of the average smartphone has been rapidly dropping, to the point where pulling out your phone to check the time isn't even close to handy or discrete. On top of that, with always-on connectivity and a boatload of online services, the notification/interruption rates are increasing.

      So there's arguably a place for a small, always visible "front end" that allows the phablet to live in a pocket or purse until the larger display is needed.

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    3. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by cusco · · Score: 1

      they jumped in early enough that they could have owned the market

      This is a recurring theme with Sony, they are to consumer products what Xerox PARC was to computing. Good ideas but shitty implementation, frequently combined with ridiculous DOA rates.

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    4. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by fermion · · Score: 1
      It is likely that Apple was looking at this as there is some demand for watch device to interface with a mobile device. This watch could have caller ID, speakerphone, email, and text possibilities.

      The interesting thing about the Google watch is there already seems to be a number of watches that interface well with android phones, with interfacing with iPhone to a lesser degree. For android I think Motorola has a car set that will even read the message. So it is not clear if a Google watch is really going to be what we might be expecting from Apple, which is a device connected to the Phone, or something else.

      What is a surprise is that MS did not come out with a connected watch at the same time as the new phone.

      Once the electronics are fit into a watch type space, it can be put into any case, as fancy as one wants. On can imagine that the time, analog or digital, can be imparted on the crystal for use as a watch, and then removed so that one can see the text display underneath.

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    5. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      A regular watch in the modern age is mostly an ornament: pretty but pointless, as you can get the right time pretty much anytime from any number of sources. Your phone, for one. With that said, I love quality watches too...

      A smart watch on the other hand is functional: you wear it mostly because of the useful functions it provides, much like the (fugly) calculator and database watches of the 80s. Still, such a watch does not have to be ugly, it can be nice-looking and well made.

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    6. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      Just when you thought the iPod nano on a wristband craze was over, someone had to restart the smart watch fad all over again.

      No worries. It's been an on again/off again thing since the Casio calculator watch...

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    7. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by c · · Score: 1

      Uh... sorry. I guess I've been around so long now that I forget that when I write "Sony fucked up", not everyone automatically adds "again".

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    8. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      When I'm in a meeting or in a middle of a conversation, I can quickly look at my watch to see if I need to leave for my next appointment without having to take my phone out of my pocket or scout around for a clock and hope that it has the correct time.

      You don't actually believe that people don't get annoyed when you pull out your smartphone to see what time it is.

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    9. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      To be fair the pebble didn't exactly fill me with confidence that they had the ability to make a good product.

      The promo shots on the kickstarter showed all the "analog" faces were cut off because the scaled the watch face to the longer of their screen dimensions.

      I'd be more inclined to try the apple version over the pebble just because Apple generally doesn't fuck up simple crap like that.

    10. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Crookdotter · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there all this with the iphone though? Ooooh look, it's MASSIVE! You'll look like a dork holding that big thing next to your ear.

      Personally, I like the idea of a smart watch, phone and glasses. Battery life should be a priority I imagine, and any improvements in that tech will flow out to phones pretty much immediately I'd say. I think of it as a smartphone wrapped around your wrist that will be monitoring your pulse. Anything else it can access by skin contact to determine health?

      I don't know, but a monitoring system that can auto alert the paramedics upon a clear heart attack, even if you're alone - will call and give gps, and there's a prior, crude datalog of heart activity beforehand? Count me in. It might even be able to say - hey dude, I've been monitoring your heart activity over the past year, and you should go see a doctor to look at X Y Z more carefully! That's a watch that I want.

    11. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by c · · Score: 1

      What is a surprise is that MS did not come out with a connected watch at the same time as the new phone.

      They tried watches years ago. I expect that this time, they're going to wait until Apple shows them how to actually make money at it...

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    12. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think Xerox PARC's "products" were held back because of 'shitty implementations' you need to go learn more about the birth of personal computing.

    13. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by cusco · · Score: 1

      I was there for most of it. MS Windows and Apple took PARC's good ideas and made them into actual products that businesses and consumers would purchase. No one wanted to spend several times the price for Xerox's implementation, which only worked with a couple of applications anyway.

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    14. Re:Barbra Streisand Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So there's arguably a place for a small, always visible "front end" that allows the phablet to live in a pocket or purse until the larger display is needed.

      Except I want to wear my Galaxy Note on my arm, not carry it in my pocket. I WANT a forearm mounted device, not a tiny useless little watch. There are already tons of watches out there with almost useless (for me) displays.

  16. Why should they make a watch? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

    How about using Google Glass and machine vision to overlay the time on your wrist?

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    1. Re:Why should they make a watch? by Graydyn+Young · · Score: 1

      Glass isn't looking all that good for overlays. It doesn't incorporate your whole field of vision; just a small square in the top right corner. Think less AR, more HUD.

    2. Re:Why should they make a watch? by bitslinger_42 · · Score: 1

      I see Glass and GWatch (Glastic?) as being complimentary products. Glass is the HUD, Glastic the touch input interface. That way, I can play Angry Birds Star Wars during meetings without having my screen displaying the game or flailing my arms around like an idiot :-)

    3. Re:Why should they make a watch? by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      Glass isn't looking all that good for overlays. It doesn't incorporate your whole field of vision

      This could cause the failure of Glass. So many people think it can do AR, for instance, that recent article about it recognizing your friends from their outfits - how would it show their position?

      It will probably be an impressive product in its own way, but there's going to be a lot of disappointment when people use it due to these expectations.

      It's the Emperor's New Augmented Reality.

  17. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by jandersen · · Score: 2

    What doesn't Google make these days?

    Testicular implants.

  18. is there just NO originality anymore? by v1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Look, someone's making a touchscreen phone, quick, lets make one too!"

    "Look, someone's making a touch tablet, quick, lets make one too!"

    "Look, someone's making a smart watch, quick, lets make one too!"

    OK this is getting sickening, you can stop now.

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    1. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Look, someone's making a carriage pulled by horses, quick lets make one too! But with no horses!"

      Copying is half of invention. It causes innovation. I'm sure the mechanical wristwatch community is also complaining about this.

    2. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're not making replicas of each other's products. They're trying to make theirs better. Who would want competition though, right? Competition is so completely terrible at spawning innovation.

    3. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Apple "announces" a new product coming out in three months, and the following week Samsung and Google announce that they have a competing product coming out in three months, do people really believe that they are all just trying to copy Apple? Product development just doesn't happen that quickly.

    4. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by cusco · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, yes, people do believe that. In marketing perception is far more important than reality, and Apple has some of the best marketing around. If Apple announces today that they'll have a product in six months, and next week six other companies release real hardware to retailers the perception will be that they're following Apple's lead.

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    5. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never heard of corporate espionage?

    6. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Besides, Motorola has shipped their smartwatch for a over a year, and Google owns Motorola now.

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    7. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by quacking+duck · · Score: 0

      Yes, people do believe that. Witness every time someone claims the first iPhone was a ripoff of the LG Prada, despite the fact they were announced less than a month apart (and the Prada's original UI was vastly inferior).

    8. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by confusedwiseman · · Score: 1

      Maybe Apple is just being a massive troll?

      Apple: Hey, everyone, we're making a smart watch!
      Samsung: We have to make one too so we're not left out on the market. We're making one too!
      Google: Hey, us too, this goes great with your Google glass!


      Apple: *hushed laughter* Look at those idiots building a ridiculous product! *snicker*

    9. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      McDonalds spends a million dollars figuring out the best place to build their next franchise. Burger King builds a restaurant next door.

      That's just good business. Originality is expensive. Don't pay for it unless you need it.

    10. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by guspasho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > (and the Prada's original UI was vastly inferior).

      And isn't that kind of part of the point? There were smartphones around for years before the iPhone came out, but they all sucked horribly. I struggled to do any kind of Internet browsing with my Blackberry Pearl to do the kinds of things that I can do on my iPhone just by talking to it. I had a geek friend who was so proud of his Windows phone that had a stylus. I remember another had an iPaq that could play movies. There were also tablets before the iPad, but no one wanted to use them either. And in both cases, any competition lagged well behind Apple in terms of being able to come up with a product that anyone actually wanted to use.

      Apple knows how to make products that people want to actually use. No one else can seem to figure that out without waiting to see what Apple does and copying that.

    11. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      In the same week?

      Sounds like the time in Vegas where I won jackpots on three separate slot machines in one day, and was begging Tony and Guido to believe it was just a craaaazy coincidence and to not break my kneecaps....

    12. Re:is there just NO originality anymore? by v1 · · Score: 1

      McDonalds spends a million dollars figuring out the best place to build their next franchise. Burger King builds a restaurant next door.

      I didn't know BK did that. But I did know petsmart does it with petco ;)

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  19. For Typing? by Graydyn+Young · · Score: 1

    Maybe the watch tie-in with Glass will have to do with typing. After all, voice commands can only take you so far. Here's a (corny) video that shows how typing can be accomplished on a watch: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-minuum-keyboard-project

  20. Time Overlays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell with that. Use it to overlay the time on breasts.

    Then, when some chick is all in the face about "hey, I'm up here" you can fire right back with "yeah, I was just checking the time"

  21. Must be executed correctly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think a "smartwatch" could be a good addition to anyone's gadget arsenal as long as its designed correctly. Long battery life, eInk screen (LCD just won't work that well on a watch), and small and unassuming form factor. I think pebble (http://getpebble.com/) has the right idea. If these smartwatches end up being essentially smartphones strapped to your wrist, I don't see them succeeding.

  22. I have a Google SmartWatch already by BetaDays · · Score: 1

    Alright it's not built by them. they bought it from Motorola. It's called a Motoactv and Google hasn't done anything with it yet. there has been no development on it since Google bought Motorola out and I hope that if this is true they start doing something with it.

    I would defiantly buy another one once this one dies. I just, like everyone, would love more features and longer battery life.

    Here is part of a post I've posted about it before.

    It's a great device it's an MP3 player, exercise tracker that ties into a heart rate monitor or cadence sensor for biking, displays calories burned and number of steps taken in a day, It's got golf courses on it so you can see the distance stuff needed to play and keep your scores (I don't play golf), it has a GPS to show your route (wish it was more interactive on what you can do other than just see your you just ran) and the statistics that it keeps for your workouts. When tired into the website (it also has a android app) I can see exactly where I was on a map and show what my heart rate was, what song I was listening to at that moment, speed of my run, elevation of where I was. It tells time to. But it doesn't have an alarm clock also it doesn't vibrate, during workouts there is a coach that gives you information it's an electronic voice (a nice female sounding voice) , The device allows you to also race yourself with tones of if your running better or slower against your last workout. It's Bluetooth enabled so you can use Bluetooth headphones and also for notifications from the phone - weather, facebook, etc. Also has the ability to have a corded headphones if you want and you can then also use it as a radio. It's water resistant so a run in the rain is not a problem, wish it was water proof. Also it has to be charged every day. I really love it. I'm just said that once it dies I will not be able to get a replacement, although there are other ones that are out there that have gps and tie into online exercise communities they don't have an mp3 player built in. I do wish the battery lasted longer but when I'm not running I'm sitting at my computer so I let it charge then. https://motoactv.com/

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  23. Spectacles, ???, wallet and watch by tippe · · Score: 1

    So now we have a Google watch to add to the existing Google Spectacles and Google Wallet. I still feel like there's something missing to make the series feel complete...

    1. Re:Spectacles, ???, wallet and watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pocket protector?

  24. I've had a Calculator watch... by David_Hart · · Score: 1

    ...and I'm not interested in buying another one. In fact, I like the fact that I no longer have to wear a watch. My cell phone has become my watch.

    My initial thought is that smart watches are being developed to appeal to the fitness industry. The aim is to replace the "feature" watches which record your steps, heart rate, etc. much like smart phones have replaced feature phones.

    Now, if they came out with a smart roman arm guard.... After all, it would have enough space for a virtual keyboard.... (grin)

    1. Re:I've had a Calculator watch... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Now, if they came out with a smart roman arm guard.... After all, it would have enough space for a virtual keyboard.... (grin)

      That was my reaction to someone else who posted that Apple's watch would have the same screen size as a smartphone. "Um, that isn't a watch, it's a bracer."

  25. Is this fad stupid or clever? by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Oh, Nigel Tufnel, you were so right about that thin line.

    I think most people's reaction today is that they don't want a wearable computer, because if capabilities were equal, then pocketable computers are simply be more pleasant to use. They get out of your way when they're unwanted, and they don't leave you with a sweaty body part at the end of the day. And capabilities aren't equal; the pocketable computers will be bigger and therefore more capable.

    I feel like I agree with that: the idea of putting a watch on my wrist seems alien and uncomfortable.

    Twenty years ago, though, it sure seemed ok to me. And I'd like to remind people, that a hundred years ago, the norm for watches was that they went into pockets, and from there we shifted to wearables. This really happened. This happened, upon a medium of civilization full of people just like you. How/why? Unless you can explain why the fashion changed from pocket to wrist back then, then I'm not sure I can accept arguments for how it can't change again.

    All that said, just like everyone else, I don't think I want one. My point is that it's hard to predict whether or not the prevailing opinion will persist.

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    1. Re:Is this fad stupid or clever? by mjr167 · · Score: 1

      The fashion also used to be to dress baby boys in pink and baby girls in blue. Pink was considered too harsh a color for girls. So I think we can all agree you cannot predict what the masses will want next.

    2. Re:Is this fad stupid or clever? by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      Twenty years ago, though, it sure seemed ok to me. And I'd like to remind people, that a hundred years ago, the norm for watches was that they went into pockets, and from there we shifted to wearables. This really happened. This happened, upon a medium of civilization full of people just like you. How/why? Unless you can explain why the fashion changed from pocket to wrist back then, then I'm not sure I can accept arguments for how it can't change again.

      All that said, just like everyone else, I don't think I want one. My point is that it's hard to predict whether or not the prevailing opinion will persist.

      The Wikipedia article that you referenced actually has a good explanation for the change from pocket watches to wrist watches. Women wore wrist watches as jewelry, because they didn't have pockets. Men didn't wear them until WWII when: "During the war, soldiers needed access to their watches while their hands were full. ". Wrist watches made telling the time easier while working in a labor or manufacturing based job where your hands were full.

      Now, most people, in first world nations at least, no longer work in a manual labour job, so our hands are free to pull out our smartphone, check the time, and catch up on things. Because our hands aren't full most of the time, we no longer need a watch...

    3. Re:Is this fad stupid or clever? by dj245 · · Score: 1

      The fashion also used to be to dress baby boys in pink and baby girls in blue. Pink was considered too harsh a color for girls. So I think we can all agree you cannot predict what the masses will want next.

      It's not pink, it's salmon.

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    4. Re:Is this fad stupid or clever? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I still want a wearable computer, because it's harder to drop. But it also has to be the stuff of science fiction, because it somehow has to also be as convenient to use as a smartphone is now, and also nigh-indestructible.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:Is this fad stupid or clever? by femtobyte · · Score: 1

      Maybe the smartphone-equivalent of the watch chain will come back into style to fix the dropping issue. I'm sure manufacturers would love a chance to sell another high-profit-margin fashion accessory to go with every phone.

  26. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by fluffman86 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An RSS reader?

  27. yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny how it's a fact that Apple is making a smartwatch. Will it ship before their TV? lol

  28. Hope it doesn't try to data link with phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Android's Bluetooth support sucks.

  29. EVERYBODY is late to the game. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IBM did it first - in 2001

    http://www.freeos.com/articles/3800

    So Linux has been there already - and for 12 years at least.

    Nothing new there...

    1. Re:EVERYBODY is late to the game. by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I can already picture the romantic, cheesy Apple video advertisement where some guy talks "I was astonished when our team realized that we can finally build it. Something from a science fiction movie. A smart watch. We just had to invent that." White background, soft piano music playing in the background.

  30. Problem: No one under 35 wears watches anymore... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the only exception of stylish brand name watches worn for fashion reasons. The "Smartwatch" is going to be DOA

  31. Imagining the possibilities by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can think of lots of applications for a device attached to your body, and telling time is far down on that list.

    (Since I work mostly within view of computers I haven't worn a watch in my professional life ever. Nowadays with smartphones, the need is even less.)

    Can bone conduction work with a watch-like device? You could hear your phone ring without disturbing anyone else, and if you could identify the ringtone you could tell how important the call is.

    Would body measurements be useful? Heartbeat, temperature and blood oxygenation seem obvious. Would it help your doctor rule out certain diseases to know the characteristics of the fever - spiky/continuous, low/high level, exact date of onset?

    Could the device make fitness measurements? Tell how much exercise you're getting per week, let you know when to get out more and which type of exercise best meets your goals?

    If there's an embedded accelerometer, can the instrument detect tossing/turning at night? With the blood oxygenation, could it detect sleep apnea? Snoring? Other sleep disorders?

    Could the device detect dust levels in the manner of a [non-radioactive] smoke detector? Would this be useful for people to monitor their allergies?

    I once worked with a scientist at Berman Gund laboratories (Boston) who was amazed [at the time] that you could put a microprocessor on a lanyard connected to a light sensor mounted on the patient's eyeglasses. He wanted to see if the progression of Retinitis Pigmentosa correlated with the amount of light entering the patient's eyes.

    Light sensors are now cheap and tiny.

    Does the amount of light in a user's environment correlate with depression? With SAD? Does fluorescent light correlate with depression? Does brightness matter or total daily duration?

    Will it have a GPS receiver? Could it display an arrow and distance information?

    Lots of applications here. Telling time is almost an afterthought.

    1. Re:Imagining the possibilities by charles2678 · · Score: 1

      Can bone conduction work with a watch-like device? You could hear your phone ring without disturbing anyone else, and if you could identify the ringtone you could tell how important the call is.

      Bone conduction has a pretty short range -- you really want it to be something that's sitting on your head, not that far from your ears. Now, for Glass, it'd be absolutely perfect (as a way of providing audio without interfering with one's hearing when not playing anything back), but not much so for a watch. Anyhow -- just from a battery perspective, I'd want to keep the watch device as tiny as possible, basically just I/O for the big CPU on your phone; the Pebble strikes that balance perfectly. Adding sensors makes sense, to the extent that such can be done without compromising weight, size, and battery life.

    2. Re:Imagining the possibilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://getmyo.com/ is yet another interesting possibility

  32. sudo by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    Make me a sandwich, too.

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    I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
  33. Will they replace smartphones? by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

    My problem with wearing *any* type of watch is durability. Will it's screen get scratched? Will the pins that secures the wriststraps break? I've lost watches (cheap Casios, thankfully) because of this. When cellphones (that had the time) became affordable was when I stopped needing to wear a watch. So unless these have some killer app like a 24/7 blood pressure monitor, they'll just be "Look what I can afford" fashion statements.

    1. Re:Will they replace smartphones? by Graydyn+Young · · Score: 1

      One also needs to note, that a watch is unlikely to have the screen real estate need for texting/email. Even when paired with Glass, I'm having a hard time seeing how this tech can replace our phones.

    2. Re:Will they replace smartphones? by lloydchristmas759 · · Score: 1

      They would very likely use sapphire glass to make it scratch resistant, like any other (decent) watch.

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    3. Re:Will they replace smartphones? by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      They would very likely use sapphire glass to make it scratch resistant, like any other (decent) watch.

      Like any new technology, they're going to be too expensive for the first couple of years, can't justify buying one until then.

      Right now SapphireGlass on an iPhone screen would cost $30 compared to $3 for GorillaGlass, though cost will go down this year. I'd still want/need an applied screen protector for it, I have a feeling that sapphire glass would still get 'glazy' from use time, and GorillaGlass isn't all that it's cracked up to be (no pun intended), scratches develop from pocket lint, and it does crack.

      Still leaves the wriststrap pin issue.

      http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/50514/smartphones-sapphire-glass-gorilla-glass

    4. Re:Will they replace smartphones? by lloydchristmas759 · · Score: 1

      I think you don't realize that watches have had sapphire glasses for decades. A sapphire glass may cost 30 bucks for a 5" screen, but it is probably much cheaper for a watch-sized screen.

      And I can assure you that sapphire will stay perfect for a long time. The Tissot watch I am currently wearing is more than 5 years old and the glass is still _perfect_. The metal case however is quite badly scratched.

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    5. Re:Will they replace smartphones? by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      I think you don't realize that watches have had sapphire glasses for decades. A sapphire glass may cost 30 bucks for a 5" screen, but it is probably much cheaper for a watch-sized screen. And I can assure you that sapphire will stay perfect for a long time. The Tissot watch I am currently wearing is more than 5 years old and the glass is still _perfect_. The metal case however is quite badly scratched.

      Hmm, thank you, I did not know about any of this 'SapphireGlass' material until reading your post. I use a screen protector ( http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/index.php ) on my LG smartphone so I can treat it casually. All my previous phones developed 'glaze-itis' over time, making the screens really difficult to read. So if these companies are going to make a viable smart-watch, this SapphireGlass will need to be the standard.

  34. That is what makes one a Douche-bag by pablo_max · · Score: 1

    "I can quickly look at my watch to see if I need to leave for my next appointment without having to take my phone out of my pocket or scout around for a clock and hope that it has the correct time."

    If I am in a conversation with someone and they check their watch for appointments i the middle of our conversation, then I may just tell you to piss off.
    Also, why are you not able to know when you have an appointment before you step into my meeting? Is your time so much more valuable than mine that you cannot be bothered to check your fucking calendar before you except a meeting?

    1. Re:That is what makes one a Douche-bag by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      Yes. ;)

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  35. Already had a smartwatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I already had a smartwatch 20 years ago as a kid. It played Robocop.

    http://www.gamewatchguys.com/game_watch_details.php?toggle2=off&watchid=116

  36. Re:fuck google by oPless · · Score: 1

    Google *ARE* the circle jerking nerds.

    There, FTFY.

  37. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Actually they do. Maybe you should get your head out of you ass?

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  38. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    Tools for protecting our privacy?

    Actually, Google does make a tool for protecting our privacy: it's the Incognito window in Chrome.

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    "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
  39. Re:fuck google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google *ARE* the circle jerking nerds.

    There, FTFY.

    "Google" in that sentence is singular, numbnuts. It is one company, one entity.

    If he said "the employees of Google" then you would have had a point. If you're going to correct someone, get your own shit together.

  40. MotoActv by jfinke · · Score: 2

    Google already owns a smart watch. It is called the Motorola MotoActv. It is a smart GPS watch running android and can interface with some android phones. It has Wifi, BT, ANT+, FM, with GPS, Touchscreen, music player, etc. I believe that someone has jailbroken it already. Unfortunately, Moto was slipping on their support and since Google has bought them it has just gotten worse.

  41. I need a watch anyway by ravnous · · Score: 1

    So why not make it a smart watch? Especially if it'll do things I was going to buy a fitbit to do.

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    When does this happen in the movie?
  42. What's With the Hate? by mlw4428 · · Score: 1

    It seems like a lot of Apple fanbois are crawling all over this thread going "See, see when Apple does it...whhhaaaaa" or whatever. I never heard Google or Microsoft or Samsung go "gee, that's dumb." These are the companies and not the fanbois doing this, there is no "WHEN APPLE DID THIS YOU GAVE THEM SHIT" crap.

    I'm also curious about all of the "we don't need this stinkin' stuff" mentality. Maybe it won't have that many uses -- what it does serve is helping to shrink components, increase battery life, and act a medium to future development of future technology. R&D needs money and sometimes consumer products are a great stepping stone. Smartphones would've never existed until your plain ol' brick-style non-touch screen, non-colored, 1" LCD screen, 1 hr of battery life cell phone became popular. But that technology along with consumer demand gave those with the $$$ to blow reason to invest their money.

    Maybe Apple's idea was stupid, but I generally like when companies innovate. Although lately it seems Apple does more of buying/combining old technology and puking out some bastardization of it and then sue anyone who attempts anything remotely similar in nature. That may be why I personally cringe whenever Apple announces new products and why most of the Apple haters do too. When you're known for stifling competition through frivolousness lawsuits it becomes hard to cheer any product that will just cause an entire concept to be locked to the Apple world.

    1. Re:What's With the Hate? by strangeattraction · · Score: 1

      It is not hate, it is ignorance. Apple Fanbots think that all Apple ideas are actually original. A more correct way to think about them is that Apples implementation of certain ideas are often original and sometimes derivative of others that are far less well know. That is what large companies do, Google included. Go to Amazon and look for Android watches or Cell phone watches. They already exist and have for years in countries outside the US. If you think Google Glass is new you are mistaken. These ideas have been in an out of research labs for 40 years. Initially they are expensive. Eventually some small piece of manufacturing technology enables them to be affordable. Then all the big companies hop in and market you into believing they actually invented it. And so it goes.

  43. Gotta do what apple does by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    Google is already falling into the copy over innovating mode that Microsoft is in. This, the Evernote rip-off and even android went from blackberry rip-off to iPhone rip-off.

  44. A smartwatch isn't a bad idea..... by Hunter+Shoptaw · · Score: 1
    its just been badly executed. Many people I've talked to about this very idea have had the same reaction. We don't want a watch that replaces our smartphone, or has massive computing power (in today's view), but certainly wouldn't mind a watch that, say, could ping a satellite for your location every hour or so and adjust itself to your timezone or download your agenda every night and keep track of your schedule. It certainly beats having to pull out my phone and check my calendar just to see when exactly that appointment was.

    There are great reasons to do this, unfortunately, most manufacturers will forget to Keep It Simple.

  45. Smartwich by zhrike · · Score: 1

    As in smart sandwich ... that's what my brain told the rest of me that word meant in the first few fractions of a second. And frankly, I couldn't care less about a smart watch ... but am now obsessing over the idea of a smart sandwich. "What you want, when you don't even know you want it! SMARTWICH!"

  46. bigger than what you may think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Different sizes will be available, just like smartphones and phablets. I will consider buying a gauntlet-like size device attached to my arm, not an ipod nano-like size.

    At that size, you don't need the device to be complementary of a smartphone or a second-thought device, it can be a full feature device attached to your arm just like a gauntlet, acting as a smartphone.

    Same for Google Glasses, I think this size sucks, but wgat if it was a device à la Cyclop in X-men ?

    What about a bluetooth smart ring that you can talk in with a camera ?

    Welcome to the era of wearable computing. I think struggling manufacturers like HTC should go after a market not yet invested by the big guys.

  47. I'd buy one by mordejai · · Score: 1

    ...But Google will probably kill it next spring, so why bother?

  48. I like high tech watches by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

    Since 2003, i am using a Casio Edifice EFA-114D watch, for the following reasons:

    -Dual analog/digital display
    -Stop watch
    -Timer
    -Light
    -5 alarms and snooze
    -World clock
    -Metal bezel (i tend to melt or break resin because of the weather here)
    -Great battery life (about 5 years)
    -Small round display (i have a slim wrist)

    I have been looking for 2 years for a replacement that does all of the above and more, and haven't find any. The other casio watches that have some other features i actually want (atomic time, barometer, thermometer) are 500$, big and bulky and non metallic bezel.

    I have looked at the Pebble and i think smartwatches are still in their infancy.

  49. The only reason why Apple is making iWatch is because Google came out with Glass. Now Google is making a watch too, which means Apple will follow up with some socially connected set of support underwear.

    Seems like 2013 is all about companies out dumbing themselves creating something nobody wants.

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  50. The best evidence Apple is making a smart watch by Grayhand · · Score: 1

    The fact everyone else is racing to come out with one it feels like a repeat of the iPad launch.

  51. Microsoft is making one too by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

    They'll announce it in two years after the market has proven successful. But by then it will be dominated by other companies and it will be an up hill struggle to get a toe-hold.

  52. Re:fuck google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google *ARE* the circle jerking nerds.

    There, FTFY.

    "Google" in that sentence is singular, numbnuts. It is one company, one entity. If he said "the employees of Google" then you would have had a point. If you're going to correct someone, get your own shit together.

    Nitpick, nitpick nitpick... Google, the people who run it and their entire army of sycophantic fanboys are a bunch of circle jerkers.

  53. Porn on a watch by minstrelmike · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of short Wired article a long time ago about watching porn on 300dpi PDAs.
    Title: If You Do This, You Really Will Go Blind

  54. say hows that Datalink watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still working for ya all?

    The Datalink watch that claimed copatibility with Windows NT and yet could not flash the screen?

    The Datalink watch that programming details were "going to be released" for it?

    Say - where can I go buy a Datalink watch?

    1. Re:say hows that Datalink watch by Stubbyfingers · · Score: 1

      I used to love my datalink watch. For 1990's tech, it was pretty good. I had to retire it with my last CRT monitor, but it was useful to me for all the years I owned it.

  55. My smart watch... by Spugglefink · · Score: 1

    My smart watch has little teeny gears that go round and round, and it tells you what time it is.

  56. Android group = Java crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a pity: the Android group are involved, so it will be be written by poor developers and full of Java crap.

  57. Re:This just in, Google reportedly makes everythin by Branciforte · · Score: 1

    Tools for protecting our privacy?

    You mean, like incognito mode in Chrome? Or a dashboard that lets you enable/disable any feature you distrust? Or enabling https by default on its services? Or two-factor authentication? Or a social site the defaults to sharing with no one, instead of sharing with everyone?

    Oh, never mind. It was just an Anonymous Coward taking a potshot.