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Hands-Free Or Voice-Activated Texting Not Safer

Meshach writes "A recent study (PDF) detailed in the Washington Post verifies that using hands-free or voice-activated texting is no safer than texting with your hands while you are driving a car. Using a handheld device to tap out a text message while driving has been banned in many states and provinces. From the article: '"One of the common comments was that they felt an inclination to look down at the screen to see if it heard them correctly, so that could be one possible explanation of why they were not looking at the roadway more frequently," Yager said. She said drivers said they felt safer when using voice-activated texting than when entering messages on a keyboard. "Perhaps it is because they view it as safer and therefore it must be, but still they have this inclination to look down at the screen," she said. "We found that their driving performance suffered equally with both methods." As has been proven in studies of cellphone conversations, Yager said drivers engaged in any form of texting were distracted by the communication effort.'"

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  1. only partially agree by noh8rz10 · · Score: 3, Informative

    In response to a big push by LEO in CA on the cell phone laws, I recently got one of those dorky 90's dash mounts for my phone. it's great because the phone is pretty much in my line of sight, but it's still distracting to activate the voice sms dictation. So I would say it's MUCH better than doing it by hand, but still not as good as not doing it!

    1. Re:only partially agree by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you have an android phone, I wrote an app, TextSoundly, that automatically detects when you're moving at driving speeds and turns on voice texting/response.

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    2. Re:only partially agree by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Informative

      However, the problem is that this study is only looking at reaction time, which is pretty limited of a measure. This is especially true since its also been found that cell phone accidents are likely not entirely caused by reaction time issues.

      http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/08/why-cell-phone-bans-dont-work.html

      So, bad drivers, the ones who get in accidents don't just use cell phones, they drive more wrecklessly while using them. They choose to use them at particularly dangerous times. They do, exactly what most people choose not to do.

      The problem, quite simply, is not cell phones. They are just the device people have chosen to measure. The problem is not cell phones because, the problem is not reaction time. The problem is judgement and the problem is risk assesment within certain individuals.

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    3. Re:only partially agree by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Yager said drivers engaged in any form of texting were distracted by the communication effort.'"

      The brain can multitask 4 things at any one time, driving a car uses most of the brain's abilities. You throw another distraction into the mix and you're basically 'driving impaired'. I've been a passenger while the driver was engrossed in a hands free conversation staring at his phone on the seat while making his point. I say, "brake... brake.... BRAKE!!!" until he looks up and avoids slamming into the slowed car in front of us.

      Everyone thinks they are the best driver in the world until they aren't. Safely pull over somewhere before you use any electronic gizmo, reach for the item you dropped. Graveyards are filled with too many who died for dumb actions while driving.

    4. Re:only partially agree by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      You really can't multi-task unless it is in your muscle memory.

      What you are really doing is time slicing. And even if it is in your muscle memory, it still takes a time slice- just a smaller one.

      And having a passenger in the car takes another time slice too. More if they are saying something interesting or distracting.

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    5. Re:only partially agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then you're risking lives of 50 other people you're transporting.

    6. Re:only partially agree by ranpel · · Score: 2

      Dock it in the pirate bay and ask people to pay if they like it, preferably before it saves their life. Safety first I'd say.

      It sounds like a requisite function for those that might communicate as if they needn't pay attention to driving and very helpful for those that may know driving requires a good degree of concentration but need and want to communicate anyway. Good luck with your app.

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    7. Re:only partially agree by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In response to a big push by LEO in CA on the cell phone laws, I recently got one of those dorky 90's dash mounts for my phone. it's great because the phone is pretty much in my line of sight, but it's still distracting to activate the voice sms dictation. So I would say it's MUCH better than doing it by hand, but still not as good as not doing it!

      Yep, driving while slightly less distracted is still driving distracted. All it takes is one of those morons who changes lanes without a signal or believes passing with no room to spare will work because you'll see them and you're sunk. Doesn't matter who is right or wrong, if you could have avoided it you could have avoided having your car towed off and dealing with the logistics of being without it. Assuming you survive.

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    8. Re:only partially agree by Belial6 · · Score: 2

      Cell phones also fall prey to confirmation bias. The way the data is collected, is that if a person is using a cell phone, the accident is listed as a cell phone related accident. This is the case even if the driver hasn't slept in three days and the conversation they are having is the only thing keeping them awake while they are legally stopped at a red light and the other vehicle is a car smashing into them from behind because the driver was trying to see their baby in a rear facing car seat that is in the back seat.

    9. Re:only partially agree by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is why I tell my kids, that driving takes 100% concentration. That while most of the time, 50-80% is usually good enough, you can't predict when the asshole in the left lane is going to swerve right three lanes because he is about to miss his exit, because he was too busy getting a BJ from his boyfriend or talking/txting/watching a video on a cell phone.

      The point is, it doesn't matter what the other guy is doing, he is the danger. If you're 100% concentrating on driving you have a much better chance of avoiding the accident. AND that is worth everything.

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    10. Re:only partially agree by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Singing ads.

      Be the first, start a trend!

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    11. Re:only partially agree by interkin3tic · · Score: 2
      This is not the only study to reach this conclusion:

      Jim Hedlund, a safety consultant and former National Highway Traffic Safety Administration official, recently examined 300 cellphone studies for the Governors Highway Safety Association. He couldn't recall a single study that showed drivers talking on a headset or hands-free phone were at any less risk of an accident than drivers with one hand on the wheel and a phone in the other.

      It does add:

      What's missing is hard evidence that accidents are increasing because of cellphone use. One reason is that U.S. privacy laws have made it difficult for researchers to study whether cell phones were in use in accidents in the U.S. The two large studies that have been done — in Canada and Australia — found drivers were four times more likely to have a crash if talking on a cellphone. It didn't matter whether the cellphone was hands-free or hand-held.

      So this is just another bit of evidence that the two are really no different, and there appears to be no suggestion to the contrary, that hands-free using cell phone drivers are as safe as ones not using a cell phone.

      Speaking from personal experience, I do think hands-free cell phone use is distracting in a way that a person sitting next to you isn't. I'm wondering if the connection is out, wondering if they can hear me, fiddling with the phone, making sure the phone isn't falling on the floor, trying to understand what they're saying. Hands free texting, you're making sure if it translated you correctly. And the person on the phone or the phone itself can't say 'HOLYFUCKGOD!!! LOOK OUT!!!" alerting me to a child I'm about to mow down like a passenger in the car with me can.

    12. Re:only partially agree by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 2

      Oh god, don't give developers ideas like that!

      I second that emotion. One of my least favorite things about the web is its habit of competing to have the most obnoxious auto-play videos on the home page, or worse, on deeper pages. Autoplay is to the web what "volume-up!" for commercials is to television: A way to make an unpalatable but necessary facet of the site or programming into a braying, annoying burden to be circumvented. "Volume up!" is one of the top 5 reasons consumers give for using DVRs to zap commercials.

      Personally, I just don't use sites that start braying video at me the moment I hit their homepage--I prefer to listen to music and don't want to hear an advertisement for a car come blaring into me headphones.

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    13. Re:only partially agree by LukeWebber · · Score: 2

      So, bad drivers, the ones who get in accidents don't just use cell phones, they drive more wreckfully while using them.

      FTFY. Unless you meant recklessly that is.

    14. Re:only partially agree by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      I do think hands-free cell phone use is distracting in a way that a person sitting next to you isn't. I'm wondering if the connection is out, wondering if they can hear me, fiddling with the phone, making sure the phone isn't falling on the floor, trying to understand what they're saying.

      You really worry a lot about your cell conversations, don't you?

      For me, the main difference between talking on my cell (bluetooth headset, mind you) and to my wife sitting beside me is that I am much more likely to turn to face my wife when I'm talking to her - on the cell I just watch the road....

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    15. Re:only partially agree by bughunter · · Score: 2

      Either Kerstyun's spelling would benefit from using the speech recognition feature of his device, or he's got a horrible speech impediment.

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    16. Re:only partially agree by mjwx · · Score: 2

      However, the problem is that this study is only looking at reaction time, which is pretty limited of a measure

      But a very, very important measure.

      Reaction time covers the time it takes you for your brain to react, to actually tell you body to do something.

      A 3 second reaction time (not unusual for a tired or distracted human) at 60 KPH means you travel 50 metres before even hitting the brakes, it takes another 18 meters to stop with good tyres on dry bitumen. 60 KPH is not particularly fast either. For a good reaction speed of 0.5 seconds, your reaction distance is 8.5 metres at 60 KPH. So reaction time is quite important as it determine reaction distance.

      So, bad drivers, the ones who get in accidents don't just use cell phones, they drive more wrecklessly while using them

      Did you think that maybe these two behaviours are linked. Someone distracted by their mobile phone will not be paying attention to their vehicle. Very few humans can actually multi-task, for the most part we use time division multiplexing, our brains act like a multithread, single core processor. Put simply, when they are concentrating on their phone, they aren't paying any attention to their driving.

      They are just the device people have chosen to measure.

      The device they are measuring is good, in fact it's very important as it governs the distance you travel before you even react to an unexpected risk, I.E. if a pedestrian who is too busy paying attention to their phone walks out on the road without looking, as demonstrated above, the reaction increases 41 metres over 2.5 seconds, this is the difference between missing the pedestrian and killing them.

      The problem, quite simply, is not cell phones.

      The problem is not just mobile phones, rather the prevailing attitude that people think they are good enough to use a phone whilst driving when in reality, they are dangerous enough when their full attention is on the road (see the Dunning-Kruger Effect). The guy who totalled my parked Supra was on the phone, so distracted he hit a parked car with no other traffic on the road and wrote off the car in a rear end collision (and good luck replacing a mint condition 2001 Supra in 2009).

      As someone who tracks their car regularly, I see a lot of people who think they are so awesome that they can speed and use their phone come to the track, it's no exaggeration that 9 out of 10 of them lose control and spin out into the sand on the first hairpin. Most people have no idea of their limits or their cars limits and knowing these people are on the road, I wont use my phone in the car (I wont take the risk that they'll hit me whilst I'm distracted).

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  2. Eyes on the road! by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If only there was a way to communicate in real time, via 2 way voice...

    Someday.... someday...

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  3. Re:Passengers vs. cell phones by quietwalker · · Score: 2
  4. Re:Passengers vs. cell phones by Derekloffin · · Score: 2

    Apparently not, but they figure the reason for such is the passengers tend to compensate with their own awareness for the distraction they add. Remote people can't compensate in this manner, and obviously the phone itself does not either.

  5. Re:Has more to do with focus than the behavior. by s1d3track3D · · Score: 4, Funny

    unless your Mr. Bean

  6. Re:Here's a thought... by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Studies have shown that bluetooth headsets make no difference when it comes to preventing accidents. The cause is clear, just sit in a car during an in-car conversation and simulate a near accident by stomping the breaks hard without provocation.

    All talking stops instantly and stays stopped during the entire perceived danger. Granted, you may get bruises for freaking everybody out, but you'll understand the point:

    Conversations in a car will never the be the same as a conversation happening with somebody outside the car. People driving with you inadvertently "help" you in a crisis by pausing in their communications during a crisis situation.

    Interestingly, there's a small percentage of people (around 15% or so) for whom talking on a cell phone has no measurable effect on their driving. These are people with the ability to interrupt the conversation flow, saying "just a minute" or simply ignoring the conversation altogether during a crisis.

    If you want training in how to do this, I'd recommend getting a pilot's license. While getting even a basic private license, the number of things you are expected to do precisely, concurrently during takeoff/landing boggles the mind to a newbie coming from a car. You are commonly expected to be manipulating radio controls, rudder controls, Elevator controls, and Aileron controls concurrently while watching a half dozen instruments and chatting with some guy a mile away in a tower.

    You figure out quick how to ignore him when something unexpected happens!

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  7. It does not support that conlusion by geekoid · · Score: 2

    Yet another poor quality study.

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  8. Re:Passengers vs. cell phones by Xtifr · · Score: 2

    And wow, it scares me that someone on Slashdot doesn't know this and had to ask. It's not like it's some big secret that's being supressed or something. The question comes up pretty much every time the hazards of combining cell phones and driving are discussed, and the answer is always the same. Heck, typing in "is talking to a passenger as distracting as talking to a hands-free cell-phone?" into Google gives pages and pages that answer the question.

  9. Regulate us to safety, DC, you're our only hope! by cogeek · · Score: 2

    All they need to do is pass a law prohibiting any sort of distraction in the vehicle. Sunlight, fog, rain, snow, children, radios, cell phones, pagers, books, newspapers, makeup, bad days at work, bad days at home, sun visors, allergies, bodily functions, passengers, etc. etc. Once all the distractions are outlawed, there will never be another accident on the road ever again, proving that the government can indeed regulate us to safety! -------- There really needs to be a "sarcasm" font....

  10. Survey schmuervey by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She said drivers said they felt safer when using voice-activated texting than when entering messages on a keyboard.

    What did cyclists, pedestrians and other drivers think?

    The surviving ones, I mean.

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  11. phone + vehicle = no by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Voice, bluetooth, text, handheld, hendsfree, VoiceToText.....screw you.

    As someone who is waiting on a (too small) settlement check for my destroyed vehicle, all I can say is put the fucking phone away and drive the damn car.
    Texting teen blows a red light at 60, and I'm lucky the only thing destroyed was my vehicle. I am still vertical and breathing.

    Hanging upside down from the seatbelt, covered in broken glass was not the way I wanted to spend the afternoon.

  12. Re:Here's a thought... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    Piloting a plane while talking is very different than talking when driving. For the specific reason you point out - you are trained to engage in specific conversations with specific people using a specific language. When things get difficult, you shut up if at all possible.

    Same with Police, Fire, Ambulance drivers - you have a limited, scripted set of tasks.

    It's not the random babble with bog-knows-what that constitutes random phone conversation.

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  13. Yay for hasty generalization! by Chewbacon · · Score: 2

    Right, they're looking at the screen and it defeats the purpose of voice activated hands free. I use Siri for quick texts while I'm driving. "Tell my wife I'm on my way." Siri says something about sending a text and "Ready to send it?" "Read it." Siri reads it back. "Send it." If Siri is having a deaf moment, I'll leave it alone until I get to a red light or I'll pull off the road if needed. Like condoms for birth control, voice activated hands free is only safer if done right.

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  14. Re:Here's a thought... by Kidbro · · Score: 2

    A bunch of citations in Wikipedia's section about it.

    Quoth http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199702133360701#t=articleResults:

    We observed no safety advantage to hands-free as compared with hand-held telephones. This finding was not explained by imbalances in the subjects' age, education, socioeconomic status, or other demographic characteristics. Nor can it be explained by suggesting that those with units that leave the hands free do more driving. One possibility is that motor vehicle collisions result from a driver's limitations with regard to attention rather than dexterity. Regardless of the explanation, our data do not support the policy followed in some countries of restricting hand-held cellular telephones but not those that leave the hands free.

  15. Re:Here's a thought... by dgatwood · · Score: 2

    Interestingly, there's a small percentage of people (around 15% or so) for whom talking on a cell phone has no measurable effect on their driving. These are people with the ability to interrupt the conversation flow, saying "just a minute" or simply ignoring the conversation altogether during a crisis.

    When there's a serious traffic issue, I don't even have the ability to say "just a minute". My brain locks in on the road, and about a minute later, I say, "I'm sorry, I had to deal with traffic. What were you saying?" I just assumed everyone's brain worked that way. It's part of the basic fight-or-flight response programmed into pretty much all higher forms of animal life. When you sense danger, you freeze and you focus on the situation at hand.

    Who are these 85%, and taxonomically speaking, which kingdom are they classified in?

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  16. Re:Read back by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 3, Informative

    That depends. Are you listening to it to verify that your hands free got it correct? If so, then your brain is occupied doing that instead of driving and it is not any safer than looking at the screen. It isn't the fact that your eyes left the road for a split second, it's that your brain quit the driving task and shifted to the texting task and has to shift back to driving again, meanwhile, your car has traveled a football field or so down the highway without you realizing it.

  17. Re:Here's a thought... by demonlapin · · Score: 2

    That's when you drive with your knee.

  18. Re:Has more to do with focus than the behavior. by uncanny · · Score: 2

    I think what was the most amazing part of that whole video was that they managed to fit an entire studio audience into that little car of his!

  19. Re:Type of Study by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    In the realm of personal anecdotes, I have noticed something that dovetails well with this data. Bad drivers, that is, the people I know who get in more accidents and otherwise drive in ways that make me not want to be a passenger in their car.... they seem to also talk on the cell phone more and... they are the people who never seem to think they have a problem with it.

    What I mean by that is, I have used my cell phone to talk, back when I had a flip phone with physical keys, i would even text. The thing is, I would be careful about WHEN i did these things, and would prioritize driving over them. Frequently if on the phone I would say things like "Hold on a second, I have to change lanes" or "Hold on, I have to drive for a second" to get some space to drive.... the bad drivers I know... I have never once heard them say that. Hell I have taken 5 minutes to type out a three or four word text, just because I didn't feel comfortable sparing more than 1 second at a time off the road....or waited until a red light....or... gotten over to the right lane with the slow pokes for a bit so I could chat.

    On top of that, they tend to be the ones who don't signal, who cut people off, who pull stupid moves to get ahead... will pass people and wave through traffic while on the phone.

    Most phone drivers are annoying because they drive extra slow. They sit at red lights longer than they need to.... exactly the opposite of what this study, and my experience, tell me that bad drivers do.

    Similarly, look at the UK highway safety study that looked at marijuana use came to the conclusion that while they could measure impairment in reaction time... stoned drivers drove with an abundance of caution.

    Or.... to put it the way I came to understand it from my motorcycle safety course.... if you are driving in such a way that your raw reaction time matters, you already fucked up.

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