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Linux 3.9 Released
hypnosec writes "After a week's delay Linux 3.9 has finally been made available by Linus Torvalds. Last week Torvalds released the rc8 stating that he wasn't 'comfy' releasing the final version yet and that 'another week won't hurt.' Torvalds noted in this week's announcement that last week had been very quiet as there were not many commits and the ones which were there were 'really tiny' so he went ahead with the release of Linux 3.9."
Catch up to Windows already !!
Time to finally upgrade those old 3.8 production servers.
and I am running it, and as I was 3.8, and all those predecessors. So what ?
it's not in TFS, not in TFA... what's new in 3.9?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
You have no real idea unless you read the release notes in depth whether 3.8 to 3.9 is a big change or just a bunch of relatively small incremental changes and bug fixes and Linus just fancied upping the minor version number.
Among other things 3.9 includes experimental kernel-level Raid 5 and 6, caching slow of storage devices by fast ones, support for more graphics cards and audio devices, as well as improved power management.
What's wrong with that? That's how release candidates are supposed to work. You already do all your testing before the first rc. After releasing an rc you wait for anyone downstream to report problems. If there are no reports then that your final stage of QA is done and you accept the candidate.
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/What-s-new-in-Linux-3-9-1845705.html
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
KernelNewbies isn't reachable at this time so a nice review of cool new features in Linux 3.9 is available at The H Open.
Live long and propser!
No, just kidding.
Glad I could help:
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/What-s-new-in-Linux-3-9-1845705.html
So, you're waiting for the version where the developers say: "This documents that there are no bugs in this version", like your employer says "this documents that we have told the bank to transfer the money"?
Which OS are you using? The one from the Space Shuttle?
I have an 80GB SSD and a 500GB HDD and I want to use the SSD as dog intended, as a cache for the HDD. bcache is in 3.9, that's great news. it will be mainline in 3.10, that's even better, because it means distributions will support it.
Does it still require reformatting all your volumes? That was lame.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I wouldn't give a fuck as long as the right amount ends up in my bank account.
Furthermore my boss should be doing higher value stuff than regularly monitoring or handling payroll.
Been waiting for that in linux for a while.
This version includes my patches for large HOSTS file support. Previously, the kernel used a fixed buffer size for the HOSTS file entries. relatively largeish (1 million+ entries) overflowed it and entries were dropped. 3.9 will dynamically resize (zero-copy algorithm) so the Linux KERNEL now officially has the best HOSTS file support anywhere.
Thanks for the link. I chased down the dm-cache stuff a bit, looking at it vs. bcache, which we'll see in June, probably. The primary differences seem to be that dm-cache is a bit more generic and easier to work with and it allows some manual allocation of the different types of disk data to be cached, while bcache seems to be targeting SSD's specifically, with wear-leveling sensitive write patterns, use of TRIM, and in-kernel code to validate the cache drives for preventing stupid user tricks.
EnhanceIO might also be targeting 3.10, which is a descendant of flashcache, which uses the layered device approach, while dm-cache and bcache are side-loaded. EnhanceIO uses udev rather than in-kernel code to prevent the stupid user tricks. I got the sense that 3.10 was possible for EnhanceIO but not as certain as bcache.
I'm current using flashcache on my non-ZFS systems; it looks like I'll be waiting for 3.10 and use bcache for my next upgrade.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
What I was saying was that there is a world of difference between a wishy-washy statement of "I guess" and an explicit "I believe".
Firstly, when it comes to kernel testing, no news is usually good news. But it's never a sure thing, and it's hard for one person to test it all.
Second, the newest kernel release is usually considered "bleeding edge", at least as far as enterprise goes. It's never a sure thing. Implying it's a sure thing and will for sure not catch your datacenter on fire is probably a Bad Idea.
Thirdly, who cares if Linus says "guess" or "believe". Both translate to exactly the same thing to me, given the context: "I'm pretty sure this is ok, but don't use this until you've backed up your important cat pictures." It's well known he's a bit bunt. Shit man, just be happy he didn't insult your mother in the header.
...and counting down 3... 2... 1...
But what exactly does this means for my new smartphone? Yes, trolling, but on a serious note, 'linux' dominance is mostly smartphones. The year of (Desktop) Linux never came.
Am just wondering - once Linus is ready w/ the next version, what will he call it? 4.0? Or will he follow the Qt/KDE example and call it 3.10?
I really don't know what you expect. The only time I'd expect him to say "Upgrade NOW!" is if there were something very wrong with the prior release.
Perhaps you've been too immersed in advertisements, so that anything that isn't an ad doesn't sound right? I've NEVER been totally comfortable about any program I've written, and the things I write are small pieces compared to a kernel.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
It'd be nice if they'd build in the patch for bugs like this, which have gone on in multiple distro kernels for years: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/578506?comments=all
I didn't think the house band in Hell would play this badly.
His email says 3.10.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
It will continue to be done as it has always been done. Ergo, it will be 3.10
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
An over-the-top subject line no doubt, but as a Linux (LMDE) home user, I am a little concerned about this wonderful OS ecology apparently in just one Torvalds-shaped basket. It seems odd to me that this experience - where community involvement is so beneficial - has a single person that has total thumbs up / thumbs down power.
Yes, this is mostly Linus' baby, but assuming he's not immortal, how much planning is going into the inevitable transition? History is littered with examples of rapid decline / fall / outright war (aka forking) after the strong, hands-on founder is gone. I don't want something as precious as Linux to be destroyed in interneciene BS as that is just what its many enemies desire and will outright foment.
You have a problem.
P.S. Please stop with the incoherent ranting.
I have a problem: I'm laughing hysterically at your gibberish.
What makes you think this is a kernel bug? It looks like removing the battery and putting it back in solves the issue, so this is more likely an error in the ACPI DSDT of the laptop.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
take a chill pill d00d.
here's to hoping someone prints out their super large hosts file and deposits the output right in your arse.
please, for the love of slashdot, stop feeding that goofball.
You blew it & tried "hiding it" via unjustifiable downmods -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43582011
Just like you tried vainly + effetely hiding my initial post here with its quote from Gandhi -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43581479
Oh, I can see why & ESPECIALLY on that 2nd link (though it's HARD for me to "channel my inner criminal" for trolls like you since I am NOT like you):
That post showed your fail on the topic YOU brought up here in hosts showed you are completely off topic & in blatant error for Linux too, & the details were here on EXACTLY HOW & WHY You FAIL for Windows also -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007 & how many times this week alone? 6 now??
* Accept 1 thing, trolling little worm - I'm NOT going to let you do your effete unjustifiable downmods to "try hide your fail" (which MOST here will see it anyhow since most here browse beneath the stupid default), & again:
YES - I'm having that "last laugh" @ YOUR expense now, funny guy that you are! What I found 'funny' about your post is how easy it is the blow you away & make you appear as stupid as you TRULY, are, lol!
APK
P.S.=> YOU & all those LIKE you? Always FAIL - why??
You're worms - I can't put it any plainer than that! Then again, you know that & your bogus "trolling" proves it all the more not only to myself, but also to others here reading, and perhaps MOSTLY to yourself (and, you know it).
YOU exemplify what I call "not men", lol... no 'small wonder' you post as ac too (and yet you apply downmods from your registered 'luser' account afterwards? Easy enough to do: LOGOUT of your account so its tracking cookie is saved in state, then troll by ac, and relogon to your "registered 'luser'" account afterwards to apply downmods - real "genius" that (not)).
... apk
Replying to both the sibling posts above, shouldn't he then have revs that went 3.01, 3.02....3.10, 3.11.....3.99 and then 4.01...?
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you dolts started it. apk finished it and you ac trolls with it http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3696709&cid=43581479 like he does every time you do it.
Shit man, just be happy he didn't insult your mother in the header.
My mother is a cat picture you insensitive clod.
That would only make sense if the . was a decimal. The dot signifies the break between the major version and the minor version, not parts of whole numbers.
Torvalds is an arrogant control freak who thinks he knows best when it comes to kernel design. The reality is very far from this as Linus has ignored continual flaws in his beloved kernel for years. He may be pope of the Linux kernel but he has no influence over distro developers and their unstructured implementation of GNU userland & third party apps. GNU/Linux has become a chaotic mess because of its fragmentation and lack of proper integration.