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Next SurfaceRT To Come With Qualcomm Snapdragon 800, LTE
recoiledsnake writes "Following up on our previous discussion of Microsoft selling discounted SurfaceRT tablets to schools (which fueled speculation about the future of Surface RT), Bloomberg is now reporting that Microsoft is fast at work on the next Surface RT which will replace the current Tegra 3 with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chip which has stellar benchmarks against the likes of the upcoming Tegra 4, Apple A6X, and Exynos processors, especially in the GPU and graphics department. Since the SoC comes with 3g/LTE, this might be the first Surface to support integrated cellular data. There are also indications that there could be an 8" version, and that the new versions might be revealed alongside the Windows 8.1 preview bits at the upcoming BUILD conference, starting on June 26."
I'm not a big fan of Microsoft, but SurfaceRT has always inspired me. I think it's great that they're getting these in the stores! After all, they are both stronger and better performing than iPads or Android tablets. They also come with many advanced features compared to those two. And don't forget about it - developer integration is well formed and ready for any (big or indie) publisher right out of the box with your latest Visual Studio version.
Bloomberg is now reporting that Microsoft is fast at work on the next Surface RT which will replace the current Tegra 3 with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chip
Will they also replace Windows RT with Windows? Because it seems awfully like they replaced Windows with new Folger's Crystals, and you can taste the difference.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
but it will still be an ARM version of Win8 that isn't compatible with what people want to run right now.
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It's a Surface...
So it can fail faster?
Even though increased hardware performance like computing power, features and increased battery life certainly won't hurt, performance isn't really the problem with Windows RT tablets now is it?
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NeXT is making a SurfaceRT?
I'd assume they would be doing something with some new version of an iPad.
Until and unless they change "Windows" RT so that it lets non-Microsoft applications run on the desktop, no one cares. People aren't writing applications for Metro and aren't going to start. If they opened up the desktop, then at least many existing programs would work with just a recompile.
Why are the EU antitrust authorities letting them get away with this, anyway? (I'd ask the same about the US, but for all intents and purposes we don't *have* antitrust authorities.)
Do we have to go through the the same BS we went through when Windows 8 was in consumer preview. Months of, "I've used Windows 8 since Developer preview, and it's just swell. My five year old loves... blah... blah... blah...".
./, we're the techies that decide how good a product is. Windows 8 is a failure, no one's buying your BS here, find a local news paper to post in.
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MSFT tends to get things right on their third go. Surface is getting Outlook and a start menu in the next month or so. Surface 2 is going to have a higher resolution display. Will it work? Who knows - but they seem to be giving it a serious shake.
with apple sucking up most of the world's money it seems like people think Microsoft will save them again
This is such good news! All the complaints about 'Surface RT' that I've heard so far have centered on how the Tegra3 is too slow, and doesn't have enough LTE. Nothing about how the hilariously perfunctory not-quite-office version of office is deeply touch-unfriendly, or being locked into Microsoft's walled garden store, or the relatively tiny application library. This should fix everything!
RT can come with a pony and i still won't want RT.
It's not compatable with the BILLIONS of windows programs. Not compatable with the millions of nix programs without major work. Not compatable with the thousands of mac programs.
It's compatable with nothing.
It's shit. Stop telling me it's not shit just because you fucked up and still want my money.
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"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
with apple sucking up most of the world's money it seems like people think Microsoft will save them again
I am not even sure what this means, if you are referring to the fact that Apple managed to launch a successful *tablet* and siphon up most of the early adopter money. As it did with the the Mp3 Player(The only market Apple managed to maintain in the lead in both the maturing...and now its decline), and Smartphone...the Tablet...Microsoft failed to compete with *All* of them. Its no secret of how they have managed to Destroy Nokia...a company Huawei said they would not buy this week because of its choice of Windows Phone OS. Its no secret that Android currently dominates the smartphone market...and nothing (in the short term) is going to stop that Apples market share is about 15%. The same is happening right now with the tablet market again...something the Surface RT is (with a sad keyboard gimmick), Android is unsurprisingly also outselling Apple in Tablets, and again the margin continues to widen.
The hilarious thing about your post, now Apples profits are dropping, is that Android succeeded by being more consumer and manufacture friendly (Literally it gives it away) than Apple. Ironically Microsoft have been a massive failure by copying Apples (failing in a maturing market) consumer hostile and Manufacture hostile approach.
And all 15 of the people that bought, and kept, their Surface RT tablets are now going to be pissed at the 6 month product lifecycle.
With the deep discounts that Microsoft is giving on these things, they're getting dangerously close to "we can't even give them away."
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This article isn't about a desktop, it's about the Surface RT... a tablet.
Windows 8 tuns all computing devices into poor tablets with keyboard gimmick. So I'm not really sure what you are arguing.
The Good: RT gets us into ARM and it leaves behind a ton of baggage that has hindered good development on MS platforms.
The Bad: Microsoft can't market their way out of a wet paper sack. Looking at the commercials all I can tell is there's a snap on keyboard and people in Washington State like to dance. Moreover, even the BlackBerry Tablet had a bigger release profile and certainly better availability in stores. All of this lead to very few apps and developers that threw their lot in with RT early on getting burned.
The Ugly: Do a Pro Tablet, or do a RT tablet. Don't do both. Consumers have no idea what the difference is. The ones that bought an RT tablet feel pretty underwhelmed by the app availability.
The Good: RT gets us into ARM and it leaves behind a ton of baggage that has hindered good development on MS platforms.
I personally agree with you that Windows reliance(and advantages) of Intel and X86 have come to the end of their usefulness for Microsoft, and is now a massive albatross around its neck. At least they both get to sit with their 70% profit margins. Perhaps they should have done something sooner...or at least compete on price(Still find it hilarious that Apple haven't with their dropping profits)...at least they still have the lacklustre desktop market, unless Chrome...or got forbid a manufacture gets serious about GNU/Linux.
I vote for Chromebook, because it takes the open Linux operating system and cripples it in a vicious way to make it everything that open source is against - a crippled walled garden where you can't run your own software. At least MS is honest - they're locking down their already proprietary OS and making a compelling case for open source.
There are plenty of other reasons to buy a Windows tablet over iPad..
If there where you would be arguing on those points. The frightening thing is Android manufacturers now outsell the iPad in the tablet market, is the shrinking iPad market(closed devices sold on brand rather than substance) really the market Microsoft should be chasing.
Since this is obviously coming from a microsoft marketing guy, next time tr not to make your story so obvious that its a sham.
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Windows Phone OS was constantly talked about as the CPU(s) didn't matter.. that was back when WP7 couldn't use more than one CPU. Now the CPU speed is important? These people, Microsoft, are pathetic and a waste in this industry after all these years. And look at there XBox how they are so messed up with what their customers want they have to let public outcry dictate policy changes. Nice research department those people just have if they had no clue always-phone-home wasn't going to be a problem.
Windows 8 and Windows RT on tablets and phones is still in the single digits for market share so why does anyone care? We don't see RIM getting this kind of attention and press do we? Enough with wasting time on Microsoft in tablet and phone space until they are worthy of the time and attention.
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Now you can run all your favourite Windows applications even faster than before!
Oh wait...
Actually, leaving aside the built-in apps (of which the only really performance-sensitive one is IE), it's actually pretty easy to enable running traditional Windows apps on Windows RT. The "jailbreak" script is public and dead easy to use. .NET apps will run un-modified. Native ones need to be recompiled, but there's already quite a few which have been (including a number of games, which will definitely benefit from improved performance). Alternatively, there's also an x86 dynamic recompilation layer which allows running native apps unmodified (handy since most Windows apps are closed source and thus can't be easily recompiled) although the performance is of course not great (which means that a faster CPU will help a lot there too).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2130
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So how does the performance and energy consumption stack up to a new Haswell x86 chip?
Although MSFT claimed to lock down WinRT to force developers to target Metro so there would be lots of tablet friendly apps instead of win32 ports, my theories as to why MSFT really decided to have a locked down WinRT...
1. They are mostly using WinRT as a lever against Intel to get them to reduce the margins on x86 chips so that they can compete against android in the low-end tablet space w/ x86 chips. If this strategy is successful and intel capitulates, they didn't want too many consumer WinRT ARM win32 binaries floating in the wild to support as they drop support for ARM.
2. They wanted to sell unlocked versions to enterprises at a higher price.
3. Available ARM SOCs are 32-bit and the GPUs don't yet have universal support for DX10 (the minimum required for win8) and they don't want developers to go back a generation to the lowest common denominator just to pickup WinRT compatibility as that would undermine the upgrade cycle component of their business.
4. They didn't want to support malware/anti-virus on ARM (maybe because of $$$ supporting too many platforms or maybe slow performance on ARM).
All these reasons could change in the future, but they were probably important during the original launch (and thus they flipped the flag to lock it down).
you may be too young to remember, but the NT family - which includes Win7 and Win8 - has always come on multiple architectures
By "multiple" you mean x86-32, x86-64 and IA64, right? Or do you mean further back when NT4 ran on MIPS, Solaris, and Power?
Don't forget DEC Alpha, I had one of those beasts on my desk a couple of decades ago.
And I think you mean Sparc not Solaris, but NT didn't support that either way.