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Ballmer To Retire

Today Microsoft announced that CEO Steve Ballmer will be retiring within the next 12 months. He said, "There is never a perfect time for this type of transition, but now is the right time. ... My original thoughts on timing would have had my retirement happen in the middle of our company’s transformation to a devices and services company. We need a CEO who will be here longer term for this new direction." Ballmer, 57, has been Microsoft's CEO since taking over the role from Bill Gates in January, 2000. The company's board of directors has formed a committee to find a replacement for Ballmer, and he will continue his duties until a new CEO is found. Questions about Ballmer's fitness to remain CEO have been circulating for the past several years, particularly after the company struggled to get a foothold in the mobile market. It will be interesting to see how this affects Microsoft's stock price. Upon retirement, Ballmer will be able to cash out hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Microsoft stock.

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  1. In the next 12 months... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    He can't even retire properly, should have done so years ago.

    Chairs just won't fly around the same without him

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    1. Re:In the next 12 months... by Stuarticus · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hear that Dell are organising a 21 chair salute.

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    2. Re:In the next 12 months... by NeoTron · · Score: 5, Funny

      The next guy will throw developers at chairs.

    3. Re:In the next 12 months... by OakDragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      He needs 12 months because his retirement is behind schedule. And of course, just days after his retirement, he will have to download all the new retirement patches and Retirement Service Pack 2.0.

    4. Re:In the next 12 months... by polyp2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was thinking that in response to the Steve Jobs crowdfunding initiative to build a sculpture - perhaps we could celebrate this by crowdfunding a giant statue of Ballmer flinging a chair!

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    5. Re:In the next 12 months... by KernelMuncher · · Score: 4, Funny

      Better yet a giant statue of Ballmer with chairs all around it that people can pick up and fling at it

    6. Re:In the next 12 months... by Nyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      He can't even retire properly, should have done so years ago.

      Chairs just won't fly around the same without him

      Hope they tell him not to let the chair hit him on the way out.

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    7. Re:In the next 12 months... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Investors voice their opinion when a CEx quits, usually by selling. m$ stock went up, maybe more investers are favoring Linux?

      It's about the most visible slap in the face to a CEO one can imagine - In one voice, from those who matter most to him it says, "We're glad you are leaving, please make it soon."

      It may be lonely at the top, but this makes it humiliating, as well.

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    8. Re:In the next 12 months... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Up more than 6% at the moment.

      Drop from 10% up, typical profit taking. Probably Bill unloading a chunk.. more money to combat malaria and such

      "Steve, could you do that again next week, the announcing your impending retirement?"

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    9. Re:In the next 12 months... by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would say they have spent the past few years burning their bridges more than the one giant fail that is a shark jump. it would be like you heard the next town over has incredible mansions and great jobs that pay a fortune...so you take a torch to your home and place of business without even bothering to see if the next town over will have you because "hey how could anybody resist me, didn't you hear I was a star 10 years ago?".

      MSFT had 3 golden geese that consistently brought in good money, they may not have set the world on fire but they still brought in piles of cash, and that was Windows desktop, server, and MS Office...so what has Ballmer crapped all over these past few years because the press is going "Mobile mobile mobile ZOMFG CELLPHONES!"? Why Windows desktop, server, and MS Office of course! It takes a special kind of hubris and arrogance to ignore every single bit of data and metric you are shown yet that is EXACTLY what Ballmer has done over and over AND OVER. From everybody pointing out the Zune was big, bulky, and offered nothing over the iPod to Win 8 not working worth a shit except on the teeny tiny niche that is Windows tablets and touchscreen laptops, it didn't matter how many screamed "THIS FUCKING SUCKS!" Ballmer just gave them the finger while sticking out his tongue, thinking that just sticking a WinFlag on something was enough to make it a hit.

      If there is anything we should take away from the Ballmer years it is this, focusing only on what Wall Street cares about while ignoring your customers is a recipe for massive failure, that all the advertising in the world isn't gonna make people buy something they can't fucking stand, all you are doing is pissing money down the drain. By remaining myopic in his focus on making MSFT into Apple Steve Ballmer threw out every strength they had and thought that advertising and name recognition alone could push through changes that benefited ONLY MSFT while giving the person buying the product the finger. The lesson the next CEO should take from this is that you can put sprinkles and glitter and make videos of people dancing with a pile of fresh poo but that ain't gonna make people suddenly want to go out and buy poo, you have to offer them something they actually want to buy.

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    10. Re:In the next 12 months... by Blue+Stone · · Score: 3, Funny

      From throwing chairs to rocking them.

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  2. Good news for stockholders by neurovish · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...in response, Microsoft's stock jumps up 10%

    1. Re:Good news for stockholders by halfEvilTech · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually opened $2.78 up or about 8.7% so yea basically

    2. Re:Good news for stockholders by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ....I swear I didn't look up the stock quote before posting. Microsoft is really up 8.5% right now.

      Good guess, but I think you mostly mirrored what a lot of people think -- that clearly Ballmer hasn't fully understood the market in some places, and that Microsoft has had some misses lately.

      Those are the kinds of things that, while not personally responsible for every detail, Ballmer as CEO gets to 'own' and take the blame for.

      Microsoft may or may not fare better without Ballmer, but if the market watchers are looking at things which could bring Microsoft out of these doldrums, then the perception that his departure could change is bound to lift the stock.

      Of course, this being the stock market, everybody is going to be buying and selling now based on what they think will be happening in 12 months or more from now -- and in 12 months, they'll be doing it based on something totally unrelated to this.

      I will be interested to see if the next CEO is so arrogantly out of touch with what people want, or will continue with the standard party line of "we can do no wrong and people really want these things" even when nobody is buying them.

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    3. Re:Good news for stockholders by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That and NASDAQ was down yesterday due to a computer glitch. Chances are investors are doing double time to get back.

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    4. Re:Good news for stockholders by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But it looks like chair manufacturers' stocks have dropped 20%

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    5. Re:Good news for stockholders by AndyAndyAndyAndy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nasdaq had switched to Windows earlier in the day...

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    6. Re:Good news for stockholders by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the next CEO has a few big challenges on his hands. I'd highlight three in particular:

      First, he needs to get the company out of the mindset that has it still behaving as though it commands monopoly power. It doesn't, or at least, it doesn't in many of the markets where it now needs to compete. It found that out with with the XBox One launch, where it thought that it had the power to force customers to accept things they didn't want to, then was forced into an embarrassing U-turn when Sony offered a viable alternative. It is finding that out in the mobile and tablet marketplaces, which it came to as a late entrant and failed to provide reasons for people to switch. And it's about to find that out on the desktop, where the message coming through on Windows 8 is that even die-hard Windows users will bide their time and see what else comes along rather than making the shift to an operating system that forces unwanted changes onto them.

      Second, he needs to sort out communications. MS does have some good products. The Surface is by no means bad - but it was marketed via that whole incomrpehensible break dancing thing. The XBox One is turning into a decent product (thanks to the aforementioned U-Turns), but every time MS speaks about it, their message comes over as either an apology or a horribly mis-aimed pitch for TV services. MS needs to stop being afraid of selling its products on the basis of its features, rather than coming over like an embarrassing parent trying to be trendy at a teen disco. The obvious answer to the old "I'm a Mac, he's a PC" advertising slur was "yeah, Mac guy looks pretty, but he's actually useless. Look at what PC guy can do". They always seemed curiously afraid to go there.

      Thirdly, judging by the stories that come out of the company, the new CEO needs to sort out some of the staffing and corporate culture issues. MS increasingly looks and sounds like a public sector bureaucracy. Its stack-ranking system in particular is a cack-handed system that's been demonstrated to destroy morale and drive down performance wherever it's used. If MS doesn't want to reduce the size of its workforce, then it needs to adapt its organisation structures in such a way that they actually enable an organisation of that size to respond to new challenges flexibly. That probably means a lot more internal devolution (including over staffing issues).

    7. Re:Good news for stockholders by olsmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which mean Ballmer made about a billion dollars. Joke's on us.

    8. Re:Good news for stockholders by RogueyWon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The big thing? Games...

      Apple's been culturally hostile to gaming for most of its history. And yet it remains a huge driver of home computer sales and platform choice - but it never so much as figures in MS's OS advertising.

    9. Re:Good news for stockholders by RaceProUK · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Gaming's no longer a Windows stranglehold, not since Steam was ported to OSX and Linux. Windows is still #1 for games, but the gap is closing.

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    10. Re:Good news for stockholders by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the next CEO has a few big challenges on his hands. I'd highlight three in particular:

      First, he needs to get the company out of the mindset that has it still behaving as though it commands monopoly power. It doesn't, or at least, it doesn't in many of the markets where it now needs to compete. It found that out with with the XBox One launch, where it thought that it had the power to force customers to accept things they didn't want to, then was forced into an embarrassing U-turn when Sony offered a viable alternative. It is finding that out in the mobile and tablet marketplaces, which it came to as a late entrant and failed to provide reasons for people to switch. And it's about to find that out on the desktop, where the message coming through on Windows 8 is that even die-hard Windows users will bide their time and see what else comes along rather than making the shift to an operating system that forces unwanted changes onto them.

      Microsoft need to spin off XBox. They are an enterprise technology/consumer technology company and this foray into home entertainment is not within their core. Heck, why not buy a movie studio and a chain of fast food restaurants while they are at it. Sell it off, hold a stake in if they wish, but get their attention back to technology.

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    11. Re:Good news for stockholders by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's closing, but only very slowly. Check the number of Mac games on Steam and it's still tiny.

      If one or two big publishers were to say "we no longer target Windows as a platform, instead we target Steam, which means PC, Mac (plus Linux?)" that might change things.

      But publishers generally need a lot of convincing to do that kind of thing and Apple's attitude is such that they will never even put out the feelers.

      No, gaming is moving away from computers, period. Mostly due to high piracy rates. It's also helped by Apple's more... favorable stance towards gaming (Jobs was not a fan of games, and in fact, wanted to ban games from the Mac way back in 1984).

      Thing is, gaming's moved on. The PC had high piracy rates and extreme avoidance of DRM, so AAA publishers started moving towards consoles (which were getting more powerful at the time that it was doable).

      Then Apple opened the App Store, which despite its approval requirements, thousands of indie devs flocked there and made mobile gaming a huge thing. In fact, a casualty of this was the casual arcade - a $2B industry in 2007, which collapsed to a mere $300M in 2008. These were from arcade machines that were put in places like a Laundromat and such and were played while people waited. In 2008, with the release of the App Store, people were gaming on their phones instead of putting quarters in the machine.

      Sure we all mock how mobile games are crap (like anything, 90% of it IS crap), but it's a powerful force - how indie devs have prospered on the PC, and now iOS and Android. And the platforms have shifted too - fewer games are Windows-only and use of cross platform (iOS/Android/Windows/OS X/Linux/etc) tools have made most indie games available on at least three platforms - either Windows/iOS/Android, or Windows/OS X/Linux.

      Gaming on Windows is mostly due to it "just being there" - we're talking desktop OS with 90+% marketshare. But a number of hours spent playing is taken up on iOS and Android as well. And AAA titles are more or less mostly on consoles now - few PC only devs exist (Valve, Blizzard being most prominent, but Valve now makes for OS X and Linux, and Blizzard is going to consoles).

      Windows' days as a gaming platform are heavily numbered - most games are available on other platforms or even completely platform independent (browser based gaming).

    12. Re:Good news for stockholders by RogueyWon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Disagree very strongly here. PC gaming is in a much better place than it was a few years ago. Back then, it was a toss-up as to whether the PC got a port of major multi-platform console games and, if it did, it usually got the crappy port. For the last 12 months or so, the PC has been the primary platform for most releases. The piracy rates and DRM-avoidance thing is a rather tired straw-man. PC gamers accept Steam DRM. Developers mostly live with the fact that somebody really determined can break Steam DRM.

      The next-gen console may shift the balance back to the consoles. That's what usually happens early in a console cycle. If so, it will be a temporary thing (just as the current console decline is probably a temporary thing).

      The App Store looked potent a couple of years ago, but it's losing momentum as a gaming platform - largely because of diminishing returns on IAP laden pay-to-win games. The bubble on those has already burst - Zynga and the other companies which rode the crest of it are now going to the wall.

      PC gaming has been "dying" ever since I first started playing PC games myself in 1990. It's no more dying now than it was then.

    13. Re:Good news for stockholders by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What about other wholly valid choices, like malicious, insane, or sadistic?

      I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that, as CEO, he actually did intend to make the company do better.

      If someone truly wanted to put a company like Microsoft into the shitter, it's do-able, but takes a lot of effort. And you have to assume there are other people around who would be trying to stop it.

      So, to me at least, it comes down to if Microsoft going forward is going to be capable of truly understanding what aspects of successful products people want, and actually being able to execute on delivering that. In the past, Microsoft has usually missed the boat on the execution and kept coming back to "Office + Outlook" as the entire purpose behind computers.

      It's like when the first iMacs came out -- people rushed to put Windows machines in lovely candy colored cases, but underneath was the same old crashy turd. It wasn't just the bright colored cases that made it successful, it was the actual user experience.

      If you only copy the superficial stuff and think that's close enough, you may never actually understand why your product isn't doing as well -- because all you see is that you also have a tangerine colored case, and people clearly want tangerine colored cases, so why aren't they buying your tangerine colored case?

      If you don't realize that customers don't like the toxic fumes and broken glass in your product, you keep looking at the case. They're not just buying your competitor for the pretty case, but because they don't want the toxic fumes and broken glass you're giving them.

      And I think it's that where Microsoft has been missing the plot the last few years.

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  3. Ballmer leaving. by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm so happy I could throw a chair!

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    1. Re:Ballmer leaving. by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is that you Steven Sinofsky?

  4. Hurray for Microsoft by GrBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This may be the best thing that's happened to Microsoft in a long time. Perhaps they will get their clarity back again. I can't help but wonder if there's a deeper story here though, like his abysmal performance causing a backlash to force him out 'gracefully'.

    1. Re:Hurray for Microsoft by spd_rcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Best news I've heard from a local employer in years !
      Now to see if it's not too late to save the company after he's driven off so many of their top, talented people.

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  5. CNN breaking news headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Microsoft says CEO Steve Ballmer will retire within 12 months. No successor named. Stock surges."

    Captcha: finally

  6. Still funny as hell by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is never a perfect time for this type of transition, but now is the right time.

    I love how he can state something as truth at the beginning of a sentence and then make a fool of himself by the end of it.

    1. Re:Still funny as hell by virg_mattes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't see any disparity. "Right" in this context means "best" so it doesn't contradict "perfect".

      Virg

    2. Re:Still funny as hell by avandesande · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  7. Re:Surface by geek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Failure of Windows 8
    Failure of Xbox One
    Failure of Vista
    Failure of the Kin
    Failure of the Zune
    Failure of Windows Phone 7
    Failure of Windows Phone 8
    Need I go on? You can only fuck up so many times before the board sends you packing. I'm amazed he lasted this long.

  8. What Microsoft needs by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is to just hire Sinofsky back and give him carte blanche to fire anyone and everyone who supported Ballmer as a job perk. With the chance to fire the woman who forced Metro on him as a job perk, they could probably get him more reasonable on the compensation package.

    1. Re:What Microsoft needs by asm2750 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I would like to see Microsoft try to get Ray Ozzie back but, he seems more focused on his startup.

  9. Chair-monkey retires, stock up 9% by 1s44c · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I only hope he is replaced with someone as ineffective as he was. The last thing the world needs is an evil monopolist running Microsoft who actually knows what he is doing.

    1. Re:Chair-monkey retires, stock up 9% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the better outcome would be if he were replaced by someone who turns Microsoft into a non-evil success company. I prefer a successful good to a failing evil.

  10. Ballmer is evidence of the role of luck in life by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Based on his overall personality, I strongly suspect that if Steve Ballmer hadn't just happened to be college buddies with BillG and Paul Allen, chances are pretty good he'd be selling used cars somewhere and enjoying the nearest football team. Instead, we're going to take him seriously for the rest of his natural life and possible beyond.

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  11. Re:They are still screwed by 1s44c · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not that Microsoft is 'late to the party', it's simply that they make bad products.

    Apple was late to the tablet party but ended up dominating it with pretty and functional products.

  12. Steve Jobs Still A Better CEO by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they dig Steve Jobs up and put him in charge now, he'd do a better job than Ballmer ever did!

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    1. Re:Steve Jobs Still A Better CEO by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Informative

      He was a borderline mental patient who did everything he could to try and ruin Apple but his staff and board and engineers reined him back into reality so they could release sort of good products. I wouldn't put Steve Jobs in charge of walking my dog because somehow he'd find a way to overheat it and embed a non-removeable battery in it.

  13. There *was* a perfect time by msobkow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There was a perfect time for the transition:

    • Before Windows 8 was approved
    • Before Windows RT was approved
    • Before Windows Phone and Nokia was approved
    • Before Office 365 online was approved

    Avoiding those disastrous products would have made Microsoft billions, and those decisions were made by you, Ballmer.

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  14. Re:Truthful by 1s44c · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My prayers have been answered.

    How so? Do you have a lot of Microsoft stock or you just hate the IT world and want it to suffer more years of monopoly abuse?

  15. That should be a +6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's the first non-lame chair joke I heard in a long time.

  16. Nobel Prize as CEO by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, his successor is the one that will get one, whoever he is just for not being Ballmer.

  17. Death knell for Metro by JDG1980 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think this "retirement" (which probably wasn't as voluntary as Ballmer and MS are pretending) spells doom for Metro, at least on the desktop. Virtually no one outside of MS actually likes it. The only reason why they haven't backed down on Metro on the desktop before now is that it is Ballmer's baby and he doesn't want to admit he screwed up. The next CEO will likely not have any such attachment, and will probably be much more willing to ditch Metro in response to market demands – or at least allow it to be an option that can be turned off completely, for a Win7-style experience.

    Microsoft's foray into portable devices has been an abject failure. The smartest thing to do would be to focus on the business licenses that actually bring in the big bucks. That means stability, familiarity, and backwards compatibility – not flashy touch BS meant to appeal to non-technical home users.

  18. At least eight years too late... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The damage Mr. Ballmer has done to Microsoft in the past eight years is strategic and structural. His successor will have an enormous uphill battle to turn the company around.

  19. Re:Ballmer made $20 billion for investors today by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is funny that the value of MSFT with Ballmer in it is $20 Billion less than MSFT without Ballmer in it!

    Today, on the initial news, based on speculative market players making trades ... by next week the price of Microsoft will be fluctuating on some other random basis.

    I've always found the stock market to be amusing -- because it makes huge swings on things which haven't happened yet, and by the time those things happen they've moved on to being excited/angry about something else entirely.

    It's almost as if the stock market is more valuable at predicting the emotions of investors, than any actual financial factors. And in many cases, the actual financials don't seem important -- like when companies are worth more than they're going to earn for the next 20 years.

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  20. Disagree by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is bad news, having Ballmer in charge of MS is a good thing as he was slowly mismanaging the company into the ground. A successor could be more competent.

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    1. Re:Disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, no. Look at MSFT ticker, it's up nearly 10%.

      In summary: the fact that people like like you are on this website is a good indicator of why it is becoming fucking annoying to any person who actually knows anything.

    2. Re:Disagree by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is bad news, having Ballmer in charge of MS is a good thing as he was slowly mismanaging the company into the ground. A successor could be more competent.

      Listening to financial and investment analysts this morning, not one has a kind word for Steve. He has missed every big thing while pushing Zune, Windows Vista and then Windows 8, the XBox (games are working well for Atari, right?) Metro (which may be very cool to 10% of users) the RT tablet fiasco, honestly, why does this man actually receive bonuses? He's had the company coasting along on markets it was strong in, without creating new markets. Hardly visionary.

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    3. Re:Disagree by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is bad news, having Ballmer in charge of MS is a good thing as he was slowly mismanaging the company into the ground. A successor could be more competent.

      Bad news for competitors ... if Microsoft pick a replacement with the vision and ruthlessness of an older, wiser Steve Jobs. Even half a Jobs would turn Microsoft around from the stagnating business it has become.

      Easy shoes to fill, because even Goofy could have done as well.

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    4. Re:Disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do you want Microsoft to fail? They are no longer a monopoly. Competition is good.

    5. Re:Disagree by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're a very bad influence on the industry and are still trying to regain their monopoly (see: UEFI secure boot).

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    6. Re:Disagree by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The funny thing is, the market agrees with you. Thus, based on the jump in Micro$oft stock price, and looking at the amount of stock Ballmer owns, he made nearly a billion dollars by quitting.

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    7. Re:Disagree by MrHanky · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If stock price is anything to go by, then Microsoft has been a stable multi-billion dollar corporation throughout Ballmer's reign. Microsoft needs to change, but their presumed failure has, so far, been a mighty success compared to most other survivors of the .com crash.

    8. Re:Disagree by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

      Even half a Jobs would turn Microsoft around from the stagnating business it has become.

      In this economy, good luck finding even a part-time-Jobs.

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    9. Re:Disagree by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd be willing to quit his job for half that.

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    10. Re:Disagree by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One bright spot is Apple blatantly ripping off Metro for iOS 7, which is both a compliment to Microsoft and a way Apple may lose market share in portables.

      There's a few things that MS have done that are fairly good. The UI for WinMo 7 / 8 is good; they're looked at the rest of the market, and they've genuinely tried to improve on that. Equally, the XBox Kinect was an innovative product that truly deserves credit.

      And yet, once these products finally reach market, once upper management have decided how the market should be segmented, how the product will be marketed, it turns to shit. And that's the kind of "magic" that Ballmer brought to the table. That's what he did best... screw things up.

    11. Re:Disagree by dywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      all companies want a monopoly. microsoft isnt unique in this regard. monopoly/homogenization is one of the natural products/extremes of a competitive market.

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    12. Re:Disagree by tehlinux · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, the zune was awesome and I'd say the same thing about my surfce rt.

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    13. Re:Disagree by jbolden · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He transitioned Microsoft from being a desktop company to selling a range of server solutions which are quite profitable. He pushed Microsoft up market. He didn't do much in consumer he did a ton in enterprise and the growth in sales shows that.

    14. Re:Disagree by Alef · · Score: 4, Interesting

      With the risk of sounding a bit flamy, but haven't Microsoft always usually been second to market? I would say the problem in recent years has been that the other players have been a too strong (Google, Apple, Sony, Samsung) and the new markets a bit too tangential (phones, music players, tablets, game consoles) for Microsoft to be able to wield their desktop/office space monopoly effectively. So their normal strategy -- wait until someone does something good, copy it, strong-arm your way into that market segment and push them out -- doesn't work so well any more.

    15. Re:Disagree by jon3k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Kinect was a interesting product that they under-captilized on. Why weren't they able to do with motion tracking what Apple did with touch based interfaces? Build an entire new ecosystem of products and services that never existed before? Meanwhile, Apple was building vertically integrated empires in product categories they created (there was no "tablet market" before apple. There was a spattering of shitty products with zero mass consumer appeal). But if all we can point to as the "success" of Steve Ballmer's microsoft is the Kinect the poor guy did a worse job than I realized.

    16. Re:Disagree by oreiasecaman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Equally, the XBox Kinect was an innovative product that truly deserves credit.

      They didn't invent it though, they licensed the most critical parts

      http://www.primesense.com/casestudies/kinect/

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    17. Re:Disagree by Shark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who knows? He might even get ousted after a huge sex scandal that shades what you listed. Think about it.

      Why would you bring something like that up? Now I pictured him humping a secretary grunting "Developper Developper Developper!" and my brain bluescreened.

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  21. Re:They are still screwed by neurovish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not that Microsoft is 'late to the party', it's simply that they make bad products.

    Apple was late to the tablet party but ended up dominating it with pretty and functional products.

    As far as tablets go, Microsoft was there before Apple....they just did it wrong. It's kind of like Microsoft throws a party and nobody shows up. Then Apple throws a party, has the Rolling Stones there, and then everybody shows up. So Microsoft has another party with a Rolling Stones cover band and wonders why nobody is showing up.

    Every once in awhile they come out with something good, but it's a few years too late...take the latest Zune. Too bad everybody was using their phones to play mp3s by that time.

  22. Re:Surface by Saint+Gerbil · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its a bit harsh to say the Xbox One has failed sure its had some bad press and the flip flopping on policies that has followed.
    But its not out yet.
    And its still sold out nearly everywhere like the PS4.

    It would be fair to say it in 12 months time when he is leaving (whatever state it's in then)

  23. The Captain has left the building by NormAtHome · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Looks like the Captain of the Titanic is fleeing the sinking ship, after he turned the ship right into that iceberg.

  24. Re:Balmer by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's featured in Pirate of Silicon Valley: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/

    He's actually one of the more agreeable characters (and voiced by John Di Maggio aka the voice of Bender)

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  25. Re:Surface by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A lot of this I would say isn't Microsoft's fault for the failures. But other disruptive technologies forcing them to move faster then a company its size.

    Apple in essence gave up Macs as their business model going to smaller devices.
    the iPod only really loss its dominance after other companies started making Smart Phones, there was never an iPod killer, the iPod killer with the iPhone.
    the iPhone in essence gave Apple a 2 year head start in the smart phone market, causing other companies to play catch-up including Microsoft. During this head start they were able to get a bunch of apps, and also push the iPad tablet market, giving an other year push.

    Microsoft was working on their own future plans, but was disrupted by Apple, and all its other competitors following suit.

    Microsoft is the Desktop Market. They were planning new and great things for the desktop, as seen with Windows 7, which really did shut Apple up in their I am a Mac and I am a PC adds. But their name is so connected to desktop it was a hard sell to reach out of it.

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  26. Re:Ballmer made $20 billion for investors today by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given the direction that MS has been in for 5 years and the fact they are in such a hard sealed corporate bubble, hiring Carly (and Carly's mouth) would not be a very big surprise. She's got the ego the size of Africa and she's never right about anything. It seems an appropriate substitute for Ballmer.

  27. Hazaa! by onyxruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This will be the best thing to happen to Microsoft in many years. Ballmer alienated customers, the public, the press, their employees, the enterprise and those who made their career out of Microsoft's products. 8.1's start button instead of start menu was the nail in the coffin for many, many people from a sheer contempt standpoint. Getting rid of technet and a hundred other things that showed their customers were viewed with contempt as the the enemy can all be cited as examples of why he had to go.

  28. Re:Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's easy to cherry pick. Watch, I can do it too-

    Success of Windows 7
    Success of Windows Server
    Success of SQL Server
    Success of Azure
    Success of XBOX 360
    Success of XBOX Live
    Success of Office 365
    Success of Lync
    Success of SharePoint

    Looky here, my list is longer than yours.

  29. 12 months left on his Windows Phone contract ... by perpenso · · Score: 4, Funny

    He needs 12 months because his retirement is behind schedule. And of course, just days after his retirement, he will have to download all the new retirement patches and Retirement Service Pack 2.0.

    No. He has 12 months left on his Windows Phone contract. Days after retirement he will get an iPhone 5S.

  30. Re:Truthful by dunezone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How so? Do you have a lot of Microsoft stock or you just hate the IT world and want it to suffer more years of monopoly abuse?

    Its amazing that people still talk about Microsoft being a monopoly. The boogeyman of the late 90's and early 2000's is long gone.

    Markets Microsoft currently controls:

    • Desktop Operating Systems
    • Office Suites

    Markets Microsoft currently fights for control:

    • Servers
    • Databases
    • Home Gaming

    Markets either Microsoft lost or cant put a dent into:

    • Web Browser
    • Mobile Operating Systems
    • Tablet Operating Systems

    The monopoly just doesn't exist anymore The government stepped in over the monopoly and forced their hand. So Microsoft entered markets that already existed and their products either flopped or fight for market share. The markets they did control like Web Browser saw increased competition and eventually Microsoft lost their grip which forced them to heavily improve Internet Explorer while continuing to lose market share. And the markets they still own they own because well the competition cant seem to put a dent into the market.

  31. Correction by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Questions about Ballmer's fitness to remain CEO have been circulating for the past several years, particularly after the company struggled to keep a foothold in the mobile market.

    LMFTFY. MS had Windows Mobile and Windows Tablets before the iPhone and iPad. They were uninspired and sometimes buggy translations of the Windows paradigm. MS had only lately realized that these devices need a different experience than Windows. However Ballmer still considers an iPad as a crippled PC. Well that crippled PC outsells PCs in some quarters making Apple the #1 PC seller. A key difference is that Apple is making tons of profit on it unlike the OEMs which make tiny margins on their PCs.

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  32. Re:Joke's on MSFT! by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is bad news, having Ballmer in charge of MS is a good thing as he was slowly mismanaging the company into the ground. A successor could be more competent.

    Note that the same guys who put Ballmer in charge will be picking his successor. We might not have anything to worry about. ;-)

    Well, the board have not been happy with him for years, but he was Bill's BFF so there was little the board could do. I gather Bill or his foundation still control a sizable investment portfolio in MSFT. Perhaps they'll grow some spines and fight for a better leader, not yet-another-BFF-of-Bill.

    fast forward to mid-2014: Melinda chose him, she liked his hair and the color of his eyes.

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  33. MS blew it big on DRM by bzipitidoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And that is totally MS's fault. They still don't get it. If they did, they would remove all DRM from Windows. That includes the whole product key and activation nonsense they continue to harass all users with, legitimate and otherwise.

    There was a day when MS was cool. They broke the early Office software monopolies, software such as Word Perfect. They reduced Apple and their MacIntosh to a small niche market. MacIntoshes were more user friendy, but MS-DOS on a PC was way, way cheaper. MS didn't rest on their laurels either, they rolled out Windows to challenge the Macs. Then in the 1990s, MS started to slip. MS's slowness gave IBM a chance to grab back the OS crown with OS/2. Lucky for MS, IBM blew it. MS also nearly got the Internet wrong. Remember that at first they pooh-poohed browsers. They came to their senses in time, barely. Windows 95 was very nearly too late. In the early 2000s, even the anti-trust conviction didn't much damage the MS brand. People still believed MS knew tech.

    But now? MS has made many mistakes, but I could hardly believe it some years back when MS signed onto the RIAA and MPAA position on DRM. One might expect entertainment organizations to fail to understand that DRM is a bad idea, but a tech company? MS should have been savvier than that. Instead, they happily poodled to the RIAA! Let the entertainment industry do their thinking for them! They should have been educating the entertainment giants, not the other way around. It was a terrible show of incompetence and anti-customer positioning. Having backed themselves into a corner on DRM, they then turned to their customers and compounded the mistake, trying to sell us on the idea that DRM is good for us, talking down to us most insultingly. DRM helps stop us from being naughty pirates, and that's why it's good for us, right? Windows Genuine Advantage, ha ha! MS treated those moronic entertainment moguls like they really know stuff, and then treated their customers, many of whom are quite tech savvy, like a pack of adolescents who would try to sneak a few beers if they weren't carded all the time. They further magified the disaster by then insisting that Vista was doing very well. MS lost a great deal of credibilty.

    It is only sheer size and inertia that has allowed MS to survive such bad blunders. I don't know how much more blundering MS can tolerate. Quite a bit, I suppose. Will they pick a decent CEO? There any reason to think they will pick a winner there?

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  34. Re:Truthful by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Informative

    As long as most printers and wireless cards and such are windows-only, as long as people send you docx files, as long as there are non-standard behaviors in MSIE that have to be tested for, as long as netflix uses silverlight... the windows monopoly still causes the linux user some annoyance in every day life.

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  35. Ballmer's replacement - a possible strategy? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps they'll grow some spines and fight for a better leader, not yet-another-BFF-of-Bill.

    Unfortunately for them, a significant number of senior leadership figures at Microsoft who might have been credible candidates have instead left the company in recent years. Conspiracy theories notwithstanding, that limits the talent pool from in-house.

    It will be interesting to see whether they can attract someone good from outside. Big tech firms don't seem to have a great track record in that respect lately, though perhaps that perception is partly because we hear about the spectacular failures at places like HP but modest success stories go mostly unreported.

    Either way, MS still has an effective monopoly on desktops, a significant presence in business server rooms, a substantial war chest, and a lot of smart people. Someone with a better vision for how to use those assets than "It's like Apple but for people who didn't buy Apple yet" might do well there.

    I've suggested previously, even before the post-Snowden cloud/privacy concerns, that Microsoft could be in a very strong position if they swam across the current a little and promoted private clouds. It looks like a much more natural fit for their portfolio and expertise, it plays on competitors' weaknesses, and it plays to their strengths as an established provider on both client and server ends for business. It even gives them a potential way into the mobile market, via consumer-friendly devices with integral BYOD features for those who also want to use them for business but don't want to hand over the root password to corporate sysadmins. Any takers? :-)

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  36. Totally different by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Informative

    One bright spot is Apple blatantly ripping off Metro for iOS 7

    You couldn't be more wrong and ignorant if you tried.

    Just because they both dropped 3D bevels does not make them the same.

    iOS does not have clipped areas like Metro, and has multiple layers of depth totally UNLIKE metro.

    What's sad is most of the world thinks as you do and has no idea what is to come.

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  37. Hah! Slashdot likes Ballmer more than the Press. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's interesting seeing the Slashdot comments because they are actually less negative than those of the press.

    From a May 12, 2013 article in Forbes: Microsoft's CEO, Steve Ballmer, "Should Have Already Been Fired." Quote from the article: "Without a doubt, Mr. Ballmer is the worst CEO of a large publicly traded American company today."

    More about Steve Ballmer from that article: "The reach of his bad leadership has extended far beyond Microsoft when it comes to destroying shareholder value -- and jobs."

    Scroll down in this article to see Businessweek's January 16, 2013 cover that called Steve Ballmer "Monkey Boy". The cover says "No More", but that doesn't take away from the fact that the magazine called him Monkey Boy -- on its cover. That's the greatest disrespect for a CEO I've ever seen.