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Nobel Winners Illustrate Israel's "Brain Drain"
barlevg writes "Two of the three scientists sharing this year's Nobel Prize in Chemistry have Israeli citizenship, with Dr. Arieh Warshel having been born and educated in Israel, yet both are based at universities in the United States. These two scientists are perhaps the highest profile examples of a growing problem in the so-called "start-up nation," which is known for its high-tech tech companies and scientific innovation, and yet which loses more researchers to emigration than any other western nation. The problem? Large salary gaps between US and Israeli institutions. As Daniel Hershkowitz, president of Bar-Ilan University put it, 'I don't see Israel being able to compete with what they offer in the United States.'"
With all of the $Billions we send to that country every SINGLE YEAR, they still can't manage to pay their own citizens a decent wage?
"The problem? Large salary gaps between US and Israeli institutions. "
Nothing to do with the social/political situation in the middle east? I know the USA social and political situation is kind of crazy, but it seems to be a bit saner at the level of organized groups trying to kick each other off this or that piece of land. I suspect that this has at least SOME effect on people's decisions to emigrate.
Maybe they don't want to participate in the ongoing Judaization of Palestine.
Don't be ridiculous. Fields that are in high demand always lose workers overseas when the pay is better there.
And stop calling them "settlers." They aren't "settlers" they are land grabbers stealing land from Palestinians.
is not a western nation, but the summary tries to imply that it is.
TFA mentioned 'large salary gaps' as a problem in certain areas (like finance); but other factors in areas like the sciences (a successful academic career isn't penury; but the cash per unit effort and talent is kind of mediocre).
Particularly for the scientists and other less-likely-to-be-salary-motivated types, I have to wonder if it suggests that the quality of life, at least for people of the class who have options, that a small country in a mostly-hostile neighborhood can offer just isn't that high.
In the US, for instance, there is a lot of migration, from state to state, or even within the larger states, that would count as 'brain drain' except that the US is huge so both the origin and the destination are American for accounting purposes.
By area, Israel is just slightly larger than Massachusetts, which isn't exactly a big state(and, although it scores pretty well on academic opportunities, quality of life, etc. is hardly retains all the people born there, nor is it even imaginable how it could be world-class at enough things to do so, you can only fit so much, and there is plenty of competition with other virtues).
When we get as much Socialism here, as Israel has, we will not be able to offer as big salaries either... Maybe, another 10-20 years? One more Obama and we are done.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Aren't we over due for another "US losing its lead in science stories?" You'd think we had a future in science given all the Noble moving here.
I'll second that with my userid visible despite the ramifications.
It's a barren desert like Las Vegas, but instead of showgirls and casinos
you have martial law and suicide bombers, along with various neighboring
countries which would like to wipe the place off the map.
The question is not why anyone would leave, the question is why anyone
would stay. I don't pretend to have an answer for that.
Your stereotypes are just Yellin` out TROLLLLLLOP!
The article is intentionally misleading (as many "journalishtick" works are these days).
Take the CIA and brain-drain for example; the CIA has over 500 agents working in Paris, France, but the ACTUAL data gathered by the CIA Paris offices is slightly less than what mossad gathers, with its 100 agents. The reason for this is because the mossad works within the community, co-opting many people. Heres how it works, most of French-Jewry have some link in the holocaust, and their perception of mossad is as a sort of protector; other people are paid, either in cash, goods, or business opportunities; yet other people are coerced into cooperating with mossad, and yet others are intimidated.
Despite their having a smaller station (and less staff), the data they gather usually surpasses that of the CIA, MI6 or the FSB (and the three big boys usually get most of their data stolen by mossad).
Ask jonathan pollard if he feels he was wrong to do what he did.... the usnavy should run a tightship, but enevitably immigrant and marginalised peoples have greater loyalties elsewhere than to their host nation; that is how mossad works.
Now, israeli brain drain is much, much different from, say, India. The ratio of car-owners-to-households can tell you that.
So these "enterprising young israelis", often with impressive CV`s (resumee) citing "highly disciplined team-player" from their army Kernel, some references from well-respected figure in the target industry, these young israelis get great jobs in the west, they have intricate and infallible social-support-networks.
As the English say (and Sacha Baron Cohen is an israeli, not English), "at the end of the day,"
These perps lie and decieve labour-forces and investors, fraudulently float in IPO`s, make billions off the backs of the aforementioned, and then "retire" or hightail it back to their little tax-haven-offshore-stolen-data-safehouse in the Eastern Medditerranean, juST LIKE MEYER LANSKY AFTER HE RIPPED OFF THE MOB.
Go figure, and stop Yellen "race"!
well fished, Fishman!
Simple solution: pay your scientists/researchers more. It's only complicated when you have a Republican mindset that idealizes entrepreneurship and denigrates science.
Look where all this talking got us, baby.
I know of a few Islamic countries that would pay them handsomely for their nuclear experience.
As an actual Israeli, I assure you that it is not a barren desert. There are 2 "major" deserts in the South of the country, and even in the desert there are huge green spots. A lot of the country is greener than almost any place you will find. Even some of the drier parts have been made green. For an American, I'd describe it more as the greener parts of Northern and Southern California depending on which part of the country. For a small country, there's a lot of variation.
Why would someone want to stay? As someone who grew up in Israel, left, and came back, I can answer that vs. the USA.
1. A different, more relaxing in certain senses lifestyles. Families in Israel tend to be closer I find, and there's more of a sense of community in most places. Even non-religious people for example tend to get together for Shabbat (Sabbath) dinner every week and eat great food, drink wine, chat, etc.
2. Different pace of life. Faster in some ways, slower in others. I feel people tend to value personal connections more as well. So much so, the entire country works on connections which can also be a problem.
3. Despite the racist and ridiculous posts in this article, Israelis have a deep connection to the land that dates back very far in most cases. It's hard to explain to an outsider, but it's always been our home. You can argue who owns what, but I can tell that a lot of land and other things have been usurped from my own family in the past. Our people have been massacred in Israel as well as obviously abroad, and we have a long memory. We have a tie to our land and for a lot of us, it is the only place we can feel safe. I feel safer in Israel than America, both in terms of crime and in general. No, there aren't suicide bombers and missiles landing everywhere, but on the other hand some places can be rather unsafe at times depending on political conditions. Even so, people fight on.
4. National Health Care and arguably better retirement options. This is just a disaster in America, sorry.
5. More freedoms in many ways. In Israel, you can start a campfire without a strike force of park rangers descending on you asking for permits and other nonsense.For better or worse, many day-to-day laws are treated more as a suggestion. Things get resolve, people get fined or even arrested, but it's a middle-eastern culture with democracy, which encourages a lot of "I'll do whatever I want." Take it or leave it.
6. Great food. I eat better at Cafes and Coffee shops in Israel than in many "fine" restaurants in America.
7. A mix of old world and new. It's comforting to me at least to be able to get things without chemicals, packaged 100 times, and that are actually fresh and homemade. At the same time, it's modern enough I can get most of everything
8. Culture. Israeli culture is very rich, and people don't really realize it until they're gone. This is why you see a lot of Israelis abroad hanging out with other Israelis, going to synagogues when before they were not religious, etc.
9. A belief in ourselves. The nasty things people say about Israel (ex: this thread) bring us closer together and sometimes make us realize it's the only place we can call home. It's amazing so many people care about such a tiny country and makeup such nonsense. You could at least read our history and visit a few times (better yet live here) before you make unfounded ridiculous comments.
10. Hot people. There's a lot of hot people. Really, there are. Good place to find a husband or wife.
Why leave?
1. Everything is very very expensive.
2. Did I mention everything is expensive? Well, maybe not street food.
3. Israeli universities are not be funded well. In fact, they are in many cases funded less than 40 years ago.
4. Children. It's a great place to raise them, but some parents just don't want to send their kids to the army. I view this as a sign of weakness and disloyalty, but on the other hand I can understand parents protecting their children. Mostly the army is not so heroi
Ever see the nose on a Jew? Oy vey! And have you ever noticed how they all look alike? Inbreeding!
and face the exact same problems. It also helps that the US education system is an utter joke, making it easier to get trained elsewhere, and then move to the US for their high salaries.
I actually want to immigrate because of the social issue but financially it would be worse in the states.
Salary gross are higher but if you add to that insurance, kindergarten, rent etc. the differences are effectively eliminated.
Yes the taxes here are ridiculously high but that's because of the army not the social safety net.
I tend to agree, this is one of the biggest issues for me personally. There are quite a few other issues such as orthodocs Jews political influence and the fact that there are limited opportunities due to the small size of the country.
But overall the tech industry is pretty much entirely in Tel Aviv/Hertzelia areas (with limited niches in Haifa and even less in Jerusalem). If you look at the voting record the Tel Aviv/Hertzelia area is remarkably left wing liberal (against occupation) while the rest of the country is the exact polar opposite. This generally means the brains (and financial growth) are most likely liberals.
I wanted to immigrate myself but without a foreign nationality starting from scratch is really hard, plus my aging mother is also an anchor. I plan to do it immediately when opportunity presents itself.
Where else you gonna get a brain drain from? Africa? Ho ho ho!!!
Israel is not a Western nation. It's in the Middle East.
a lot more then it is about salary, at least for university professors.
For engeneirs it's more about cost of living and specifically cost of housing
Missiles landing in one's backyard is the other.
I'm an Israeli and I've had missiles falling near my house and that's usually not the reason.
The pay gap usually isn't either. Senior professors make $75k and above and it goes a long way in Israel.
Unfortunately, the budget of Harvard at $3.7B is higher than the budget of the entire Israeli academia and they only support 21,000 students. Tel Aviv university alone is nearly 30,000. Giving a scientist $5m for a lab is nearly impossible in Israel. That's why they don't come back after the post-doc.
That is an equally accurate description of both Israel and USA. Only for USA, the neighbours are farther away, and the terrorists seem to prefer automatic rifles.
The same question applies, though. And unlike you, I do know the answer.
It may have to do with the aggressiveness that this tiny country keeps using to conquer all the prime farming and building land at it's border for the pas 60 years. People kind of resent it if you do that and tend to attack you to take the land back. They'll stop that after a few dozen years if you stop taking land, usually, if we may believe history. However, if you do it again and again, you just keep adding enemies to replace the ones that have died from old age. Maybe that's a practice Israel should consider, if it has to spend so much money on "defence".
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
I'm not sure everyone would agree that Israel is a Western nation (not that there is anything wrong with not being Western!!!) but the brain drain in many, many places makes Israel's look pretty meagre. I once read that some of the top Indian publicly funded institutions had 90%+ emigration rates a few years after graduation. Coming from another brain-drain country (New Zealand), these facts ended up changing my view on publicly funded tertiary education - why should a plumber, who started working and paying taxes at 18, pay for me to get a high quality 6-year tertiary education if he is not going to see any benefit from that? Sure, were I to contribute back to society through higher (absolute) taxes, providing employment, leadership or even just being culturally more aware from my education, there is real justification... But I, like many others, simply left straight after 6 years at university to somewhere with more people, closer to "the action" (Europe/US/East Asia). Israel is certainly closer to Europe than NZ but political reasons make it even more isolated...
Yeah, they are much warmer. They invite their neighbours over for some rockets, or a helicopter attack. Or they assume they can build on their neighbours land. the USA may be not the warmest place socially, but the Middle East isn't that friendly either.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
" which claim to this land (and more) predates them by 5 millenia." Woah wait a minute. "them"? Who owns what here.
In what sense is Sacha Baron Cohen not English? Ok he's arguably Israeli too (just as he's arguably Welsh). But why not English?
"Is this an allusion to the cheap Jew thing?"
Not at all. It's not only Israel, most of the US Nobel price winners cannot become president of the United States.
Israel may be exporting a lot of brains to USA, but they are also importing a lot from elsewhere. A previous employer participated in a joint project with IBM research lab in Haifa. Of the four persons I personally worked with, three were originally born in Soviet Union and the fourth had immigrated form Australia. When I asked, they said their group is not really exceptional, there are many with similar composition in research institutions in Israel.
Where's the statistics that show this "brain drain"? Sure Israel has a high rate of emmigration, but that's because it also has a high rate of immigration, and a large fraction of dual citizenship holders. One of the Nobel Prize winners from TFS actually illustrates this perfectly. Dr. Levitt was born and raised outside of Israel, but is now a citizen and spends six months a year there (according to Wikipedia.) Counting people like him as "emmigrants" is very missledaing.
It has very little to do with salary. Nobel-level researchers could earn a hundred times as much by going into banking, if that's what they wanted.
It's about living environment, resources provided to academics, political outlook, and any number of things which normal people not simplifying humans to cogs in a machine use when deciding where to settle. America's response to technically brilliant (though rarely to socially brilliant) people has always been, "Sure, come here and we'll let you do your shit. What do you need? No problem."
In the meantime I'll be worrying more about the extremist trend in Islam which - surprise surprise - tends to come from the arab countries and their patsies in the backwards *stan nations. Unfortunately this intolerant dim witted view of morality has now spread to africa.
All the states in the mid-east are illegitimate, their boundaries were drawn by the colonial powers. They aren't really countries so much, except for Israel, as they are containers for tribes and sects. Oh, and by the way, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem became a gruppen-fuhrer in Hilter's Nazi Germany. He had his own squad of SS in Balkans rounding up Jews for extermination and hoped to export that little policy gem to the Mid-East.
Why AC? Are you confused and believe hate filled anti-Semites are persecuted anywhere? Use your log-in. Collect your karma.
The US is and has been trashing it's learning and culture - and bankrupting it's students - for most of a decade, or two. It has now decided to leech and destroy the rest of the world's, too.
US and UK universities are now actively campaigning abroad, intensely, with lots of advertising, theatrics and events, to bring in foreign students - and cash. Some UK universities are said to be kept economically afloat on "Chinese" (oriental) students alone. The same is probably true elsewhere. Local enrollment isn't what it used to be. And mostly young women?
There's more at work than the 3 phrases US businessen needed in the last century : "What's the best? How much does it cost? Buy!".
Getting those world brains together would be a good thing, if the whole patent-taboo orwellian big brother thing didn't keep them apart and isolated. Even if it is already rather paleo-orwellian in their own homelands.
Why is this marked troll? If you disagree, it's hardly a troll. It seems informative and on point to me, vs. the grandparent which is an obvious troll.
Your post makes no sense. How does most of this apply to the US? I'm sorry, you're more likely to be mugged, shot, raped, stabbed, etc. in a major US city than a victim of a terrorist attack. Even then, there's a difference between safer day to day life vs. random violence on the street. Both are frightening, but in much different ways.
Don't be ridiculous.
Check the URL atop your browser.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
That's because the vast bulk of NPP winners don't know how to wage war and then blame their predecessor.
Tricky art, requiring copious support from the codpiece media.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
Missiles landing in one's backyard is the other.
I'm an Israeli and I've had missiles falling near my house and that's usually not the reason.
The pay gap usually isn't either. Senior professors make $75k and above and it goes a long way in Israel.
$75k is starting salary for a first-year assistant professor in America. Senior professors make two or three times that.
This has been the U.S game for a long time, importing and collecting the intellectual resources of the world. And god knows they need it, we all know the sad state of U.S public education, and how colleges and universities to a significant degree seem to revolve around "getting wasted, bro", not to mention how American culture is excellent at keeping many Americans young, dumb, aggressive and ignorant. It would be interesting to know how the U.S would have fared had they not been fighting to attract the intellectual elite of the world. This pooling of intellectual wealth in the U.S just furthers an already poor global balance, and countries need to invest in motivating their educated people to stay to work and contribute to better their own country, rather than the U.S.
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How is he anti-semitic? Palestinians are semites, whereas the people who moved there in the 50s were Poles, Germans, Russians, British, French and American.
In most sciences, professors only make between $60k and $120k, although obviously faculty managing really really big labs could make more.
The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
I'm an academic and just returned from a sabattical in Jerusalem. I can imagine a lot more reasons for a bright scientist to emigrate than just salary:
- Israel is still a very religious state, with e.g. no civil marriage (you marry before either the rabbi, the imam, the priest, etc, but no religion = no marriage and a mixed marriage means someone must convert). There is a minister of religious affairs and the state in waist-deep in a number of religious issues. Jewish religious schooling is mandatory in most schools. Citizenship is linked to religious/ethnic heritage.
- Israel is a segragationist state, with a large part of its citizens treated as second class (palestinians, bedouin) and there are extremist groups that physically attack people and institutions who strive for more integration and dialogue (see: price tag attacks).
- Israel is an occupying country, its army occupying a territory with over 4M people living in it. You cannot travel through Israel (much less live in it) without seeing the effects of this, in terms of checkpoints, barriers, and a general siege mentality in the population.
- Israel is surrounded by countries that are either hostile, in a civil war, or both. Jordan is an exception but if you go through Jordan you come to Iraq (hostile, civil war), Syira (hostile, civil war), or Saudi Arabia (just hostile). This contributes to the siege mentality in the population.
tl;dr: If you live in Israel, you live in country based on a tight coupling of church and state; you cannot go on holiday except by airplane; your children will face 2/3 years of military service with a good probability of serving in actual combat and occupation duties; whenever you drive over 100 miles you hit a wall (often quite literally); and almost half the people living in the area controlled by Israel are treated as second class at best. It is a bit like moving to 1950's South Carolina but with closed borders so the only way out is by flying through Europe. No, thanks.
Since when does spending a year in Israel make you Israeli?
I guess it's a matter of how you define yourself, but to the best of my knowledge, Sacha does not define himself as Israeli.
Shachar
And I was wondering what took the hot heads so long...
What is the relevance of this to the post at hand?
Shachar
(at the time I am writing this, the "consequences" are +2 insightful, so you're doing fine so far. As is obvious from my reply, I think "off topic" would have been more appropriate).
The pervasive influence of the State of Israel on the Western world is germane to nearly every topic.
I guess you haven't heard the joke:
A journalist asked a Russian, American, and Israeli, "Can you please give us your opinion on the food shortage?"
The Russian replied, "What is an 'opinion'?"
The American replied, "What is a 'shortage'?"
The Israeli replied, "What is 'please'?"
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
$75k is starting salary for a first-year assistant professor in America. Senior professors make two or three times that.
No it isn't
There are a couple of big reasons for this:
1. Most first-year faculty are adjuncts rather than assistant professors. Adjuncts make about $58K if they manage to work full time (most don't).
2. Colleges have been cutting faculty salaries aggressively for faculty who are not yet full tenured professors. What's driving the increase in college costs is actually administration, buildings, and sports, because that's what actually attracts students to a lot of colleges rather than the actual education part.
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I'm reluctant to respond, since WTF does this Nobel Prize story have to do with Obama... but nice, idiotic cherry-picked simplification of the Obama presidency and the media.
How about the codpiece media that helped the predecessor launch one of those wars based on lies - to the detriment of maybe winning the other one? How about the codpiece media that repeats and amplifies today's Republican talking points about the need to pay down the deficit, and also repeated the 2001 talking points about how the surplus was going to pay down the deficit, and then what will we do... Better to cut taxes in 2001 and stop running that immoral surplus...
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What's driving the increase in college costs is actually administration, buildings, and sports, because that's what actually attracts students to a lot of colleges rather than the actual education part.
I know I chose my undergraduate institution based on the size of the administration...... :-)
OK, buildings and sports maybe, but the growth of the bureaucracy is an unfortunate byproduct of the system rather than a recruitment tool.
I'm reluctant to respond, since WTF does this Nobel Prize story have to do with Obama...
Well, for one instance, Arieh Warshel and Obama Barrack their first names are equally long.
Second instance, their family names are ALSO equally long.
Being too intelligent has always been a handicap in politics, you start asking things like:
Where did this money come from?
and
Why are you giving me this money?
Gershom Gorenberg has brought it up on several occasions. In his view, electoral considerations in the Knesset mean that Israel has a less than sane approach to educating the next generation.
Yeah, I'll bet.
> I'm reluctant to respond, since WTF does this Nobel Prize story have to do with Obama...
This is about the US sucking talent out of other nations. That means that people who are NOT BORN HERE work here.
As one of the key legal requirements for the US President is be that he is BORN HERE. That's how this relates to Obama. Schwarzenegger can be governor but not President.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Spot on. I moved here about 10 years ago, served in army, do reserves, work as an electrical engineer doing chip design. Everything you said is correct.
Senior professors make $75k and above and it goes a long way in Israel.
I call BS. Cost of living in Israel is substantially higher than in the USA.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Israel&country2=United+States
Additionally senior professors make $150k in the USA, so the wage difference is 3-4x in favor of the USA.
It's not just a matter of salaries. Israel is a difficult place. It's essentially a banana republic, with archaic government bodies that still behave as if the country is soviet russia. Natural resources are distributed to "oligarch" style tycoons who basically take the money and spend it abroad on real estate, yachts, and pay little to no taxes in Israel. There's a large number of people who are poor, all the while, the middle class is being milked dry by corporations who jack up prices. Food is cheaper in Manhattan than in Tel-Aviv, as ridiculous as it sounds. And it does not help that the country is surrounded by hostile countries seeking the destruction of Israel and the death of all Jews, despite what they had to endure in the holocaust. So yah, there is that. An Israeli leaving to the US suddenly realizes how relatively relaxed life is. For a typical Israeli, life in the US is like a constant holiday.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... time... to... die...
That aid to Egypt's army caused it to build an economic empire that controls (by some estimates) up to 40% of Egypt's economy.
Just in the past few days, there is talk about winding down the aid to Egypt's military, and this is welcomed there by both ultranationalists who see the US meddling with Egypt for too long, and the revolutionaries who see the above empire as something to rein in.
In all cases, cutting that aid means the USA loses leverage with the most populous Arab nation, one with a peace treaty and border with Israel.
There will be a long struggle to bring this business empire under civilian oversight. The now suspended 2012 constitution said that the miltiary's budget is not subject to parliamentary oversight, and only a military council with a majority of military people can see the details. The constitution being drafted now seems to be heading that way too after refusal of the army to be under normal civilian elected oversight (public or in private hearing in committees).
So, as usual, foreign policies that worked in the past has had side effects, and we are now seeing them, and it will impact geopolitical future of a country and perhaps the region too.
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The real reason why some good Israeli scientists emigrate has nothing to do with salary, cost of living, stress (i.e. war, missiles, suicide attacks), or moral judgements on the states character (i.e. too religious, too socialist, too land-grabish...)
A real "brain-drain" would lead to a shortage of highly qualified people to fill the open slots in Israeli university staff. The situation is actually just the opposite - there are too few open slots for those seeking academic careers.
The simple reality is that Israel produces way too many top level scientists and the local academic institutions can not absorb all of them, so some seek to get appointments at foreign institutions. The common Israeli requirement for an academic appointment is a post-doc at preferably a top-level western university, so unless these postdocs can get an appointment before they return, they usually just stay abroad and let their careers take off from there. ...and there is a positive side to it too - having Israelis doing world-class research at western universities makes it easier for those who remain in Israel to collaborate with them, offsetting some of the issues with access to very pricey equipment, without all the hassles of capital expense and maintenance.
mrvan above you has some points you did not address at all. Let's face it: besides an interesting vacation spot, what incentive do I have to stay there if I'm not Jewish? I mean that honestly. All of western europe has most of the features you listed there, minus the down side of being a religious run state. As a non-denominational christian how would you feel about me pursuing a Jewish woman in Israel? I don't want her to convert, but I'm not gonna convert either. Also I don't believe in the concept of "nations", but honor the rules busybodies make because crazy assholes won't leave me alone if I don't play along. Are you sure you want to sell me on the worthiness of your homeland? Oh, and what about starting a business? I'd like to see actual sources in your answers, otherwise your words, like the ones you made before, are baseless propaganda.
Please answer in the spirit of giving 'outsiders' a clearer picture, as I won't be here to read your response. Good luck :)
To assert, that the troubles are due to "land grab" is to show ignorance or dishonesty...
Either you haven't seen the actual progression or it's you who's dishonest: http://thebilzerianreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/four-panel-map.jpg
Let me draw your particular attention to the second panel ("partition plan") vs. panels 3 and 4.
Unlike capitalism, globalization is zero-sum.
Casteism
$75k is starting salary for a first-year assistant professor in America. Senior professors make two or three times that.
Meh, starting salary numbers aren't terribly useful unless you factor in cost-of-living numbers at the same time.
That being said, I can't believe that Israel wouldn't have a fairly high cost of living.
Might have something there; I couldn't help but notice that Scotland's major export seems to be engineers. Same principle I guess.
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
http://thebilzerianreport.com/
Yeah, there's an objective, unbiased, reliable source. The first two articles now are how Jewish bankers destroyed the economy and how you need to claim to be Jewish to get into an Ivy League school.
More of that "antizionism is not antisemitism" we keep hearing about, I guess. The fact that you would quote this bucket of turds automatically disqualifies your posts from serious consideration. Hell, the fact that you know it exists doesn't help your credibility any. I plan to take several showers in hopes of forgetting I ever saw it.
But hey, all you antizionists check it out, I wouldn't want to spoil your peculiar fun.
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
Perhaps because the picture is not as rosy as the parent AC makes it out to be:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/most-israeli-jews-agree-africans-are-a-cancer/
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Racism-violence-against-Africans-soars-in-2012
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-ethiopians-suffer-from-racism-directed-at-african-migrants-1.458247
http://972mag.com/a-year-in-review-anti-african-racism-and-asylum-seekers-in-israel/72381/
You mean successful workers in a centralised economy don't think they're getting paid enough?
I know I chose my undergraduate institution based on the size of the administration...
Actually, some people do. For example, those who want individualized attention from the Dean of Students office, tutoring centers, counselors and psychologists on staff, etc. There are also those who look heavily at alumni giving, and the fact is that schools that have a lot of that tend to also have an army of fundraisers hitting up alumni on a regular basis (also, they need to have rich alumni).
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The site hosts but didn't author the image.
Do you doubt the accuracy of this visualization? I don't know the site and have never read anything on it. I just went to Google Images with "map israel expansion" and picked one of several options that all showed the same thing.
But hey, don't let me keep you. I assume there's other places you need to enrich with knee-jerk accusations.