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Are We Socially Ready For Wearable Computing?

An anonymous reader writes "Smart watches have arrived, and Google Glass is on its way. As early-adopters start to gain some experience with these devices, they're learning some interesting lessons about how wearable computing affects our behavior differently from even smartphones and tablets. Vint Cerf says, 'Our social conventions have not kept up with the technology.' Right now, it's considered impolite to talk on your cellphone while checking out at the grocery store, or to ignore a face-to-face conversation in favor of texting somebody. But 20 years ago, those actions weren't even on our social radar. Wearable devices create some obvious social problems, like the aversion to Glass's ever-present camera. But there are subtler ones, as well, for which we'll need to develop another set of social norms. A Pebble smart watch user gave an example: 'People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages. It sent the wrong signal.' The article continues, 'Therein lies the wearables conundrum. You can put a phone away and choose not to use it. You can turn to it with permission if you're so inclined. Wearables provide no opportunity for pause, as their interruptions tend to be fairly continuous, and the interaction is more physical (an averted glance or a vibration directly on your arm). It's nearly impossible to train yourself to avoid the reflex-like response of interacting. By comparison, a cell phone is away (in your pocket, on a table) and has to be reached for.'"

214 comments

  1. NO !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Next !!

    1. Re:NO !! by phrostie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shamelessly stolen from, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(film)

      "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

    2. Re:NO !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would just like to say that there is no culture for it since there are no products in the market yet. you dont get pocket watch culture from clock tower culture. It will manifest once they are out in the wild. the cyborgs are already here you just don't see them yet.

    3. Re:NO !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see them everyday. Anyone who relies upon technology, such as a phone, a computer, a car, a flashlight, etc. as a means to live is technically a cyborg.

    4. Re:NO !! by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      AC wrote:
      > Anyone who relies upon technology, such as a phone, a computer, a car, a flashlight, etc. as a means to live is technically a cyborg

      No, they're pathetic. There shouldn't be a single point of failure for anything in one's life and any competent person should be able to:

        - write a letter
        - calculate or write or prepare documents using paper, pencil, &c.
        - ride a bicycle or take a bus or walk
        - light a kerosene lamp, or build a fire and improvise a torch

      &c.

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    5. Re:NO !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There shouldn't be a single point of failure for anything in one's life

      Why does relying on a phone, a computer, a car, a flashlight, etc, imply a single point of failure for performing actions associated with those items? I rely on my legs to get me around, but losing them in an accident wouldn't suddenly make me immobile.

      Likewise, being able to live without the use of a phone, a computer, a car, a flashlight, etc, does not imply that people who rely on those items are not technically cyborgs. Going back to my legs example, I can live without my legs, and can get around without them, but that does not mean I would not be a cyborg if I'd gotten robotic legs to replace my missing organic ones.

    6. Re:NO !! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Both you and the AC above are wrong. The AC is wrong because his definition disagrees with every dictionary out there. Yours is wrong because you're not looking deeply enough. You say "No, they're pathetic. There shouldn't be a single point of failure for anything in one's life." How about your food? Without tractors, combines, and other advancements in the last century there wouldn't be enough food for everyone.

      Write a letter? Do you know how to make paper?
      Ride a bike or take a bus? Those are both machines. As is a kerosine lamp, all technology. We all rely on machines.

      And it's certainly not pathetic to rely on an implanted CrystaLens when you were extremely nearsighted all your life and couldn't get by without those older technologies, contacts and glasses.

    7. Re:NO !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're wrong, AC is right.

      a person whose physiological functioning is aided by or dependent upon a mechanical or electronic device.

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cyborg

      a bionic human

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cyborg

      having normal biological capability or performance enhanced by or as if by electronic or electromechanical devices

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bionic

    8. Re:NO !! by nobodie · · Score: 1

      " It's nearly impossible to train yourself to avoid the reflex-like response of interacting. "
      Calling BS, its a personal deciision, the person who says this is a person who wakes to gheck email because they leave their phone by the bed and hear it buz/noise all night long. That is a decision, the decision to wear or not and the decision to interact or not, all made in time.

      (not sent from an iPhone, android, or other mobile device, the one I've got runs symbian.)

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  2. For me, it's all about invisibility... by dlingman · · Score: 2

    If you can't tell that I'm reading email, or surfing the web while interacting with others, that's a good thing. I don't want things intruding into my presence unless I ask for them though.

    1. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by mark_reh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So lemme see if I get this: you want to be able to send and receive text messages while interacting with others, but you don't want them to know you're doing it so they won't think you're some sort of a-hole? And you think that the person you're interacting with won't notice you staring at your watch? And you think they won't notice that it's big, clunky, and has text displayed on it, sort like, oh, I don't know, a phone?

    2. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by slick7 · · Score: 2

      If you can't tell that I'm reading email, or surfing the web while interacting with others, that's a good thing. I don't want things intruding into my presence unless I ask for them though.

      Big Brother, in your pocket, in your mind, in the pocket of your mind.

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    3. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by davester666 · · Score: 2

      Oh, they know he's a a-hole.

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    4. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I may, I would add, I do not seeing this as a question of social Etiquette. But rather the behavior of humans, who will become like heroin addicts with these devices, which your already seeing. One has to question the fall out from this, both mental and physical!

    5. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      personally, what I want is the Social Analyzer like in Deus Ex. That was the most useful, though exploitative augmentation, in the whole game. Imagine a thermal polygraph, pupil response tracker, and directional microphone for detecting subtle changes in the body caused by subconsious reaction. Now include the ability to build a psych profile based off of a person's social networking data and Current behavior modeling. For the third element, include data from all previous interactions that you have had involving that person to create a framework for any sort of manipulation you want to do. The last is an artificial pheremone delivery system, which can be used to directly manipulate the other person at the biological level.

      take something like that with a direct retinal display, and you got something scary.

    6. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can have all that now by shutting up, looking at the person and listening to them. Instead you only pay attention to the walls of text accumulating in your own brain.

    7. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by dlingman · · Score: 1

      Go check out Vinge's "Rainbows End"

    8. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      He just needs to come out of the asshole closet like the people in the Facebook commercials. No point being a closet asshole.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    9. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      If you can't tell that I'm reading email, or surfing the web while interacting with others, that's a good thing. I don't want things intruding into my presence unless I ask for them though.

      I realize that no technology is going to be flawless, but I can see some ways that our toys can be a little more considerate with the aid of a rule-based system.

      First, I'd posit the definition of categories of importance: in-laws, boss, spouse, friends, pop-up reminders, emergency community services, and so forth.

      Then I'd add another dimension: urgency. "I'm bored, amuse me", "By the way/FYI", "Don't forget the milk", "got no time for that", "Impending metor strike", etc.

      Add in location: nowhere special, among friends, in transit, Funeral (someone else's), Intensive Care, Funeral (your own), TSA security line.

      And on top of that, alert mechanisms: flash, vibrate, audible (quiet), audible to others.

      Now link them all up. A little AI training, perhaps. Modulate with some Miss Manners for the socially clueless.

      It would be interesting to see how it worked.

    10. Re:For me, it's all about invisibility... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it gets really scary if the devices are hacked by someone, who then can give false profiles. They could for example give a frightening profile about someone to everyone seeing him, with the exception of those people who might tell him about it. Then he will get avoided by most people, and will have no clue why.

  3. Duh! by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A Pebble smart watch user gave an example: 'People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages. It sent the wrong signal.'

    I've got news for you. You're not sending a good signal when you check your phone for text messages during a conversation either. In either case you're indirectly but very clearly saying to the person standing in front of you that anything, including the time of day, a text message, or a facebook update is more important/interesting than what you are saying to me right now.

    1. Re:Duh! by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah yes but he was sending the wrong rude message, it was "I'm so bored listening to you it seems time is standing still and I keep checking my watch praying this will soon be over" instead of the "I'm far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you, so I'll casually show it by doing other things at the same time" rude.

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    2. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In either case you're indirectly but very clearly saying to the person standing in front of you that anything, including the time of day, a text message, or a facebook update is more important/interesting than what you are saying to me right now.

      Which may very well be true!

      I am a nerd. I may very well have some tech stuff occupying my attention, that is indeed more important than a stranger trying to strike up a conversation. I might not be interested in a casual conversation at that moment. Or in helping a stranger to find the way. The stuff I am doing is not necessarily unimportant! Would you disturb someone busy reading books or performing calculations?

      Oh, and it is not facebook I am checking. Facebook is a social thing, as a nerd I don't use the net much for that.

    3. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ah yes but he was sending the wrong rude message, it was "I'm so bored listening to you it seems time is standing still and I keep checking my watch praying this will soon be over" instead of the "I'm far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you, so I'll casually show it by doing other things at the same time" rude.

      Is it rude when you actually do have things going on that really are more important than some small-talk the person in front of you keeps making? Should I prioritize the guy's views of a football team over an e-mail from my wife concerning our family? Should my boss be less important than the guy in front of me and his views of football and gadgets?

      I guess Im being rude now by asking a reasonable question.

    4. Re:Duh! by gnoshi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I guess Im being rude now by asking a reasonable question.

      No, you're being rude by wasting people's time by pretending to ask a reasonable question while actually just being a sanctimonious ass.

    5. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it rude when you actually do have things going on that really are more important than some small-talk the person in front of you keeps making? Should I prioritize the guy's views of a football team over an e-mail from my wife concerning our family? Should my boss be less important than the guy in front of me and his views of football and gadgets?

      Yes, yes and yes.

      If you don't want to talk with someone, break off the conversation with them. Do not engage in other activities whilst you are talking to them.

      Saying the words "Excuse me, please, I need to check this" is apparently an epic, impossible feat that only the greatest of men can accomplish.

    6. Re:Duh! by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Should I prioritize the guy's views of a football team over an e-mail from my wife concerning our family?

      If your wife is sending you urgent e-mails about your family that you need to deal with right now and not in ten minutes, maybe that's the problem? If it's urgent you call. Twice if need be, to let you know voice mail is not quick enough. If your excuse for checking your email every time a message pops in is that it might possibly be urgent, it's a bloody poor one. Not to mention you'll probably spend most of your life checking email, but that's not anyone else's problem.

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    7. Re:Duh! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      You're not sending a good signal when you check your phone for text messages during a conversation either.

      That depends on the signal he is trying to send. I have found that if I check my phone frequently when someone is talking to me, then that person is likely to bother me less in the future.

    8. Re:Duh! by bhagwad · · Score: 1

      Yes. You are being rude by pretending to listen to the person about football. If you're not interested, break it off and go elsewhere. If you can't easily break it off, then checking your messages from your boss is just a cop out.

    9. Re:Duh! by mevets · · Score: 1

      I am surprised you have a problem with people bothering you at all! I would think that most would strive to avoid you.

    10. Re:Duh! by ultranova · · Score: 2

      Ah yes but he was sending the wrong rude message, it was "I'm so bored listening to you it seems time is standing still and I keep checking my watch praying this will soon be over" instead of the "I'm far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you, so I'll casually show it by doing other things at the same time" rude.

      Except, of course, the point of the activity was not to send a message, it was to check if he had received any. The social message of rejection was an uninteded side effect.

      And yes, I actually am far too busy and important to devote all my attention and energy to interacting with you. Every single person in the world who isn't you is. And it isn't the least bit of rude of them to not put all other activities aside just because you want to talk to them. It is, however, rather narcissistic to demand they do so.

      Unfortunately, there are plenty of narcissistic persons out there. They aren't necessarily malicious, but they are apparently unable to comprehend that others have lives and priorities of their own. Thus, if I glance at the clock, it's not me checking the time, it's me sending you a message that I'm bored. If I do anything at all, I'm not doing it because I want it done, I'm doing it to show you I don't want to talk with you. Everything I do is about you, at least in your twisted mind.

      So, that's a critical design feature for a wearable computer: allow me to use the thing without sending any kind of messages to anyone except the intended receiver.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    11. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you can't figure out how to politely excuse yourself from a conversation for something more important, then you need to get some social coaching. New technology isn't the problem in this example, it's social incompetence.

    12. Re: Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just what I was going to post. Verbatim.

      When people do that to me I call them out on it. Make them aware on the spot of their rudeness and/or the implications! They never seem to get it though.

      The real kicker is these same people are the ones that give me shit for being a "computer nerd" and thus lacking in social skills. They also don't notice the irony there.

    13. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vote with your attention. Give it to people who deserve it (your call).

    14. Re:Duh! by Count+Fenring · · Score: 2

      It's not exactly either/or though, is it? What wouldn't be rude is saying "I'm sorry, I have other things I need to get to" or "I'm sorry, I have to keep an eye on my phone, my wife/boss said they might text." But just ignoring someone you're speaking to in person while staring at your phone? Yes, that's rude, and frankly, it's still rude if you're expecting a text of great import. It comes down to treating other people as if you value their time. If something you're doing doesn't meet that criteria, you're being rude.

    15. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's true for old people or young people who are either socially awkward or hipsters. People who grew up texting know that you can be casually shooting the shit with someone and still glance at something else. It's only people who never learned that social exchange either from age or exclusion from peers who have an issue with it.

    16. Re: Duh! by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

      I think the gist of the article is that the current social norms will have to evolve if we want to integrate continuous data feed with real human interaction. Many of the judgmental reactions of other responders ("a-hole", "rude", "inconsiderate", etc) demonstrate our strong cultural bias for exclusivity in direct, inter-personal interaction and the resentment we feel when we perceive that our presence has suddenly, and without warning, been deprioritized by the other party. Nobody wants to think that they are less important that a slashdot RSS feed or a text msg, and to have another human imply that is, within the context of current social "rules", offensive. That's one of the attitudes that would need to evolve.

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    17. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, there are plenty of narcissistic persons out there. They aren't necessarily malicious, but they are apparently unable to comprehend that others have lives and priorities of their own.

      You seem to be a prime example. That entire post is all about what you want without any consideration for the people you're talking to. And still you wonder why everybody hates you. Social interaction is all about making your conversation partner feel important, welcome, loved. Exchanging information is secondary.

    18. Re:Duh! by lxs · · Score: 2

      The stuff I am doing is not necessarily unimportant!

      It may be important to you but it's not to the person you're talking to. It took me a while to realize this, but this whole "I'm a nerd" thing is just an excuse to behave like a spoiled inconsiderate brat.

    19. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason you think that way is that your parents were brother and sister.

    20. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the possible exception of AC's last sentence, I think his point is quite valid.
      Personally I chalk it up to something of a combined failing on all parts. If some people had better social skills (which is not something that comes naturally to everyone, despite what some want everyone to believe) then such small-talkers could be dealt with more tactfully. Simultaneously, if such small-talkers could recognize that not everyone wants to listen to them making a lot of noise without really saying anything, then the problem wouldn't get to such a point. So, perhaps, the lack of social skills goes both ways, and therefore the "fault" should be equally distributed.

    21. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. When I am doing some work, I might not have time to answer your question about where the bus stop is. Your mistake when I don't look busy enough to not be disturbed.

      And I can be nice in a social setting. I wouldn't stare at an app in someone's wedding or whatever. But jsut because I am standing outside, doesn't mean I'm available for chatter.

    22. Re:Duh! by lxs · · Score: 1

      You sound very convinced of your own importance. Which is a polite way of saying that you sound like a pompous ass. Maybe you are one, I don't know.

    23. Re: Duh! by TheLink · · Score: 2

      No the norms do not have to evolve at all, until most humans can themselves evolve to be good multitaskers e.g. able to have more than one conversation at the same time, or similar.

      It is rude. As you can see from the responses from those who think it's OK - they're so full of "I'm more important than you hence you'll have to do with what I have leftover" or similar[1].

      If you are having a conversation with someone, it is rude to not pay attention. Maybe if you are a virtuoso multi-tasker you can do it successfully and the other person won't notice, but most people can't do that - they will miss stuff and either get the wrong message or the other person will have to repeat himself/herself.

      So it's not cultural bias until humans themselves can multitask way better than they can now.

      [1] Yes we all know there are people who are more important than others. But you can be more important without being an asshole. You could be President of the World and you're polite if you actually have a real conversation (without reading your email) or if you just tell people "sorry, I'm too busy to talk to you", or "Sorry can you send me an email instead?". You're rude if you attempt a conversation and then do other things at the same time. Because you'll be wasting other people's time while treating them as if they are wasting your time.

      p.s. Too often I'm guilty of being this rude. It still is rude though.

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    24. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big difference is this thread topic was about "during a conversation" not "while busy doing some work".

      If you have not agreed to a conversation ("sorry too busy to talk) because you are busy doing work then there's no problem at all. And the person bothering you is rude if he persists.

      But if you have started a conversation and then keep checking your wearable/whatever you're being rude. End your conversation properly then go check your wearable.

      Lastly if we have to keep checking our wearable computers for important messages then something is really wrong. The device should be able to alert me of important stuff. The device should serve me not the other way around.

    25. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone pulls out a phone to check on shit without excusing themselves, I promptly excuse myself and leave. You'd be surprised how many people are willing to put the phone away then. If they don't, then it's a good thing, because then I know not to waste any more time with that person in the future.

    26. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is rude. The courteous thing would be to tell the person you are talking to that something has come up, apologize and excuse yourself. Once you have excused yourself, go do whatever you need to do and come back if you have the time to spare. Don't keep shifting your attention back and forth between people.

      One simple thing you can do is to set up individual ringtones for important people, like your wife, so that you know whether the incoming call, text or email is worth checking in the first place.

    27. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other words, you are so socially inept and afraid of asserting yourself that you can't simply tell someone that you are busy and can't talk.

    28. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Pebble smart watch user gave an example: 'People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages. It sent the wrong signal.'

      I've got news for you. You're not sending a good signal when you check your phone for text messages during a conversation either. In either case you're indirectly but very clearly saying to the person standing in front of you that anything, including the time of day, a text message, or a facebook update is more important/interesting than what you are saying to me right now.

      Bingo.

      Also, I completely disagree with this statement: "t's nearly impossible to train yourself to avoid the reflex-like response of interacting."
      No, it's not. Go read about a guy named Pavlov and his dog.
      You trained yourself to react to stimulus, you can untrain yourself. Guess what- you don't HAVE to answer the fucking phone, you don't HAVE to see what that text message or FB status update says. Really, you don't. And aside from a few Aspies like Sheldon Cooper, you're completely in control of this if you WANT to be.

      Sometimes it's fun to play an mp3 of standard ringtones, randomly, and watch all the well-trained canines in the grocery store panic as they search for their dinnerbell, err I mean cell phone. It's easy to spot the iPhone users- just play the default text message/FB alert tone and watch for the ones who start to drool uncontrollably.

    29. Re:Duh! by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well it is rude to give bad lip/listen service to someone. if you'd rather be reading txt messages, just walk away and check them on the pc?

      but has vint cerf really degraded into writing whatifweshouldorshouldweorcanwe shit? so yeah if you got someone giving you a lecture about wearable computing the appropriate response is probably to do something better with your time.

      by the way if someone had somewhere to be and was checking the time that's probably a lot less rude than reading meaningless messages or checking some useless rss feed or whatever. if you were just using the pebble to get someone to ask what the fuck it is.. then go jump off a cliff. HIGHLANDER! I AM FOREVER!

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    30. Re:Duh! by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is my system for not being rude in today's "Tech-enhanced society":

      I'll stick my phone in my pocket when I'm speaking with someone. It stays there, untouched, with the following exceptions:

      1. Phone rings - I reach down in my pocket without breaking the conversation and tap a button to silence the call. Often I include "Excuse me." while I perform the action. I can check the call number later.
      2. Phone rings again almost immediately - I tell the person, "It seems like someone really needs to get ahold of me. Please excuse me for a moment."

      Pretty much anything else I'll leave to a 'Bathroom Break'.

      Seems to be a courteous approach to me.

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    31. Re:Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can't be set to vibrate when an incoming message occurs?

      Actually it's kind of amazing that many animals see a locked gaze as aggressive behavior, but humans flip their shit if you don't while they are talking to you. Or if you do when they aren't talking at all.

      Fuck humans, y'all crazy.

    32. Re: Duh! by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Maybe if you are a virtuoso multi-tasker you can do it successfully and the other person won't notice

      Nobody like that exists. There is just a number of aholes who think they are a "virtuoso multi-tasker".

    33. Re:Duh! by ultranova · · Score: 1

      You seem to be a prime example. That entire post is all about what you want without any consideration for the people you're talking to.

      Demanding that I get to control my time and attention is different than demanding I get to control your time and attention. Also, the whole point of being able to use the wearable compute unnoticed is to avoid offending people who think the world revolves around them while also avoiding letting them control me. Finally, you can't be bothered to make a Slashdot account for yourself so who are you to talk about consideration to people you're talking to?

      And still you wonder why everybody hates you.

      When you say you'll hate me for not making you the center of my attention forsaking all else whenever you desire, I'm reminded of that guy who threw acid on the face of a girl who spurned his advances.

      Social interaction is all about making your conversation partner feel important, welcome, loved.

      And if I don't treats yours as the most important thing in the world, you'll hate me. That sounds more like a power game to me.

      Exchanging information is secondary.

      To you, maybe. But what right do you have to demand everyone else treats it as such?

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  4. The wrong signal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    'People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages. It sent the wrong signal.'

    If you are monitoring incoming message while you are with other people you ARE being rude.

    1. Re: The wrong signal? by Tx · · Score: 1

      The people that are sending the messages aren't people? Maybe I find it rude that people think just because they happen to be in my personal space, that they automatically deserve my undivided attention?

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    2. Re: The wrong signal? by Zaelath · · Score: 2

      Then maybe you should explain that to those people and they'll make sure they're not in your personal space. Problem solved!

    3. Re: The wrong signal? by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't worry- the problem will solve itself. Keep checking your phone/smart watch for messages while conversing with others and before long you won't have to put up with people in "your personal space" any more.

    4. Re: The wrong signal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why are they in your personal space? I assume we are not talking about strangers on a train here, but people with whom you have met in person in order to interact with them.

    5. Re: The wrong signal? by Libertarian001 · · Score: 1

      Your continued presence implies that that they do deserve your undivided attention. If you don't wish for this to be the case then you should excuse yourself and leave.

    6. Re:The wrong signal? by meerling · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've got a (ex)wife that won't fail to answer/reply to a text, even when driving. (Unless it's me, of course.) I've yelled at her many times for texting while driving, and she's gotten 3 very expensive traffic tickets for that so far. (Unless there're more I didn't find out about.)

      Some people won't stop, it's as though it's wired into their brains and everything else is second if not third.

    7. Re: The wrong signal? by blackest_k · · Score: 2

      conversely you are in their personal space too. Pretty much if you are in the same space and if you are not strangers then ignoring them is pretty damn rude. you can always excuse yourself and then give your device your attention. Anything less is being pretty dickish however if you are in the company of someone similar to yourself then it may be acceptable. You must realise that a large majority of people would find your behaviour offensive.

      To be fair smart phones are pretty good at queueing up notifications. friends can post things, email arrives, the phone is pretty good at keeping me informed with a brief tone to let me know something could require my attention. However the extra stage of bringing it out is a useful one as i get to choose when to respond.

      Google glass and the pebble don't lend themselves to the idea of putting them away. kind of like bluetooth headsets are useful but unless you have a lot of calls coming in they are also putting the technology in front of the user. I think that really is the issue. As a user technology should assist but, some of these devices put the user as the peripheral to the device. That's not good, not good at all. I can see how some people can relate to the technology better than with people but i think they are in the minority. I could see work situations thou where google glass was a key part of how somebody works much like a 2 way radio can be a necessary part of somebodies working day.

       

    8. Re: The wrong signal? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Then why are they in your personal space? I assume we are not talking about strangers on a train here, but people with whom you have met in person in order to interact with them.

      If you really are Strangers on a Train, and you're constantly checking your monitoring devices... the other guy is probably going to think you're a cop.

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    9. Re:The wrong signal? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Lucky you're not a vindictive ex, texting her whenever you know she driving. But I guess these days you can be held responsible if she's in an accident if you do that...

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    10. Re: The wrong signal? by tchuladdiass · · Score: 2

      That is one thing that really gets under my skin -- when I am visiting with someone (i.e., I took the effort to go over to their space, whether it is a co-worker's office, or visiting with family), and their phone rings. No matter what we're in the middle of talking about, that phone call always gets priority.

    11. Re: The wrong signal? by russotto · · Score: 1

      Don't worry- the problem will solve itself. Keep checking your phone/smart watch for messages while conversing with others and before long you won't have to put up with people in "your personal space" any more.

      In the words of that reknowned poet and epigrammist, Grumpycat: GOOD.

    12. Re: The wrong signal? by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

      That is one thing that really gets under my skin -- when I am visiting with someone (i.e., I took the effort to go over to their space, whether it is a co-worker's office, or visiting with family), and their phone rings. No matter what we're in the middle of talking about, that phone call always gets priority.

      I had this sort of issue with one particular boss. He would constantly place our conversations "on hold" so that he could take a phone call. He got the point though when I left his office during one such interruption and called him on the phone so that we could continue the conversation.

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    13. Re: The wrong signal? by bfandreas · · Score: 1

      The people that are sending the messages aren't people? Maybe I find it rude that people think just because they happen to be in my personal space, that they automatically deserve my undivided attention?

      One is synchronous face-to-face interaction while the other is asynchronous. A text message doesn't go away. you can deal with it later. And even if you get a phone call you still should politely ask "Do you mind if I take this?". You can always call back.

      Of course the originators of the remote non-face-to-face messages are people, too. But they are not there. If your constant distraction forces you to check your devices then you are sending the wrong messages. Your body language tells the person next to you that he/she is not important and that can be a problem. We gladly acknowledge we are mammals at any given opportunity. We should also admit that we are primates and body language is a big part of our interaction.


      So please consider what kind of interaction is important. Or you may be either punched in the face or deprived of some promising flirt.

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    14. Re:The wrong signal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really hope you manage to dissuade her from texting when she's operating a motor vehicle. I wouldn't be able to relax if I stood in your shoes and she's out there doing that.

      Link related, a new campaign on this topic from the Netherlands with a very entertaining message:
      http://www.daarkunjemeethuiskomen.nl/aandacht/campagne/tv-commercial/aandacht-kat/

    15. Re: The wrong signal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SMS, email or even IM aren't meant for instantaneous back and forth discussion. If the person contacting you via your phone isn't calling voice, then they'd have to be feeling a little more than entitled to expect an immediate response. I'm sorry, but being in the physical company of others outweighs any text-based messages coming to your phone and probably most of the voice calls too.

    16. Re: The wrong signal? by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      That is one thing that really gets under my skin -- when I am visiting with someone (i.e., I took the effort to go over to their space, whether it is a co-worker's office, or visiting with family), and their phone rings. No matter what we're in the middle of talking about, that phone call always gets priority.

      I had this sort of issue with one particular boss. He would constantly place our conversations "on hold" so that he could take a phone call. He got the point though when I left his office during one such interruption and called him on the phone so that we could continue the conversation.

      You realize of course that just because you go into someone's space, you don't automatically get priority? It's equally as invasive as a phonecall, arguably more so.

  5. No, no we aren't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The social stigma of checking your damn watch still hasn't gone away, and we expect people to accept wearables like Google Glass? Maybe when the boomers and the gen x/y are pretty much gone, the melianals will maybe think it is ok at that point.

    The ability of some people to multitask by emailing/txting and having a conversation has to be acknowledged by society as a whole before wearable will even have a chance.

    1. Re:No, no we aren't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its the power of advertising.

      Hell, Virginia Slims marketed a product to women that makes their face look like the rear-end of a diesel bus - and actually sold them on the product!

    2. Re: No, no we aren't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ability of some people to multitask has yet to be demonstrated. Study after study has shown that people who think they're good at multitasking, aren't.

  6. People thought I was being rude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People thought I was being rude and checking the time constantly when I was really monitoring incoming messages

    So you were being rude by ignoring them and 'monitoring' incoming messages.

    1. Re:People thought I was being rude by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

      You check your watch for incoming messages. You look at your phone to check the time.

      So, it has come to this.

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    2. Re:People thought I was being rude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You check your watch for incoming messages. You look at your phone to check the time.

      So, it has come to this.

      I call people with my wall clock.

  7. we've had wearable communication devices for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    they're called pagers. I know now one but drug dealers and doctors wear them anymore, but they do exist.

    I wear a pager for work and frequently have to wear it when out in public. I can turn the alert from audible to vibrate when I am in public. Most relevant to the issue at hand, it took me 1-2 years after I got my first pager to train myself to not automatically look at the pager as soon as a message/phone number came in.

    In short, you CAN train yourself to not look instantly once you get it through your head that you are not expecting an urgent/emergency alert.

    Similarly, hospitals are environments where, because of the ubiquity of wearable communication devices (ie pagers) it has become socially acceptable to read incoming messages almost anytime.

    My conclusion is that these two forces will apply outside of the hospital/drug deal: people will learn to resist looking instantly at their watch or other wearable device unless they really are expecting something urgent and bystanders (many of whom will have wearables of their own) will grow to accept more frequent checking of such devices in the correct context.

  8. Say "cheese" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New vistas in stalking.

  9. From Neal Stephenson's 'Snow Crash' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Gargoyles represent the embarrassing side of the Central Intelligence Corporation. Instead of using laptops, they wear their computers on their bodies, broken up into separate modules that hang on the waist, on the back, on the headset. They serve as human surveillance devices, recording everything that happens around them. Nothing looks stupider; these getups are the modern-day equivalent of the slide-rule scabbard or the calculator pouch on the belt, marking the user as belonging to a class that is at once above and far below human society. They are a boon to Hiro because they embody the worst stereotype of the CIC stringer. They draw all the attention. The payoff for this self-imposed ostracism is that you can be in the Metaverse all the time, and gather intelligence all the time."

  10. Sure, no problem by djupedal · · Score: 0

    Because we all know how lovable those two are when one says "I'm near the tools" belarpp and the other says "I'm near the linens" deeeep. Who doesn't love to be part of someone else's game of big box marco polo. . .

  11. If it gets common we will adapt by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember someone telling me once, he was one of the very first people who got a earplug/microphone for his cell phone and even cell phones were fairly rare. So he was apparently talking straight into thin air to someone who wasn't there, holding a conversation with them. Unless they spotted the earpiece and realized what it was, people thought he was certifiably insane. Today nobody would blink twice at that.

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    1. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by dinfinity · · Score: 2

      Today nobody would blink twice at that.

      Blink: No.
      Feel the urge to repeatedly punch them in the face? Yes.

    2. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't know where you live, but it's still odd to see people talking on a bluetooth or single earbud when walking around. People still get confused and think they are talking to someone to themselves. That said, I don't see many people with bluetooth outside of driving.

      I live on the east coast, so not exactly an unpopulated area.

    3. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know he is a faggot. It seems like this is the pot calling the kettle black. You sound to me like you are the toughest guy on the internets. That is saying quite a bit. Maybe you and Chuck Norris could do something usefull like free Tibet by kicking all of the PRC's collective asses. I heard that everyone in China was a short little yellow faggot nerd, kind of like this guy, only not as fat. You and Chuck should have no problem with this little task at all. You will probably be back before lunch, and have time to kick my lilly white as too.

      Good Luck To You
      -Free Tibet.

    4. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by broken_chaos · · Score: 1

      This has been adopted by some more self-aware schizophrenics to not look crazy, now that it's commonplace.

    5. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because you're a loser. That is literally the only possible reason you would feel that way, and no claim to the contrary can be anything but a filthy lie.

      You cannot avoid proving me right.

    6. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      What is it with Slashdot, new technology and psychotic violent outbursts?

    7. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      It's not the (old) technology, it's the people using it, why and how they're using it.

      I did the whole earpiece+mic communication thing in 2003, but quickly decided that unless there was a really good reason for it, it was just terribly annoying to everybody around me. Holding a device up to your ear is a (reasonably) clear social signal that you're talking to somebody on your phone. Unless the technology or people using it support a different equivalent social signal, it will always cause confusion. Instances of confusion coupled with the almost inevitable scorning "I'm not talking to you" from the calling party, form a solid basis for wanting to punch them in the face.

    8. Re:If it gets common we will adapt by eepok · · Score: 1

      People are not confident in the quality and sensitivity of their cell phone receivers/microphones. To compensate, they yell, over-enunciate, repeat themselves, or a combination of the prior to feel more confident in their communications. Moreover, many people have very specific PR-style telephone voices and tones (faux excitement/outrage, etc.) that make it easy to stereotype their speakers as ditzy, shallow, etc.

      Each of those actions (and particularly combinations therein) are typically very annoying to hear. The frequent annoyance without a socially acceptable method of addressing such annoyance leads to frustration. Frustration leads to outbursts.

      Solution #1 Old-school wired telephone receivers or hands-free headsets with the microphones that extend from the ear to the mouth. These physical additions to phones increase confidence and allow a user to feel more confident that his communication is being received.

      Solution #2 Make cell phones better phones. Take a couple million dollars that would otherwise be spent on facilitating the graphics requires for the next implementation of "Angry Bird: Fruit Ninja Attack" and make cell phone communication clearer.

  12. neural computing by Xicor · · Score: 1

    what are they going to do when we have neurally connected computers that sync with our brains?

    1. Re:neural computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Living for the swarm

      Captcha : unionize

  13. Silent Mode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, wearable devices such as watches don't have silent mode? (No, I'm not talking about vibrate mode).

  14. Form Factor by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's all about the form factor, and Google has gotten it wrong with Google Glass. IMO, the best possible form factor for wearable computing is that of a wrist watch. Even in that regard, companies like Samsung have still gotten it wrong, and for the exact opposite reason that Google has gone wrong.

    Glasses are essentially a display device. They should be an I/O type peripheral, but Google made them the heart of the system. They can't be anything but glasses, on your face, obvious to everyone, with a camera sitting there pointing at everyone, drawing suspicion about what is being recorded or what you might be seeing, etc. They should not be the core of the system, but a peripheral to be used only when needed for those specific functions.

    Now take Samsung's watch. It SHOULD be the core of the system. It should have your CPU, storage, networking, etc, because it is a non-invasive device that billions of people are already used to wearing all day every day. It is the optimum form factor for having with you all the time everywhere you go (even while swimming, etc). But instead they made it a mere peripheral for their phones / tablets.

    The watch should be the core of the system. You can do simple tasks with its small display, it can vibrate in different places (on the bottom of the band, in the watch, etc) in different patterns that could communicate a variety of things without any annoying sound effects (since it's on the wrist the vibration could be very light, unlike a cell phone which has to be felt through clothing, etc). Then if you need a bigger display, you grab a tablet IO device (a mere wireless peripheral for IO for your watch), or a device like Google Glass, or you simply output media from your watch to the nearest TV, etc.

    Anyway, IMO I think everyone is getting it totally backwards when it comes to wearable computing devices.

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    1. Re:Form Factor by n30na · · Score: 1

      I would argue that glasses are a just goddamn fine form factor as long as they look like normal glasses.. we just need to give the tech a few more years. It would also help to have a less shit interface to it.

    2. Re:Form Factor by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      Oh, how i agree sir. Problem is the tech giants won't want to make it the heart, because that will cannibalise the already very profitable smartphone market. Once one company makes a nice version with its own modem (flexible wrap around screen that’s easy to put on and take off) and it's an inevitable runaway success, then every man and his dog will offer a sim card version of the smart watch. One small issue is battery capacity, but by spreading them out around the band and increases in battery technology, we should be able to make some damn sexy watch-smart-phones soon. I reckon that is apples way to come back to relevance, but the lure of a couple of extra quick bucks now selling an accessory for the iphone may be too great.

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    3. Re:Form Factor by Dr+Max · · Score: 1

      I would buy a HUD if it looked like a normal pair of glasses (with 2 screens for 3d augmented reality) but i still think the watch makes a good heart of the system, due to its portability and easy yet unassuming access.

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    4. Re:Form Factor by anubi · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Form Factor by gman003 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not a bad analysis, but I think it misses something. Right now, the watch phones have too poor a battery life to have significant processing power. The watch might make a decent display, but that's about all it can do with any quality. So it's in the same realm as the glasses.

      We're going to need person-area networks. Put a big battery and a powerful computer system in your pocket, have it connect to the watch and glasses for user I/O. Problem is, at that point you may as well slap a screen on the computer part, and then you've got a full smartphone, which reduces the necessity of the other two.

    6. Re:Form Factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think they are only a camera on normal glasses no screens or retina projection going on.

    7. Re:Form Factor by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      The problems are not in terms of design, but purely technical. A phone has a much greater volume, hence more space for a battery and larger internals. It also has more surface area, which helps radiate heat away. A watch just cannot match the processing power and battery capacity of a phone, which is the same thing as between a laptop and a phone or a desktop and a laptop. As with phones, though, watches will get more and more powerful, especially if they catch on. Yet, for each step down in terms of size, we get closer to an absolute limit in terms of miniaturization. I don't expect a watch to ever equal a phone in terms of power or battery life, which is generally why the watch is considered a peripheral as opposed to the core: it just makes more sense from a technical standpoint.

    8. Re:Form Factor by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      > with a camera sitting there pointing at everyone,
      > drawing suspicion about what is being recorded

      I still find it insane that people think that surreptitious picture taking is the primary selling point of Google Glass. When I heard about the thing, my thought was not: "Ah ha, I can use this to secretly record people without their permission.". It was more like: "Cool... Frikkn' Terminator vision!!!"

      Granted, the camera is a necessary part in generating the sort of informational overlays that I'm imagining. But the ability to record is completely tangental to how I'd want to use the thing.

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    9. Re:Form Factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put a big battery and a powerful computer system in your pocket

      The first time I've seen a cell phone was in 1975, military equipment. It had a huge backpack for the battery which was to heavy for me (I was six years old) to even lift.

    10. Re:Form Factor by Kvan · · Score: 1

      LG has wire form batteries in their pipeline, which would enable the entire wristband to be a battery (assuming heat can be controlled). That could easily equal the volume of many smartphone batteries. Processing power is another matter though.

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      - 'K' in Men in Black.

    11. Re:Form Factor by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      The smart watch is never ever taking off.

      It requires two hands to use (one supports the watch, the other hand to operate it's buttons).

      A smartphone requires one hand - that can both support the device and operate it.

      I really don't understand what is so hard about this limitation for people to understand.

    12. Re:Form Factor by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Well, if a large Futurama-style device is acceptable then you can just strap a smartphone to your arm right now...

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    13. Re:Form Factor by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      It was more like: "Cool... Frikkn' Terminator vision!!!"

      Google Glass doesn't do that kind of augmented reality. For that, you'd need a display that encompasses your entire field of view at the minimum, plus it's difficult to keep the augmented elements properly registered with the actual scene with a transparent display. (I.e., if you want to draw a circle around a person's head, the circle is going to lag their movement due to processing time unless you make your headgear opaque and re-display the whole screen with the same latency as the processing.) It's the kind of thing that produces not only figurative headaches for the developer, but literal ones (and/or vertigo) for the user.

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    14. Re:Form Factor by tazbert · · Score: 1

      I'm a Pebble user; it's just a lightweight, wearable, waterproof remote display & remote control for my smartphone. I don't need it to be packed with processing power - that's what my phone is for. I need it to be rugged, easy to read at a glance, and cheap enough to replace when I trash it. So far, I've been very happy with its limited functionality, and have had no problems (at least, to my knowledge) with being perceived as rude by discreetly checking incoming texts and emails. It does draw a bit of attention when I use it to display my stored loyalty-card barcode for scanning at the supermarket. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad.

    15. Re:Form Factor by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      Now take Samsung's watch. It SHOULD be the core of the system. It should have your CPU, storage, networking, etc, because it is a non-invasive device that billions of people are already used to wearing all day every day. It is the optimum form factor for having with you all the time everywhere you go (even while swimming, etc). But instead they made it a mere peripheral for their phones / tablets.

      The watch should be the core of the system. You can do simple tasks with its small display, it can vibrate in different places (on the bottom of the band, in the watch, etc) in different patterns that could communicate a variety of things without any annoying sound effects (since it's on the wrist the vibration could be very light, unlike a cell phone which has to be felt through clothing, etc). Then if you need a bigger display, you grab a tablet IO device (a mere wireless peripheral for IO for your watch), or a device like Google Glass, or you simply output media from your watch to the nearest TV, etc

      And here is where we disagree. The watch should be a peripheral due to several unavoidable drawbacks:

      1. Heat - Have you ever felt how hot a phone can get when it's operating? It would get very uncomfortable to have that heat strapped on your wrist. I'd hate to start sweating because my cellWatch was doing some processing.

      2. Batteries - All those extra features means power, and to get a usable life you need batteries. And putting those batteries on your arm is not going to be confortable or small.

      3. Features and antennas take space - Features, processors, antennas, all have design considerations which take up space. Sure, you can get them into a phone form factor, but the phone form factor is still much larger than what you want to put on someone's wrist.

      Personally, I think that a nearly dumb 'terminal' or thin-client interface on the wrist is the way to go. Because of number 4:

      4: Interoperability and upgradeability: With a thin-client like interface, where the standalone phone does the heavy lifting, you allow people to use your iWatch thing with an assortment of phones, and they have the option to upgrade at a later date. As long as you provide a decent interface spec, the phones can come and go, be upgraded, repaired, traded, and so on without the user having to replace their watch. It give you the flexibility to introduce a lot of colors/shapes/sizes without having to literally rebuild a phone into each of your iWatch designs.

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    16. Re:Form Factor by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      Call me old fashioned, but I think I'll look fondly on the days when I could get a scratch on my watchband and not have my hand burst into flames as the battery fails.

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  15. Co.. RING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you convince your mom to put it on my **** then why not!

  16. Doesn't Glasshole say it all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which is not to say that the day won't come when _everyone_ is _always_ "jacked in."

    William Gibson nearly had it right in, I forget, was it Burning Chrome or Mona Lisa Overdrive, with the microsoft (versus MicroSoft®) slot surgically implanted at the base of your skull.

    Ha ha, the captch is "vacuous"

  17. No No No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do Not Want.

  18. Too fragile for the wrist. by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    My phone has the time, it does all of the messaging already, better than a 'wearable' on my wrist, phone is stowed safely in my pocket. I can count at least 10 watches in my life that got scratched faces, damaged from shocks, or got hooked on something and had the strap break, bye-bye watch!

    So now, I'm expected to do the consumer thing again by buying an over-priced, extremely fragile and unperfected new piece of tech. Thanks anyway, I'll pass on this 'magic'.

    1. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by mspohr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lots of people have expensive watches (some of them very expensive) and most of them seem to have no problem keeping them intact. (However, in your case, maybe a watch is not a good idea.)
      A wrist watch is much more convenient than digging into your pocket to check the time, messages, etc. So just as wrist watches superseded pocket watches, smart watches will supersede pocket phones.

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    2. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Some people do still wear watches - but I stopped wearing one shortly after I purchased my first cell phone.

      If I had to dress better for work than my usual cargo pants plus casual shirt, though, I might still wear a watch occasionally - but it would be a "style" thing, since there's no real utility in wearing one nowadays.

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    3. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by mspohr · · Score: 1

      The utility of a smart watch is that has the functionality of your smart phone (without the pocket bulge... or do you like to "augment" your bulge with your phone?).

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    4. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And maybe he's just not into jewelry. Lots of people who can afford necklaces, diamond rings and expensive watches choose not to wear them. Perhaps they aren't into being ostentacious, preferring function over fashion.

    5. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lots of people have expensive watches (some of them very expensive) and most of them seem to have no problem keeping them intact. (However, in your case, maybe a watch is not a good idea.)

      My life and professions have been probably more 'active' than others. Once cellphones became realistic to own was the last time I ever wore a watch. One less thing to think about/care for. No, I've learned 'wearables' are not for me.

      Sometimes lately I'll go days before checking my phone for messages, as I've been able to re-learn how it feels again to not feel the need to be always 'connected'. It's rather freeing.

      When tech catches up to the point where everything is incorporated into one sole device, that won't have need for constant attention from the user, perhaps I'll adopt in. I'll check back in a few years...

    6. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smart watches aren't yet so ''smart'', as they still rely on that thing in your pocket to communicate.

    7. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Expected? ...That's the saddest thing I've read today.

    8. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you work in any sort of profession where you work with your hands, use tools, operate machinery (even relatively light machinery), or are otherwise walking/running/crouching/squatting/crawling/and or climbing--then watches, jewelery, and accessories are bad ideas. Things tend to get caught when you least expect it and most need things to *not* get caught. Unless you spend all day in an office, a phone tucked away in a pocket, or even a backpack or purse nearby is a safer option.

    9. Re:Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this is a little judgemental. But with the expensive watches, it's the kind of men who wear jewelry that are able to wear them without damaging it. Even the average guy on slashdot is probably living a more rugged life than that kind of person.

    10. Re: Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most successful watch lines are purpose built for active lifestyles - military, exploration, diving etc. A lot of buyers have them for show, but their reputations were established by real world ruggedness.

    11. Re: Too fragile for the wrist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My concern isn't the ruggedness of the watch--it's the ruggedness of the human attached to it. When getting snagged on something causes me to take a fall (an actual, likely lethal possibility at my job) or even just puts me off balance, it's putting my life and possibly others in danger. There's a good reason many jobs ban jewelery and accessories.

      Watches are replaceable. Humans, well, we haven't solved that yet.

  19. Reaction to Google Glass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The reaction to someone wearing Google Glass should be the same as if someone held their cell phone like they were recording a video of you. Maybe they aren't, but you don't know.

    Take them off or go away. It's rude otherwise.

  20. Nope by FuzzNugget · · Score: 1

    They may just be tools, but they'll make you look like one too.

  21. The fundamental problem by msobkow · · Score: 1

    The fundamental problem with all wearable computing and cell phones is that they are an interruptive technology. While they do queue up SMS messages and emails so you can deal with them when convenient, people don't do so. Instead they rudely proceed to stop whatever they're doing, even a conversation, to deal with the message right now.

    There is no excuse for it other than being rude.

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    1. Re:The fundamental problem by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Smartphones are fundamentally interruptive, yes (they're designed to be a communications technology, after all!). Wearable computers, on the other hand, are designed to work more like "virtual secretaries:" to automatically figure out what you're doing and help you do it.

      For example, if you're having a face-to-face conversation with somebody, your wearable should most emphatically not be facilitating a text message or something; instead, it should be using the (automatically detected) fact that you're conversing in order to automatically suppress all other messages and should be storing/outlining/cross-referencing the conversation instead. (This is something your smartphone can't do, because your smartphone isn't able to sense that you're having a conversation.)

      This whole "Google Glass distracts people with text messages" BS is just an unfortunate side-effect of the fact that the technology took a detour through cell phones to get to its current state. It should really be considered a misfeature.

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  22. Who would want it? by OhANameWhatName · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where are we going? Is this a borg society where people are going to be continuously plugged into some sort of network grid and that's the most important thing in the world?

    There are scientists and engineers pushing this idea of wearable computing because it seems cool. What we need isn't the opinion of scientists and engineers, we need to focus on philosophy. Adjust society for computer? Bah, what a load of hogwash. Adjust computing for society! Stop thinking like a computer engineer and start thinking like a human being .. not a human doing.

    1. Re:Who would want it? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      With the original computer revolution, being a nerd suddenly became sort of cool. Now that geeks are attempting to drive the way society is heading with these sorts of things, though, I wonder how long it will be before society as a whole says "oh, yeah, THIS is why we relegated these guys to the back room of the library way back then..."

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    2. Re:Who would want it? by gnoshi · · Score: 2

      We're continuously adjusting society for various technological changes. At some point, there would have been social adjustment for whether it was polite to have a record on in the background while having guests, or answering the landline telephone during a conversation, or having the TV on in the background when eating dinner.
      This is no different. Social norms need to be developed to match new developments in technology.

      There is a valid discussion to be had about the social impacts of being continuously connected to a broader 'network' of friends, information, and so on. I think that is the discussion you want to have, not the one about social norms.

    3. Re:Who would want it? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Yes, join the collective. Look at me now: http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/pictures/BorgAnt.jpg ... ;)

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    4. Re:Who would want it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't try to pin this one on nerds. Nerds tend to dislike ubiquitous surveillance more than the average Joe.

    5. Re:Who would want it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is your problem if you choose to be the tool, instead of making technology the tool for you.

      Start thinking like a human being?? "You and me baby aint nothing but mammal."

  23. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone still use pagers?

    Here, they disappeared completely when sms appeared and got similiar coverage. A few years later, and that is many years ago, they shut down the pager infrastructure. It saw so little use - it didn't pay to have parallel systems. Each and every mobile phone support at least SMS - and when they get an SMS, they can both read the details in the message, and use the phone to call for more info. Kids see a pager in a classic movie now and don't know what it is.

    Mobile phones do so much more than pagers ever did - and I am not even talking about smartphones. Why do anybody still want pagers? For what? Even Africa use mobile phones now.

  24. Do Not Disturb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surely it's within the wit of designers to include a feature to stop interrupting me for a while, either for a set duration or until I say otherwise?

  25. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by Libertarian001 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wear a pager for work (hospital environment). When there, everyone knows exactly why I'm checking it immediately if it goes off. When there or elsewhere, I apologize for checking it by saying, "Sorry, I'm on call. I need to check this." Usually they ask if I need to take it. If I don't, I tell them someone else will get it (we blast to the entire group). If I do, I tell them I'll get it when we're finished. Yes, the stuff I work on is that time critical. 5 minutes can be, and has been, the difference between getting the parts I need that day and getting them back up, or them being down an extra day. I think the key is to tell your audience what's going on instead of just tuning them out.

  26. Re: Are We Socially Ready For Wearable Computing? by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

    I do not believe we are ready, nor have we as a people have been ready for much that may be thrown at us at this point. Recent things that have been brought to light involving the example set forth by our government: If people break the law, it is public record and evening news, if the government breaks the law, it's classified, that is a double standard and not a healthy or trustworthy attribute of a government. I doubt that the people believe such a device does not include a back door installed by the NSA or some other invasive corporate marketing directive, nor did they ever believe they would have to contend with military force being applied by a government on it's own people (being that the NSA is DOD rooted). The first response to revelations brought to light by Snowden is the government has tried to turn the tables and stated that Snowden is to blame for both the information awareness apparatus for the 'war on terrorism' and economic damage that has resulted. There are people out there that do not mind their privacy being invaded and I realize that, though there are others that are not terrorists or criminal that are offended by all this and further are a bit pist that this is what their tax dollars are spent on, so maybe it's time for a vote by the actual people rather than corporate owned political assets before we move forward with tech advances for now, hate to see something that might be a good product get swept aside due to the current situation at hand.

  27. Just like every cyberpunk setting by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

    We are ready because the technology is there. There will always be people that will look down on wearable technology, and in the future implanted technology. They dont matter. Technology wont stop, they will either adapt, or just eventually die.

  28. Are We Socially Ready For Wearable Computing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No and hopefully we never are.

  29. Google Glass should be outlawed. by FlyingGuy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I will give a person one chance to take them off and put them away around me. If it is a public place that I spend money, I will be polite and ask, "Please put that camera away.", if they refuse, I will go straight to the business owner, tell that that I am leaving and will no longer spend my money in their establishment as long as they allow those things, and leave. If it is in my home, they get the one chance and if they refuse, they will be unceremoniously ejected, if they argue the point, they get my fist right into their google glasses and then they will be thrown ( literately ) out my door and off of my property.

    As to the rest, if someone does not have social skills to know that constantly twiddling with their latest toy while in a conversation is just plain fucking RUDE I will make them aware of that and then leave.

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    1. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by gnoshi · · Score: 1

      That's all part of the development of social norms. The reason that signs such as 'we will not serve you while you are using your mobile phone' exist is because a set of norms are not universally accepted. Someone, at some point, decided that the norm they wanted in the store was one of not using your phone while interacting with the staff. By expressing your preferences and expectations, you are contributing to the formation of those standards of social behaviour.
      That may have been because it took longer to serve distracted people, or because the staff or management felt it was rude for people to be on their phones while being served. In any case, it is norm formation and enforcement.

      Of course, generally norm formation doesn't extend to punching someone in the face. There are norms against assault. Norms, and laws.

    2. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So an easily accessible and quickly available way of recording should be outlawed for exactly that reason?
      Let me guess, you are a cop and like to beat people up?

    3. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed with you on this. I'm just as irked when people are filming me in a restaurant with their cell phones.

    4. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I love the way you go from literally punching your houseguests in the face to complaining about people who lack social skills.

    5. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by greggman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I will politely tell you go shove it. You have no right to tell me what I can remember or how I can remember it whether I see it with organic eyes or digital eyes, hear it with organic ears or digital ears and store it in organic memory or digital memory. You also have no right to tell me who can I share my memories with or how I share them whether with analog audio or digital audio, whether with analog transmission or digital transmission.

      The rest of us will augment. First it will start with people that can't see or can't hear or can't remember things well, then it will continue to most of the rest of us. It's only a matter of time. Just like we augmented our skin with clothing, our feet with shoes, our brains with slide rules, then calculators, then computers, we'll do the same with sight, sound, and memory.

      If you're not ready for that too bad for you.

    6. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they get my fist right into their google glasses
      +1

    7. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Dare · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I for one have no problem with you augmenting your eyes, ears and memory. I do have a bit of a problem with Google sharing your augmentations.

      Honestly, I would have no problem with a wearable, even always-on camera. It's the Google's panopticon bit I have reservations with.

    8. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Kjella · · Score: 1

      If it is a public place that I spend money, I will be polite and ask, "Please put that camera away.", if they refuse, I will go straight to the business owner, tell that that I am leaving and will no longer spend my money in their establishment as long as they allow those things, and leave.

      Of course it's probably not a choice of losing your business or losing no business. If those people don't want to put their Google Glass away and will find some other place to eat lunch next time, that's money lost too. By all means vote with your wallet, but if this becomes another fad in our increasingly more always-online society I doubt your pockets are deep enough. It's not obviously disruptive to other people so I think general apathy will win. Yeah, there's a bunch of people there with Google Glass and they might record me eating a burger but so what. It's not like you have an expectation of privacy for eating a burger in public and if you really wanted to do covert surveillance you probably could anyway.

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    9. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, they do have that right. It's called privacy, and it's the reason why it's somewhere between unethical and illegal (varying with circumstances) to video or audio record someone without their knowledge (and, at least implicit, consent).

    10. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Insightful. You can complain all you want, but it's going to happen one way or the other, short of another dark age. Easier just to adjust.

    11. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will give a person one chance to take them off and put them away around me. If it is a public place that I spend money, I will be polite and ask, "Please put that camera away.", if they refuse, I will go straight to the business owner, tell that that I am leaving and will no longer spend my money in their establishment as long as they allow those things, and leave. If it is in my home, they get the one chance and if they refuse, they will be unceremoniously ejected, if they argue the point, they get my fist right into their google glasses and then they will be thrown ( literately ) out my door and off of my property.

      In other words, you're a whiny little crybaby who fantasizes about being tough and assertive but will never actually act on his pathetic little daydreams.

    12. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      if they argue the point, they get my fist right into their google glasses and then they will be thrown ( literately ) out my door

      Is it any wonder that people want to record all the time when there are people who jump directly to extreme violence because someone disagrees with them?

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    13. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're being a little short-sighted, and a lot self-entitled selfish dick. Of course, no one has the right to tell you what you can remember or how.
      Nor to prevent you from "augmenting" yourself. (Snarf snarf - you need augmenting do you?)
      But we ALL do have a certain right to privacy, even in "public" places, to interrupt you from broadcasting this "memory" to everyone else on the planet.
      And to broadcast it live, at that.
      Of course, if you insist on your perceived techno rights trumping someone else's perceived privacy rights, then you better get ready for some random acts of violence, as hinted at by the numerous internet "tough guys" responding here.
      To coin your own phrase, if you're not ready for that violence, too bad for you.
      And then someone will invent a device to electronically scramble and/or fry your fancy new toys, and you better be ready to replace them repeatedly too.
      And someone else will compile a public database of ASSHOLES who insist on publicly recording and broadcasting strangers, with video evidence now turned against you to justify that listing, and you'll never get yourself off that list, ever. The internet never forgets, and your name will go down in history as a permanent loser, egotist and social leper. Congratulations, Greggman ! YOU WIN !
      Maybe you want to rethink your ill-considered policy before it backfires on you.

    14. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by greggman · · Score: 2

      I'm not "Recording" you. I'm "remembering" you. I just happen to either (a) have digital augmentation or (b) have equipment to read my memories (c) or both.

    15. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by greggman · · Score: 1

      I'm not wearing Google Glass. I'm having my blind eyes replaced with digital eyes and my disabled brain augmented with digital memory.

    16. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by greggman · · Score: 1

      No you don't have a "right" to privacy actually. The law might say you do but it's certainly not a natural right. Nothing in nature protects your privacy. Whereas other than force, nothing in nature prevents me from seeing, remembering and sharing.

      The self-entitled is the person that thinks their unnatural right to privacy outweighs others natural rights to sight, sound, memory, and sharing.

      I don't think my policy will backfire. Rather I think it's inevitable. Try to fight against it and you'll fail.

    17. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, he'll smash your Google classes, in case of which you become the whiny crybaby.

    18. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      They are already 'outlawed' in pretty much the whole of Europe under existing laws, in the sense that you have the right to demand from a private person who films you to stop doing that, have a right to obtain the originals and a right to get all copies destroyed. These rights are rarely asserted in daily life nowadays, like when someone films people with his mobile phone. But regarding Google glasses, who are much more sneaky and evil in their typical use cases (such as filming women and biometrically identifying them from their Facebook pages), people will assert their rights much more often and it's not unreasonable to expect that European courts will outright ban these kinds of devices (i.e. all devices that do not clearly indicate when they are filming someone).

      In other words, even in the unlikely event that they will catch on in the US, Google classes will likely never pose any serious problems in Europe.

    19. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd punch someone you liked enough to invite into your home? About that party invitation...

    20. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will record you, because when I record you that will make you angry, and when you get angry you punch me, and if I record that I will have evidence I can use against you so that you will not punch me in the future!

    21. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not fooling anybody.

    22. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, he won't. He'll just stand there silently fuming. If he gathers up all of his meager courage, he might just manage to make a passive-aggressive comment under his breath not quite loud enough for anyone to hear. That is the upper limit of ability for Internet Tough Guys like him (and you).

    23. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I reserve the right to minimise the amount of data about me being sent to a foreign power. It seems no one around here has thought about that - google glass will be the eyes and ears of the NSA, spying in places they could never hope to before, with an unprecedented level of detail.

      I find it weird that people are defending their "right" to wear one whilst knowing that they will be part of a network dedicated to fucking up other peoples' lives. Then they bitch that someone is threatening to punch their face in.

      This is not a game of D&D.

    24. Re:Google Glass should be outlawed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you don't have a "right" to privacy actually. The law might say you do but it's certainly not a natural right. Nothing in nature protects your privacy. Whereas other than force, nothing in nature prevents me from seeing, remembering and sharing.

      Do you believe there are any natural rights? What makes them more "natural" than the right to privacy?

      Your claim that there is no right to privacy is extremely weak. You would be better off arguing that privacy doesn't apply in some situations. However, try to argue that you have a right to record and share audio/visual data of other people in bathrooms and locker rooms and you'll find that the only people agreeing with you are exhibitionists.

  30. Buy an extended warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I am in a bar and you take video of me, you will
    be shopping for a new device shortly thereafter.

    1. Re:Buy an extended warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He won't need an extended warranty because you'll be buying it for him.

    2. Re:Buy an extended warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll be using your money to pay for it.

  31. Google Glass - Most Important Function by germansausage · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently the most important function of Google Glass is to summon "Internet Tough Guys" to post on Slashdot.

    "If somebody dares to wear Google Glasses without my permission I will shoot them in the face ....with a bazooka!!"

    1. Re:Google Glass - Most Important Function by Corbets · · Score: 2

      Apparently the most important function of Google Glass is to summon "Internet Tough Guys" to post on Slashdot.

      And then there are smartass cock-gobblers like you who are obviously in
      search of a good beating which is obviously overdue.

      Brilliant. Even just mentioning the topic works!

  32. I don't have time by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    ...to waste on waiting for people to finish their teleconversations, I got better fucking things to do. Like for instance, dealing with the next in line who's obviously not engaged in some inane drivel about what colour knickers Miley Bleedin' Cyrus might be wearing today and just wants to pay for his shit and go...

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  33. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by mark_reh · · Score: 2

    Hospitals still use pagers for one simple reason. They are 1000x more reliable than a text message. Pager system coverage areas are far larger and more saturated with signals than cell systems which are full of holes in coverage. The signaling scheme used in paging systems is more reliable and the frequencies used penetrate buildings better than cell signals.

  34. Obligatory by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

    You check your watch for incoming messages. You look at your phone to check the time.

    So, it has come to this.

    http://xkcd.com/1022/

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  35. Article asks a stupid question by russotto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We're never socially ready for ANYTHING new. The process of building social norms around something can't start until after that thing is introduced. The implication, then (often made explicit by hand-wringers calling themselves "ethicists" or some such thing) that we should stop the thing until we ARE "socially ready" for is equivalent to pure conservativism -- stopping everything new.

  36. Meh. by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 1

    How is this any different than people who do nothing than stare at their phone nearly every minute of the day? If I see some guy wearing Google Glass, I'll totally engage him and talk with him, because it's a great piece of technology. As for the social aspect...it's not a real issue. People willingly give their SSN to overseas customer service reps all the time.

  37. never... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Humanity has never been socially ready for change, even tho it is just about the only constant in life.

  38. Buy a jammer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a jammer.

  39. wearable computing is too fucking nerdy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with luck women will shun the dweebs who wear that crap and sooner or later it will die.

  40. Priorities: Do you really need to read that now? by thepacketmaster · · Score: 2

    It's great that we can be so connected, but ask yourself this: how urgent is that email from Amazon? Or that calendar invitation about a party next month? Are you living your life or just sifting through emails and instant messages? If you're on-call for your job, have a friend or family member in the hospital, or some similarly important event going on, then that's definitely a valid reason for interrupting a conversation and attending to your device. If you want to read emails while pretending to pay attention to someone, then perhaps face-to-face socialization isn't for you. While people *think* they can covertly read emails while holding a conversation, I've never met anybody that could actually do so. I've been guilty of trying that myself and realized how silly the whole situation is. Anyone trained in business or interpersonal communication will tell you the same thing: Pay attention to the person with whom you're speaking, or excuse yourself to read your emails.

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  41. Re: we've had wearable communication devices for y by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That oIs not the only reason. Cell phones (esp. old/early models) emit very strong EMR as compared to pagers, and thus pose a safety risk in many hospital environments.

  42. No different twenty years ago by J'raxis · · Score: 2

    "Right now, it's considered impolite to talk on your cellphone while checking out at the grocery store, or to ignore a face-to-face conversation in favor of texting somebody. But 20 years ago, those actions weren't even on our social radar."

    Sure they were. Twenty years ago, if you were in line at the grocery store and rather than paying attention to checking out, you were idly standing there chatting with the person next to you, that would be just as rude as talking on your cell phone. And if you were having a face-to-face conversation with someone and abruptly stopped to turn and interact with someone else, that would be considered just as rude as abruptly stopping to text.

    The rude behavior is the same then and now. Distraction, interruption, inattentiveness, and so on. All that's changed is that the technology has allowed the other person in the scenario to become a virtual presence than an actual.

  43. Sure, so long as I can identify who's wearing it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google Glass is perfect really, it looks dorky and obvious so at least you'll have no problems punching some asswipe who's uploading a video of you to Youtube.

  44. Will we ever truly be ready? by X!0mbarg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, though. My fellow workers and I refer to most folks walking by, obliviously texting away as "Pod-People". Many of them with ear buds (or even huge, bulky headphones) to emphasize their wanting not to hear you. People aren't truly in tune with proper social behavior with cell phones/smart phones and constant (albeit intermittent) communications now. If a device (any device) makes it even more of an attention hog than it has already become, then people are going to start walking into traffic (even more than they already do). Many people today are already texting people they are physically standing beside as a method of "whispering" things clandestinely, no matter how rude it really is. People are already getting fully absorbed in their smart phones to the point of not knowing how to hold a coherent conversation over a meal. All this will simply be compounded with the more pervasive devices. It's only a matter of time before Google Glass becomes outright illegal to use while driving. It's bad enough that people think that having their smart phone in their lap while driving is acceptable and considered safe, despite being illegal in many places. What is it going to take before people start taking serious offense at others' smart device use in public places? Not serving people while they are on their phone is a decent start. After all, how rude is it to be expecting someone else to give you proper attention to serve you, and you can't even be bothered to pay enough attention to get the amount of you bill right? Little wonder why many employers have effectively banned smart phone use while at work, particularly in the service and hospitality industry. How far will it go? Extremism exists, and will manifest itself on both sides of this topic. Mark my works: It Will Get Ugly!

  45. The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...do we have to get "socially ready" for anything? Computers, wearable or otherwise, are just tools. They serve us, it's not the other way around. Getting ready forcefully for some misguided new "concept" that nobody asked for is just stupid. Tools must solve real problems, not to artificially create them. Otherwise we'll all end up with monster versions of the Metro interface, won't we?

    What is the actual problem "wearable computing" solves, anyway?

  46. Dude, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That doesn't make any sense, unless you also demand that shops shut off their security cameras when you walk in the door, assault houseguests who use smartphones, spraypaint over other people's dashcams, and ask that people avert their eyes in your presence.

  47. Nope! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You can put a phone away and choose not to use it."

    Who is this "you" the author is talking abut? Certainly not the people I encounter.

  48. BS.. by SuperDre · · Score: 1

    it's BS that you can't 'put away' wearables, you can always turn them off.. It's not like people put away their phone during meetings anyway.. People are more and more distracted by all those mobile devices.. I would propably even go as far as just banning those devices from the workfloor..

    1. Re:BS.. by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      The fundamental issue is that the idea of "putting away" a wearable defeats its purpose, which is to augment your perceptions and memory. In a meeting, for example, your wearable is not supposed to be distracting you with other communications, it's supposed to be automatically recording the meeting minutes and cross-referencing topics for you! (In fact, your wearable ought to be able to figure out that you're in a meeting based on your calendar and/or GPS and/or recognizing the fact that you're talking to somebody and automatically set all your communications to "do not disturb" for the duration.)

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  49. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by greggster · · Score: 1

    Hospital - totally understand. Get a text or alert: "check out my new cat sweater" - no I'll never understand. Like the difference between a fire trunk horn and angry commuter horn - one simply does not matter much. Learn to ignore that one.

  50. Re:Priorities: Do you really need to read that now by Ed_1024 · · Score: 1

    I think the key part that's missing in this latest round of aspirant technology is personal AI. What you really need is a "v-assistant", "e-butler" or whatever the name might be that is capable of independently replying to *and* initiating communications (by text, email, voice, video, etc.) with other people or systems. It could prioritise what needs your personal interaction, depending on what you were doing at the time.

    The level of input to us has been ramping up fast but our brains still have the same bandwidth they had a million years ago. Until we get an upgrade, we need help to deal with this increasing flood of information, that is mostly unimportant. Who knows, a call to someone in the near future on their "iWatch" might get answered by Siri...

  51. So what about those that do need them? by dlingman · · Score: 1

    Consider the tourist who doesn't speak your language, and is getting on the fly translation of street signs, etc.
    Or the dyslexic who is getting the menu he's never been able to cope with before read to him.
    Or the blind guy who's using it like a seeing eye dog he doesn't need to feed?

    Are you going to punch all of them in the face too?

    Just because you're being a glassless-hole, doesn't mean they're interested in recording you.

    I've considered getting a pair, but haven't - because they're ugly as hell. As another poster indicated - I too want "Terminator vision". When they are integrated invisibly into the glasses I currently have to wear, I'll go for it, but it will probably be running my own software, with me deciding how much of the feed I want to let out to external translation services etc. (and to be honest, it will probably be talking to the phone in my pocket)

    I've got no interest in using a piece of crap quality camera with a lens the size of a sesame seed to record humanity. I have a real camera for that, and you'll know I'm using it because, well, it's a real camera, and if I'm holding it up and pointing it at you, well...

  52. Brawl! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to say I'd punch the first person I saw wearing google glass in the face. Now, I can tear off their arms too!

    I'd say we're nowhere near ready for wearable technology. For crying out loud, we can't even handle smart phones responsibly yet! As I almost saw some poor girl get run down this morning by some a**hole driving in front of a school while playing on some device.

    1. Re:Brawl! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to say I'd punch the first person I saw wearing google glass in the face.

      Yeah, and everyone knew you were full of crap. You still are.

  53. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    Sometimes the "angry commuter horn" means you're drifting into their lane and half a second from side-swiping them... ignoring it is a bad idea in that case.

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  54. Its coming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someday soon we'll all be sitting in our cacoons waiting for Neo to come and save us from the Matrix.

  55. self correcting ... by nblender · · Score: 1

    It'll go the way of the bluetooth headset ... extinct except for the hardcore douchebag.

    "Excuse me sir, you seem to have a little bit of douchebag on the side of your... oh nevermind, that's your bluetooth..."

  56. Mu by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    frankly, I think this is a meaningless question. What does "Socially ready" even mean? Society does not "prepare" for change. Change happens and then society adapts. Or more accurately, change happens, some people adapt, and children grow up knowing a new society that never didn't have that change and can't conceive of a world that didn't have it.... then they grow up to ask whether society is ready for the next change, which their children will grow up familiar with, and who will think their parents were silly, crazy, and overly paranoid for doubting.

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  57. Re:Priorities: Do you really need to read that now by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    It's great that we can be so connected, but ask yourself this...

    The problem is not that a wearable allows you to be "connected," but rather that using it as an interface for "connection" misses the point. The point of wearable computing is context.

    how urgent is that email from Amazon?

    If, for example, the email is telling you that your order is waiting at the post office, your wearable should tell you that as you're about to travel past it.

    Or that calendar invitation about a party next month?

    Your wearable should file it as tentative in your calendar, maybe automatically accept or decline the invite based on conflicting engagements and a strong pattern of attendance (or lack thereof) for parties thrown by the same person in the past, and mention it to you next time you ask to review your appointments.

    If you want to read emails while pretending to pay attention to someone...

    Your wearable should only be displaying an email when one of the conversing parties says something like "hey, remember that email?" and then it ought to be displaying only the relevant one(s).

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  58. That's not the core problem. Impolite society is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to Walmart and you'll see we have a substantial contingent of people who can't even function within the standard social context we have now. Disruptive technology doesn't change this, it just provides more opportunity for the existing impolite behavior.

  59. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I also guess the pager continues to work when the cell network is congested, and the pager is also not in danger to have an empty battery when the emergency call arrives because you just chatted with your friend for hours. Not to mention that most messages on your phone will not be urgent, implying the risk that you don't immediately check the urgent message because you don't know it's urgent, while on the separate pager you'll know it's urgent at the moment you hear it.

  60. Re:we've had wearable communication devices for ye by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2

    Sometimes the "angry commuter horn" means you're drifting into their lane and half a second from side-swiping them... ignoring it is a bad idea in that case.

    Once my "angry commuter horn" meant "I'm hauling a load of cinderblocks, it's 10 degrees, and some psycho sprayed water on a steep downhill slope heading to an intersection"

    Trust me, that wasn't a horn you wanted to tune out.

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  61. Ignore the Luddite fashionistas, even the geeks by AbominousSalad · · Score: 1

    The real question: if you have a problem with wearable computers, are you automatically a luddite with an irrelevant opinion?

    Yes. Yes, those people will soon be living in the past. Congrats, everyone who has the word "glasshole" in their vocabulary, you are now old, crotchety, and a problem in the eyes of progress.

    I recommend everyone just use their devices to find better people to be around. If a harmless worn object (whether it's a computer or a mullet) causes you to be ostracized, you live in the presence of harmful heels who should be relegated to their own fire-fearing circles.

    I got picked on for being a nerd in school too, and I still hold grudges about it and always will, but I'm not going to take it out on people just because I'm envious that I can't afford a Glass. And I'm certainly not going to disguise choking-on-my-twisted-panties as some kind of argument against progress.

    Insert exasperated, immature language here.

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